The photographed action of US military privates is unraveling the neocon and
democrazi fantasies and all you can do is rave about women's privates?

Pitiful.

"ArKLyte_" <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote in message
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http://www.baptiststandard.com/2001/5_14/pages/indonesian.html
Indonesian Christians tricked
into forced Muslim conversion
By Brittany Jarvis
SBC International Mission Board
AMBON, Indonesia (BP)-- "My scar healed quite fast, but the sad,
humiliated feeling stayed. I feel like I'm no longer complete, both
as a person and a woman." That is the testimony of Christina
Sagat, a 32-year-old Christian from Kasiui, Indonesia, who endured
genital mutilation by her Muslim neighbors and forced conversion to
Islam. Unfortunately, as traumatic as her story sounds, hundreds
of women have endured similar oppression. "My niece, Cecilia, who
at that time was eight months pregnant, was also circumcised,"
Sagat said. "My mother, who was in her 70s, was also circumcised.
Teenagers, and even infants, were circumcised. I don't understand
these people." As Muslim jihad warriors press their efforts to
kill or convert all Christians in Indonesia, many Christians are
forced to choose between their faith and their lives. Sagat, who
is Catholic, was born and raised on Kasiui island with her seven
brothers and sisters. Until recently, Catholics, Protestants and
Muslims lived peacefully on the island, even helping each other
build places of worship. Then the fighting began. "At first we
did not believe when we heard about the bloody conflict in Ambon,"
she said. "We said it was impossible that our own friends and
neighbors would attack us." Jihad leaders from other islands began
visiting Muslim villages on Kasiui last October. Christians did
not realize until later that the leaders were pressuring local
Muslims to attack their Christian neighbors. One of the first
victims was Sagat's uncle. While returning from a neighboring
Muslim village, he was surrounded and attacked by a mob. Bleeding
from numerous machete and spear wounds, he somehow managed to
return home. "Still he told us not to take revenge," she said.
But when Muslims murdered another Christian man, Sagat's Christian
neighbors fled into the mountains. Sagat's family stayed in the
village until late November, when advancing mobs forced all
Christians to seek refuge in the mountains. More than 260 people
hiked an exhausting three days to escape the Muslim forces. On the
fourth day, they were discovered. Muslims urged the Christians to
convert to Islam and promised them protection from the jihad
fighters. "It's very hard for us," Sagat said, "but we finally
decided to follow the Muslims to their village and do whatever they
told us to do in order to save our lives." When the Christians
filed into the Muslim village, they discovered their neighbors had
lied. A crowd of people, including jihad warriors, lined the path
leading to the mosque. "I felt like we're just a group of hopeless
sheep being led to a slaughter house," she said. Once inside the
mosque, Christians were forced to repeat the "Al Fatiha" prayer,
which is recited when a person accepts Islam. They were then
stripped of their clothes, given a ritual washing and re-clothed in
traditional Muslim garb. Muslims searched the Christians'
belongings and burned all copies of the Bible and rosary necklaces.
The women were sent to stay with local Muslim families while the
men stayed in the mosque. It was then that the Christians were
circumcised. "All of us, men and women, young and old, even
infants and pregnant women, were circumcised under threat," she
said. Ironically, none of the Muslim women living in the village
had ever been circumcised. Using only a kitchen knife and warm
water, a female religious leader performed the procedure on the
Christian women without anesthesia and left them to heal without
antibiotics. Widely called "female circumcision," the procedure
actually is a genital mutilation, often performed with crude
instruments. Though illegal in many places, it still is widely
practiced. Human rights groups decry the practice, which is
falsely believed to suppress a woman's sex drive and ensure
chastity. During the next two weeks, the government repeatedly
tried to evacuate the Christians from the mosque. Each time, the
government forces encountered Muslim resistance. Finally on the
third attempt, Sagat was able to sneak aboard a government ship.
"The ship took off with only 41 people, including me," she said.
"I saw my parents cry because they could not board the ship."
Sagat found refuge in Ambon. But she is far from secure. "I don't
know what to do with my future," she said. "I guess the first
thing to do is to find a way to get my parents off the island. But
I don't know how."
Southern Baptists need to pray for both the victims and the
perpetrators of the violence in Ambon, said Charles Cole, a
Southern Baptist representative who serves in Indonesia. "Our
hearts go out to Christians in Indonesia who are suffering
injustice," he said. "We pray that God will comfort them and draw
them closer to himself. "But God also loves the people who are
committing these acts. We need to pray that he would make his love
known to them and help them understand the injustice of these
horrible acts."

The photographed action of US military privates is unraveling the
neocon and democrazi fantasies and all you can do is rave about
women's privates? Pitiful.

muslims are sick Son Of A Bitches. They can't have more than half a
brain.

ArKLyte_ wrote:

http://www.baptiststandard.com/2001/5_14/pages/indonesian.html

Indonesian Christians tricked
into forced Muslim conversion

___By Brittany Jarvis
___SBC International Mission Board
___AMBON, Indonesia (BP)-- "My scar healed quite fast, but the sad,
humiliated feeling stayed. I feel like I'm no longer complete, both
as a person and a woman."
___That is the testimony of Christina Sagat, a 32-year-old Christian
from Kasiui,
Indonesia, who endured genital mutilation by her Muslim neighbors and
forced conversion to Islam. Unfortunately, as traumatic as her story
sounds, hundreds of women have endured similar oppression.
___"My niece, Cecilia, who at that time was eight months pregnant,
was also circumcised," Sagat said. "My mother, who was in her 70s,
was
also circumcised. Teenagers, and even infants, were circumcised. I
don't understand these people."
___As Muslim jihad warriors press their efforts to kill or convert
all Christians in Indonesia, many Christians are forced to choose
between their faith and their lives.
___Sagat, who is Catholic, was born and raised on Kasiui island with
her seven brothers and sisters. Until recently, Catholics,
Protestants and Muslims lived peacefully on the island, even helping
each other build places of worship.
___Then the fighting began.
___"At first we did not believe when we heard about the bloody
conflict in Ambon," she said. "We said it was impossible that our own
friends and neighbors would attack us."
___Jihad leaders from other islands began visiting Muslim villages on
Kasiui last October. Christians did not realize until later that the
leaders were pressuring local Muslims to attack their Christian
neighbors. One of the first victims was Sagat's uncle.
___While returning from a neighboring Muslim village, he was
surrounded and attacked by a mob. Bleeding from numerous machete and
spear wounds, he somehow managed to return home.
___"Still he told us not to take revenge," she said.
___But when Muslims murdered another Christian man, Sagat's Christian
neighbors fled into the mountains. Sagat's family stayed in the
village until late November, when advancing mobs forced all
Christians to seek refuge in the mountains. More than 260 people
hiked an exhausting three days to escape the Muslim forces.
___On the fourth day, they were discovered.
___Muslims urged the Christians to convert to Islam and promised them
protection from the jihad fighters.
___"It's very hard for us," Sagat said, "but we finally decided to
follow the Muslims to their village and do whatever they told us to
do in order to save our lives."
___When the Christians filed into the Muslim village, they discovered
their neighbors had lied. A crowd of people, including jihad
warriors, lined the path leading to the mosque.
___"I felt like we're just a group of hopeless sheep being led to a
slaughter house," she said.
___Once inside the mosque, Christians were forced to repeat the "Al
Fatiha" prayer, which is recited when a person accepts Islam. They
were then stripped of their clothes, given a ritual washing and
re-clothed in traditional Muslim garb. Muslims searched the
Christians' belongings and burned all copies of the Bible and rosary
necklaces.
___The women were sent to stay with local Muslim families while the
men stayed in the mosque. It was then that the Christians were
circumcised.
___"All of us, men and women, young and old, even infants and
pregnant women, were circumcised under threat," she said.
___Ironically, none of the Muslim women living in the village had
ever been circumcised.
___Using only a kitchen knife and warm water, a female religious
leader performed the procedure on the Christian women without
anesthesia and left them to heal without antibiotics.
___Widely called "female circumcision," the procedure actually is a
genital mutilation, often performed with crude instruments. Though
illegal in many places, it still is widely practiced. Human rights
groups decry the practice, which is falsely believed to suppress a
woman's sex drive and ensure chastity.
___During the next two weeks, the government repeatedly tried to
evacuate the Christians from the mosque. Each time, the government
forces encountered Muslim resistance. Finally on the third attempt,
Sagat was able to sneak aboard a government ship.
___"The ship took off with only 41 people, including me," she said.
"I saw my parents cry because they could not board the ship."
___Sagat found refuge in Ambon. But she is far from secure.
___"I don't know what to do with my future," she said. "I guess the
first thing to do is to find a way to get my parents off the island.
But I don't know how."
___Southern Baptists need to pray for both the victims and the
perpetrators of the violence in Ambon, said Charles Cole, a Southern
Baptist representative who serves in Indonesia.
___"Our hearts go out to Christians in Indonesia who are suffering
injustice," he said. "We pray that God will comfort them and draw
them closer to himself.
___"But God also loves the people who are committing these acts. We
need to pray that he would make his love known to them and help them
understand the injustice of these horrible acts."