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User: "Mark Fox"
Date: 16 Sep 2006 05:45:36 PM
Object: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!!
http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html
5 churches attacked in Palestinian areas following Pope's comments on
Islam
Palestinians wielding guns and firebombs attacked five churches in the
West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, following remarks by Pope Benedict that
angered many Muslims.
a group calling itself the "Lions of Monotheism" claimed responsibility
for those attacks, saying they were carried out to protest the Pope's
remarks in a speech linking Islam and violence.
Firebombings left black scorch marks on the walls and windows of
Nablus' Anglican and Greek Orthodox churches. At least five firebombs
hit the Anglican church and its door was later set ablaze. Smoke
billowed from the church as firefighters put out the flames
Later Saturday, four masked gunmen doused the main doors of Nablus'
Roman and Greek Catholic churches with lighter fluid, then set them
afire. They also opened fire on the buildings, striking both with
bullets.
In Gaza City, militants opened fire from a car at a Greek Orthodox
church, striking the facade. A policeman at the scene said he saw a car
armed men inside flee the scene. Explosive devices were set off at the
same Gaza church on Friday, causing minor damage.
.

User: "Bob Eld"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 16 Sep 2006 06:39:01 PM
"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html

5 churches attacked in Palestinian areas following Pope's comments on
Islam

Palestinians wielding guns and firebombs attacked five churches in the
West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, following remarks by Pope Benedict that
angered many Muslims.

a group calling itself the "Lions of Monotheism" claimed responsibility
for those attacks, saying they were carried out to protest the Pope's
remarks in a speech linking Islam and violence.

Firebombings left black scorch marks on the walls and windows of
Nablus' Anglican and Greek Orthodox churches. At least five firebombs
hit the Anglican church and its door was later set ablaze. Smoke
billowed from the church as firefighters put out the flames


Later Saturday, four masked gunmen doused the main doors of Nablus'
Roman and Greek Catholic churches with lighter fluid, then set them
afire. They also opened fire on the buildings, striking both with
bullets.

In Gaza City, militants opened fire from a car at a Greek Orthodox
church, striking the facade. A policeman at the scene said he saw a car
armed men inside flee the scene. Explosive devices were set off at the
same Gaza church on Friday, causing minor damage.

Pretty damn funny if you ask me. The bastards are violent and do try to
spread their religion by the sword. Of course, so did
Christians....Inquisition anybody? Religion is the scourge of humanity as
has been proven over and over thorough the centuries.
.
User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 16 Sep 2006 07:04:52 PM
"Bob Eld" <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html

5 churches attacked in Palestinian areas following Pope's comments on
Islam

Palestinians wielding guns and firebombs attacked five churches in the
West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, following remarks by Pope Benedict that
angered many Muslims.

a group calling itself the "Lions of Monotheism" claimed responsibility
for those attacks, saying they were carried out to protest the Pope's
remarks in a speech linking Islam and violence.

Firebombings left black scorch marks on the walls and windows of
Nablus' Anglican and Greek Orthodox churches. At least five firebombs
hit the Anglican church and its door was later set ablaze. Smoke
billowed from the church as firefighters put out the flames


Later Saturday, four masked gunmen doused the main doors of Nablus'
Roman and Greek Catholic churches with lighter fluid, then set them
afire. They also opened fire on the buildings, striking both with
bullets.

In Gaza City, militants opened fire from a car at a Greek Orthodox
church, striking the facade. A policeman at the scene said he saw a car
armed men inside flee the scene. Explosive devices were set off at the
same Gaza church on Friday, causing minor damage.


Pretty damn funny if you ask me. The bastards are violent and do try to
spread their religion by the sword. Of course, so did
Christians....Inquisition anybody? Religion is the scourge of humanity as
has been proven over and over thorough the centuries.

Not as hilarious as trying to spread democracy by killing over 30,000 of the
people he's trying to bring it to.
.
User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 17 Sep 2006 06:10:26 AM
Roger wrote:

"Bob Eld" <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html

5 churches attacked in Palestinian areas following Pope's comments on
Islam

Palestinians wielding guns and firebombs attacked five churches in the
West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, following remarks by Pope Benedict that
angered many Muslims.

a group calling itself the "Lions of Monotheism" claimed responsibility
for those attacks, saying they were carried out to protest the Pope's
remarks in a speech linking Islam and violence.

Firebombings left black scorch marks on the walls and windows of
Nablus' Anglican and Greek Orthodox churches. At least five firebombs
hit the Anglican church and its door was later set ablaze. Smoke
billowed from the church as firefighters put out the flames


Later Saturday, four masked gunmen doused the main doors of Nablus'
Roman and Greek Catholic churches with lighter fluid, then set them
afire. They also opened fire on the buildings, striking both with
bullets.

In Gaza City, militants opened fire from a car at a Greek Orthodox
church, striking the facade. A policeman at the scene said he saw a car
armed men inside flee the scene. Explosive devices were set off at the
same Gaza church on Friday, causing minor damage.


Pretty damn funny if you ask me. The bastards are violent and do try to
spread their religion by the sword. Of course, so did
Christians....Inquisition anybody? Religion is the scourge of humanity as
has been proven over and over thorough the centuries.


Not as hilarious as trying to spread democracy by killing over 30,000 of the
people he's trying to bring it to.

What 30,000 people are you claiming the Pope killed?
.
User: "Republicunts"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 17 Sep 2006 09:57:28 PM
On 17 Sep 2006 04:10:26 -0700, "Mark Fox"
<thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote:

What 30,000 people are you claiming the Pope killed?

Bush Delusional Bush thinks he's God
Bush uses religion just like Osama Bin Laden for self serving end
which both end up killing lots of people
.
User: "Harold Burton"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 17 Sep 2006 10:02:34 PM
In article <fm2sg2h808pel2ak580jjuc9842esu2pat@4ax.com>,
Republicunts <republicunts@chickenhawk.unpatriotic> wrote:

Bush uses religion just like Osama Bin Laden for self serving end
which both end up killing lots of people

But far, far fewer than Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry
Truman, and Lyndon Johnson, all DemocRATs mind you, managed to kill.
.
User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 18 Sep 2006 02:27:40 AM
"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <fm2sg2h808pel2ak580jjuc9842esu2pat@4ax.com>,
Republicunts <republicunts@chickenhawk.unpatriotic> wrote:


Bush uses religion just like Osama Bin Laden for self serving end
which both end up killing lots of people



But far, far fewer than Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry
Truman, and Lyndon Johnson, all DemocRATs mind you, managed to kill.

If you don't know the difference between what they did and Bush did, you're
hopeless.
But you're too hopeless to believe that.
.
User: "Harold Burton"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 18 Sep 2006 06:07:59 AM
In article <MTrPg.5579$%i.125@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hal.i.burton-79F6FC.23023417092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

In article <fm2sg2h808pel2ak580jjuc9842esu2pat@4ax.com>,
Republicunts <republicunts@chickenhawk.unpatriotic> wrote:


Bush uses religion just like Osama Bin Laden for self serving end
which both end up killing lots of people



But far, far fewer than Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry
Truman, and Lyndon Johnson, all DemocRATs mind you, managed to kill.


If you don't know the difference between what they did and Bush did, you're
hopeless.

I know they killed orders of magnitude more people than President Bush
did, and I know you haven't disputed that fact.
.
User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 18 Sep 2006 07:48:18 AM
"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <MTrPg.5579$%i.125@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hal.i.burton-79F6FC.23023417092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

In article <fm2sg2h808pel2ak580jjuc9842esu2pat@4ax.com>,
Republicunts <republicunts@chickenhawk.unpatriotic> wrote:


Bush uses religion just like Osama Bin Laden for self serving end
which both end up killing lots of people



But far, far fewer than Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry
Truman, and Lyndon Johnson, all DemocRATs mind you, managed to kill.


If you don't know the difference between what they did and Bush did,
you're
hopeless.




I know they killed orders of magnitude more people than President Bush
did, and I know you haven't disputed that fact.

If you don't know the difference between what they did and Bush did, you're
hopeless.
.
User: "Harold Burton"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 18 Sep 2006 08:19:26 AM
In article <mAwPg.10412$rE5.2638@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hal.i.burton-89E224.07075918092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

In article <MTrPg.5579$%i.125@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hal.i.burton-79F6FC.23023417092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

In article <fm2sg2h808pel2ak580jjuc9842esu2pat@4ax.com>,
Republicunts <republicunts@chickenhawk.unpatriotic> wrote:


Bush uses religion just like Osama Bin Laden for self serving end
which both end up killing lots of people



But far, far fewer than Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry
Truman, and Lyndon Johnson, all DemocRATs mind you, managed to kill.


If you don't know the difference between what they did and Bush did,
you're
hopeless.




I know they killed orders of magnitude more people than President Bush
did, and I know you haven't disputed that fact.


If you don't know the difference between what they did and Bush did...

I know you're not able to articulate it.
.



User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 18 Sep 2006 07:49:20 AM
Roger wrote:

"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hal.i.burton-79F6FC.23023417092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

In article <fm2sg2h808pel2ak580jjuc9842esu2pat@4ax.com>,
Republicunts <republicunts@chickenhawk.unpatriotic> wrote:


Bush uses religion just like Osama Bin Laden for self serving end
which both end up killing lots of people



But far, far fewer than Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry
Truman, and Lyndon Johnson, all DemocRATs mind you, managed to kill.


If you don't know the difference between what they did and Bush did, you're
hopeless.

You are being very kind to him. I would have described him as a
"treasonous moron" instead of simply "hopeless".


But you're too hopeless to believe that.

Yes, he is indeed.
.
User: "Harold Burton"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 18 Sep 2006 08:20:36 AM
In article <1158583760.720535.257200@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote:

Roger wrote:

"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hal.i.burton-79F6FC.23023417092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

In article <fm2sg2h808pel2ak580jjuc9842esu2pat@4ax.com>,
Republicunts <republicunts@chickenhawk.unpatriotic> wrote:


Bush uses religion just like Osama Bin Laden for self serving end
which both end up killing lots of people



But far, far fewer than Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry
Truman, and Lyndon Johnson, all DemocRATs mind you, managed to kill.


If you don't know the difference between what they did and Bush did, you're
hopeless.


You are being very kind to him. I would have described him as a
"treasonous moron" instead of simply "hopeless".


But you're too hopeless to believe that.


Yes, he is indeed.

Interesting how you, like Roger, seem unwilling to articulate the
difference he claims, but keep trying.
.







User: ""

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 16 Sep 2006 09:49:06 PM
Bob Eld wrote:

"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158446736.897388.238730@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...


http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html

5 churches attacked in Palestinian areas following Pope's comments on
Islam

Palestinians wielding guns and firebombs attacked five churches in the
West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, following remarks by Pope Benedict that
angered many Muslims.

a group calling itself the "Lions of Monotheism" claimed responsibility
for those attacks, saying they were carried out to protest the Pope's
remarks in a speech linking Islam and violence.

Firebombings left black scorch marks on the walls and windows of
Nablus' Anglican and Greek Orthodox churches. At least five firebombs
hit the Anglican church and its door was later set ablaze. Smoke
billowed from the church as firefighters put out the flames


Later Saturday, four masked gunmen doused the main doors of Nablus'
Roman and Greek Catholic churches with lighter fluid, then set them
afire. They also opened fire on the buildings, striking both with
bullets.

In Gaza City, militants opened fire from a car at a Greek Orthodox
church, striking the facade. A policeman at the scene said he saw a car
armed men inside flee the scene. Explosive devices were set off at the
same Gaza church on Friday, causing minor damage.


Pretty damn funny if you ask me. The bastards are violent and do try to
spread their religion by the sword. Of course, so did
Christians....Inquisition anybody? Religion is the scourge of humanity as
has been proven over and over thorough the centuries.

I'll make a deal with you. You bring to justice the violent Muslim
terrorists who burn buildings, kill Christians, etc, and I'll bring to
justice the Inquisitors.
If that doesn't work for you, how about we focus on killing today's
monsters?
.
User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 17 Sep 2006 12:31:05 AM
<awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Bob Eld wrote:

"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158446736.897388.238730@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...


http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html

5 churches attacked in Palestinian areas following Pope's comments on
Islam

Palestinians wielding guns and firebombs attacked five churches in the
West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, following remarks by Pope Benedict that
angered many Muslims.

a group calling itself the "Lions of Monotheism" claimed responsibility
for those attacks, saying they were carried out to protest the Pope's
remarks in a speech linking Islam and violence.

Firebombings left black scorch marks on the walls and windows of
Nablus' Anglican and Greek Orthodox churches. At least five firebombs
hit the Anglican church and its door was later set ablaze. Smoke
billowed from the church as firefighters put out the flames


Later Saturday, four masked gunmen doused the main doors of Nablus'
Roman and Greek Catholic churches with lighter fluid, then set them
afire. They also opened fire on the buildings, striking both with
bullets.

In Gaza City, militants opened fire from a car at a Greek Orthodox
church, striking the facade. A policeman at the scene said he saw a car
armed men inside flee the scene. Explosive devices were set off at the
same Gaza church on Friday, causing minor damage.


Pretty damn funny if you ask me. The bastards are violent and do try to
spread their religion by the sword. Of course, so did
Christians....Inquisition anybody? Religion is the scourge of humanity
as
has been proven over and over thorough the centuries.


I'll make a deal with you. You bring to justice the violent Muslim
terrorists who burn buildings, kill Christians, etc, and I'll bring to
justice the Inquisitors.

If that doesn't work for you, how about we focus on killing today's
monsters?

"I would say 30,000, more or less, have died as a result of the initial
incursion and the ongoing violence against Iraqis," Bush said. "We've lost
about 2,140 of our own troops in Iraq."
Works for me.
.

User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying theyare violent? Go figure! LOL!! 16 Sep 2006 10:19:03 PM
wrote:

Bob Eld wrote:

"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158446736.897388.238730@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html

5 churches attacked in Palestinian areas following Pope's comments on
Islam

Palestinians wielding guns and firebombs attacked five churches in the
West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, following remarks by Pope Benedict that
angered many Muslims.

a group calling itself the "Lions of Monotheism" claimed responsibility
for those attacks, saying they were carried out to protest the Pope's
remarks in a speech linking Islam and violence.

Firebombings left black scorch marks on the walls and windows of
Nablus' Anglican and Greek Orthodox churches. At least five firebombs
hit the Anglican church and its door was later set ablaze. Smoke
billowed from the church as firefighters put out the flames


Later Saturday, four masked gunmen doused the main doors of Nablus'
Roman and Greek Catholic churches with lighter fluid, then set them
afire. They also opened fire on the buildings, striking both with
bullets.

In Gaza City, militants opened fire from a car at a Greek Orthodox
church, striking the facade. A policeman at the scene said he saw a car
armed men inside flee the scene. Explosive devices were set off at the
same Gaza church on Friday, causing minor damage.

Pretty damn funny if you ask me. The bastards are violent and do try to
spread their religion by the sword. Of course, so did
Christians....Inquisition anybody? Religion is the scourge of humanity as
has been proven over and over thorough the centuries.


I'll make a deal with you. You bring to justice the violent Muslim
terrorists who burn buildings, kill Christians, etc, and I'll bring to
justice the Inquisitors.

Want to bring some justice to the joo terrorists who cause massive oil
spills, kill Lebanese babies, use cluster munitions on civilian
residential and agricultural areas, etc?

If that doesn't work for you, how about we focus on killing today's
monsters?

Yes. Lets.


.



User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 16 Sep 2006 07:35:14 PM
"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158446736.897388.238730@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...


http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html

5 churches attacked in Palestinian areas following Pope's comments on
Islam

Palestinians wielding guns and firebombs attacked five churches in the
West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, following remarks by Pope Benedict that
angered many Muslims.

a group calling itself the "Lions of Monotheism" claimed responsibility
for those attacks, saying they were carried out to protest the Pope's
remarks in a speech linking Islam and violence.

Yeah - call us violent and we'll ******* kill you all.
I can just imagine the reaction if the UK and US followed the Saudi example
and confiscated their Korans at customs.
A W-S
.

User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 16 Sep 2006 07:04:10 PM
"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html

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5 churches attacked in Palestinian areas following Pope's comments on
Islam

Palestinians wielding guns and firebombs attacked five churches in the
West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, following remarks by Pope Benedict that
angered many Muslims.

a group calling itself the "Lions of Monotheism" claimed responsibility
for those attacks, saying they were carried out to protest the Pope's
remarks in a speech linking Islam and violence.

Firebombings left black scorch marks on the walls and windows of
Nablus' Anglican and Greek Orthodox churches. At least five firebombs
hit the Anglican church and its door was later set ablaze. Smoke
billowed from the church as firefighters put out the flames


Later Saturday, four masked gunmen doused the main doors of Nablus'
Roman and Greek Catholic churches with lighter fluid, then set them
afire. They also opened fire on the buildings, striking both with
bullets.

In Gaza City, militants opened fire from a car at a Greek Orthodox
church, striking the facade. A policeman at the scene said he saw a car
armed men inside flee the scene. Explosive devices were set off at the
same Gaza church on Friday, causing minor damage.

.

User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 16 Sep 2006 07:58:32 PM
On 16 Sep 2006 15:45:36 -0700, "Mark Fox"
<thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote:


http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html

5 churches attacked in Palestinian areas following Pope's comments on
Islam

Palestinians wielding guns and firebombs attacked five churches in the
West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, following remarks by Pope Benedict that
angered many Muslims.

a group calling itself the "Lions of Monotheism" claimed responsibility
for those attacks, saying they were carried out to protest the Pope's
remarks in a speech linking Islam and violence.

Firebombings left black scorch marks on the walls and windows of
Nablus' Anglican and Greek Orthodox churches. At least five firebombs
hit the Anglican church and its door was later set ablaze. Smoke
billowed from the church as firefighters put out the flames


Later Saturday, four masked gunmen doused the main doors of Nablus'
Roman and Greek Catholic churches with lighter fluid, then set them
afire. They also opened fire on the buildings, striking both with
bullets.

In Gaza City, militants opened fire from a car at a Greek Orthodox
church, striking the facade. A policeman at the scene said he saw a car
armed men inside flee the scene. Explosive devices were set off at the
same Gaza church on Friday, causing minor damage.

You are dealing with mega ignorance here. Anglican and Greek Orthodox
churches have nothing to do with the Pope. If it is their theory that
all Christian churches should be punished for the comments of one then
I wonder if they will complain if Mosques in Christian countries are
attacked because of the statements of the Islamists.
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User: "Me"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 16 Sep 2006 11:17:39 PM
On 16 Sep 2006 15:45:36 -0700, "Mark Fox"
<thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html

5 churches attacked in Palestinian areas following Pope's comments on
Islam

Palestinians wielding guns and firebombs attacked five churches in the
West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, following remarks by Pope Benedict that
angered many Muslims.

a group calling itself the "Lions of Monotheism" claimed responsibility
for those attacks, saying they were carried out to protest the Pope's
remarks in a speech linking Islam and violence.

Firebombings left black scorch marks on the walls and windows of
Nablus' Anglican and Greek Orthodox churches. At least five firebombs
hit the Anglican church and its door was later set ablaze. Smoke
billowed from the church as firefighters put out the flames


Later Saturday, four masked gunmen doused the main doors of Nablus'
Roman and Greek Catholic churches with lighter fluid, then set them
afire. They also opened fire on the buildings, striking both with
bullets.

In Gaza City, militants opened fire from a car at a Greek Orthodox
church, striking the facade. A policeman at the scene said he saw a car
armed men inside flee the scene. Explosive devices were set off at the
same Gaza church on Friday, causing minor damage.

***** Islam. The Pope was right. Truth requires no apology.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 16 Sep 2006 07:07:36 PM
There seem to be different leanings on the Pope issue. Look at the
examples at http://www.themediabias.com
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User: "Topaz"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 17 Sep 2006 06:32:05 PM
You have no sense of irony. The Jews bomb the Arabs for 33 days ....
dropping over a million anti-personnel cluster bombs ..... and the
pope denounces the violence of Judaism ..... no, wait, the pope
denounced the violence of Islam ..... even the pope is on the Jews'
side.
That's the beauty of it..... the US goes halfway around the world to
drop 100000 tons on bombs on Iraq .... "bringing democracy" ..... and
Iraqi defenders kill an invader with a homemade bomb .....
demonstrating that they are "Islamofascists"......
When you parrot the US govt, you turn reality upside down ......
Anti-Semite
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.ihr.org/
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User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 18 Sep 2006 07:46:59 AM
Topaz wrote:

You have no sense of irony.

Yes, the "irony" is high when you completely ignore the Muslims
crossing borders to kidnap soldiers and murder innocent women and
children and then whine and complain about Israelis response to those
horrendous crimes.

... the pope denounced the violence of Islam .....

As he should.

even the pope is on the Jews side.

Tell the followers of Islam to stop murdering innocent people in the
name of Allah and we might come over to your side.

That's the beauty of it..... the US goes halfway around the world to
drop 100000 tons on bombs on Iraq .... "bringing democracy" ..... and
Iraqi defenders kill an invader with a homemade bomb .....

the people you call "Iraqi defenders" are killing fellow Iraqis. You
are either hopelessly wrong and ignorant or you are a two faced liar.

demonstrating that they are "Islamofascists"......
When you parrot the US govt, you turn reality upside down ......

"upside down" is a really good description of your twisted demented
thinking.
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User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 18 Sep 2006 09:31:56 AM
"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158583619.319623.239470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...


Topaz wrote:

You have no sense of irony.


Yes, the "irony" is high when you completely ignore the Muslims
crossing borders to kidnap soldiers

'Captured' soldiers Mark - 'captured'.
The Israelis also crossed the border and kidnapped hundreds of Lebanese -
whom they still hold without charge or access to legal representation - for
months before the Lebanese responded in kind.
The difference being that all the hundreds of kidnapped Lebanese were
civilians and the two captured Israelis were soldiers in active service.
Your reality is completely upside down old bean.
A W-S
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User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 18 Sep 2006 09:47:15 AM
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:450eade9@quokka.wn.com.au...


"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158583619.319623.239470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...


Topaz wrote:

You have no sense of irony.


Yes, the "irony" is high when you completely ignore the Muslims
crossing borders to kidnap soldiers


'Captured' soldiers Mark - 'captured'.
The Israelis also crossed the border and kidnapped hundreds of Lebanese -
whom they still hold without charge or access to legal representation -
for months before the Lebanese responded in kind.

Israel crossed into Palestine and captured DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED
Palestinian leaders.

The difference being that all the hundreds of kidnapped Lebanese were
civilians and the two captured Israelis were soldiers in active service.

Your reality is completely upside down old bean.

A W-S



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User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 18 Sep 2006 07:56:04 AM
"Mark Fox" <thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158583619.319623.239470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...


Topaz wrote:

You have no sense of irony.


Yes, the "irony" is high when you completely ignore the Muslims
crossing borders to kidnap soldiers and murder innocent women and
children and then whine and complain about Israelis response to those
horrendous crimes.

... the pope denounced the violence of Islam .....


As he should.

even the pope is on the Jews side.


Tell the followers of Islam to stop murdering innocent people in the
name of Allah and we might come over to your side.

"the followers of Islam" number 1.3 BILLION.
Are they are all "murdering innocent people"?




That's the beauty of it..... the US goes halfway around the world to
drop 100000 tons on bombs on Iraq .... "bringing democracy" ..... and
Iraqi defenders kill an invader with a homemade bomb .....



the people you call "Iraqi defenders" are killing fellow Iraqis. You
are either hopelessly wrong and ignorant or you are a two faced liar.




demonstrating that they are "Islamofascists"......
When you parrot the US govt, you turn reality upside down ......


"upside down" is a really good description of your twisted demented
thinking.

.

User: "Topaz"

Title: Re: Re: Muslims go on a violent rampage to protest the Pope saying they are violent? Go figure! LOL!! 18 Sep 2006 06:57:25 PM
On 18 Sep 2006 05:46:59 -0700, "Mark Fox"
<thufir_dufas.hawat@yahoo.com> wrote:


Yes, the "irony" is high when you completely ignore the Muslims
crossing borders to kidnap soldiers and murder innocent women and
children and then whine and complain about Israelis response to those
horrendous crimes.

The Rules of Political Correctness
When it comes to the Israeli-Arab conflict:
Rule # 1: In the Middle East, it is always the Arabs that attack
first, and it's always Israel that defends itself. This is called
"Retaliation".
Rule # 2: The Arabs, whether Palestinians or Lebanese, are not allowed
to kill Israelis. This is called "Terrorism"
Rule # 3: Israel has the right to kill Arab civilians. This is called
"Self-Defense", or, these days, "Collateral Damage".
Rule # 4: When Israel kills too many civilians, the Western world
calls for restraint. This is called the "Reaction of the International
Community".
Rule # 5: Palestinians and Lebanese do not have the right to capture
Israeli military personnel, not even a limited number, not even 1 or
2. This is called "Kidnapping".
Rule # 6: Israel has the right to capture as many Palestinians as they
want (Palestinians: around 10,000 to date, 300 of whom are children;
Lebanese: 1,000s to date, being held without trial). There is no
limit; there is no need for proof of guilt or trial. This is called
"War on Terrorism".
Rule # 7: When you say "Hezbollah", always be sure to add "supported
by Syria and Iran". This is called: "Axis of Evil"
Rule # 8: When you say "Israel", never say "supported by the USA, the
UK and other European countries", for people (God forbid) might
believe this is not a balanced conflict. This is called "Helping our
Friends".
Rule # 9: When it comes to Israel, don't mention the words "occupied
territories", "UN resolutions", or "Geneva Conventions". This could
distress the audience, and is called "Anti-Semitism".
Rule # 10: Israelis speak better English than Arabs. This is why we
let them speak out as much as possible, so that they can explain
rules 1 through 9. This is called "Neutral Journalism".
Rule # 11: If you don't agree with these rules or if you favor the
Arab side over the Israeli side, you must be a very dangerous
anti-Semite. You may even have to make a public apology if you
express your honest opinion like Mel Gibson. This is called
"Democracy".
Please learn the proper terminology and use it appropriately to
maintain your job; this is called "Equal Opportunity Employment".
via
International Mens Organisation
http://internationalmensorganisation.cjb.net
Fathers Fighting Injustice
http://fathersfightinginjustice.cjb.net

... the pope denounced the violence of Islam .....


As he should.

Advice for Patriots
By Dr. William Pierce
Today let's talk about some of the things that have changed in America
since September 11. I'm not thinking about all of the new rigamarole
at airports or about how Mr. Bush's campaign of cruise-missile
diplomacy in the Middle East is going or even about how opening the
mail each morning in media offices around the country and in
politicians' offices in Washington has become a much more exciting
operation than it used to be
when Ted Kaczynski was the only person putting dangerous things into
letters.
I'm more interested in the changes in the Politically Correct party
line laid down for the lemmings by the media. I'm interested in
changes in the way Americans view the world. And I'm interested in the
changed prospects for the future of America.
The most interesting thing about the new party line is its stupidity.
The Jews were caught by surprise last month, and they had to whip up
something in a hurry in order to deflect blame from Israel and from
the U.S. government's support for Israel. Apparently the best they
could do on a moment's notice is the explanation that Osama bin Laden
attacked us
simply because he hates our freedom and democracy. Since they first
cooked up that explanation they've refined it quite a bit. Both the
Foreign Ministry in Israel and the American Israel Public Affairs
Committee, Israel's enormously powerful lobby in Washington, have been
circulating "talking papers" to their own people, to politicians, and
to everyone else who is likely to be making a public statement about
America's new war or about Washington's past policy in the Middle
East.
These "talking papers" tell people how to counter what the Jews call
Osama bin Laden's "lies" and also how to respond to anyone who
suggests that our government's support of Israel might have had
something to do with the September 11 attack. The papers warn people
never to raise this subject, but if someone else insists on talking
about it, it is to be
countered with the explanation that support for Israel had nothing at
all to do with the attack, that we would have been attacked even if we
weren't supporting Israel, and that the only reason for the attack is
Osama bin Laden's irrational hatred of America's freedom and
democracy.
I believe that it's clear that many people actually believe this
nonsense, judging by the number of cars with red, white, and blue
ribbons tied to their antennas. But these are the people who believe
everything Tom Brokaw or their beloved Big Brother in the White House
tells them. If George Bush came on TV and told them with that
mock-solemn expression of his that a Martian invasion force had just
landed, that the Martians were demanding one million sacrificial
virgins as their price for not destroying Hollywood and Washington,
and that U.S. Army troops would be going door to door to collect
virgins, the folks with the ribbons on their antennas would believe
it, and they would prepare to hand over any virgins in their
households. They would consider it their patriotic duty. The party
line may change from time to time, but lemmings never change.
Well, the lemmings may believe that U.S. support for Israel had
nothing to do with the September 11 attack or with the anthrax-laden
letters now going around, but no one else believes it. Last week the
media bosses were kicking themselves because they had let the text of
a statement Osama bin Laden had made be published in the United
States. They said that they had made a mistake in putting this
statement before the American public. They wouldn't publish any
further Osama bin Laden statements, they said, because the statements
might contain secret instructions for his operatives.
Everyone I've spoken with laughed at that excuse. In his last
statement Osama bin Laden said that Americans would not be secure and
would have no peace of mind as long as Palestinians were not secure in
their own land. That's the sort of powerful and simple message that
even Sally Soccer Mom and Joe Sixpack might understand, and that's
what the Jewish media bosses don't want the public to hear. They're
not worried about secret instructions; they're worried about the
lemmings figuring out what's going on.
Actually, I think there's very little danger of that. And really, the
changes I'm more interested in are in the outlook of the minority of
the population able to think for itself: the minority that doesn't
believe whatever Tom Brokaw says. You know, I've been talking to this
minority for years-decades, actually-warning them about the
consequences of letting their government get out of control, warning
them of the consequences of permitting the Jews of Hollywood and New
York to run our country through their control of our mass media,
warning them of the consequences of continuing to sit on their hands
and keep their mouths shut from fear of being denounced by the media
as "anti-Semites" or "racists."
And I wasn't having as much success as I wanted at getting them to pay
attention and change their ways. Many of those who listened wouldn't
do anything because what I was warning them about didn't seem quite
real. Despite all the changes they could see around them-the
deterioration of our cities and our schools, the darkening of the
racial complexion of America, the trashing of our culture by the mass
media, the increasingly
obvious efforts of the Jewish media bosses to persuade our young women
that they should bed down with non-Whites-despite everything, they
themselves managed to remain comfortable and economically secure, so
the things I was warning them about didn't seem quite real. They had
convinced themselves that they were above it all, that they could
continue to watch the destruction of their country and their people
all around them, and it would never affect them personally: that they
could remain secure and comfortable while everything around them went
to hell. Osama bin Laden jolted some of them awake on September 11:
some of those whose attention I hadn't been able to catch with my own
warnings. He convinced some of them that what they had been observing
going on around them for years was in fact real: that continuing to
ignore the degenerative processes promoted by the media and the
government and hoping for the best really wasn't a good strategy for
personal survival. In particular, he convinced many members of the
thinking minority that losing control of our government really is a
serious matter, that
permitting our government to be used by the Jews against their
neighbors in the Middle East-and also against the genuine interests of
the American people-could have real consequences at home.
I have the feeling that many of these thinking people are paying at
least a little more attention now to the things we've been talking
about here every week. The fact that the number of people who download
these broadcasts from my Web site each Saturday has nearly doubled
since September 11 is a pretty good indication of this, I believe.
Just as I'm getting more hate mail from the red-white-and-blue-ribbon
types, I'm also getting more thoughtful responses from the people who
understand and care. Which is to say, I think I have an audience now
that not only is bigger but also is more attentive and responsive.
That is really important.
I'm not discouraged by the fact that the attentive and responsive
people still constitute only a minority of a minority. I'm encouraged
by the fact that the attentive people now make up a larger minority of
the thinking portion of the population than they did before September
11. Important things always are done by minorities. Majorities don't
make
decisions; individuals do; small minorities do. History is made by
active minorities. Sometimes an active minority may use the passive
majority as a tool or a weapon, but the minority always acts in accord
with its own will.
What's important is which minority is making the decisions, which
minority is active at any particular moment. For at least the past 60
years it's been the wrong minority, an alien minority that is
implacably hostile to our people. If we are to survive, that must
change. Our minority must become active instead. Our minority must
grow to include more of the thinking portion of our population. And
that is happening now. That's been happening since September 11.
The people who understand and care have been forced to begin paying
attention. I have a very strong premonition that there will be other
things in the reasonably near future that will make them pay even
closer attention. The Bush government, just like the Clinton
government before it, thinks that it can stop terrorism with cruise
missiles and smart bombs. But just think for a moment: whether Osama
bin Laden survives the Bush government's current war against Israel's
enemies in the Middle East or not, he already has become immortal. In
the eyes of Muslims he has been elevated to a status in heaven
alongside Mohammed. His name will be praised, and stories will be told
about him around campfires throughout the Muslim world for countless
generations to come, long
after the Bush government has gone and been forgotten. Cruise missiles
can't take Osama bin Laden's immortality away from him. There's
nothing the Bush government can do to diminish his glory in the Muslim
world. In fact, the more cruise missiles and smart bombs the United
States unleashes on the Muslim world, the higher will Osama bin
Laden's esteem rise; the more will his strike against the United
States seem justified to his fellow Muslims.
Don't be fooled by the tame "house Muslims" the media bosses have been
trotting out to explain to the lemmings that violence is abhorrent to
"real Muslims." The real Muslims are the ones rioting against the
government in Pakistan now. The real Muslims are the ones singing
Osama bin Laden's praises now. And there will be no shortage of other
young Muslims lusting for a share in his glory, lusting to have their
praises sung around campfires too. Cruise missiles don't frighten
them. There are enough of them already in this country to keep things
jumping, thanks to the government's insane immigration policy of
recent decades. The anthrax-laced letters that have been going around
all were mailed from inside this country. And anthrax is by no means
the nastiest thing that can be mailed in an envelope. The media won't
even mention the biological warfare agents the government is really
afraid of, because they don't want to give anyone ideas.
The fact is, terrorism has been made much more fashionable since
September 11, and the stakes have been raised. Simple truck bombs
won't get much respect in the future, but I have a suspicion that
we'll see a few more of them anyway. And I suspect that we'll also see
people trying to outdo Osama bin Laden's September 11 televised
extravaganza. The
government and the media suspect the same thing, and they're
frightened. That's why they're trying so desperately to stifle dissent
and keep everyone pledging allegiance to the flag.
At the University of California in Los Angeles a library worker,
53-year-old Jonnie Hargis, has been suspended without pay because he
sent out an e-mail letter criticizing U.S. support for Israel's
aggression. The university administration explained that it has a
policy against using university computers for political messages, but
Hargis, who has worked at the UCLA library for 22 years, pointed out
that no one who has been sending out pro-Israel and pro-war messages
has been punished.
There are similar situations at other universities around the country.
Jews and neo-conservatives post belligerent, bloodthirsty messages
calling for the annihilation of all of the Jews' enemies in the Middle
East, including Iraq and Iran as well as Afghanistan. Anyone who calls
instead for eliminating the cause of the September 11 attack-that is,
for stopping the blind support by the U.S. government of Israel's
aggression-is censured and threatened with expulsion or with being
fired.
There are still people around who can remember how it was at our
universities during the Vietnam war. That was when treason ruled on
campuses. Students burned their draft cards and put up Viet Cong flags
and posters of Ho Chi Minh in their dormitories. Jewish activists in
groups such as Students for a Democratic Society organized pro-Viet
Cong
rallies on campuses. Professors encouraged this activity, and
administrators didn't interfere, citing free speech.
The switch to red, white, and blue ribbons and saluting the flag came
rather suddenly last month, and a lot of thinking people understand
why it came. They understand that it is when America is involved in a
war to promote Jewish interests that pledging allegiance to the flag
suddenly is declared fashionable. When Israel's welfare is threatened,
Jews, ordinarily noted for their cynicism and irreverence, suddenly
put their hands over their hearts and begin singing The Star-Spangled
Banner, and they glare at anyone who isn't singing loudly enough. And
people who make the mistake of asking why get fired or suspended. But
you know, firing people or suspending people who have dissenting
opinions doesn't go down well with the independent thinkers. And I'll
guarantee you:
there will be a lot more dissent before this war is over. And the
Jewish media won't be able to hide it all.
What we are beginning to see now is a sharpening division between the
Jews, their bought politicians, and the "I pledge allegiance,"
authoritarian types on one side, and everyone else on the other side.
We also saw a division, along different lines, during the Vietnam war,
with the authoritarians and the Jews on opposite sides instead of the
same
side. I believe that the division this time will develop faster and
become sharper.
I don't know how the war itself will develop. It was clear before it
began that the U.S. military machine is quite capable of flattening
Afghanistan or any other Third World country without suffering any
significant losses to its own personnel, simply because we can hit
them from a distance with a great deal of destructive power, and they
don't have the means to hit back-except through what we call
"terrorism." It is certain that there will be more terrorism,
although, of course, I cannot predict the form it will take or its
magnitude.
I can predict, however, that the media and the politicians will
denounce it as "cowardly" and will act as if America has been wronged:
that whatever form the next blow against America takes and wherever it
comes from, it will be declared "unprovoked." And I can predict that
the polls published by the media will continue to show nearly every
American
wildly enthusiastic about the war, even as the opposition to the war
grows.
One interesting thing about the opposition this time is that it is
growing both among the Gentile Left and among genuine patriots. During
the Vietnam war the members of the Gentile Left all were on the Jewish
side. Despite the current agreement between leftists and patriots on
the single issue of ending support for Israel and limiting the war in
the
Middle East, I don't see much chance of real collaboration between
these two elements. The Gentile Left is still hopelessly confused on
such essential issues as race and feminism and homosexuality and
permissiveness. But the war is indeed driving a wedge between Jews and
Gentile leftists-a deeper wedge than that driven by the development of
Jewish neo-conservatism after the Vietnam war, and for that we should
be thankful.
There may be other hopeful developments as well. The assassination in
Jerusalem this week of one of Israel's most bloodthirsty Jewish
militants by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
certainly was a welcome move. Until now all of the assassins have been
Jews, and all of the victims have been Palestinians. It's too soon to
know whether
or not this one act of retribution against the Israeli leadership will
be followed by other successful blows, but it may be that the events
of recent weeks have emboldened the Palestinians to act with more
imagination and enterprise than before.
Looking ahead a bit, there are several signs of hope here on our own
home front. The heightened sense of reality among non-lemmings, the
lessening of their sense of detachment, the stronger realization that
they cannot survive by continuing to sit on their hands and watch the
Jews destroy the world around them- -- this is the single most
important consequence of recent events. This, together with the
growing alienation between Gentile leftists and Jews, leaves the Jews
in a weaker position than they have been in a long time. They will
crack their whips more frantically than before, trying to keep
everyone in line, but the principal effect of that will be to generate
even more resentment against them.
Things are a bit brittle now. A few dozen more anthrax cases, another
truck bomb in a well chosen location, and substantial changes could
take place in a hurry: a stock market panic, martial law measures by
the Bush government, and a sharpening of the debate as to how we got
ourselves get into this mess in the first place. As the debate
sharpens, the Jews and their collaborators will pull out all of the
stops in an effort to stifle it, but I don't think that even a
declaration of martial law can stifle it now. Too many people already
smell the stink in Washington. Too many people already understand on
whose hands is the blood of 6,000 innocent Americans who died last
month. Too many people understand the true motivation behind the
current war against Israel's enemies in the
Middle East. The genie is out of the bottle now, and not even Mr.
Bush's new anti-terrorism agency-what does he call it? -- the Office
of Homeland Security? -- not even this new Federal agency can put it
back in the bottle.
It's a strange thing: in a novel I wrote more than 12 years ago - the
title is Hunter-I talked about the formation of a new anti-terrorism
agency, separate from the FBI. And I pointed out that the principal
aim of the new agency would not be to protect the public from
terrorism, but to protect the government from an increasingly restless
and disillusioned public: a sort of modern Praetorian Guard. I think
that we'll be seeing more developments in that direction in the next
few months, with the timing depending upon when the next surprise
comes and its magnitude.
Of course, I don't know what will happen next to shatter already
jangled nerves, but it is likely that something will happen. My advice
to responsible patriots now is this: Expect a surprise, and remain
calm when it comes. But don't wait for it to come to raise your voice.
Speak out now. Don't be intimidated by the mindless yahoos waving
their flags
or by the government or by the media. If you point out calmly and in a
reasoned way who is responsible for what happened to America last
month you will have more people agreeing with you than you might
imagine. If you call for your fellow Americans to join you in
regaining control of their government, the response will be greater
than at any time in recent years.
Thanks for being with me again today.


even the pope is on the Jews side.


Tell the followers of Islam to stop murdering innocent people in the
name of Allah and we might come over to your side.

NOT JOURNALISTS_ZIONIST PROPAGANDISTS
From:
<mailto:
> (libby)
Date: 9/4/02 6:46 PM Pacific Daylight
Sept.04/2002
It's important for the American people to know that all those
'American' journalists/talking heads that they see and read in the
Zionist controlled print and electronic mass media are not working for
America's interests. The very fact that they appear on CNN or write
for the Washington Post, for example, conveys the impression in the
minds of Americans that these 'journalists' are loyal Americans who
have America's best interests at heart. They are, in fact, leading
players in a huge deception and manipulation of the American people
that when attached to a cause such as, 'support of Israel', or
'attacking Iraq', is unrelenting in it's intensity and scope... Fact
is, they
are part of the same ruling elites of mostly Zionists who by now have
a virtual stranglehold on power in America.
And even as I write this, there on CNN's TALKBACK LIVE is Daniel Pipes
of Middle East Forum, propagandizing in favor of a unilateral military
attack on a sovereign nation, Iraq. An act that if committed by any
country other than America, would be considered a war crime and
justification for America to go to war against the invading country.
The following is an excerpt from the foreword to Aldous Huxley's BRAVE
NEW WORLD.
=============
begin excerpt
=============
The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by
doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is the truth, but
still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth.
By simply not mentioning certain subjects, by lowering what Mr.
Churchill calls an 'iron curtain' between the masses and such facts or
arguments as the local political bosses regard as undesirable,
totalitarian propagandists have influenced [public] opinion much more
effectively than they could have done by the most eloquent
denunciations, the most compelling of logical rebuttals.
===========
end excerpt
===========
In plain English, propagandists don't necessarily need to lie to the
mass audience to control them. By not disclosing critical
facts/information, they ensure that no debate will ever take place on
these critical issues. This omitting of critical facts/information is
one of the very tactics used by CNN and the rest of the Zionist mass
media in America. There are many examples of this tactic and one that
comes to mind is the issue of Israel's weapons of mass
destruction(WMD's). The Zionist mass media in America does not discuss
this at all. They do not want public debate on this issue. One of the
reasons being, of course, that America's great 'ally' Israel stole
it's nuclear weapons program from America. Another issue that the
Zionists keep hidden from Americans is the $3,000,000,000 that goes to
Israel each year, payback from the 'Congress of traitors', no doubt,
for Zionist/Jewish election funding.
So Dear Americans: The next time you see/hear/read the 'work' of the
Zionist 'journalists', Kristol, Barnes, Krauthammer, Blitzer, Kagan
Zahn, Gaffney, Schneider, Limbaugh, Pipes, Kaplan, Lipsky, Zuckerman,
Goldberg and all the others, be aware that they and their bosses are
Zionists and their purpose is to serve the interests of
Zionism/Israel, AND NOT AMERICA. Take everything they say with a grain
of salt and a pound of critique.
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Roy Libby
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Truth and disclosure are a deceiver's greatest fears.
ZIONIST POWER STRUCTURE
IN AMERICA
Now that we have established the ruthless and criminal nature of
radical Zionism, one more lesson needs to be understood before we
return to the five dancing Israelis of 9-11 and other related stories.
Even the Zionists themselves have never denied that they have long
exerted great influence in America. But what we must understand is
that the Zionists do not merely influence United States policy....they
dominate it! It is this domination that enables them to pull off
monstrous crimes and then conceal them from the general public.
The observation that Zionists dominate the American media, government,
academia, and Hollywood has been made by many prominent Americans and
is easily verifiable by public information.
Henry Ford said this:
"If after having elected their man or group, obedience is not rendered
to the Jewish control, then you speedily hear of "scandals" and
"investigations" and "impeachments" for the removal of the
disobedient.
Usually a man with a "past" proves the most obedient instrument, but
even a good man can often be tangled up in campaign practices that
compromise him. It has been commonly known that Jewish manipulation of
American election campaigns have been so skillfully handled, that no
matter which candidate was elected, there was ready made a sufficient
amount of evidence to discredit him in case his Jewish masters needed
to discredit him." 33
Charles Lindbergh said this:
"Their greatest danger to this country lies in the Jewish ownership
and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our
government. 34
Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff under
Ronald Reagan said this:
"I've never seen a President-I don't care who he is-stand up to them
[the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they
want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. If the American
people understood what a grip those people have got on our government,
they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea
what goes on."
35
While a guest on ABC's Face the Nation, William Fulbright - US Senator
and Chairman of the US Foreign Relations committee - said this before
a national television audience:
"Israel controls the United States Senate. We should be more concerned
about the United States' interests." 36
Nationally syndicated columnist and former presidential candidate
Patrick Buchanan said:
"The United States Congress is Israeli occupied territory." 37
And US religious leader Billy Graham and President Richard Nixon once
had the following exchange, which was caught on tape:
GRAHAM: The Jewish stranglehold on the media has got to be broken or
this country's going down the drain". NIXON: "You believe that?"
GRAHAM: "Yes, sir." NIXON: "Oh boy. So do I. I can't ever say that but
I do believe it" 38
But enough of quoting others. Let's look at the facts of Zionist
control.
FACT: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, UPN, The Washington Post, The New York
Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Daily News, Time
Magazine, Newsweek, People Magazine, US News and World Report and
countless other media and Hollywood companies all have either a
Zionist CEO, a Zionist News Chief, or are owned by a media
conglomerate which has a Zionist CEO. 39 Have you ever noticed how
Hollywood movies always seem to portray Germans and Arabs as a bigoted
fanatics or as terrorists? Now you know why!
FACT: AIPAC, the Israeli lobbying organization, is the most feared
lobby in Washington DC. By their own admission, they are capable of
unseating Congressmen and Senators that do not carry out their
requests. The majority of Congressmen from both political parties
receive large donations from AIPAC. Writing for the Nation Magazine,
journalist Michael Massing explains:
"AIPAC is widely regarded as the most powerful foreign-policy lobby in
Washington. Its 60,000 members shower millions of dollars on hundreds
of members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. Newspapers like the
New York Times fear the Jewish lobby organizations as well. "It's very
intimidating," said a correspondent at another large daily. "The
pressure from these groups is relentless." 40 (emphasis added)
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FACT: The Pentagon is under the control of a hard core Zionist named
Richard Perle. The civilian Defense Policy Board actually wields more
control over the military establishment than the Defense Secretary or
the generals and admirals. There are a number of other Zionists who
serve on the board (Kissinger, Cohen, Schlessinger) as well as
non-jewish members who have always supported Israel and the expansion
of the "War on Terror". The notoriously belligerent Perle, nicknamed
the "The Prince of Darkness", is Chairman of the Board. 41
With Perle as Chairman of the Defense Policy Board, Zionist Paul
Wolfowitz as Undersecretary of Defense, and Zionist award winner
Douglass Feith as Undersecretary of Defense Policy, the Zionist
Pentagon gang controls 3 of the top 4 civilian leadership positions of
America's armed forces. Careerist scoundrels like Condoleeza Rice and
Donald Rumsfeld are either under their influence or unwilling to
oppose their drive for WW III. The Perle-Wolfowitz-Feith gang
represent a fanatical and warmongering
"government-within-a-government". In league with these Zionist
Pentagon conspirators are jewish Zionist and potential 2004
Presidential candidate, Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) and his
Gentile partner in crime Senator
John McCain (R-AZ).
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An Israeli journalist named Ari Shavit, lamenting the harsh treatments
that his government dishes out to the Palestinians, made the following
observation in Ha'aretz, a leading Israeli journal:
" We believe with absolute certitude that now, with the White House
and Senate in our hands along with the Pentagon and the New York
Times, the lives [of Arabs] do not count as much as our own. Their
blood does not count as much as our blood. We believe with absolute
certitude that now, when we have AIPAC [the Israel lobby] and [Edgar]
Bronfman and the Anti-Defamation League, , we truly have the right to
tell 400,000 people that in eight hours they must flee from their
homes. And that we have the right to rain bombs on their villages and
towns and populated areas. That we have the right to kill without any
guilt." 42 (emphasis added)
And this only scratches the surface of Zionist power! With such
awesome power to control and cover up events, is it any wonder why so
many of America's journalists and politicians are afraid to even talk
about this issue? Is it any wonder why former President Bill Clinton
would grovel before a jewish audience and say something as ridiculous
as the following statement:
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across
the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and
fight and die." 43
I could go on and on at much greater length about this subject, but I
want to get back to the dancing Israelis. Have I made my point yet?
Subject: THE ZIONIST *****
From: "Rasputin"

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AMERICA BECOMES THE ZIONIST'S *****
We have reviewed how the Zionists used and discarded Germany. Then
they used and discarded Great Britain. After World War II, it was
clear that the chief remaining global power was the United States. Now
the USA had never had any problem with the Arab people, and had no
reason to quarrel with the Arabs.
For the Zionists to maintain and expand the support they were
receiving from America, it would benefit them greatly if the Arabs and
the mighty US could somehow become enemies. Could the Zionists
possibly stoop so low? Why not? Look at what they had already pulled
off! Remember that the official motto
of the Mossad (Israeli's intelligence organization) is "by way of
deception thou shalt do war." 26
In 1955, one of these "false flag" operations was publicly exposed for
the world to see. Israeli agents, impersonating Arab terrorists, were
caught staging a series of bombings against American installations in
Egypt. 27 When this conspiracy was exposed, it ultimately created such
a controversy that it brought down the Israeli government. The long
since forgotten scandal became known as "the Lavon Affair".
Then again during a 1967 war with the Arabs, Israeli gunboats and
fighter jets deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, an unarmed US
communications ship. 28 Thirty five American sailors were murdered and
170 others injured in a prolonged Israeli onslaught - carried out in
broad daylight and with the U.S. flag flying prominently. The intent
was to kill all of the Americans and then leave the Egyptians to take
the blame. Israel denied that the attack was deliberate but the
chilling stories of the lucky American survivors clearly contradicts
that lie. To this very day, the U.S. Congress has never investigated
the USS Liberty massacre.
In 1989, the Israelis once again succeeded in framing enemy Arabs in
order to enrage America. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrosvky
became so disgusted with the criminal behavior of his own government
that he defected from the Mossad and tried to warn America of just how
evil and dangerous
they were. Ostrosvky revealed exactly how the Israelis framed Libya
for the bombing of a German night club which killed American
servicemen. 29 It was this frame up job that caused President Reagan
to bomb Libya, killing the 4 year old daughter of Libyan leader Muamar
Qadaffi. France refused to allow
US bombers to fly over their air space and bomb Libya because French
intelligence knew that Libya was unjustly framed by the Israelis.
Among some of Ostrovosky's other amazing revelations are: that the
Mossad often uses Arab agents to carry out missions, that Israeli
agents are skilled at impersonating Arabs, that Mossad had a plan to
turn American public opinion against Iraq, and that wealthy Zionists
in America are often called upon to help carry out Mossad missions.
Ostrovsky, whose tell all book, By Way of
Deception, infuriated the Mossad and made him the target of numerous
death threats. 30
In 2001, the Washington Times ran a story about a 68 page research
paper issued by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS).
The research was compiled by 60 US Army officers as an attempt to
predict the possible outcomes of deploying a US force to maintain
peace between the Israel and
Palestinians. Here's what SAMS had to say about the Israeli military
machine:
"a 500 pound gorilla in Israel. Well armed and trained. Operates in
both Gaza and the West Bank. Known to disregard international law to
accomplish mission" 31
Of Israel's Mossad, the officers issued this warning:
"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces
and make it look like a Palestinian Arab act." 32 (emphasis added)
Why does the US, which is trillions of dollars in debt, gives away
billons of taxpayer dollars to a foreign government whose military
violates international laws and whose Mossad is capable of murdering
US troops in order to frame Arabs? Have we lost our minds?
Subject: Bush Must Say 'No' To Israeli Nuclear Blackmail
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Date: 9/20/02 4:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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LaRouche Says: Bush Must Say 'No' To Israeli Nuclear Blackmail
Statement by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. September 18, 2002
Sept. 18 - I am warning President George W. Bush and European leaders:
If weapons inspectors return to Iraq and an otherwise-certain
Iraq-centered new Middle East war by the U.S. is thus averted, the
governments of the United States and Western Europe must be prepared
to forcefully intervene, to prevent an increasingly more desperate and
psychotic Ariel Sharon's nuclear-armed regime in Israel, the world's
third-ranking strategic nuclear-weapons power, from blowing up the
entire Middle East region, and beyond, with those weapons!
Therefore, I issued the following statement on behalf of my 2004
candidacy for the Democratic Presidential nomination.
At an international web cast, before a live audience in Washington on
Sept. 11, 2002, I identified three hurdles that had to be overcome to
avert an Iraq war that would trigger a perpetual "Clash of
Civilizations" religious conflict and a New Dark Age: First, the
United Nations Security Council had to become the venue for dealing
with the Iraq situation, and a reasonable resolution had to be
drafted, that would be agreed to by President Bush, overriding the
Sharon-influenced "war party" within his own Administration's senior
ranks. Second, the resolution had to be accepted by Iraq's Saddam
Hussein, as well as by President Bush. With those two conditions met,
LaRouche warned, the gravest, remaining danger to overcome would be a
berserker move by Sharon in Israel to sabotage the peaceful resolution
and blow up the region.
It was the threat of an Israeli nuclear attack on Iraq in 1991 that
blackmailed the first Bush Administration into launching Operation
Desert Storm. Today's Israel, under the insane Sharon regime, is the
only nation on Earth that genuinely fits the profile of a "rogue
state" armed to the teeth with "weapons of mass destruction." Israel
has the third largest nuclear weapons arsenal on Earth, and a triad of
submarine, missile, and bomber delivery systems, capable of
obliterating the entire Persian Gulf. Israeli scientists have recently
threatened that they now have the capability of launching an
intercontinental ballistic missile, meaning that no place on
Earth-including the United States-is exempt from an Israeli
preemptive nuclear attack. LaRouche asks you: Do you dare dismiss this
threat from Sharon?...
Since the 1956 attack on Egypt by Britain, France, and Israel, until
the 1989-1991 break-up of Soviet power, Israel's access to nuclear
weapons had made it the third "tilt" power in the global strategic
equation.
Already in 1956, it took an experienced military man, President Dwight
Eisenhower, to force Israel to back down from the Suez invasion, after
both Britain and France had withdrawn under American pressure.
Eisenhower not only threatened to cut off all U.S. military and
civilian aid to Israel; he also threatened to remove the tax-exempt
status of all American organizations that provided aid to Israel. An
even more resolute action will now be required from a far-less
qualified President George W. Bush, to stop Sharon from carrying out
either a false-flag "Islamist" terrorist attack against an American
target, or a nuclear attack on Iraq or Iran. This is deadly serious
stuff, and your personal involvement in the effort to stop it is
vital.
Are you prepared to have the Sharon regime in Israel once again
blackmail an American President into starting a war in the Persian
Gulf, out of fear of an Israeli weapons of mass destruction attack on
Baghdad? Do you have any idea what the consequences will be for the
U.S. and world economy, if a new Persian Gulf War, costing American
taxpayers between $2-3 trillion, is launched today, under the current
conditions of a collapsing U.S. economy and a thoroughly bankrupt
world financial system?
I warned that the toleration for the swamp of Sharon agents inside the
Bush Administration, is another grave impediment to the President
taking the urgently required action, in concert with our European
allies and Russia, to stop Sharon from provoking this perpetual war.
In a recent mass-circulation LaRouche in 2004 release, "The Pollard
Affair Never Ended," I named the names of the leading Sharonists
inside the Bush Pentagon and State Department-Paul Wolfowitz, Richard
Perle, Doug Feith, David Wurmser-some of whom literally prepared the
foreign policy doctrine of perpetual war for then-Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in July 1996. These Netanyahu-Sharon Likud
moles inside the Bush foreign policy and national security
establishment are still suspected, now with more and more evidence of
involvement with the convicted Israeli spy, the American-born Jonathan
Pollard.
Since the release and circulation of a million copies of the "Pollard
Affair Never Ended" campaign document, new, even more damning evidence
has surfaced. Therefore, I must intensify my demand for a thorough
national security investigation into key staffers in the Office of
Vice President ***** Cheney, beginning with his chief of staff and
national security advisor, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.
Libby, a protégé of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz for the
past 30 years, has assembled a "shadow national security council" in
the Vice President's Office, which has protected the Israeli agents
nest inside the Pentagon and State Department-and blocked an urgently
needed purge of these Likudniks. Libby ha