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Muslims Want Int'l Law on Respecting Religions .- |
Muslims Want Int'l Law on Respecting Religions
"European laws prohibit insults against ministers and officials but allow ridiculing a sacred figure revered by millions of Muslims," said Belkhadem.
By Abdul Rahman Khuzairan, Waleed Tulmasani, IOL Correspondents
MUSLIM CAPITALS, February 5, 2006 (IslamOnline.net) – A cohort of Muslim dignitaries and organizations are calling for the enactment of an international law banning the publication of any insults to religious symbols and values.
"The United Nations must pass binding resolutions obliging all countries to respect religions and religious symbols, similarly to the anti-Semitism laws," Abdelaziz Belkhadem, Algerian Minister of State and personal representative of President AbdelAziz Bouteflika, told IslamOnline.net.
He accused European countries of adopting double standards in dealing with insults against Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
"European laws prohibit insults against ministers and officials but allow ridiculing a sacred figure revered by millions of Muslims," said Belkhadem, a former foreign minister.
Twelve cartoons, published by Denmark's mass-circulation Jyllands-Posten late September, included portrayals of the Prophet wearing a time-bomb shaped turban and showed him as a knife-wielding nomad flanked by shrouded women.
The drawings have caused an uproar in the Muslim world and triggered a new cultural battle over freedom of speech and respect of religions.
Incensed Muslims have demonstrated against Denmark, burnt its flags and boycotted its products, while several Muslim ambassadors have been recalled in protest.
Respect
The insulting drawings have caused an uproar in the Muslim world.
Saad Al-Din Al-Othmani, the secretary general of the Moroccan Islamic-leaning Justice and Development party, echoed a similar call.
He called during a march in Rabat on Saturday, February 4, for "adopting an international charter on respecting all faiths and religions."
Al-Othmani said the march, joined by thousands of protestors, was meant to send a clear message to the international community that Prophet Muhammad is a red line.
"Muslims would not allow anybody to mock at the prophet."
The Moroccan Human Rights Center also called on the international community and the UN to enact a law banning insults to all divine religions.
Anti-Denmark demonstrations over the insulting cartoons continued Sunday unabated across the Muslim world.
Angry Lebanese protestors set the Danish consulate in the capital Beirut on fire in protest of the drawings, a day after infuriated Syrians torched the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus for the same purpose.
Signatures
Joining the campaign, Tunisian activists began collecting signatures to be sent to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan and European governments, pressing for a law on respecting Islam and its prophet, reported the London-based Al-Quds Press news agency.
"…we ask you to take all measures to guarantee respect of Prophet Muhammad and hold accountable those who violate our religion," reads the message being signed.
The Muslim minority in Denmark has also entered the fray.
"Leaders of the Muslim minority are seeking a UN resolution banning insults against religious symbols and criminalizing such acts," Ahmed Akari, a spokesman for the European Committee for Defending Prophet Muhammad, told IOL.
He urged support for the drive.
"We call on all parties in the Muslim world to drum up support for such a resolution."
The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) and the Arab League, the Muslim world's two main political bodies, are seeking a UN resolution, backed by possible sanctions, to protect religions following the publication of provocative cartoons.
IOL Staff Ahmed Fathy contributed to the story from Cairo.
www.christianexodus.com
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07 Feb 2006 12:18:52 AM |
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"www.christianexodus.com" wrote:
"European laws prohibit insults against ministers and officials but allow
ridiculing a sacred figure revered by millions of Muslims," said Belkhadem.
***** on European laws.
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"www.christianexodus.com" wrote:
"European laws prohibit insults against ministers and officials but allow
ridiculing a sacred figure revered by millions of Muslims," said
Belkhadem.
there is no such European Law...... in fact the Royal Family as ridiculed in
the press and on TV , as are individuals and religous people all over
Europe.
***** on European laws.
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06 Feb 2006 11:52:35 PM |
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"www.christianexodus.com" wrote:
Muslims Want Int'l Law on Respecting Religions
We should say no to Islamic fanatics. They are a terrorist cult who think they
can bully the world.
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07 Feb 2006 02:06:50 PM |
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Traveler wrote:
"www.christianexodus.com" wrote:
Muslims Want Int'l Law on Respecting Religions
We should say no to Islamic fanatics. They are a terrorist cult who think they
can bully the world.
Strange, I thought all those bombers, tanks and troops in the ME were an
indication of the US bullying the world!
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07 Feb 2006 03:05:42 PM |
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European laws prohibit insults against ministers and officials but
allow ridiculing a sacred figure revered by millions of Muslims
Those laws should be repealed, or held to be unconstitutional or
somesuch. In the USA, the Supreme Court would hold such laws to be in
violation of the establishment clause, in that they support one
religion over another. ... Wait a minute, the Catholic Church now
controls a majority of the Supreme Court, never mind.
A cohort of Muslim dignitaries and organizations are calling for the
enactment of an international law banning the publication of any
insults to religious symbols and values.
Wow, a worldwide prohibition on free speech. 1984 may happen finally!
What those Muslim folks are saying is an insult to my religion.
I hereby request each of them be extradited to some place where they
can be tried as terrorists, denied all free speech, denied the right to
speak with a lawyer, denied the right to one phone call, denied the
right to be informed of charges, denied the right to bail, etc.
Restriction on free speech bites both ways. Let them learn the hard way!
Twelve cartoons, published by Denmark's mass-circulation
Jyllands-Posten late September, included portrayals of the Prophet
wearing a time-bomb shaped turban and showed him as a knife-wielding
nomad flanked by shrouded women.
What? I thought only one or two of the cartoons were like that. The
rest were *other* criticism of Mohammed or Islam or terrorists or
suicide bombers etc. What's the real truth here?
The drawings have caused an uproar in the Muslim world and triggered a
new cultural battle over freedom of speech and respect of religions.
Incensed Muslims have demonstrated against Denmark, burnt its flags and
boycotted its products, while several Muslim ambassadors have been
recalled in protest
And they've torched/ransacked embassies, which IMO is not the best
response. Instead, they should draw their own cartoons making fun
specifically of the Danes who allowed the original postings, and the
Kiwi etc. who re-posted them. For the Danes, how about cartoons of
Vikings pillaging the British Isles? They could even yell "SPAM" at the
top of their lungs. Recycle the old Monty Python skit, but with faces
changed to be the specific faces of the newspaper officials and
cartoonist responsible. For the Kiwis, do an adaption of "March of the
Penguins", using Kiwi birds with faces of the NZ newspaper editor who
authorized re-printing them, with them marching off the edge of a cliff
like Lemmings, blindly following the Vikings who jumped off first.
(Hey, any cartoonist want to hire me to give you such great ideas on a
regular basis? If you use these first two ideas, you owe me a royality
of course, but due to the political need I'll ask only a token payment,
just to keep you honest.)
Prophet Muhammad is a red line.
That's all he is? Just a line? Not a human being, not a prophet?
Who is the idiot who said that about him??
I suggest a cartoon depicting a red line in the center of the picture,
with sevral Muslims bowing to that red line. At least the Nazis had two
zigzag lines that crossed each other instead of just one line to
worship.
Hey, how about this multi-frame cartoon:
Frame 1: Jews praying to hexagram.
Frame 2: Americans saluting stars and stripes.
Frame 3: Nazis saluting swastika.
Frame 4: Muslims bowing to red line.
Frame 5: Zen Buddhists praying to .... (nothing).
Muslims would not allow anybody to mock at the prophet.
In their jurisdiction, countries ruled by Islamic law, they have that right.
Elsewhere, they lack jurisdiction to enforce any such disallowance.
The United Nations must not allow itself to be henchman for any one religion.
The United Nations absolutely must not allow itself to be used against free speech.
The Moroccan Human Rights Center also called on the international
community and the UN to enact a law banning insults to all divine
religions.
And who is qualified to judge which religions are divine and which aren't?
Any such law would be from the outset a sham whereby somebody in power
gets to suppress all other religions as "not divine". Vote NO!!!
"we ask you to take all measures to guarantee respect of Prophet Muhammad ..."
Mohammed was a worthless piece of crap. He deserves no special respect.
If somebody likes him, that person can respect him, but has no right to
demand anybody else respect him.
The people who deserve respect are the scientists and inventors who
have made our world a better place to live. There should be a law
demanding respect for Darwin, Galileo, Einstein, Watt, Jobs, Shannon, etc.
For example, Chick, who writes utter lies in contempt of Darwin,
including disgusting cartoons of Darwin's visual appearance, and
strawman mockeries of the theory of evolution, should be hung by the
neck until he is dead. The only scientists who don't deserve special
worldwide respect are of two kinds:
- The ones who directly participated in inventions of debatable use,
such as the people who worked in the Manhattan Project and the Soviet
counterpart, such as Oppenheimer;
- The ones who faked their results, such as Hwang Woo Suk of Korea.
Only a few non-scientists, deserve special respect.
Mahatma Ghandi is one of them.
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08 Feb 2006 08:44:33 PM |
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"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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Frank Arthur wrote:
What a joke!
The most vicious Islamic attacks on Christians and Jews from every
Muslim
country is now calling for respect for religions!
Don't you think it just a little strange that "Christians" have been
occupying much of the ME for the last century but Muslims haven't been
occupying Christian territories???
What "Much of the ME" Christians have been occupying ?
Which bit haven't they occupied in the last hundred years?
Ok, smart *****, go ahead and tell your story what you know..
I wish that would be
true. If the Mid East would be Christian, Arab fascism would be
contained.
"Arab facism" is nothing more than people being ***** at the
western interference in their countries.
Arab fascism is inbred intolerance, hatred and the obsessive tendency
forcefully to impose their barbaric creed on all their non-Muslim neighbors
.. Today the Arab world is a sink of corruption and. the most horrific and
murderous tyrannies.
They would simply slaughtered each other, as they have been doing that
for
centuries , strictly in one filthy place called Arabia.
Considering the fact that civilization started in the ME and has
continued for the last 8000 years and further the fact that the
interference and wars have come from the barbarian west, I think it's
time you put your head back in the hole where you normally keep it.
Wars not came from the West , born fool. When pedophile and psychopath
Mohammed cursed this world with creating his toxic , hateful
creed in 7th century , since then wars in the name of Islam continue
non-stopped. This chronic pattern of Arab intolerance and aggression
on both religious and ethnic levels has implications for all the local
conflicts in the Middle East. But 90%-95% of all the conflicts
on this planet today involve muslims fighting non-Muslims or each other.
Learn facts and history, clown. Your bolshevik agitprop sounds outright
primitive and stupid
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07 Feb 2006 03:09:59 PM |
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bigot1 sez:
"Those laws should be repealed, or held to be unconstitutional or
somesuch. In the USA, the Supreme Court would hold such laws to be in
violation of the establishment clause, in that they support one
religion over another. ... Wait a minute, the Catholic Church now
controls a majority of the Supreme Court, never mind..."
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Cute!
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05 Feb 2006 02:47:44 PM |
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What a joke!
The most vicious Islamic attacks on Christians and Jews from every Muslim
country is now calling for respect for religions!
"www.christianexodus.com" <askme2@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:6ftFf.7946$Iy4.2097@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
Muslims Want Int'l Law on Respecting Religions
"European laws prohibit insults against ministers and officials but allow
ridiculing a sacred figure revered by millions of Muslims," said
Belkhadem.
By Abdul Rahman Khuzairan, Waleed Tulmasani, IOL Correspondents
MUSLIM CAPITALS, February 5, 2006 (IslamOnline.net) - A cohort of Muslim
dignitaries and organizations are calling for the enactment of an
international law banning the publication of any insults to religious
symbols and values.
"The United Nations must pass binding resolutions obliging all countries
to respect religions and religious symbols, similarly to the anti-Semitism
laws," Abdelaziz Belkhadem, Algerian Minister of State and personal
representative of President AbdelAziz Bouteflika, told IslamOnline.net.
He accused European countries of adopting double standards in dealing with
insults against Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
"European laws prohibit insults against ministers and officials but allow
ridiculing a sacred figure revered by millions of Muslims," said
Belkhadem, a former foreign minister.
Twelve cartoons, published by Denmark's mass-circulation Jyllands-Posten
late September, included portrayals of the Prophet wearing a time-bomb
shaped turban and showed him as a knife-wielding nomad flanked by shrouded
women.
The drawings have caused an uproar in the Muslim world and triggered a new
cultural battle over freedom of speech and respect of religions.
Incensed Muslims have demonstrated against Denmark, burnt its flags and
boycotted its products, while several Muslim ambassadors have been
recalled in protest.
Respect
The insulting drawings have caused an uproar in the Muslim world.
Saad Al-Din Al-Othmani, the secretary general of the Moroccan
Islamic-leaning Justice and Development party, echoed a similar call.
He called during a march in Rabat on Saturday, February 4, for "adopting
an international charter on respecting all faiths and religions."
Al-Othmani said the march, joined by thousands of protestors, was meant to
send a clear message to the international community that Prophet Muhammad
is a red line.
"Muslims would not allow anybody to mock at the prophet."
The Moroccan Human Rights Center also called on the international
community and the UN to enact a law banning insults to all divine
religions.
Anti-Denmark demonstrations over the insulting cartoons continued Sunday
unabated across the Muslim world.
Angry Lebanese protestors set the Danish consulate in the capital Beirut
on fire in protest of the drawings, a day after infuriated Syrians torched
the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus for the same purpose.
Signatures
Joining the campaign, Tunisian activists began collecting signatures to be
sent to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan and European governments, pressing
for a law on respecting Islam and its prophet, reported the London-based
Al-Quds Press news agency.
".we ask you to take all measures to guarantee respect of Prophet Muhammad
and hold accountable those who violate our religion," reads the message
being signed.
The Muslim minority in Denmark has also entered the fray.
"Leaders of the Muslim minority are seeking a UN resolution banning
insults against religious symbols and criminalizing such acts," Ahmed
Akari, a spokesman for the European Committee for Defending Prophet
Muhammad, told IOL.
He urged support for the drive.
"We call on all parties in the Muslim world to drum up support for such a
resolution."
The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) and the Arab League, the
Muslim world's two main political bodies, are seeking a UN resolution,
backed by possible sanctions, to protect religions following the
publication of provocative cartoons.
IOL Staff Ahmed Fathy contributed to the story from Cairo.
www.christianexodus.com
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05 Feb 2006 03:36:05 PM |
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"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
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What a joke!
The most vicious Islamic attacks on Christians and Jews from every Muslim
country is now calling for respect for religions!
Not religions, but a religion. The only religion they want to respect is
Islam.
"www.christianexodus.com" <askme2@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:6ftFf.7946$Iy4.2097@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
Muslims Want Int'l Law on Respecting Religions
"European laws prohibit insults against ministers and officials but allow
ridiculing a sacred figure revered by millions of Muslims," said
Belkhadem.
By Abdul Rahman Khuzairan, Waleed Tulmasani, IOL Correspondents
MUSLIM CAPITALS, February 5, 2006 (IslamOnline.net) - A cohort of Muslim
dignitaries and organizations are calling for the enactment of an
international law banning the publication of any insults to religious
symbols and values.
"The United Nations must pass binding resolutions obliging all countries
to respect religions and religious symbols, similarly to the
anti-Semitism laws," Abdelaziz Belkhadem, Algerian Minister of State and
personal representative of President AbdelAziz Bouteflika, told
IslamOnline.net.
He accused European countries of adopting double standards in dealing
with insults against Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
"European laws prohibit insults against ministers and officials but allow
ridiculing a sacred figure revered by millions of Muslims," said
Belkhadem, a former foreign minister.
Twelve cartoons, published by Denmark's mass-circulation Jyllands-Posten
late September, included portrayals of the Prophet wearing a time-bomb
shaped turban and showed him as a knife-wielding nomad flanked by
shrouded women.
The drawings have caused an uproar in the Muslim world and triggered a
new cultural battle over freedom of speech and respect of religions.
Incensed Muslims have demonstrated against Denmark, burnt its flags and
boycotted its products, while several Muslim ambassadors have been
recalled in protest.
Respect
The insulting drawings have caused an uproar in the Muslim world.
Saad Al-Din Al-Othmani, the secretary general of the Moroccan
Islamic-leaning Justice and Development party, echoed a similar call.
He called during a march in Rabat on Saturday, February 4, for "adopting
an international charter on respecting all faiths and religions."
Al-Othmani said the march, joined by thousands of protestors, was meant
to send a clear message to the international community that Prophet
Muhammad is a red line.
"Muslims would not allow anybody to mock at the prophet."
The Moroccan Human Rights Center also called on the international
community and the UN to enact a law banning insults to all divine
religions.
Anti-Denmark demonstrations over the insulting cartoons continued Sunday
unabated across the Muslim world.
Angry Lebanese protestors set the Danish consulate in the capital Beirut
on fire in protest of the drawings, a day after infuriated Syrians
torched the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus for the same
purpose.
Signatures
Joining the campaign, Tunisian activists began collecting signatures to
be sent to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan and European governments,
pressing for a law on respecting Islam and its prophet, reported the
London-based Al-Quds Press news agency.
".we ask you to take all measures to guarantee respect of Prophet
Muhammad and hold accountable those who violate our religion," reads the
message being signed.
The Muslim minority in Denmark has also entered the fray.
"Leaders of the Muslim minority are seeking a UN resolution banning
insults against religious symbols and criminalizing such acts," Ahmed
Akari, a spokesman for the European Committee for Defending Prophet
Muhammad, told IOL.
He urged support for the drive.
"We call on all parties in the Muslim world to drum up support for such a
resolution."
The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) and the Arab League, the
Muslim world's two main political bodies, are seeking a UN resolution,
backed by possible sanctions, to protect religions following the
publication of provocative cartoons.
IOL Staff Ahmed Fathy contributed to the story from Cairo.
www.christianexodus.com
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05 Feb 2006 11:18:16 PM |
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staten wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
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What a joke!
The most vicious Islamic attacks on Christians and Jews from every Muslim
country is now calling for respect for religions!
Not religions, but a religion. The only religion they want to respect is
Islam.
You've seen cartoons in Muslim newspapers showng Christ with bombs in
his hat???
"www.christianexodus.com" <askme2@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:6ftFf.7946$Iy4.2097@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
Muslims Want Int'l Law on Respecting Religions
"European laws prohibit insults against ministers and officials but allow
ridiculing a sacred figure revered by millions of Muslims," said
Belkhadem.
By Abdul Rahman Khuzairan, Waleed Tulmasani, IOL Correspondents
MUSLIM CAPITALS, February 5, 2006 (IslamOnline.net) - A cohort of Muslim
dignitaries and organizations are calling for the enactment of an
international law banning the publication of any insults to religious
symbols and values.
"The United Nations must pass binding resolutions obliging all countries
to respect religions and religious symbols, similarly to the
anti-Semitism laws," Abdelaziz Belkhadem, Algerian Minister of State and
personal representative of President AbdelAziz Bouteflika, told
IslamOnline.net.
He accused European countries of adopting double standards in dealing
with insults against Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
"European laws prohibit insults against ministers and officials but allow
ridiculing a sacred figure revered by millions of Muslims," said
Belkhadem, a former foreign minister.
Twelve cartoons, published by Denmark's mass-circulation Jyllands-Posten
late September, included portrayals of the Prophet wearing a time-bomb
shaped turban and showed him as a knife-wielding nomad flanked by
shrouded women.
The drawings have caused an uproar in the Muslim world and triggered a
new cultural battle over freedom of speech and respect of religions.
Incensed Muslims have demonstrated against Denmark, burnt its flags and
boycotted its products, while several Muslim ambassadors have been
recalled in protest.
Respect
The insulting drawings have caused an uproar in the Muslim world.
Saad Al-Din Al-Othmani, the secretary general of the Moroccan
Islamic-leaning Justice and Development party, echoed a similar call.
He called during a march in Rabat on Saturday, February 4, for "adopting
an international charter on respecting all faiths and religions."
Al-Othmani said the march, joined by thousands of protestors, was meant
to send a clear message to the international community that Prophet
Muhammad is a red line.
"Muslims would not allow anybody to mock at the prophet."
The Moroccan Human Rights Center also called on the international
community and the UN to enact a law banning insults to all divine
religions.
Anti-Denmark demonstrations over the insulting cartoons continued Sunday
unabated across the Muslim world.
Angry Lebanese protestors set the Danish consulate in the capital Beirut
on fire in protest of the drawings, a day after infuriated Syrians
torched the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus for the same
purpose.
Signatures
Joining the campaign, Tunisian activists began collecting signatures to
be sent to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan and European governments,
pressing for a law on respecting Islam and its prophet, reported the
London-based Al-Quds Press news agency.
".we ask you to take all measures to guarantee respect of Prophet
Muhammad and hold accountable those who violate our religion," reads the
message being signed.
The Muslim minority in Denmark has also entered the fray.
"Leaders of the Muslim minority are seeking a UN resolution banning
insults against religious symbols and criminalizing such acts," Ahmed
Akari, a spokesman for the European Committee for Defending Prophet
Muhammad, told IOL.
He urged support for the drive.
"We call on all parties in the Muslim world to drum up support for such a
resolution."
The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) and the Arab League, the
Muslim world's two main political bodies, are seeking a UN resolution,
backed by possible sanctions, to protect religions following the
publication of provocative cartoons.
IOL Staff Ahmed Fathy contributed to the story from Cairo.
www.christianexodus.com
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staten wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
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What a joke!
The most vicious Islamic attacks on Christians and Jews from every
Muslim
country is now calling for respect for religions!
Not religions, but a religion. The only religion they want to respect is
Islam.
You've seen cartoons in Muslim newspapers showng Christ with bombs in
his hat???
That would be simply blessing for all Christians if Muslims were limit
themselves just to scribbling anti-Christ cartoons. But their intolerance is
far worse than the most nasty cartoon may be drawn ever. Muslims vandalize
and desecrate Synagogues and Jewish cemeteries . Muslims burn churches,
persecute and kill Christians. Muslims depict Jews and Christians as pigs
and monkeys. Muslims desecrate and destroy Bibles. As a matter of official
policy, the Saudi government do not allow Bibles into the country. If found
, Bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia is either incinerated or
dumped. But in some cases in Saudi Arabia for possessing the Bible you even
may get killed. In September 1993, Sadeq Mallallah (Arab Christian) , 23,
was beheaded in Qateef on a charge of apostasy for owning a Bible. In Egypt
the Copts are the permanent object of attacks . Their Churches are burnt ,
their priests are killed. In 1952 after hearing the Friday sermon in a
mosque in the City of Suez, a Muslim mob armed with butchers' hooks dragged
nine Christians into the St. Antonius Coptic Church and burned them alive.
The murderers and the inflammatory sheikh were never brought to justice.
So, all this hysteria about cartoons with the rabid foam at the mouth
initiated by the Moslems is nothing else but a highest degree hypocrisy .
Besides , why Moslems , like their Mullahs for instance , think it is
insulting to show the Prophet's turban turned into a bomb. Their Mullahs
,like Quardawi , never stops telling us that Islam commands its followers to
blow other people up. For these sand Muslim monkeys it is a "great honor" .
But if so, cartoons just reflect their reality . And do it without hysteria,
burning churches and embassies , without death threats and calls for
beheadings. Fell the difference?
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06 Feb 2006 07:54:58 PM |
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staten wrote:
"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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staten wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
news:%stFf.7434$_i2.2763@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
What a joke!
The most vicious Islamic attacks on Christians and Jews from every
Muslim
country is now calling for respect for religions!
Not religions, but a religion. The only religion they want to respect is
Islam.
You've seen cartoons in Muslim newspapers showng Christ with bombs in
his hat???
That would be simply blessing for all Christians if Muslims were limit
themselves just to scribbling anti-Christ cartoons.
Generally they do!
But their intolerance is
far worse than the most nasty cartoon may be drawn ever.
Worse than bombing villages?
Muslims vandalize
and desecrate Synagogues and Jewish cemeteries .
There's been a fair bit of Christians vandalizing Jewish cemetaries and
mosques as well!
Muslims burn churches,
persecute and kill Christians.
When and where did that happen?
AFAIK the Crusades were made against Muslims.
The ME tends to be full of Western soldiers, oil men etc - not nearly so
many ME men in Christian countries ripping off the West!
Muslims depict Jews and Christians as pigs
and monkeys.
I think you've been reading too much yank propaganda!
Muslims desecrate and destroy Bibles.
I think you're confusing yank soldiers desicrating and destroying the
Koran while torturing Muslims!
As a matter of official
policy, the Saudi government do not allow Bibles into the country.
The US has propped up that corrupt feudal monarchy far too long.
If found
, Bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia is either incinerated or
dumped. But in some cases in Saudi Arabia for possessing the Bible you even
may get killed.
Don't get too carried away - being black can get you killed in the USa.
In September 1993, Sadeq Mallallah (Arab Christian) , 23,
was beheaded in Qateef on a charge of apostasy for owning a Bible. In Egypt
the Copts are the permanent object of attacks . Their Churches are burnt ,
their priests are killed. In 1952 after hearing the Friday sermon in a
mosque in the City of Suez, a Muslim mob armed with butchers' hooks dragged
nine Christians into the St. Antonius Coptic Church and burned them alive.
The murderers and the inflammatory sheikh were never brought to justice.
You want a list of religious crimes carried out in the US circa 1952???
So, all this hysteria about cartoons with the rabid foam at the mouth
initiated by the Moslems is nothing else but a highest degree hypocrisy .
Yanks would know all about hypocrisy - for example your support of
Saddam Hussein, Saudi, Kuwait etc while claiming to support democracy.
Besides , why Moslems , like their Mullahs for instance , think it is
insulting to show the Prophet's turban turned into a bomb. Their Mullahs
,like Quardawi , never stops telling us that Islam commands its followers to
blow other people up. For these sand Muslim monkeys it is a "great honor" .
But if so, cartoons just reflect their reality . And do it without hysteria,
burning churches and embassies , without death threats and calls for
beheadings. Fell the difference?
You're a very confused little erk, are you not?
Amongst around one billion people, you're bound to find a tiny
percentage who think that blowing up a few yank invaders or a few
infidels is a good idea - hell, amongst 290 million yanks there are a
few who think they are God's favorite people when in reality they are
the scum of the earth!
Regards,
Greg.P.
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07 Feb 2006 01:31:15 AM |
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"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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staten wrote:
"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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staten wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
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What a joke!
The most vicious Islamic attacks on Christians and Jews from every
Muslim
country is now calling for respect for religions!
Not religions, but a religion. The only religion they want to respect
is
Islam.
You've seen cartoons in Muslim newspapers showng Christ with bombs in
his hat???
That would be simply blessing for all Christians if Muslims were limit
themselves just to scribbling anti-Christ cartoons.
Generally they do!
If so, why is that better than a Dane drawing a cartoon of Mohammed?
But their intolerance is
far worse than the most nasty cartoon may be drawn ever.
Worse than bombing villages?
Muslims do that too. I refer you to Darfur.
Muslims vandalize
and desecrate Synagogues and Jewish cemeteries .
There's been a fair bit of Christians vandalizing Jewish cemetaries and
mosques as well!
How much is a "fair bit"? Cite one example, please.
Muslims burn churches,
persecute and kill Christians.
When and where did that happen?
In Pakistan. In the Phillipines, In Indonesia, in Africa, etc., etc., etc.
Are you in denial, or what?
AFAIK the Crusades were made against Muslims.
The crusades happened hundreds of years ago. Clue - this is the 21st
century, not the 13th century. Now, I know that radical muslims want to
roll the clock back that far, but if so, are they willing to risk ANOTHER
crusade?
The ME tends to be full of Western soldiers, oil men etc - not nearly so
many ME men in Christian countries ripping off the West!
Umm, considering that the price of oil is about $67/gallon, one has to ask
"who is ripping off whom"?
Muslims depict Jews and Christians as pigs
and monkeys.
I think you've been reading too much yank propaganda!
I think you've been sleep with your head in the sand for far too long.
Muslims desecrate and destroy Bibles.
I think you're confusing yank soldiers desicrating and destroying the
Koran while torturing Muslims!
http://www.mideasttruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8405
http://www.leaderu.com/common/saudiarabia.html
http://xrdarabia.org/blog/archives/2005/04/29/christians-arrested/
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5967_1385180,001600060001.htm
As a matter of official
policy, the Saudi government do not allow Bibles into the country.
The US has propped up that corrupt feudal monarchy far too long.
That is your response? Everyone buys oil from the Saudis, dude. Whether
or not we buy oil from them is irrelevant to their treatment of other
religions. They've done it since Mohammed killed his first Jew, boy.
If found
, Bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia is either
incinerated or
dumped. But in some cases in Saudi Arabia for possessing the Bible you
even
may get killed.
Don't get too carried away - being black can get you killed in the USa.
I'm sure you wish that were true.
In September 1993, Sadeq Mallallah (Arab Christian) , 23,
was beheaded in Qateef on a charge of apostasy for owning a Bible. In
Egypt
the Copts are the permanent object of attacks . Their Churches are burnt
,
their priests are killed. In 1952 after hearing the Friday sermon in a
mosque in the City of Suez, a Muslim mob armed with butchers' hooks
dragged
nine Christians into the St. Antonius Coptic Church and burned them
alive.
The murderers and the inflammatory sheikh were never brought to justice.
You want a list of religious crimes carried out in the US circa 1952???
Well? We're waiting?
So, all this hysteria about cartoons with the rabid foam at the mouth
initiated by the Moslems is nothing else but a highest degree hypocrisy
.
Yanks would know all about hypocrisy - for example your support of
Saddam Hussein, Saudi, Kuwait etc while claiming to support democracy.
As opposed to Russia's support for ole Saddam, or France's, or Germany's,
or Urkaine's? Your point is?
Besides , why Moslems , like their Mullahs for instance , think it is
insulting to show the Prophet's turban turned into a bomb. Their Mullahs
,like Quardawi , never stops telling us that Islam commands its
followers to
blow other people up. For these sand Muslim monkeys it is a "great
honor" .
But if so, cartoons just reflect their reality . And do it without
hysteria,
burning churches and embassies , without death threats and calls for
beheadings. Fell the difference?
You're a very confused little erk, are you not?
Amongst around one billion people, you're bound to find a tiny
percentage who think that blowing up a few yank invaders or a few
infidels is a good idea - hell, amongst 290 million yanks there are a
few who think they are God's favorite people when in reality they are
the scum of the earth!
Regards,
Greg.P.
Umm, there are over 900,000,000 Muslims in the world today. Even if only
0.1% were terrorists, or supporters of terrorists, that means that there
are 90,000,000 Muslim terrorists and terrorist supporters around the world.
Even if only 0.01% were terrorists, that still means that there are
9,000,000 terrorists, and terrorist supporters. And you apparently think
they are just peachy keen! Seems that YOU are the scum, pal.
George
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07 Feb 2006 01:54:34 PM |
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George wrote:
"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:43E7FDF2.D1ECB13@ihug.co.nz...
staten wrote:
"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:43E6DC18.279649E6@ihug.co.nz...>
staten wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
news:%stFf.7434$_i2.2763@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
What a joke!
The most vicious Islamic attacks on Christians and Jews from every
Muslim
country is now calling for respect for religions!
Not religions, but a religion. The only religion they want to respect
is
Islam.
You've seen cartoons in Muslim newspapers showng Christ with bombs in
his hat???
That would be simply blessing for all Christians if Muslims were limit
themselves just to scribbling anti-Christ cartoons.
Generally they do!
If so, why is that better than a Dane drawing a cartoon of Mohammed?
Not doing something offensive is easily discernable from doing something
offensive.
If you can't figure out why not being offensive is better than being
offensive ...
But their intolerance is
far worse than the most nasty cartoon may be drawn ever.
Worse than bombing villages?
Muslims do that too. I refer you to Darfur.
Yanks do that, which is why you qualify as terrorists.
Muslims vandalize
and desecrate Synagogues and Jewish cemeteries .
There's been a fair bit of Christians vandalizing Jewish cemetaries and
mosques as well!
How much is a "fair bit"? Cite one example, please.
Auckland.
Muslims burn churches,
persecute and kill Christians.
When and where did that happen?
In Pakistan. In the Phillipines, In Indonesia, in Africa, etc., etc., etc.
Are you in denial, or what?
So you can find examples of Muslims burning churches and persecuting
Christians - go look at Iraq today - yank Christians persecuting
Muslims.
Go take a look at Palestine today, Jews persecuting Muslims.
AFAIK the Crusades were made against Muslims.
The crusades happened hundreds of years ago. Clue - this is the 21st
century, not the 13th century. Now, I know that radical muslims want to
roll the clock back that far, but if so, are they willing to risk ANOTHER
crusade?
You've got a crusade in the 21st century - westerners/christians
occupying most of the ME or imposing non-democratic governments on
Muslims.
The ME tends to be full of Western soldiers, oil men etc - not nearly so
many ME men in Christian countries ripping off the West!
Umm, considering that the price of oil is about $67/gallon, one has to ask
"who is ripping off whom"?
That's easily answered - yanks ripping off Muslims.
What is the true value of oil?
The true value is the cost of other sources of energy that might replace
oil.
If you figure that one out you'll conclude the true value is about 5
times the current price.
Muslims depict Jews and Christians as pigs
and monkeys.
I think you've been reading too much yank propaganda!
I think you've been sleep with your head in the sand for far too long.
There are plenty of Muslims around here - they fit in quiet well in our
society. They certainly don't depict Jews and Christians as pigs and
monkeys. Your suggesting such a thing demonstrates your prejudices.
Muslims desecrate and destroy Bibles.
I think you're confusing yank soldiers desicrating and destroying the
Koran while torturing Muslims!
http://www.mideasttruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8405
http://www.leaderu.com/common/saudiarabia.html
http://xrdarabia.org/blog/archives/2005/04/29/christians-arrested/
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5967_1385180,001600060001.htm
As a matter of official
policy, the Saudi government do not allow Bibles into the country.
The US has propped up that corrupt feudal monarchy far too long.
That is your response?
Exactly. You put them there in power - as usual you're anti-democracy.
Everyone buys oil from the Saudis, dude.
Very true - so?
Whether
or not we buy oil from them is irrelevant to their treatment of other
religions.
Muslims only come second to Buddists in their overall tolerance of other
religions.
Christians and Jews fall off the bottom of the tolerance ladder, as you
so ably demonstrate.
They've done it since Mohammed killed his first Jew, boy.
Oh Wow! Do you drive a Chevy truck with a gun rack and place burning
crosses on black peoples front lawns?
If found
, Bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia is either
incinerated or
dumped. But in some cases in Saudi Arabia for possessing the Bible you
even
may get killed.
Don't get too carried away - being black can get you killed in the USa.
I'm sure you wish that were true.
Not at all, but I can read history books and read my newspaper.
In September 1993, Sadeq Mallallah (Arab Christian) , 23,
was beheaded in Qateef on a charge of apostasy for owning a Bible. In
Egypt
the Copts are the permanent object of attacks . Their Churches are burnt
,
their priests are killed. In 1952 after hearing the Friday sermon in a
mosque in the City of Suez, a Muslim mob armed with butchers' hooks
dragged
nine Christians into the St. Antonius Coptic Church and burned them
alive.
The murderers and the inflammatory sheikh were never brought to justice.
You want a list of religious crimes carried out in the US circa 1952???
Well? We're waiting?
Why bother.
So, all this hysteria about cartoons with the rabid foam at the mouth
initiated by the Moslems is nothing else but a highest degree hypocrisy
.
Yanks would know all about hypocrisy - for example your support of
Saddam Hussein, Saudi, Kuwait etc while claiming to support democracy.
As opposed to Russia's support for ole Saddam, or France's, or Germany's,
or Urkaine's? Your point is?
You supported Saddam into power. You supported him to maintain him
there.
Your fuckwitted propaganda about Russia, France and Germany relates to
their efforts to create a deal for post-sanction oil deals - you
fuckwitted yanks had to invade to get the oil for yourselves.
Besides , why Moslems , like their Mullahs for instance , think it is
insulting to show the Prophet's turban turned into a bomb. Their Mullahs
,like Quardawi , never stops telling us that Islam commands its
followers to
blow other people up. For these sand Muslim monkeys it is a "great
honor" .
But if so, cartoons just reflect their reality . And do it without
hysteria,
burning churches and embassies , without death threats and calls for
beheadings. Fell the difference?
You're a very confused little erk, are you not?
Amongst around one billion people, you're bound to find a tiny
percentage who think that blowing up a few yank invaders or a few
infidels is a good idea - hell, amongst 290 million yanks there are a
few who think they are God's favorite people when in reality they are
the scum of the earth!
Regards,
Greg.P.
Umm, there are over 900,000,000 Muslims in the world today.
You've almost got that bit figured!
Even if only
0.1% were terrorists, or supporters of terrorists, that means that there
are 90,000,000 Muslim terrorists and terrorist supporters around the world.
Seems like you understand 'basic maths'!
Seems like you failed 'basic facts'.
Exactly where do you get the 0.1% figure from?
If there are 290 million yanks and 51% are terrorists then there are
147,900,000 yank Christian terrorists, more than your figure for Muslim
terrorists.
Even if only 0.01% were terrorists, that still means that there are
9,000,000 terrorists, and terrorist supporters. And you apparently think
they are just peachy keen! Seems that YOU are the scum, pal.
if there are 9 million Muslim terrorists then that leaves over
899,991,000 peaceloving Muslims that _you_ are prepared to persecute
just because you are the scum of the earth.
Regards,
Greg.P.
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| User: "George" |
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| Title: Re: Muslims Want Int'l Law on Respecting Religions .- |
07 Feb 2006 07:50:40 PM |
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"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:43E8FAFA.338CD968@ihug.co.nz...
George wrote:
"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:43E7FDF2.D1ECB13@ihug.co.nz...
staten wrote:
"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:43E6DC18.279649E6@ihug.co.nz...>
staten wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
news:%stFf.7434$_i2.2763@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
What a joke!
The most vicious Islamic attacks on Christians and Jews from
every
Muslim
country is now calling for respect for religions!
Not religions, but a religion. The only religion they want to
respect
is
Islam.
You've seen cartoons in Muslim newspapers showng Christ with bombs
in
his hat???
That would be simply blessing for all Christians if Muslims were
limit
themselves just to scribbling anti-Christ cartoons.
Generally they do!
If so, why is that better than a Dane drawing a cartoon of Mohammed?
Not doing something offensive is easily discernable from doing something
offensive.
If you can't figure out why not being offensive is better than being
offensive ...
Define "offensive". Oh, right. There's the rub. According to your logic,
if a Muslim draws a cartoon of Christ with bombs in his hat, it isn't
offensive. If a Dane does the same to Mohammed, it is offensive. So
explain to me why I should care whether or not any of this is offensive.
But their intolerance is
far worse than the most nasty cartoon may be drawn ever.
Worse than bombing villages?
Muslims do that too. I refer you to Darfur.
Yanks do that, which is why you qualify as terrorists.
Umm, Yanks bomb villages in Darfur? And you have proof of this, of course.
Care to show up your proof?
Muslims vandalize
and desecrate Synagogues and Jewish cemeteries .
There's been a fair bit of Christians vandalizing Jewish cemetaries
and
mosques as well!
How much is a "fair bit"? Cite one example, please.
Auckland.
Ok, there's one dot on your graph (assumming that there is evidence for
it). How is that "a fair bit"? Any more?
Muslims burn churches,
persecute and kill Christians.
When and where did that happen?
In Pakistan. In the Phillipines, In Indonesia, in Africa, etc., etc.,
etc.
Are you in denial, or what?
So you can find examples of Muslims burning churches and persecuting
Christians - go look at Iraq today - yank Christians persecuting
Muslims.
How are "Yank Christians" persecuting Muslims in Iraq? Be specific now.
Don't hold back.
Go take a look at Palestine today, Jews persecuting Muslims.
Yawn.
The crusades happened hundreds of years ago. Clue - this is the 21st
century, not the 13th century. Now, I know that radical muslims want to
roll the clock back that far, but if so, are they willing to risk
ANOTHER
crusade?
You've got a crusade in the 21st century - westerners/christians
occupying most of the ME or imposing non-democratic governments on
Muslims.
Really? Most of the ME? Let's do a tundown of ME countries and see if
this is true.
Lebanon - nope. No Yank army there.
Israel - Nope. No Yank army there.
Syria - Ditto
Iraq - Hmm. About 20 armies there (not including insurgents and foreign
terrorist groups, and of course, Iran)
Saudi Arabia - Minimal presence, invited by Saudis.
Iran - nope, no Yanks there
Shall I continue? DO you see a pattern yet?
The ME tends to be full of Western soldiers, oil men etc - not nearly
so
many ME men in Christian countries ripping off the West!
Umm, considering that the price of oil is about $67/gallon, one has to
ask
"who is ripping off whom"?
That's easily answered - yanks ripping off Muslims.
Wah, wah!!! You really should take your meds.
What is the true value of oil?
Right now, about $67/barrel (not gallon)
The true value is the cost of other sources of energy that might replace
oil.
Oh, you mean like coal, which WE have plenty of?
If you figure that one out you'll conclude the true value is about 5
times the current price.
Please show your math work, or you will be accused of copying from some
student next to you.
Muslims depict Jews and Christians as pigs
and monkeys.
I think you've been reading too much yank propaganda!
I think you've been sleep with your head in the sand for far too long.
There are plenty of Muslims around here - they fit in quiet well in our
society. They certainly don't depict Jews and Christians as pigs and
monkeys. Your suggesting such a thing demonstrates your prejudices.
Wow, one dot on a different graph. New Zealand is certainly NOT a bastion
of Islam, though I have no doubt some would like to make it so. The fact
is that Muslim cartoonists in the ME DO portray Jews and Christians as pigs
and monkeys. No doubt, that makes you happy. So how is it that you aren't
a bigot, given you predisposition for ranting on and on about Americans, as
if America is the cause of ALL the world's problems?
Muslims desecrate and destroy Bibles.
I think you're confusing yank soldiers desicrating and destroying the
Koran while torturing Muslims!
http://www.mideasttruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8405
http://www.leaderu.com/common/saudiarabia.html
http://xrdarabia.org/blog/archives/2005/04/29/christians-arrested/
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5967_1385180,001600060001.htm
I'll take your silence here as an admission that you now recognize that
Muslims desecrate and destroy bibles, and persecute people of other
religions.
As a matter of official
policy, the Saudi government do not allow Bibles into the country.
The US has propped up that corrupt feudal monarchy far too long.
That is your response?
Exactly. You put them there in power - as usual you're anti-democracy.
The Saudis owned much of the land where the oil resided. Money put them in
power.
Everyone buys oil from the Saudis, dude.
Very true - so?
So, do you have a point?
Whether
or not we buy oil from them is irrelevant to their treatment of other
religions.
Muslims only come second to Buddists in their overall tolerance of other
religions.
Bhwhahahahahahahahaha!!!! Thanks. That's the funniest statement I've
heard all week. Yeah, Muslims are so tolerant that many of them are
calling for the murder of anyone who dares make light of Mohammed. Wow, so
tolerant, these Muslims. A single tear rolls down my cheek. NOT!
Christians and Jews fall off the bottom of the tolerance ladder, as you
so ably demonstrate.
Since I am an atheist (and hence neither a Christian nor a Jew), your
argument is dead on arrival.
They've done it since Mohammed killed his first Jew, boy.
Oh Wow! Do you drive a Chevy truck with a gun rack and place burning
crosses on black peoples front lawns?
No, I drive a toyota corolla, and have a planter with flowers in it in my
front yard. No doubt, you are still living off your girlfriend, the sheep
you found in Auckland.
If found
, Bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia is either
incinerated or
dumped. But in some cases in Saudi Arabia for possessing the Bible
you
even
may get killed.
Don't get too carried away - being black can get you killed in the
USa.
I'm sure you wish that were true.
Not at all, but I can read history books and read my newspaper.
Clue - don't believe everything you read. My best friends are African
American, boy.
In September 1993, Sadeq Mallallah (Arab Christian) , 23,
was beheaded in Qateef on a charge of apostasy for owning a Bible. In
Egypt
the Copts are the permanent object of attacks . Their Churches are
burnt
,
their priests are killed. In 1952 after hearing the Friday sermon in
a
mosque in the City of Suez, a Muslim mob armed with butchers' hooks
dragged
nine Christians into the St. Antonius Coptic Church and burned them
alive.
The murderers and the inflammatory sheikh were never brought to
justice.
You want a list of religious crimes carried out in the US circa
1952???
Well? We're waiting?
Why bother.
Oh, I see. You don't want to prove any of your claims. You just expect
people to believe your rants at face value. Can you spell K-O-O-K?
Yanks would know all about hypocrisy - for example your support of
Saddam Hussein, Saudi, Kuwait etc while claiming to support democracy.
As opposed to Russia's support for ole Saddam, or France's, or
Germany's,
or Urkaine's? Your point is?
You supported Saddam into power. You supported him to maintain him
there.
Right. We supported him with 640,000 tons of ***Russian*** military
armaments. I wonder what drug you are taking that could make you so
delusional.
Your fuckwitted propaganda about Russia, France and Germany relates to
their efforts to create a deal for post-sanction oil deals - you
fuckwitted yanks had to invade to get the oil for yourselves.
That would explain the Russian tanks, APCs, landmines, anti-aircraft
weapons, light military weaponry, French Mirages, and German gas masks that
Iraq bought BEFORE and after the first Gulf war, and hence BEFORE any
"post-sanction oil deals". NOT!
Umm, there are over 900,000,000 Muslims in the world today.
You've almost got that bit figured!
Even if only
0.1% were terrorists, or supporters of terrorists, that means that there
are 90,000,000 Muslim terrorists and terrorist supporters around the
world.
Seems like you understand 'basic maths'!
Seems like you failed 'basic facts'.
Exactly where do you get the 0.1% figure from?
Do you understand the words "even if"?
If there are 290 million yanks and 51% are terrorists then there are
147,900,000 yank Christian terrorists, more than your figure for Muslim
terrorists.
How many "Christian yanks" do you know who are strapping belt bombs to
their waists, or slamming explosives-laden cars into crowds of children? I
suspect that there aren't even 147,900,000 Christian yanks, much less
Christian terrorists. NEXT!
Even if only 0.01% were terrorists, that still means that there are
9,000,000 terrorists, and terrorist supporters. And you apparently
think
they are just peachy keen! Seems that YOU are the scum, pal.
if there are 9 million Muslim terrorists then that leaves over
899,991,000 peaceloving Muslims that _you_ are prepared to persecute
just because you are the scum of the earth.
Umm, I don't persecute anyone, Greg. There are no dungeons in my basement.
How many dungeons are there in Muslim countries?
George
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| User: "Greg Procter" |
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| Title: Re: Muslims Want Int'l Law on Respecting Religions .- |
07 Feb 2006 08:02:57 PM |
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George wrote:
"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:43E8FAFA.338CD968@ihug.co.nz...
George wrote:
"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:43E7FDF2.D1ECB13@ihug.co.nz...
staten wrote:
"Greg Procter" <Procter@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:43E6DC18.279649E6@ihug.co.nz...>
staten wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
news:%stFf.7434$_i2.2763@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
What a joke!
The most vicious Islamic attacks on Christians and Jews from
every
Muslim
country is now calling for respect for religions!
Not religions, but a religion. The only religion they want to
respect
is
Islam.
You've seen cartoons in Muslim newspapers showng Christ with bombs
in
his hat???
That would be simply blessing for all Christians if Muslims were
limit
themselves just to scribbling anti-Christ cartoons.
Generally they do!
If so, why is that better than a Dane drawing a cartoon of Mohammed?
Not doing something offensive is easily discernable from doing something
offensive.
If you can't figure out why not being offensive is better than being
offensive ...
Define "offensive". Oh, right. There's the rub. According to your logic,
if a Muslim draws a cartoon of Christ with bombs in his hat, it isn't
offensive. If a Dane does the same to Mohammed, it is offensive. So
explain to me why I should care whether or not any of this is offensive.
But their intolerance is
far worse than the most nasty cartoon may be drawn ever.
Worse than bombing villages?
Muslims do that too. I refer you to Darfur.
Yanks do that, which is why you qualify as terrorists.
Umm, Yanks bomb villages in Darfur? And you have proof of this, of course.
Care to show up your proof?
Muslims vandalize
and desecrate Synagogues and Jewish cemeteries .
There's been a fair bit of Christians vandalizing Jewish cemetaries
and
mosques as well!
How much is a "fair bit"? Cite one example, please.
Auckland.
Ok, there's one dot on your graph (assumming that there is evidence for
it). How is that "a fair bit"? Any more?
Muslims burn churches,
persecute and kill Christians.
When and where did that happen?
In Pakistan. In the Phillipines, In Indonesia, in Africa, etc., etc.,
etc.
Are you in denial, or what?
So you can find examples of Muslims burning churches and persecuting
Christians - go look at Iraq today - yank Christians persecuting
Muslims.
How are "Yank Christians" persecuting Muslims in Iraq? Be specific now.
Don't hold back.
Go take a look at Palestine today, Jews persecuting Muslims.
Yawn.
The crusades happened hundreds of years ago. Clue - this is the 21st
century, not the 13th century. Now, I know that radical muslims want to
roll the clock back that far, but if so, are they willing to risk
ANOTHER
crusade?
You've got a crusade in the 21st century - westerners/christians
occupying most of the ME or imposing non-democratic governments on
Muslims.
Really? Most of the ME? Let's do a tundown of ME countries and see if
this is true.
Lebanon - nope. No Yank army there.
Israel - Nope. No Yank army there.
Syria - Ditto
Iraq - Hmm. About 20 armies there (not including insurgents and foreign
terrorist groups, and of course, Iran)
Saudi Arabia - Minimal presence, invited by Saudis.
Iran - nope, no Yanks there
Shall I continue? DO you see a pattern yet?
The ME tends to be full of Western soldiers, oil men etc - not nearly
so
many ME men in Christian countries ripping off the West!
Umm, considering that the price of oil is about $67/gallon, one has to
ask
"who is ripping off whom"?
That's easily answered - yanks ripping off Muslims.
Wah, wah!!! You really should take your meds.
What is the true value of oil?
Right now, about $67/barrel (not gallon)
The true value is the cost of other sources of energy that might replace
oil.
Oh, you mean like coal, which WE have plenty of?
If you figure that one out you'll conclude the true value is about 5
times the current price.
Please show your math work, or you will be accused of copying from some
student next to you.
Muslims depict Jews and Christians as pigs
and monkeys.
I think you've been reading too much yank propaganda!
I think you've been sleep with your head in the sand for far too long.
There are plenty of Muslims around here - they fit in quiet well in our
society. They certainly don't depict Jews and Christians as pigs and
monkeys. Your suggesting such a thing demonstrates your prejudices.
Wow, one dot on a different graph. New Zealand is certainly NOT a bastion
of Islam, though I have no doubt some would like to make it so. The fact
is that Muslim cartoonists in the ME DO portray Jews and Christians as pigs
and monkeys. No doubt, that makes you happy. So how is it that you aren't
a bigot, given you predisposition for ranting on and on about Americans, as
if America is the cause of ALL the world's problems?
Muslims desecrate and destroy Bibles.
I think you're confusing yank soldiers desicrating and destroying the
Koran while torturing Muslims!
http://www.mideasttruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8405
http://www.leaderu.com/common/saudiarabia.html
http://xrdarabia.org/blog/archives/2005/04/29/christians-arrested/
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5967_1385180,001600060001.htm
I'll take your silence here as an admission that you now recognize that
Muslims desecrate and destroy bibles, and persecute people of other
religions.
As a matter of official
policy, the Saudi government do not allow Bibles into the country.
The US has propped up that corrupt feudal monarchy far too long.
That is your response?
Exactly. You put them there in power - as usual you're anti-democracy.
The Saudis owned much of the land where the oil resided. Money put them in
power.
Everyone buys oil from the Saudis, dude.
Very true - so?
So, do you have a point?
Whether
or not we buy oil from them is irrelevant to their treatment of other
religions.
Muslims only come second to Buddists in their overall tolerance of other
religions.
Bhwhahahahahahahahaha!!!! Thanks. That's the funniest statement I've
heard all week. Yeah, Muslims are so tolerant that many of them are
calling for the murder of anyone who dares make light of Mohammed. Wow, so
tolerant, these Muslims. A single tear rolls down my cheek. NOT!
Christians and Jews fall off the bottom of the tolerance ladder, as you
so ably demonstrate.
Since I am an atheist (and hence neither a Christian nor a Jew), your
argument is dead on arrival.
They've done it since Mohammed killed his first Jew, boy.
Oh Wow! Do you drive a Chevy truck with a gun rack and place burning
crosses on black peoples front lawns?
No, I drive a toyota corolla, and have a planter with flowers in it in my
front yard. No doubt, you are still living off your girlfriend, the sheep
you found in Auckland.
If found
, Bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia is either
incinerated or
dumped. But in some cases in Saudi Arabia for possessing the Bible
you
even
may get killed.
Don't get too carried away - being black can get you killed in the
USa.
I'm sure you wish that were true.
Not at all, but I can read history books and read my newspaper.
Clue - don't believe everything you read. My best friends are African
American, boy.
In September 1993, Sadeq Mallallah (Arab Christian) , 23,
was beheaded in Qateef on a charge of apostasy for owning a Bible. In
Egypt
the Copts are the permanent object of attacks . Their Churches are
burnt
,
their priests are killed. In 1952 after hearing the Friday sermon in
a
mosque in the City of Suez, a Muslim mob armed with butchers' hooks
dragged
nine Christians into the St. Antonius Coptic Church and burned them
alive.
The murderers and the inflammatory sheikh were never brought to
justice.
You want a list of religious crimes carried out in the US circa
1952???
Well? We're waiting?
Why bother.
Oh, I see. You don't want to prove any of your claims. You just expect
people to believe your rants at face value. Can you spell K-O-O-K?
Yanks would know all about hypocrisy - for example your support of
Saddam Hussein, Saudi, Kuwait etc while claiming to support democracy.
As opposed to Russia's support for ole Saddam, or France's, or
Germany's,
or Urkaine's? Your point is?
You supported Saddam into power. You supported him to maintain him
there.
Right. We supported him with 640,000 tons of ***Russian*** military
armaments. I wonder what drug you are taking that could make you so
delusional.
Your fuckwitted propaganda about Russia, France and Germany relates to
their efforts to create a deal for post-sanction oil deals - you
fuckwitted yanks had to invade to get the oil for yourselves.
That would explain the Russian tanks, APCs, landmines, anti-aircraft
weapons, light military weaponry, French Mirages, and German gas masks that
Iraq bought BEFORE and after the first Gulf war, and hence BEFORE any
"post-sanction oil deals". NOT!
Umm, there are over 900,000,000 Muslims in the world today.
You've almost got that bit figured!
Even if only
0.1% were terrorists, or supporters of terrorists, that means that there
are 90,000,000 Muslim terrorists and terrorist supporters around the
world.
Seems like you understand 'basic maths'!
Seems like you failed 'basic facts'.
Exactly where do you get the 0.1% figure from?
Do you understand the words "even if"?
If there are 290 million yanks and 51% are terrorists then there are
147,900,000 yank Christian terrorists, more than your figure for Muslim
terrorists.
How many "Christian yanks" do you know who are strapping belt bombs to
their waists, or slamming explosives-laden cars into crowds of children? I
suspect that there aren't even 147,900,000 Christian yanks, much less
Christian terrorists. NEXT!
Even if only 0.01% were terrorists, that still means that there are
9,000,000 terrorists, and terrorist supporters. And you apparently
think
they are just peachy keen! Seems that YOU are the scum, pal.
if there are 9 million Muslim terrorists then that leaves over
899,991,000 peaceloving Muslims that _you_ are prepared to persecute
just because you are the scum of the earth.
Umm, I don't persecute anyone, Greg. There are no dungeons in my basement.
How many dungeons are there in Muslim countries?
You keep your dungeons in Muslim countries?
Yes, we already knew that.
- You've got Gitmo Bay where you deny untried individuals/POWs any
rights whatsoever.
- You've admitted that you murder individuals in your US Bagdad prison.
- You fly suspects to third world nations to torture them.
Sorry George, but you yanks are barbarians - whether there are similar
activities in Muslim countries is irrelevant to your ongoing crimes
against humanity.
Regards,
Greg.P.
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What a joke!
The most vicious Islamic attacks on Christians and Jews from
every
Muslim
country is now calling for respect for religions!
Not religions, but a religion. The only religion they want to
respect
is
Islam.
You've seen cartoons in Muslim newspapers showng Christ with
bombs
in
his hat???
That would be simply blessing for all Christians if Muslims were
limit
themselves just to scribbling anti-Christ cartoons.
Generally they do!
If so, why is that better than a Dane drawing a cartoon of Mohammed?
Not doing something offensive is easily discernable from doing
something
offensive.
If you can't figure out why not being offensive is better than being
offensive ...
Define "offensive". Oh, right. There's the rub. According to your
logic,
if a Muslim draws a cartoon of Christ with bombs in his hat, it isn't
offensive. If a Dane does the same to Mohammed, it is offensive. So
explain to me why I should care whether or not any of this is offensive.
But their intolerance is
far worse than the most nasty cartoon may be drawn ever.
Worse than bombing villages?
Muslims do that too. I refer you to Darfur.
Yanks do that, which is why you qualify as terrorists.
Umm, Yanks bomb villages in Darfur? And you have proof of this, of
course.
Care to show up your proof?
Muslims vandalize
and desecrate Synagogues and Jewish cemeteries .
There's been a fair bit of Christians vandalizing Jewish cemetaries
and
mosques as well!
How much is a "fair bit"? Cite one example, please.
Auckland.
Ok, there's one dot on your graph (assumming that there is evidence for
it). How is that "a fair bit"? Any more?
Muslims burn churches,
persecute and kill Christians.
When and where did that happen?
In Pakistan. In the Phillipines, In Indonesia, in Africa, etc.,
etc.,
etc.
Are you in denial, or what?
So you can find examples of Muslims burning churches and persecuting
Christians - go look at Iraq today - yank Christians persecuting
Muslims.
How are "Yank Christians" persecuting Muslims in Iraq? Be specific now.
Don't hold back.
Go take a look at Palestine today, Jews persecuting Muslims.
Yawn.
The crusades happened hundreds of years ago. Clue - this is the 21st
century, not the 13th century. Now, I know that radical muslims want
to
roll the clock back that far, but if so, are they willing to risk
ANOTHER
crusade?
You've got a crusade in the 21st century - westerners/christians
occupying most of the ME or imposing non-democratic governments on
Muslims.
Really? Most of the ME? Let's do a tundown of ME countries and see if
this is true.
Lebanon - nope. No Yank army there.
Israel - Nope. No Yank army there.
Syria - Ditto
Iraq - Hmm. About 20 armies there (not including insurgents and foreign
terrorist groups, and of course, Iran)
Saudi Arabia - Minimal presence, invited by Saudis.
Iran - nope, no Yanks there
Shall I continue? DO you see a pattern yet?
The ME tends to be full of Western soldiers, oil men etc - not
nearly
so
many ME men in Christian countries ripping off the West!
Umm, considering that the price of oil is about $67/gallon, one has
to
ask
"who is ripping off whom"?
That's easily answered - yanks ripping off Muslims.
Wah, wah!!! You really should take your meds.
What is the true value of oil?
Right now, about $67/barrel (not gallon)
The true value is the cost of other sources of energy that might
replace
oil.
Oh, you mean like coal, which WE have plenty of?
If you figure that one out you'll conclude the true value is about 5
times the current price.
Please show your math work, or you will be accused of copying from some
student next to you.
Muslims depict Jews and Christians as pigs
and monkeys.
I think you've been reading too much yank propaganda!
I think you've been sleep with your head in the sand for far too
long.
There are plenty of Muslims around here - they fit in quiet well in
our
society. They certainly don't depict Jews and Christians as pigs and
monkeys. Your suggesting such a thing demonstrates your prejudices.
Wow, one dot on a different graph. New Zealand is certainly NOT a
bastion
of Islam, though I have no doubt some would like to make it so. The
fact
is that Muslim cartoonists in the ME DO portray Jews and Christians as
pigs
and monkeys. No doubt, that makes you happy. So how is it that you
aren't
a bigot, given you predisposition for ranting on and on about Americans,
as
if America is the cause of ALL the world's problems?
Muslims desecrate and destroy Bibles.
I think you're confusing yank soldiers desicrating and destroying
the
Koran while torturing Muslims!
http://www.mideasttruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8405
http://www.leaderu.com/common/saudiarabia.html
http://xrdarabia.org/blog/archives/2005/04/29/christians-arrested/
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5967_1385180,001600060001.htm
I'll take your silence here as an admission that you now recognize that
Muslims desecrate and destroy bibles, and persecute people of other
religions.
As a matter of official
policy, the Saudi government do not allow Bibles into the country.
The US has propped up that corrupt feudal monarchy far too long.
That is your response?
Exactly. You put them there in power - as usual you're anti-democracy.
The Saudis owned much of the land where the oil resided. Money put them
in
power.
Everyone buys oil from the Saudis, dude.
Very true - so?
So, do you have a point?
Whether
or not we buy oil from them is irrelevant to their treatment of other
religions.
Muslims only come second to Buddists in their overall tolerance of
other
religions.
Bhwhahahahahahahahaha!!!! Thanks. That's the funniest statement I've
heard all week. Yeah, Muslims are so tolerant that many of them are
calling for the murder of anyone who dares make light of Mohammed. Wow,
so
tolerant, these Muslims. A single tear rolls down my cheek. NOT!
Christians and Jews fall off the bottom of the tolerance ladder, as
you
so ably demonstrate.
Since I am an atheist (and hence neither a Christian nor a Jew), your
argument is dead on arrival.
They've done it since Mohammed killed his first Jew, boy.
Oh Wow! Do you drive a Chevy truck with a gun rack and place burning
crosses on black peoples front lawns?
No, I drive a toyota corolla, and have a planter with flowers in it in
my
front yard. No doubt, you are still living off your girlfriend, the
sheep
you found in Auckland.
If found
, Bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia is either
incinerated or
dumped. But in some cases in Saudi Arabia for possessing the Bible
you
even
may get killed.
Don't get too carried away - being black can get you killed in the
USa.
I'm sure you wish that were true.
Not at all, but I can read history books and read my newspaper.
Clue - don't believe everything you read. My best friends are African
American, boy.
In September 1993, Sadeq Mallallah (Arab Christian) , 23,
was beheaded in Qateef on a charge of apostasy for owning a Bible.
In
Egypt
the Copts are the permanent object of attacks . Their Churches are
burnt
,
their priests are killed. In 1952 after hearing the Friday sermon
in
a
mosque in the City of Suez, a Muslim mob armed with butchers'
hooks
dragged
nine Christians into the St. Antonius Coptic Church and burned
them
alive.
The murderers and the inflammatory sheikh were never brought to
justice.
You want a list of religious crimes carried out in the US circa
1952???
Well? We're waiting?
Why bother.
Oh, I see. You don't want to prove any of your claims. You just expect
people to believe your rants at face value. Can you spell K-O-O-K?
Yanks would know all about hypocrisy - for example your support of
Saddam Hussein, Saudi, Kuwait etc while claiming to support
democracy.
As opposed to Russia's support for ole Saddam, or France's, or
Germany's,
or Urkaine's? Your point is?
You supported Saddam into power. You supported him to maintain him
there.
Right. We supported him with 640,000 tons of ***Russian*** military
armaments. I wonder what drug you are taking that could make you so
delusional.
Your fuckwitted propaganda about Russia, France and Germany relates to
their efforts to create a deal for post-sanction oil deals - you
fuckwitted yanks had to invade to get the oil for yourselves.
That would explain the Russian tanks, APCs, landmines, anti-aircraft
weapons, light military weaponry, French Mirages, and German gas masks
that
Iraq bought BEFORE and after the first Gulf war, and hence BEFORE any
"post-sanction oil deals". NOT!
Umm, there are over 900,000,000 Muslims in the world today.
You've almost got that bit figured!
Even if only
0.1% were terrorists, or supporters of terrorists, that means that
there
are 90,000,000 Muslim terrorists and terrorist supporters around the
world.
Seems like you understand 'basic maths'!
Seems like you failed 'basic facts'.
Exactly where do you get the 0.1% figure from?
Do you understand the words "even if"?
If there are 290 million yanks and 51% are terrorists then there are
147,900,000 yank Christian terrorists, more than your figure for
Muslim
terrorists.
How many "Christian yanks" do you know who are strapping belt bombs to
their waists, or slamming explosives-laden cars into crowds of children?
I
suspect that there aren't even 147,900,000 Christian yanks, much less
Christian terrorists. NEXT!
Even if only 0.01% were terrorists, that still means that there are
9,000,000 terrorists, and terrorist supporters. And you apparently
think
they are just peachy keen! Seems that YOU are the scum, pal.
if there are 9 million Muslim terrorists then that leaves over
899,991,000 peaceloving Muslims that _you_ are prepared to persecute
just because you are the scum of the earth.
Umm, I don't persecute anyone, Greg. There are no dungeons in my
basement.
How many dungeons are there in Muslim countries?
You keep your dungeons in Muslim countries?
Yes, we already knew that.
- You've got Gitmo Bay where you deny untried individuals/POWs any
rights whatsoever.
Umm, that is a government installation, not a Christian one, Dr. Procter.
- You've admitted that you murder individuals in your US Bagdad prison.
I've admitted no such thing. Get your head out of your *****, Doc.
- You fly suspects to third world nations to torture them.
Umm, no evidence. NEXT.
Sorry George, but you yanks are barbarians -
As opposed to Muslims who shout "death to all Danes", and oddly "death to
America" in response to silly cartoons drawn by one Danish person and
published by private newspapers in Europe? Get a life, Doc.
whether there are similar
activities in Muslim countries is irrelevant to your ongoing crimes
against humanity.
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