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Politics > Politics-USA |
| User: |
"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer" |
| Date: |
19 May 2007 01:15:02 PM |
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Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
What the ... ?
Now it's "controversial" to require people to show valid identification
when VOTING -- but not for buying cold medicine?
This shows the INSANITY that prevails in America today. It also shows how
profoundly one of the pre-eminent rights and responsibilties of citizenship
-- the right to vote -- has been degraded. I guess the elites figure if
they can rig opinion polls and even throw elections (see the book
"Votescam" and lots of info online) it makes no difference who's allowed to
vote.
I'm reminded of the incident in Florida a couple of years ago in which a
newly arrived family of non-English-speaking Mexican peasant illegal aliens
-- they'd been in the USA but a few weeks -- raised hell after a public
school's employees asked them (in Spanish, no less) for proof of residence
a utilties or telephone bill, for example) when they tried to enroll their
illegal alien kids at the public school, just as schools and public
libraries regularly ask U.S. citizens for proof of residence before
enrolling their kids or issuing a library card to them. The impudent
aristocrats, er, illegal aliens shortly returned to the school with a local
"La Raza"-type group to protest and were given significant media time/space
to air their outrageous, baseless grievances, and the school's
administrators and clerical staff were forced to apologize to the illegals.
America is SICK. We need to CURE it -- and FAST.
--------------------------------------------------
EXCLUSIVE: Hundreds of Illegals Have Registered to Vote in Bexar County
By Jim Forsyth
Wednesday, May 16, 2007
excerpt:
... It's a hot issue in the Texas Legislature, where republicans are
pushing a bill that would require voters to show some form of
identification before voting.
"Considering that a photo ID is required to buy Sudafed, I can't understand
why anyone would argue that the same standard, if not a higher standard,
should apply to voting," Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst said. "Why
would any Texan oppose legislation that ensures only U.S. citizens vote in
elections?"
While not taking a position on the legislation, Callanan warned that any
law that required that people present ID at the polling place might
actually discourage people from voting.
"It will be cumbersome to have them presented at the polls," she said. "The
lines will be longer. It will require an additional check" ...
http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=119078&article=2138213
*************************************************************************
PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:
"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald
www.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
www.PredatoryAliens.com
www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org
www.DayLaborers.org
www.Alipac.us
www.ImmigrationWatchdog.com
www.AmericanPatrol.com
www.SaveOurState.org
www.EscapingJustice.com
www.MothersAgainstIllegalAliens.org
See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:
www.ImmigrationCounters.com
---------------------------------------------
"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")
-- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the USA
(Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
---------------------------------------------
¡§How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico¡¨
By John Dillin
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
Excerpt:
¡§General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
highlighting one paragraph that said: ¡¥The rise in illegal border-crossing
by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
Government ..."
¡§Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
office.
¡§America ¡¥was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
scale,¡¦ Mr. Brownell said. ¡¥When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.¡¦"
--------------------------------------------------
Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:
www.DeputyDavidMarch.com
www.KrisEggle.org
"Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in
criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on
a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
aliens."
-- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men."
-- Samuel Adams
"¡§All great truths begin as heresies.¡¨
-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens
.
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
19 May 2007 04:22:33 PM |
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Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1gh9n68g1kvdq$.qer9mf43h3g0$.dlg@40tude.net...
What the ... ?
Now it's "controversial" to require people to show valid identification
when VOTING -- but not for buying cold medicine?
This shows the INSANITY that prevails in America today. It also shows how
profoundly one of the pre-eminent rights and responsibilties of
citizenship
-- the right to vote -- has been degraded. I guess the elites figure if
they can rig opinion polls and even throw elections (see the book
"Votescam" and lots of info online) it makes no difference who's allowed
to
vote.
I'm reminded of the incident in Florida a couple of years ago in which a
newly arrived family of non-English-speaking Mexican peasant illegal
aliens
-- they'd been in the USA but a few weeks -- raised hell after a public
school's employees asked them (in Spanish, no less) for proof of residence
a utilties or telephone bill, for example) when they tried to enroll their
illegal alien kids at the public school, just as schools and public
libraries regularly ask U.S. citizens for proof of residence before
enrolling their kids or issuing a library card to them. The impudent
aristocrats, er, illegal aliens shortly returned to the school with a
local
"La Raza"-type group to protest and were given significant media
time/space
to air their outrageous, baseless grievances, and the school's
administrators and clerical staff were forced to apologize to the
illegals.
America is SICK. We need to CURE it -- and FAST.
--------------------------------------------------
EXCLUSIVE: Hundreds of Illegals Have Registered to Vote in Bexar County
By Jim Forsyth
Wednesday, May 16, 2007
excerpt:
... It's a hot issue in the Texas Legislature, where republicans are
pushing a bill that would require voters to show some form of
identification before voting.
"Considering that a photo ID is required to buy Sudafed, I can't
understand
why anyone would argue that the same standard, if not a higher standard,
should apply to voting," Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst said. "Why
would any Texan oppose legislation that ensures only U.S. citizens vote in
elections?"
While not taking a position on the legislation, Callanan warned that any
law that required that people present ID at the polling place might
actually discourage people from voting.
"It will be cumbersome to have them presented at the polls," she said.
"The
lines will be longer. It will require an additional check" ...
http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=119078&article=2138213
*************************************************************************
PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:
"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald
www.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
www.PredatoryAliens.com
www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org
www.DayLaborers.org
www.Alipac.us
www.ImmigrationWatchdog.com
www.AmericanPatrol.com
www.SaveOurState.org
www.EscapingJustice.com
www.MothersAgainstIllegalAliens.org
See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:
www.ImmigrationCounters.com
---------------------------------------------
"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")
-- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the
USA
(Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
---------------------------------------------
“How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico”
By John Dillin
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
Excerpt:
“General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
highlighting one paragraph that said: ‘The rise in illegal border-crossing
by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
Government ..."
“Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
office.
“America ‘was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
scale,’ Mr. Brownell said. ‘When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.’"
--------------------------------------------------
Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:
www.DeputyDavidMarch.com
www.KrisEggle.org
"Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in
criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens
on
a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
aliens."
-- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men."
-- Samuel Adams
"“All great truths begin as heresies.”
-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens
.
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| User: "strabo" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
19 May 2007 05:08:07 PM |
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Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
If you can't read and speak English proficiently, you can't vote.
How's that for law?
"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1gh9n68g1kvdq$.qer9mf43h3g0$.dlg@40tude.net...
What the ... ?
Now it's "controversial" to require people to show valid identification
when VOTING -- but not for buying cold medicine?
This shows the INSANITY that prevails in America today. It also shows how
profoundly one of the pre-eminent rights and responsibilties of
citizenship
-- the right to vote -- has been degraded. I guess the elites figure if
they can rig opinion polls and even throw elections (see the book
"Votescam" and lots of info online) it makes no difference who's allowed
to
vote.
I'm reminded of the incident in Florida a couple of years ago in which a
newly arrived family of non-English-speaking Mexican peasant illegal
aliens
-- they'd been in the USA but a few weeks -- raised hell after a public
school's employees asked them (in Spanish, no less) for proof of residence
a utilties or telephone bill, for example) when they tried to enroll their
illegal alien kids at the public school, just as schools and public
libraries regularly ask U.S. citizens for proof of residence before
enrolling their kids or issuing a library card to them. The impudent
aristocrats, er, illegal aliens shortly returned to the school with a
local
"La Raza"-type group to protest and were given significant media
time/space
to air their outrageous, baseless grievances, and the school's
administrators and clerical staff were forced to apologize to the
illegals.
America is SICK. We need to CURE it -- and FAST.
--------------------------------------------------
EXCLUSIVE: Hundreds of Illegals Have Registered to Vote in Bexar County
By Jim Forsyth
Wednesday, May 16, 2007
excerpt:
... It's a hot issue in the Texas Legislature, where republicans are
pushing a bill that would require voters to show some form of
identification before voting.
"Considering that a photo ID is required to buy Sudafed, I can't
understand
why anyone would argue that the same standard, if not a higher standard,
should apply to voting," Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst said. "Why
would any Texan oppose legislation that ensures only U.S. citizens vote in
elections?"
While not taking a position on the legislation, Callanan warned that any
law that required that people present ID at the polling place might
actually discourage people from voting.
"It will be cumbersome to have them presented at the polls," she said.
"The
lines will be longer. It will require an additional check" ...
http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=119078&article=2138213
*************************************************************************
PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:
"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald
www.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
www.PredatoryAliens.com
www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org
www.DayLaborers.org
www.Alipac.us
www.ImmigrationWatchdog.com
www.AmericanPatrol.com
www.SaveOurState.org
www.EscapingJustice.com
www.MothersAgainstIllegalAliens.org
See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:
www.ImmigrationCounters.com
---------------------------------------------
"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")
-- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the
USA
(Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
---------------------------------------------
“How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico”
By John Dillin
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
Excerpt:
“General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
highlighting one paragraph that said: ‘The rise in illegal border-crossing
by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
Government ..."
“Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
office.
“America ‘was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
scale,’ Mr. Brownell said. ‘When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.’"
--------------------------------------------------
Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:
www.DeputyDavidMarch.com
www.KrisEggle.org
"Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in
criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens
on
a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
aliens."
-- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men."
-- Samuel Adams
"“All great truths begin as heresies.”
-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
20 May 2007 12:53:18 AM |
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1179612580_10569@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
If you can't read and speak English proficiently, you can't vote.
*****! Obvious and blatanet *****!
If you're a citizen, you can vote LEGALLY. There is NO REQUIREMENT other
than that.
How's that for law?
It's not. Not even close.
"Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?"
Not only that, you don't know you don't know.
"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1gh9n68g1kvdq$.qer9mf43h3g0$.dlg@40tude.net...
What the ... ?
Now it's "controversial" to require people to show valid identification
when VOTING -- but not for buying cold medicine?
This shows the INSANITY that prevails in America today. It also shows
how
profoundly one of the pre-eminent rights and responsibilties of
citizenship
-- the right to vote -- has been degraded. I guess the elites figure if
they can rig opinion polls and even throw elections (see the book
"Votescam" and lots of info online) it makes no difference who's allowed
to
vote.
I'm reminded of the incident in Florida a couple of years ago in which
a
newly arrived family of non-English-speaking Mexican peasant illegal
aliens
-- they'd been in the USA but a few weeks -- raised hell after a public
school's employees asked them (in Spanish, no less) for proof of
residence
a utilties or telephone bill, for example) when they tried to enroll
their
illegal alien kids at the public school, just as schools and public
libraries regularly ask U.S. citizens for proof of residence before
enrolling their kids or issuing a library card to them. The impudent
aristocrats, er, illegal aliens shortly returned to the school with a
local
"La Raza"-type group to protest and were given significant media
time/space
to air their outrageous, baseless grievances, and the school's
administrators and clerical staff were forced to apologize to the
illegals.
America is SICK. We need to CURE it -- and FAST.
--------------------------------------------------
EXCLUSIVE: Hundreds of Illegals Have Registered to Vote in Bexar County
By Jim Forsyth
Wednesday, May 16, 2007
excerpt:
... It's a hot issue in the Texas Legislature, where republicans are
pushing a bill that would require voters to show some form of
identification before voting.
"Considering that a photo ID is required to buy Sudafed, I can't
understand
why anyone would argue that the same standard, if not a higher standard,
should apply to voting," Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst said. "Why
would any Texan oppose legislation that ensures only U.S. citizens vote
in
elections?"
While not taking a position on the legislation, Callanan warned that any
law that required that people present ID at the polling place might
actually discourage people from voting.
"It will be cumbersome to have them presented at the polls," she said.
"The
lines will be longer. It will require an additional check" ...
http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=119078&article=2138213
*************************************************************************
PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:
"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald
www.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
www.PredatoryAliens.com
www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org
www.DayLaborers.org
www.Alipac.us
www.ImmigrationWatchdog.com
www.AmericanPatrol.com
www.SaveOurState.org
www.EscapingJustice.com
www.MothersAgainstIllegalAliens.org
See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:
www.ImmigrationCounters.com
---------------------------------------------
"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")
-- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the
USA
(Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
---------------------------------------------
“How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico”
By John Dillin
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
Excerpt:
“General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
highlighting one paragraph that said: ‘The rise in illegal
border-crossing
by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
Government ..."
“Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
office.
“America ‘was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
scale,’ Mr. Brownell said. ‘When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.’"
--------------------------------------------------
Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:
www.DeputyDavidMarch.com
www.KrisEggle.org
"Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged
in
criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens
on
a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
aliens."
-- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men."
-- Samuel Adams
"“All great truths begin as heresies.”
-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
20 May 2007 01:17:10 PM |
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur before
showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they first ask for
my name. They check that against the voter registration list, to see if my
name appears on the list. At the same time, they ask for a photo ID.
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
20 May 2007 05:49:08 PM |
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465090a5$0$19507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:464fe23c$0$19409$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1179612580_10569@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur before
showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they first ask
for my name. They check that against the voter registration list, to see
if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they ask for a photo
ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
21 May 2007 01:50:26 PM |
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650d050$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465090a5$0$19507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1179612580_10569@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur before
showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they first ask
for my name. They check that against the voter registration list, to see
if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they ask for a photo
ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
22 May 2007 12:47:26 AM |
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur before
showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they first ask
for my name. They check that against the voter registration list, to
see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they ask for a
photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
22 May 2007 11:40:12 AM |
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On May 22, 1:47 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur before
showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they first ask
for my name. They check that against the voter registration list, to
see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they ask for a
photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
Voter registration rules have also been changed by HAVA. Every person
who registers or re-registers to vote after January 1, 2006 is now
required to include on their voter registration affidavit their
California driver's license number, if they have a current and valid
driver's license, or their California identification card number, if
they have one, or, if they have neither a driver's license nor a
California ID, the last four digits of their Social Security number,
if they have a Social Security card. If a person does not possess a
driver's license, state-issued identification card or a Social
Security card, he or she will still become a registered voter. But, if
they do have this information, they must provide it. Any person voting
for the first time who registers by mail who does not provide this
information will be asked to show a form of identification when he or
she goes to the polls, or to provide a copy of that identification
with his or her absentee ballot. There are 30 forms of identification
that can be used for this purpose under HAVA, including a government
issued check or a utility bill that includes the person's name and
address.
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
22 May 2007 10:36:37 AM |
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Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650d050$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur before
showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they first ask
for my name. They check that against the voter registration list, to
see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they ask for a
photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
You approve of illegal aliens voting in our elections?
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
23 May 2007 12:26:37 PM |
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Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465090a5$0$19507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur before
showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they first ask
for my name. They check that against the voter registration list, to
see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they ask for a
photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
You approve of illegal aliens voting in our elections?
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
24 May 2007 01:37:45 AM |
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"Roger" <rogerbemix@gaganews.com> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650d050$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465090a5$0$19507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur
before showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they
first ask for my name. They check that against the voter registration
list, to see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they
ask for a photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to
vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
You approve of illegal aliens voting in our elections?
No, but there's no evidence that they are.
BTW, fear and paranoia and racism aren't evidence.
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
24 May 2007 02:33:26 PM |
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Roger wrote:
"Roger" <rogerbemix@gaganews.com> wrote in message
news:46547976$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650d050$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465090a5$0$19507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:464fe23c$0$19409$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1179612580_10569@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur
before showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they
first ask for my name. They check that against the voter registration
list, to see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they
ask for a photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to
vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
You approve of illegal aliens voting in our elections?
No, but there's no evidence that they are.
BTW, fear and paranoia and racism aren't evidence.
Findings of a detail look at 2,460 of the 14,000 recently
registered Democrat voters in Kern County, California that are
registered to vote in the 30th Assembly District:
• 69 people actually admitted voting at least twice. These are
just the ones who admitted it.
• 93 people admitted that they voted but are not citizens of
the United States. They were told that if they registered and
voted, it would help them get their citizenship.
• 272 people actually admitted that they do not live in the
30th Assembly District but that they voted in the 30th
Assembly District
We found people who changed the spelling of their name
slightly so that they could register and vote a second time.
Someone named William also registered as Bill. We found people
with the same name registered at the same address whose
birthdays were exactly one year or one day apart. By changing
their birth date, one person became two people with two votes.
The biggest problem that we found was the number of people who
showed up at the polls and voted using someone else’s name. We
have testimony from people who report that they went to vote
and found that their name had already been used. People
impersonated the legitimate voter. How did they do that? A lot
of people are registered but don’t vote. Hanging on the wall
in every polling place in the State of California is a list of
the people that are eligible to vote at that polling place. By
state law, every two hours, an election worker up dates the
list with the names of the people who have voted. The cheaters
send in someone with a cell phone to call back to the
headquarters with the names of the people who have not voted.
People claiming to be those people miraculously show up and vote.
We found 905 fraudulent ballots out of 2,460 voters.
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
25 May 2007 12:58:33 PM |
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Roger wrote:
"Roger" <rogerbemix@gaganews.com> wrote in message
news:4655e8a3$0$4888$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Roger wrote:
"Roger" <rogerbemix@gaganews.com> wrote in message
news:46547976$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650d050$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465090a5$0$19507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:464fe23c$0$19409$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1179612580_10569@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the
polling booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to
occur before showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my
vote, they first ask for my name. They check that against the voter
registration list, to see if my name appears on the list. At the
same time, they ask for a photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to
vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
You approve of illegal aliens voting in our elections?
No, but there's no evidence that they are.
BTW, fear and paranoia and racism aren't evidence.
Findings of a detail look at 2,460 of the 14,000 recently registered
Democrat voters in Kern County, California that are registered to vote in
the 30th Assembly District:
Why did you leave this part out?
Dean Gardner is a businessman who lost his bid for a seat in the California
Assembly by a mere 187 votes on November 5, 2002. This statement was made as
a news release in Bakersfield, California on June 12, 2003. The Dean Gardner
Volunteers found 905 fraudulent votes in their investigation which centered
on the Kern County portion of the 30th California Assembly District.
Illustrates a need for curbing voter fraud. Thanks for
pointing it out.
• 69 people actually admitted voting at least twice. These are just the
ones who admitted it.
• 93 people admitted that they voted but are not citizens of the United
States. They were told that if they registered and voted, it would help
them get their citizenship.
• 272 people actually admitted that they do not live in the 30th Assembly
District but that they voted in the 30th Assembly District
We found people who changed the spelling of their name slightly so that
they could register and vote a second time. Someone named William also
registered as Bill. We found people with the same name registered at the
same address whose birthdays were exactly one year or one day apart. By
changing their birth date, one person became two people with two votes.
The biggest problem that we found was the number of people who showed up
at the polls and voted using someone else’s name. We have testimony from
people who report that they went to vote and found that their name had
already been used. People impersonated the legitimate voter. How did they
do that? A lot of people are registered but don’t vote. Hanging on the
wall in every polling place in the State of California is a list of the
people that are eligible to vote at that polling place. By state law,
every two hours, an election worker up dates the list with the names of
the people who have voted. The cheaters send in someone with a cell phone
to call back to the headquarters with the names of the people who have not
voted. People claiming to be those people miraculously show up and vote.
We found 905 fraudulent ballots out of 2,460 voters.
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
25 May 2007 04:10:11 PM |
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"Roger" <rogerbemix@gaganews.com> wrote in message
news:465723cb$0$15127$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Roger wrote:
"Roger" <rogerbemix@gaganews.com> wrote in message
news:4655e8a3$0$4888$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Roger wrote:
"Roger" <rogerbemix@gaganews.com> wrote in message
news:46547976$0$8965$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650d050$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465090a5$0$19507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:464fe23c$0$19409$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1179612580_10569@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the
polling booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has
to occur before showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my
vote, they first ask for my name. They check that against the
voter registration list, to see if my name appears on the list.
At the same time, they ask for a photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID
to vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
You approve of illegal aliens voting in our elections?
No, but there's no evidence that they are.
BTW, fear and paranoia and racism aren't evidence.
Findings of a detail look at 2,460 of the 14,000 recently registered
Democrat voters in Kern County, California that are registered to vote
in the 30th Assembly District:
Why did you leave this part out?
Dean Gardner is a businessman who lost his bid for a seat in the
California Assembly by a mere 187 votes on November 5, 2002. This
statement was made as a news release in Bakersfield, California on June
12, 2003. The Dean Gardner Volunteers found 905 fraudulent votes in their
investigation which centered on the Kern County portion of the 30th
California Assembly District.
Illustrates a need for curbing voter fraud. Thanks for pointing it out.
You missed his bias. Or did you just ignore it?
• 69 people actually admitted voting at least twice. These are just the
ones who admitted it.
• 93 people admitted that they voted but are not citizens of the United
States. They were told that if they registered and voted, it would help
them get their citizenship.
• 272 people actually admitted that they do not live in the 30th
Assembly District but that they voted in the 30th Assembly District
We found people who changed the spelling of their name slightly so that
they could register and vote a second time. Someone named William also
registered as Bill. We found people with the same name registered at the
same address whose birthdays were exactly one year or one day apart. By
changing their birth date, one person became two people with two votes.
The biggest problem that we found was the number of people who showed up
at the polls and voted using someone else’s name. We have testimony from
people who report that they went to vote and found that their name had
already been used. People impersonated the legitimate voter. How did
they do that? A lot of people are registered but don’t vote. Hanging on
the wall in every polling place in the State of California is a list of
the people that are eligible to vote at that polling place. By state
law, every two hours, an election worker up dates the list with the
names of the people who have voted. The cheaters send in someone with a
cell phone to call back to the headquarters with the names of the people
who have not voted. People claiming to be those people miraculously show
up and vote.
We found 905 fraudulent ballots out of 2,460 voters.
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| User: "Thumper" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
23 May 2007 03:46:25 PM |
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:26:37 -0500, Roger <rogerbemix@gaganews.com>
wrote:
Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650d050$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465090a5$0$19507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:464fe23c$0$19409$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1179612580_10569@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur before
showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they first ask
for my name. They check that against the voter registration list, to
see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they ask for a
photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
You approve of illegal aliens voting in our elections?
What makes you think they are voting?
Thumper
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
24 May 2007 01:38:06 AM |
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"Thumper" <jaylsmith@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:00a9539avce8llu4ssfbod31flrpl2i9ur@4ax.com...
On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:26:37 -0500, Roger <rogerbemix@gaganews.com>
wrote:
Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650d050$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465090a5$0$19507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:464fe23c$0$19409$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1179612580_10569@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the
polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur
before
showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they first
ask
for my name. They check that against the voter registration list, to
see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they ask for a
photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to
vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
You approve of illegal aliens voting in our elections?
What makes you think they are voting?
Thumper
It's hard enough getting citizens to vote!
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| User: "Thumper" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
24 May 2007 01:43:47 PM |
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 23:38:06 -0700, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Thumper" <jaylsmith@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:00a9539avce8llu4ssfbod31flrpl2i9ur@4ax.com...
On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:26:37 -0500, Roger <rogerbemix@gaganews.com>
wrote:
Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650d050$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the
polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur
before
showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they first
ask
for my name. They check that against the voter registration list, to
see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they ask for a
photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to
vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
You approve of illegal aliens voting in our elections?
What makes you think they are voting?
Thumper
It's hard enough getting citizens to vote!
I also find it strange that people want to keep ex-convicts from
voting. One would think that ex-cons were running down to register in
huge numbers.
Actually any ex-con who wants to vote is making a very positive
statement about participating in society.
Thumper
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22 May 2007 09:26:56 PM |
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Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur before
showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they first ask
for my name. They check that against the voter registration list, to
see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they ask for a
photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
A poll tax is/was not the same as verifying identification.
How can an election be considered valid when anyone can vote?
I think there's ground for a class action lawsuit.
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22 May 2007 11:36:17 PM |
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur
before showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they
first ask for my name. They check that against the voter registration
list, to see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they
ask for a photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to
vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
A poll tax is/was not the same as verifying identification.
Actually, they are.
From
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/27/AR2005102702171.html
In a case that some have called a showdown over voting rights, a U.S.
appeals court yesterday upheld an injunction barring the state of Georgia
from enforcing a law requiring citizens to get government-issued photo
identification in order to vote.
The ruling allows thousands of Georgians who do not have government-issued
identification, such as driver's licenses and passports, to vote in the Nov.
8 municipal elections without obtaining a special digital identification
card, which costs $20 for five years. In prior elections, Georgians could
use any one of 17 types of identification that show the person's name and
address, including a driver's license, utility bill, bank statement or a
paycheck, to gain access to a voting booth.
Last week, when issuing the injunction, U.S. District Judge Harold L. Murphy
likened the law to a Jim Crow-era poll tax that required residents, most of
them black, to pay back taxes before voting. He said the law appeared to
violate the Constitution for that reason. In the 2004 election, about
150,000 Georgians voted without producing government-issued identification.
How can an election be considered valid when anyone can vote?
Someone better figure out something that isn't unconstitutional.
I think there's ground for a class action lawsuit.
There has been. They lost.
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| User: "Thumper" |
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23 May 2007 11:00:15 AM |
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 21:36:17 -0700, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650d050$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465090a5$0$19507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur
before showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they
first ask for my name. They check that against the voter registration
list, to see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they
ask for a photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to
vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
A poll tax is/was not the same as verifying identification.
Actually, they are.
From
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/27/AR2005102702171.html
In a case that some have called a showdown over voting rights, a U.S.
appeals court yesterday upheld an injunction barring the state of Georgia
from enforcing a law requiring citizens to get government-issued photo
identification in order to vote.
The ruling allows thousands of Georgians who do not have government-issued
identification, such as driver's licenses and passports, to vote in the Nov.
8 municipal elections without obtaining a special digital identification
card, which costs $20 for five years. In prior elections, Georgians could
use any one of 17 types of identification that show the person's name and
address, including a driver's license, utility bill, bank statement or a
paycheck, to gain access to a voting booth.
Last week, when issuing the injunction, U.S. District Judge Harold L. Murphy
likened the law to a Jim Crow-era poll tax that required residents, most of
them black, to pay back taxes before voting. He said the law appeared to
violate the Constitution for that reason. In the 2004 election, about
150,000 Georgians voted without producing government-issued identification.
How can an election be considered valid when anyone can vote?
Someone better figure out something that isn't unconstitutional.
I think there's ground for a class action lawsuit.
There has been. They lost.
What a phoney. This is a non issue. There is no evidence that voter
fraud of any meaningful size is occurring because of people flocking
to the ballot boxes that don't have the right to vote.
Thumper
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24 May 2007 01:34:45 AM |
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"Thumper" <jaylsmith@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 21:36:17 -0700, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4651e9f2$0$9945$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650d050$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465090a5$0$19507$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:464fe23c$0$19409$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1179612580_10569@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
Roger wrote:
Don't have a good knowledge of the LAW, do you?
If you are an alien, a foreign national, you can't vote.
Even with fake papers?
I have to wonder if you ever voted.... When we show up at the
polling
booth, we first have to be registered to vote, which has to occur
before showing up to vote. So, when I show up to cast my vote, they
first ask for my name. They check that against the voter
registration
list, to see if my name appears on the list. At the same time, they
ask for a photo ID.
I've been voting for over 25 years.
I have NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER been asked for ID.
Not once. NEVER.
Nor was it needed to register. NEVER.
What state is that?
California.
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to
vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
A poll tax is/was not the same as verifying identification.
Actually, they are.
From
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/27/AR2005102702171.html
In a case that some have called a showdown over voting rights, a U.S.
appeals court yesterday upheld an injunction barring the state of Georgia
from enforcing a law requiring citizens to get government-issued photo
identification in order to vote.
The ruling allows thousands of Georgians who do not have government-issued
identification, such as driver's licenses and passports, to vote in the
Nov.
8 municipal elections without obtaining a special digital identification
card, which costs $20 for five years. In prior elections, Georgians could
use any one of 17 types of identification that show the person's name and
address, including a driver's license, utility bill, bank statement or a
paycheck, to gain access to a voting booth.
Last week, when issuing the injunction, U.S. District Judge Harold L.
Murphy
likened the law to a Jim Crow-era poll tax that required residents, most
of
them black, to pay back taxes before voting. He said the law appeared to
violate the Constitution for that reason. In the 2004 election, about
150,000 Georgians voted without producing government-issued
identification.
How can an election be considered valid when anyone can vote?
Someone better figure out something that isn't unconstitutional.
I think there's ground for a class action lawsuit.
There has been. They lost.
What a phoney. This is a non issue. There is no evidence that voter
fraud of any meaningful size is occurring because of people flocking
to the ballot boxes that don't have the right to vote.
Thumper
Why are you telling me that?
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24 May 2007 01:41:19 PM |
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 23:34:45 -0700, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
There has been. They lost.
What a phoney. This is a non issue. There is no evidence that voter
fraud of any meaningful size is occurring because of people flocking
to the ballot boxes that don't have the right to vote.
Thumper
Why are you telling me that?
Sorry. The post needs trimming.
Thumper
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| User: "strabo" |
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| Title: Re: Must show ID to buy cold medicine but note to VOTE? |
23 May 2007 09:29:30 PM |
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Roger wrote:
"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1179887309_245@sp1iad.superfeed.net...
<snipped>
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to
vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
A poll tax is/was not the same as verifying identification.
Actually, they are.
From
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/27/AR2005102702171.html
In a case that some have called a showdown over voting rights, a U.S.
appeals court yesterday upheld an injunction barring the state of Georgia
from enforcing a law requiring citizens to get government-issued photo
identification in order to vote.
The ruling allows thousands of Georgians who do not have government-issued
identification, such as driver's licenses and passports, to vote in the Nov.
8 municipal elections without obtaining a special digital identification
card, which costs $20 for five years. In prior elections, Georgians could
use any one of 17 types of identification that show the person's name and
address, including a driver's license, utility bill, bank statement or a
paycheck, to gain access to a voting booth.
Last week, when issuing the injunction, U.S. District Judge Harold L. Murphy
likened the law to a Jim Crow-era poll tax that required residents, most of
them black, to pay back taxes before voting. He said the law appeared to
violate the Constitution for that reason. In the 2004 election, about
150,000 Georgians voted without producing government-issued identification.
How can an election be considered valid when anyone can vote?
Someone better figure out something that isn't unconstitutional.
Requiring identification is not unconstitutional.
The judge in this case objects because Blacks would have to
pay back taxes to be registered. He likens that to a poll tax.
The comparison is wrong. The judgment is wrong.
Since some of the identification allowed borders on the criminally
negligent, there's work to do.
I think there's ground for a class action lawsuit.
There has been. They lost.
Its just begun.
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24 May 2007 04:30:46 AM |
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"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1179887309_245@sp1iad.superfeed.net...
<snipped>
Probably the state with the MOST illegal aliens. Doesn't require ID to
vote.
You know why? It would be ILLEGAL. Remember poll taxes? Same thing.
A poll tax is/was not the same as verifying identification.
Actually, they are.
From
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/27/AR2005102702171.html
In a case that some have called a showdown over voting rights, a U.S.
appeals court yesterday upheld an injunction barring the state of Georgia
from enforcing a law requiring citizens to get government-issued photo
identification in order to vote.
The ruling allows thousands of Georgians who do not have
government-issued identification, such as driver's licenses and
passports, to vote in the Nov. 8 municipal elections without obtaining a
special digital identification card, which costs $20 for five years. In
prior elections, Georgians could use any one of 17 types of
identification that show the person's name and address, including a
driver's license, utility bill, bank statement or a paycheck, to gain
access to a voting booth.
Last week, when issuing the injunction, U.S. District Judge Harold L.
Murphy likened the law to a Jim Crow-era poll tax that required
residents, most of them black, to pay back taxes before voting. He said
the law appeared to violate the Constitution for that reason. In the 2004
election, about 150,000 Georgians voted without producing
government-issued identification.
How can an election be considered valid when anyone can vote?
Someone better figure out something that isn't unconstitutional.
Requiring identification is not unconstitutional.
The judge in this case objects because Blacks would have to
pay back taxes to be registered. He likens that to a poll tax.
The comparison is wrong. The judgment is wrong.
Please learn how to read before you respond. let me show you the passages:
The ruling allows thousands of Georgians who do not have government-issued
identification, such as driver's licenses and passports, to vote in the
Nov.
8 municipal elections without obtaining a special digital identification
card, which costs $20 for five years. In prior elections, Georgians could
use any one of 17 types of identification that show the person's name and
address, including a driver's license, utility bill, bank statement or a
paycheck, to gain access to a voting booth.
The above is what the law that was struck down was it required that people
go out and get a spefic card costing 20 dollars in order to be allowed to
voted rather than using the other forms of ID they had always used. It is
this requirement that the Judge refered to in the second passage that
follows as like a Poll Tax. This does not mean voters would have to pay back
taxes as you stated.
Last week, when issuing the injunction, U.S. District Judge Harold L.
Murphy
likened the law to a Jim Crow-era poll tax that required residents, most of
them black, to pay back taxes before voting. He said the law appeared to
violate the Constitution for that reason. In the 2004 election, about
150,000 Georgians voted without producing government-issued identification.
The reason it was struck down is it was a burden on the poor and minorities
as it was intended to be as they tend to not vote for the Republican
canidtae unless they are white.
Since some of the identification allowed borders on the criminally
negligent, there's work to do.
I think there's ground for a class action lawsuit.
There has been. They lost.
Its just begun.
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