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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Harry Hope"
Date: 26 Jan 2006 08:17:58 AM
Object: My goodness, how the Bushies lie.
From The Washington Post, 1/26/06:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/25/AR2006012502270.html
White House Dismissed '02 Surveillance Proposal
By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, January 26, 2006; Page A04
The Bush administration rejected a 2002 Senate proposal that would
have made it easier for FBI agents to obtain surveillance warrants in
terrorism cases, concluding that the system was working well and that
it would likely be unconstitutional to lower the legal standard.
The proposed legislation by Sen. Mike DeWine (R-Ohio) would have
allowed the FBI to obtain surveillance warrants for non-U.S. citizens
if they had a "reasonable suspicion" they were connected to terrorism
-- a lower standard than the "probable cause" requirement in the
statute that governs the warrants.

The administration has contended that it launched a secret program of
warrantless domestic eavesdropping by the National Security Agency in
part because of the time it takes to obtain such secret warrants from
federal judges under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).
The wiretapping program, ordered by President Bush in 2001, is used
when intelligence agents have a "reasonable basis to believe" that a
target is tied to al Qaeda or related groups, according to recent
statements by administration officials. It can be used on U.S.
citizens as well as foreign nationals, without court oversight.
Democrats and national security law experts who oppose the NSA program
say the Justice Department's opposition to the DeWine legislation
seriously undermines arguments by Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales
and others, who have said the NSA spying is constitutional and that
surveillance warrants are often too cumbersome to obtain.
"It's entirely inconsistent with their current position," said Philip
B. Heymann, a deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration
who teaches law at Harvard University.
"The only reason to do what they've been doing is because they wanted
a lower standard than 'probable cause.' A member of Congress offered
that to them, but they turned it down."
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A Bushie lie a day. It's become predictable.
Harry
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User: ""

Title: Re: My goodness, how the Bushies lie. 26 Jan 2006 06:56:30 PM
Frankly Harry I think AWOL Georgies entire life has been One Long LIE!
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User: "d2e2"

Title: Re: My goodness, how the Bushies lie. 26 Jan 2006 07:04:27 PM
Harry Hope wrote:


From The Washington Post, 1/26/06:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/25/AR2006012502270.html


White House Dismissed '02 Surveillance Proposal

By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer

Thursday, January 26, 2006; Page A04


The Bush administration rejected a 2002 Senate proposal that would
have made it easier for FBI agents to obtain surveillance warrants in
terrorism cases, concluding that the system was working well and that
it would likely be unconstitutional to lower the legal standard.

The proposed legislation by Sen. Mike DeWine (R-Ohio) would have
allowed the FBI to obtain surveillance warrants for non-U.S. citizens
if they had a "reasonable suspicion" they were connected to terrorism
-- a lower standard than the "probable cause" requirement in the
statute that governs the warrants.

The administration has contended that it launched a secret program of
warrantless domestic eavesdropping by the National Security Agency in
part because of the time it takes to obtain such secret warrants from
federal judges under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

The wiretapping program, ordered by President Bush in 2001, is used
when intelligence agents have a "reasonable basis to believe" that a
target is tied to al Qaeda or related groups, according to recent
statements by administration officials. It can be used on U.S.
citizens as well as foreign nationals, without court oversight.

Democrats and national security law experts who oppose the NSA program
say the Justice Department's opposition to the DeWine legislation
seriously undermines arguments by Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales
and others, who have said the NSA spying is constitutional and that
surveillance warrants are often too cumbersome to obtain.

"It's entirely inconsistent with their current position," said Philip
B. Heymann, a deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration
who teaches law at Harvard University.

"The only reason to do what they've been doing is because they wanted
a lower standard than 'probable cause.' A member of Congress offered
that to them, but they turned it down."

____________________________________________________________

A Bushie lie a day. It's become predictable.

Harry

If you listen real close to the people in the White House and Congress,
those responsible for the devastation being visited upon the old, sick and
disabled, you will hear a lot about some domestic spying that may or may
not have actually occurred.
You will not hear anything about a medicare drug benefit that does not exist
or the 22 million dollar money laundering deal just approved by a
Republican controlled Congress.
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