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"Diversity Isnt A Codeword For Anti-White" |
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01 Nov 2003 02:03:22 PM |
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My parents were immigrants |
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now waiting for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes, my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh" or
something like that.
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| User: "Robin Carmody" |
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| Title: Re: My parents were immigrants |
01 Nov 2003 02:35:29 PM |
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"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
<allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message
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Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now waiting for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes, my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh" or
something like that.
Well, everyone's ancestors were immigrants originally. The important thing
is not where you can trace your ancestry, but how you regard other people.
RC
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| User: "The Enlightenment" |
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| Title: Re: My parents were immigrants |
01 Nov 2003 05:49:37 PM |
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"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo15e0$ctf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
<allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message
news:ekUob.3113$8E5.20448283@news-text.cableinet.net...
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now
waiting for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes,
my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh"
or
something like that.
Well, everyone's ancestors were immigrants originally. The
important thing
is not where you can trace your ancestry, but how you regard other
people.
Europeans evolved in Europe. There is very little difference between a
Celt, Germanic and a Balto-Slave since we share the same ecology and
continent together. The best evidence is that paleolithithc European
humans were isolated (Circumscribed) by the ice age for over 50,000
years from other races and that we thus have a unique racial ancestry.
A small amount of genes came in with Neolithic migraines from the
near middle east but not more than 20%.
Evidence for this is the ease with which an European can be told
apart from people of other racial ancestry within the blink of an eye.
"Howard" is substantially from the middle east despite his anglicized
name. Ashkenazi are typically 70% Semitic in origin.
One wouldn't expect him to care very much that the European Genotype
is being extinguished not only from our ancestral homelands in Europe
where our unique culture and physical, temperamental and racial
characteristics evolved but extinguished also from the planet itself.
Not only does he not care, that much, he will probably promote it or
worse like you "celebrate" it. It suits his "Diaspora race" to
dilute "ours". Marxist-Internationalism with its vilifying cult
of victimology and Capitalist-Globalism with its commodisation of
human values have both been twisted to catalyse racial anhilation and
sleep walk us into this lemming like extinction. (does that term
shock you)
I would like to see him provide proof that he will promote and protect
our race in our ancestral homelands. Kurdification of White people is
where we are heading. It is happening because the numbers show it.
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| User: "Robin Carmody" |
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| Title: Re: My parents were immigrants |
01 Nov 2003 06:16:10 PM |
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"The Enlightenment" <bernxard@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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One wouldn't expect him to care very much that the European Genotype
is being extinguished not only from our ancestral homelands in Europe
where our unique culture and physical, temperamental and racial
characteristics evolved but extinguished also from the planet itself.
If I and my contemporaries can live long, happy and healthy lives I really
don't care about "Genotypes".
RC
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| User: "francispoon" |
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| Title: Re: My parents were immigrants |
03 Nov 2003 01:08:02 AM |
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"The Enlightenment" <bernxard@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:<lEXob.174309$bo1.44589@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo15e0$ctf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
<allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message
news:ekUob.3113$8E5.20448283@news-text.cableinet.net...
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now
waiting for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes,
my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh"
or
something like that.
Well, everyone's ancestors were immigrants originally. The
important thing
is not where you can trace your ancestry, but how you regard other
people.
Europeans evolved in Europe. There is very little difference between a
Celt, Germanic and a Balto-Slave since we share the same ecology and
continent together. The best evidence is that paleolithithc European
humans were isolated (Circumscribed) by the ice age for over 50,000
years from other races and that we thus have a unique racial ancestry.
A small amount of genes came in with Neolithic migraines from the
near middle east but not more than 20%.
Evidence for this is the ease with which an European can be told
apart from people of other racial ancestry within the blink of an eye.
"Howard" is substantially from the middle east despite his anglicized
name. Ashkenazi are typically 70% Semitic in origin.
One wouldn't expect him to care very much that the European Genotype
is being extinguished not only from our ancestral homelands in Europe
where our unique culture and physical, temperamental and racial
characteristics evolved but extinguished also from the planet itself.
Not only does he not care, that much, he will probably promote it or
worse like you "celebrate" it. It suits his "Diaspora race" to
dilute "ours". Marxist-Internationalism with its vilifying cult
of victimology and Capitalist-Globalism with its commodisation of
human values have both been twisted to catalyse racial anhilation and
sleep walk us into this lemming like extinction. (does that term
shock you)
I would like to see him provide proof that he will promote and protect
our race in our ancestral homelands. Kurdification of White people is
where we are heading. It is happening because the numbers show it.
It is happening because the white females, 'liberated' as they think
they are, are destroying white males and white families at a rate that
is faster than the birth rate of the white population. You have been
refusing to come to grip with the economic cause of the problem but
instead searching for answers in the ever-ending abstract exercise of
ideology, values, cultures,customers, beliefs and the other kinds of
unquantitative *****.
FP
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| User: "Nicolas Benicoeur" |
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01 Nov 2003 06:26:25 PM |
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"Howard" is substantially from the middle east despite his anglicized
name. Ashkenazi are typically 70% Semitic in origin.
I thought that the Ashkenazi were Turkic in origin and thus unconnected to
the descendents of the Children of Israel (Semites).
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| User: "Harry The Horse" |
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| Title: Re: My parents were immigrants |
02 Nov 2003 12:21:37 PM |
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The Enlightenment wrote:
Europeans evolved in Europe. There is very little difference between a
Celt, Germanic and a Balto-Slave since we share the same ecology and
continent together. The best evidence is that paleolithithc European
humans were isolated (Circumscribed) by the ice age for over 50,000
years from other races and that we thus have a unique racial ancestry.
A small amount of genes came in with Neolithic migraines from the
near middle east but not more than 20%.
Evidence for this is the ease with which an European can be told
apart from people of other racial ancestry within the blink of an eye.
"Howard" is substantially from the middle east despite his anglicized
name. Ashkenazi are typically 70% Semitic in origin.
One wouldn't expect him to care very much that the European Genotype
is being extinguished not only from our ancestral homelands in Europe
where our unique culture and physical, temperamental and racial
characteristics evolved but extinguished also from the planet itself.
Not only does he not care, that much, he will probably promote it or
worse like you "celebrate" it. It suits his "Diaspora race" to
dilute "ours". Marxist-Internationalism with its vilifying cult
of victimology and Capitalist-Globalism with its commodisation of
human values have both been twisted to catalyse racial anhilation and
sleep walk us into this lemming like extinction. (does that term
shock you)
I would like to see him provide proof that he will promote and protect
our race in our ancestral homelands. Kurdification of White people is
where we are heading. It is happening because the numbers show it.
Tell me, is there a web site where you copied all this from or did you
actually make it up yourself? BTW, you left out the bit about the Protocols
of the Elders of Zion and the Marxist-Capitalist international Jewish
conspiracy.
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| User: "Wotan" |
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| Title: Re: My parents were immigrants |
01 Nov 2003 03:06:24 PM |
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"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo15e0$ctf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
<allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message
news:ekUob.3113$8E5.20448283@news-text.cableinet.net...
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now
waiting for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes,
my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh"
or
something like that.
Well, everyone's ancestors were immigrants originally. The
important thing
is not where you can trace your ancestry, but how you regard other
people.
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF !
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| User: "Robin Carmody" |
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01 Nov 2003 04:59:02 PM |
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"Wotan" <Wotan@Valhalla.net> wrote in message
news:3fa4200c$0$12686$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo15e0$ctf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
<allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message
news:ekUob.3113$8E5.20448283@news-text.cableinet.net...
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now
waiting for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes,
my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh"
or
something like that.
Well, everyone's ancestors were immigrants originally. The
important thing
is not where you can trace your ancestry, but how you regard other
people.
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF !
So you think "ancient roots" are more important than the humanitarian values
we show to each other. Thank you for showing how narrow and arcane your
concerns are - for most of the coming generation, the first concern is for
humanity.
RC
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| User: "The Enlightenment" |
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| Title: Re: My parents were immigrants |
01 Nov 2003 09:14:33 PM |
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"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<bo1dr5$4k9$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
"Wotan" <Wotan@Valhalla.net> wrote in message
news:3fa4200c$0$12686$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo15e0$ctf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
<allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message
news:ekUob.3113$8E5.20448283@news-text.cableinet.net...
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants",
I'm now waiting for Bliar to address the parliament,
TV etc next week and say parents too were immigrants,
in fact they were from Bangaladesh" or
something like that.
Well, everyone's ancestors were immigrants originally. The
important thing is not where you can trace your ancestry,
but how you regard other people.
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF !
So you think "ancient roots" are more important than the humanitarian values
we show to each other. Thank you for showing how narrow and arcane your
concerns are - for most of the coming generation, the first concern is for
humanity.
It is interesting, don't you think, that these "humanitarian values"
of "love, tollerance and understanding" always end with the ethnocidal
replacement immigration of native Britons and their children, mostly
by people that are in no dire or even unpleasant situation by the
least strech of the imagination.
It is interesting, don't you think, that the fictive "business needs
and skills shortage" also always end with the ethnocidal replacement
immigration of native Britons and their grand children, often by
people that figure high in welfare dependancy, low school performance
and crime such that they need to be supplied at great expense with
"affirmitive action".
It's quite consistant and quite absurd and overcrowded Briton is
always the target.
Oh yes I know they are supposed to be all computer whizes and surgeons
but the truth is something usually quite messy. IE riotes in
Nottingham and Brixton etc etc etc.
It's simple really.
Immigration is minoritising and crushing the average native Briton
under a burden of over crowding, diversitycrat parasitism,
victimology.
It benefits a few elites at best and is also promoted by lunar
leftists, often under the inspiration of resentment cultivating ethnic
minorities.
Thosw with an ethnocidal mullato death wish for Whites will shift to
any "abstraction" to promote their crushing genocidal dystopia.
Your sham "humanitarian vales" are nothing but a cover for ethnocide.
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| User: "Harry The Horse" |
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02 Nov 2003 12:11:37 PM |
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The Enlightenment wrote:
It is interesting, don't you think, that these "humanitarian values"
of "love, tollerance and understanding" always end with the ethnocidal
replacement immigration of native Britons and their children, mostly
by people that are in no dire or even unpleasant situation by the
least strech of the imagination.
What, FFS, is 'ethnocide'. Please define it without paranoid bleating.
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| User: "the idiot" |
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01 Nov 2003 02:56:40 PM |
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"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo15e0$ctf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
<allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message
news:ekUob.3113$8E5.20448283@news-text.cableinet.net...
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now waiting
for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes, my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh" or
something like that.
Well, everyone's ancestors were immigrants originally. The important
thing
is not where you can trace your ancestry, but how you regard other people.
sadly we know all too well how most folk on this ng regard other people.
especially if their skin colour is different. or if they wear funny clothes.
or if their nose is too big. or if they dare to stand up against their
bosses.
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| User: "Robin Carmody" |
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01 Nov 2003 05:05:49 PM |
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"the idiot" <idiot@207g.spool.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo16m1$f49$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net...
"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo15e0$ctf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
<allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message
news:ekUob.3113$8E5.20448283@news-text.cableinet.net...
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now waiting
for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes, my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh" or
something like that.
Well, everyone's ancestors were immigrants originally. The important
thing
is not where you can trace your ancestry, but how you regard other
people.
sadly we know all too well how most folk on this ng regard other people.
especially if their skin colour is different. or if they wear funny
clothes.
or if their nose is too big. or if they dare to stand up against their
bosses.
I've realised what I hate more than anything else about the Wotans; they
assume they won't like other people unless they will, whereas most of us
assume we will like other people unless we won't.
RC
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| User: "Wotan" |
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01 Nov 2003 03:09:20 PM |
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"the idiot" <idiot@207g.spool.co.uk> wrote in message
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sadly we know all too well how most folk on this ng regard other
people.
especially if their skin colour is different. or if they wear funny
clothes.
or if their nose is too big. or if they dare to stand up against
their
bosses.
That's all very well.
But are you prepared to give them your job, your standard of
living and all your bright opportunities - that we fought two
world wars for ?
And give it to them on behalf of your children and grand
children as well ?
Are you prepared to accept them as your boss - and your
government.
Well, I'm bloody well not - and neither are any other sane
people in this country.
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| User: "Steve Glynn" |
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02 Nov 2003 05:27:49 AM |
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"Wotan" <Wotan@Valhalla.net> wrote in message
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"the idiot" <idiot@207g.spool.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo16m1$f49$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net...
sadly we know all too well how most folk on this ng regard other
people.
especially if their skin colour is different. or if they wear funny
clothes.
or if their nose is too big. or if they dare to stand up against
their
bosses.
That's all very well.
But are you prepared to give them your job, your standard of
living and all your bright opportunities - that we fought two
world wars for ?
<snip>
But I wouldn't be prepared to 'give' you or anyone else my job, standard of
living, and so forth, either, Bob ....
You have, I think, you've in the past mentioned that you work in computer
software. So do I. It would seem to follow that you and I constitute a
greater threat to each other's jobs than does any immigrant who isn't also a
software developer, does it not?
I think I can live with the threat you, and other software developers no
matter whence they originate, pose to 'my' job.
Steve
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| User: "H.Dickmann" |
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03 Nov 2003 08:09:03 AM |
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"Wotan" <Wotan@Valhalla.net> wrote in message
news:3fa420bc$0$12706$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
"the idiot" <idiot@207g.spool.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo16m1$f49$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net...
sadly we know all too well how most folk on this ng regard other
people.
especially if their skin colour is different. or if they wear funny
clothes.
or if their nose is too big. or if they dare to stand up against
their
bosses.
That's all very well.
But are you prepared to give them your job, your standard of
living and all your bright opportunities - that we fought two
world wars for ?
And give it to them on behalf of your children and grand
children as well ?
Are you prepared to accept them as your boss - and your
government.
Since Howard is a child of immigrants, are you prepared to accept him as
your Prime Minister?
Well, I'm bloody well not - and neither are any other sane
people in this country.
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| User: "Robin Carmody" |
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03 Nov 2003 02:01:11 PM |
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"H.Dickmann" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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"Wotan" <Wotan@Valhalla.net> wrote in message
news:3fa420bc$0$12706$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
"the idiot" <idiot@207g.spool.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo16m1$f49$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net...
sadly we know all too well how most folk on this ng regard other
people.
especially if their skin colour is different. or if they wear funny
clothes.
or if their nose is too big. or if they dare to stand up against
their
bosses.
That's all very well.
But are you prepared to give them your job, your standard of
living and all your bright opportunities - that we fought two
world wars for ?
And give it to them on behalf of your children and grand
children as well ?
Are you prepared to accept them as your boss - and your
government.
Since Howard is a child of immigrants, are you prepared to accept him as
your Prime Minister?
He wouldn't be, not for one moment - that is the scale of Wotan's bigotry.
Howard is *extremely* unlikely to actually become PM, though!
RC
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| User: "Robin Carmody" |
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01 Nov 2003 05:05:04 PM |
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"Wotan" <Wotan@Valhalla.net> wrote in message
news:3fa420bc$0$12706$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
"the idiot" <idiot@207g.spool.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo16m1$f49$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net...
sadly we know all too well how most folk on this ng regard other
people.
especially if their skin colour is different. or if they wear funny
clothes.
or if their nose is too big. or if they dare to stand up against
their
bosses.
That's all very well.
But are you prepared to give them your job, your standard of
living and all your bright opportunities - that we fought two
world wars for ?
And give it to them on behalf of your children and grand
children as well ?
All this paranoia only makes sense if you think that previously undeveloped,
un-industrialised countries gaining ground in the capitalist world will
automatically weaken the position of Western countries. Some of us think
that the competition will motivate an increased work ethic in the Western
world, and more positive values as the latter-day "laziness" you decry will
be fought against (the non-Western societies not having really fallen for
the more "slack", less hard-working post-1960s values you so despise).
RC
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| User: "Wotan" |
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| Title: Re: My parents were immigrants |
02 Nov 2003 05:38:17 AM |
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"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo1e6f$vcm$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Wotan" <Wotan@Valhalla.net> wrote in message
news:3fa420bc$0$12706$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
"the idiot" <idiot@207g.spool.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo16m1$f49$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net...
sadly we know all too well how most folk on this ng regard other
people.
especially if their skin colour is different. or if they wear
funny
clothes.
or if their nose is too big. or if they dare to stand up against
their
bosses.
That's all very well.
But are you prepared to give them your job, your standard of
living and all your bright opportunities - that we fought two
world wars for ?
And give it to them on behalf of your children and grand
children as well ?
All this paranoia only makes sense if you think that previously
undeveloped,
un-industrialised countries gaining ground in the capitalist world
will
automatically weaken the position of Western countries. Some of us
think
that the competition will motivate an increased work ethic in the
Western
world, and more positive values as the latter-day "laziness" you
decry will
be fought against (the non-Western societies not having really
fallen for
the more "slack", less hard-working post-1960s values you so
despise).
You really are a *****, arn't you Robin ?
People who *are* working now work longer and harder than
anybody did in the 1960's - when almost no married women
had to work to make the household budget balance. Now
a huge number of women with young children have no choice
but to work just to make ends meet.
But do you really want to go back to the largely agricultural
economy of the 1960's - when only the well to do could
afford a telephone, or an annual holiday, or a meal out - let alone
a trip to the theater or a decent car ?
How do you fancy changing your comfortable existence for
a peasant existance - where you plough a field or break your
back picking spuds for not quite enough to pay the rent and
the electricity bill ?
Mobile phone ? Forget it ! You won't even be able to
afford an ordinay land line !
Wake up ! You stupid little cretin !
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| User: "Robin Carmody" |
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| Title: Re: My parents were immigrants |
02 Nov 2003 10:12:31 PM |
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"Wotan" <Wotan@Valhalla.net> wrote in message
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"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo1e6f$vcm$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
All this paranoia only makes sense if you think that previously
undeveloped,
un-industrialised countries gaining ground in the capitalist world
will
automatically weaken the position of Western countries. Some of us
think
that the competition will motivate an increased work ethic in the
Western
world, and more positive values as the latter-day "laziness" you
decry will
be fought against (the non-Western societies not having really
fallen for
the more "slack", less hard-working post-1960s values you so
despise).
You really are a *****, arn't you Robin ?
People who *are* working now work longer and harder than
anybody did in the 1960's - when almost no married women
had to work to make the household budget balance. Now
a huge number of women with young children have no choice
but to work just to make ends meet.
But people now whinge and whine about having to do labour-intensive,
low-paid work - if you suggested to younger working-class men today that
they should do the sort of work people did in the coal mines in the 1960s,
and detailed exactly what that work was, they would recoil in horror. In
the non-Western societies people have generally held on to the pre-1960s
values of "hard work, and lots of hard work". If we had not lost those
values we would *not* be so seriously challenged by them, IMO.
But do you really want to go back to the largely agricultural
economy of the 1960's
I assume you are referring here to the economy of non-Western societies in
the 1960s - you *can't* be referring to the British economy of that time,
surely? Our economy was slightly more agricultural than now, in that there
were more farms and there was more farmland, but the percentage of the
population working in agriculture was still very low, compared even to 20
years earlier (ie before the post-war innovations in agricultural
technology).
- when only the well to do could
afford a telephone, or an annual holiday, or a meal out - let alone
a trip to the theater or a decent car ?
Odd that you now seem to be acknowledging that some things weren't so good
in the past! I note that you, the self-proclaimed Great British Patriot,
cannot even bother to use the British spelling of "theatre", but let's not
waste our time with that ...
How do you fancy changing your comfortable existence for
a peasant existance -
See above. There were no "peasants" in Britain in the 1960s in the true
sense of the term. Nor are we ever likely to return to a peasant society,
not least because we were the first society in the world to clear the
peasantry off the land (enclosure acts, attendant urbanisation /
industrialisation of the working classes, etc).
where you plough a field or break your
back picking spuds for not quite enough to pay the rent and
the electricity bill ?
Mobile phone ? Forget it ! You won't even be able to
afford an ordinay land line !
The improvement in such things has been driven by the same capitalist global
economy you decry, though.
Wake up ! You stupid little cretin !
You need to find some more original insults, I think.
RC
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| User: "Harry The Horse" |
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03 Nov 2003 05:05:32 PM |
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Robin Carmody wrote:
You really are a *****, arn't you Robin ?
People who *are* working now work longer and harder than
anybody did in the 1960's - when almost no married women
had to work to make the household budget balance. Now
a huge number of women with young children have no choice
but to work just to make ends meet.
But people now whinge and whine about having to do labour-intensive,
low-paid work - if you suggested to younger working-class men today
that they should do the sort of work people did in the coal mines in
the 1960s, and detailed exactly what that work was, they would recoil
in horror.
20 years ago we had one of the most rancorous labour disputes precisely to
defend the jobs of those who want to continue to work in coal mines. You
think it was just a bluff and all Scargill really wanted for his members was
jobs in poncey boutiques?
In the non-Western societies people have generally held
on to the pre-1960s values of "hard work, and lots of hard work". If
we had not lost those values we would *not* be so seriously
challenged by them, IMO.
Utter, utter bilge. This is a question of economics not moral values. All
the figures show that people work longer and harder today than they did in
the 50s and 60s. For the first, and may be the last time, I find myself in
agreement with Wotan.
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| User: "Graham Innocent" |
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02 Nov 2003 05:07:59 PM |
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People who *are* working now work longer and harder than
anybody did in the 1960's - when almost no married women
had to work to make the household budget balance. Now
a huge number of women with young children have no choice
but to work just to make ends meet.
Agreed. And they've managed to convince many women that they should be
greatful this is the case, that they are 'liberated' by it.
But do you really want to go back to the largely agricultural
economy of the 1960's - when only the well to do could
afford a telephone, or an annual holiday, or a meal out - let alone
a trip to the theater or a decent car ?
Are you referring to the Australian or US economy here? The UK hasn't
had a 'largely agricultural' economy for over a century now. In the
1960's my grandparents could afford to own a car, buy their own home,
own a telephone and occasioanlly eat out despite my Grandmother not
working outside the home and my Grandfather's job being a relatively
modest position as a clerk in local government. A local government
clerk wouldn't earn more than about £20k in the city my Grandparents
lived in today. A recently married couple today who _both_ earned £20k
per annum would have to borrow over 5 times their _joint_ income (if
they could find a mortgage provider willing to lend such a ludicrous
multiple at all) in order to purchase the same modest semi-detached
suburban house my Grandfather bought on his salary alone in the 1950s.
Mobile phone ? Forget it ! You won't even be able to
afford an ordinay land line !
Technology has advanced since 1960. This has nothing to do with
government policy on immigration, inflation or taxes. One can't own a
mobile phone before they're invented. My grandparents had no trouble
maintaining a land-line in the 1960's. I'm not sure where you got this
idea from.
I hope the example above illustrates clearly how, in the UK at least,
living standards for the working and lower middle classes have sorely
deteriorated in the last couple of generations in the UK.
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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01 Nov 2003 10:07:54 PM |
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Subject: Re: My parents were immigrants
From: "Robin Carmody"
Date: 11/1/2003 6:05 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <bo1e6f$vcm$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>
"Wotan" <Wotan@Valhalla.net> wrote in message
news:3fa420bc$0$12706$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
"the idiot" <idiot@207g.spool.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo16m1$f49$1@newsreaderg1.core.theplanet.net...
sadly we know all too well how most folk on this ng regard other
people.
especially if their skin colour is different. or if they wear funny
clothes.
or if their nose is too big. or if they dare to stand up against
their
bosses.
That's all very well.
But are you prepared to give them your job, your standard of
living and all your bright opportunities - that we fought two
world wars for ?
And give it to them on behalf of your children and grand
children as well ?
All this paranoia only makes sense if you think that previously undeveloped,
un-industrialised countries gaining ground in the capitalist world will
automatically weaken the position of Western countries. Some of us think
that the competition will motivate an increased work ethic in the Western
world, and more positive values as the latter-day "laziness" you decry will
be fought against (the non-Western societies not having really fallen for
the more "slack", less hard-working post-1960s values you so despise).
RC
Your an idiot if you really think that way but I suspect that you are just
posting crap. There are presently over 1,100,000,000 people in India a nation
1/3 the size of the United States. There are slightly more Chinese. The world
population is well over 6,000,000,000. The ocean are not basically dead. The
problem with you is you probably believe that more immigration will make for a
better world. It will just continue the massive overpopulaiton. There are
millions of people all over the world from Inida and China and yet they are no
better off and continue to overpopulate to the point of possible destruction of
the planet.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Gareth Crawshaw" |
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01 Nov 2003 04:07:22 PM |
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[]
That's all very well.
But are you prepared to give them your job,
I thought it was more a case of all the jobs moving to the far east (or sthg
like that) rather than to anyone native or otherwise to this country...
your standard of living and all your bright opportunities - that we
fought two
world wars for ?
Don't believe a word blair, his govt and the ILO says... life, on the whole,
isn't so peachy for the majority in the UK.
And give it to them on behalf of your children and grand
children as well ?
Are you prepared to accept them as your boss - and your
government.
As long as they do right by me, my family, my friends, my colleagues and the
country... You can draw your own conclusions on that one!
g.
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| User: "Orange" |
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01 Nov 2003 05:09:57 PM |
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"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo15e0$ctf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
<allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message
news:ekUob.3113$8E5.20448283@news-text.cableinet.net...
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now waiting
for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes, my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh" or
something like that.
Well, everyone's ancestors were immigrants originally. The important
thing
is not where you can trace your ancestry, but how you regard other people.
Kenan Malik said in his C4 TV programme 'Disunited Britain', one thing that
Asians, Blacks and Whites are all united on is that "They all hate
Asylum-seekers".
RC
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| User: "Baroness Edwina Frogbucket" |
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02 Nov 2003 06:39:00 PM |
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"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo15e0$ctf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
<allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message
news:ekUob.3113$8E5.20448283@news-text.cableinet.net...
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now waiting
for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes, my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh" or
something like that.
Well, everyone's ancestors were immigrants originally. The important
thing
is not where you can trace your ancestry, but how you regard other people.
Where does your ancestry originate, Robin? Fairyland?
--
Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
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| User: "Robin Carmody" |
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03 Nov 2003 12:14:47 AM |
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"Baroness Edwina Frogbucket" <edwina.frogbucket@void.com> wrote in message
news:bo489s$14g8le$2@ID-58798.news.uni-berlin.de...
"Robin Carmody" <robin@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo15e0$ctf$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
<allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message
news:ekUob.3113$8E5.20448283@news-text.cableinet.net...
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now waiting
for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes, my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh" or
something like that.
Well, everyone's ancestors were immigrants originally. The important
thing
is not where you can trace your ancestry, but how you regard other
people.
Where does your ancestry originate, Robin? Fairyland?
Somewhere on Earth. I have not traced my family history back that far, but
I would doubt very much whether it is all "pure island race".
RC
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| User: "Stvn Brwn" |
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03 Nov 2003 04:32:32 AM |
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Robin Carmody wrote:
"Baroness Edwina Frogbucket" <edwina.frogbucket@void.com> wrote in message
news:bo489s$14g8le$2@ID-58798.news.uni-berlin.de...
Where does your ancestry originate, Robin? Fairyland?
Somewhere on Earth. I have not traced my family history back that far, but
I would doubt very much whether it is all "pure island race".
My parents were English. AFAIK my father came from a long line of Derbyshire Browns. My
maternal great-grandfather was an Italian immigrant. So this makes me one eighth Italian. :-)
<cue loads of jokes about cowardice, etc etc etc>
--
Stvn Brwn
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| User: "" |
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03 Nov 2003 04:45:07 AM |
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:32:32 +0000 (UTC), Stvn Brwn
<xyzxyzxyzxyz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Robin Carmody wrote:
"Baroness Edwina Frogbucket" <edwina.frogbucket@void.com> wrote in message
news:bo489s$14g8le$2@ID-58798.news.uni-berlin.de...
Where does your ancestry originate, Robin? Fairyland?
Somewhere on Earth. I have not traced my family history back that far, but
I would doubt very much whether it is all "pure island race".
My parents were English. AFAIK my father came from a long line of Derbyshire Browns. My
maternal great-grandfather was an Italian immigrant. So this makes me one eighth Italian. :-)
<cue loads of jokes about cowardice, etc etc etc>
only tits like you make such feeble jokes.
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| User: "Stvn Brwn" |
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03 Nov 2003 05:22:38 AM |
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wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:32:32 +0000 (UTC), Stvn Brwn
<xyzxyzxyzxyz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Robin Carmody wrote:
"Baroness Edwina Frogbucket" <edwina.frogbucket@void.com> wrote in message
news:bo489s$14g8le$2@ID-58798.news.uni-berlin.de...
Where does your ancestry originate, Robin? Fairyland?
Somewhere on Earth. I have not traced my family history back that far, but
I would doubt very much whether it is all "pure island race".
My parents were English. AFAIK my father came from a long line of Derbyshire Browns. My
maternal great-grandfather was an Italian immigrant. So this makes me one eighth Italian. :-)
<cue loads of jokes about cowardice, etc etc etc>
only tits like you make such feeble jokes.
Sexist as well as racist then. You'll love it in the BNP.
--
Stvn Brwn
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| User: "Ian Bailey" |
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02 Nov 2003 12:18:14 AM |
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"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White" <allblamelies@political.correctness> wrote in message news:<ekUob.3113$8E5.20448283@news-text.cableinet.net>...
Since Michael Howard said "my parents are immigrants", I'm now waiting for
Bliar to address the parliament, TV etc next week and say 'oh yes, my
parents too were immigrants, in fact they were from Bangaladesh" or
something like that.
Considering that both the Angles and the Saxons were immigrants, as
were the Vikings and the Normans, I'd suggest that apart from a tiny
minority who can trace ancestry back to the people Boudica was
defending, we're ALL immigrants.
Ian
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