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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "www.peaceinspace.com"
Date: 09 Jul 2006 06:23:56 PM
Object: N Korea: Problem, Reaction, Solution Re: Rumsfeld: The Definition Of Traitor
On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 21:58:16 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, Colin Day in episode
<QxWrg.19052$so3.8796@southeast.rr.com>...

www.peaceinspace.com wrote:

On 8 Jul 2006 07:11:45 -0700,

wrote:


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/190606mocknuked.htm

N. Korea Has Already 'Mock Nuked' Alaska - With US Government Help New
reports about threat of missile launch omit key facts

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 19 2006

Reports today concerning the completed fueling of North Korea's long
range Taepodong-2 missile and its planned launch within a month omit
several key aspects of the story, including the fact that North Korea
already launched a missile that hit Alaska, with the help of the US
government.

In March 2003, the Korea Times reported that the U.S. National Assembly
included a startling admission in its final report regarding
Pyongyang's missile capabilities.


What is the U. S. National Assembly?


One hell of a big blunder on the part of this "prisonplanet" site. If you
go to the Korea Times article they "cite"...

http://makeashorterlink.com/?M175220B3

You find:

"The warhead of a long-range missile test-fired by North Korea was found
in the U.S. state of Alaska, a report to the National Assembly revealed
yesterday."

I mean, if they mangle an article they can have open *while they write
their own article... well, what can you say?

Of course, now that we've seen the Big Bad Missile Launch, well, this
little story is rather funny. They hit Alaska already? Hell, they couldn't
hit the barn next to the launch site...

The more important question is why is Rumsfeld enabling the N. Koreans to
manufacture nuclear warheads, and then declaring them the enemy, while
inciting the rest of the world to panic, when *EVERYONE* KNOWS nuclear war
heads are ***completely obsolete****. And even if N. Korea lobed a few at
the USA, it would play right into the hands of the psychopaths running the
US government, who don't give a damn about the American people anyway but
want a world war to prop up the failing Federal Reserve, which has no oil.
Besides, it would save Rumsfeld the trouble of inventing another 9-11 event.
Problem -- reaction -- solution.
Rumsfeld creates the problem, the public reacts predictable, and then
Rumsfeld presents the solution -- war -- more war to create more fiat money
for the Federal Reserve to finance their alleged NWO, which is rapidly
running out of oil and environment.
In a word:
Dumbass
.

User: "steve"

Title: Re: N Korea: Problem, Reaction, Solution Re: Rumsfeld: The Definition Of Traitor 09 Jul 2006 08:26:11 PM
www.peaceinspace.com wrote:

Problem -- reaction -- solution.

Rumsfeld creates the problem, the public reacts predictable, and then
Rumsfeld presents the solution -- war -- more war to create more fiat
money for the Federal Reserve to finance their alleged NWO, which is
rapidly running out of oil and environment.

In a word:

Dumbass

Or two words: American Idiots - a la Green Day.
That song is SO true about so many dumbass Americans proud to be ignorant
AND stupid.
While the rest of America weeps.

.
User: "www.peaceinspace.com"

Title: Re: N Korea: Problem, Reaction, Solution Re: Rumsfeld: The Definition Of Traitor 09 Jul 2006 08:32:12 PM
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:26:11 +1200, steve <steve@whodathotit.org> wrote:

www.peaceinspace.com wrote:

Problem -- reaction -- solution.

Rumsfeld creates the problem, the public reacts predictable, and then
Rumsfeld presents the solution -- war -- more war to create more fiat
money for the Federal Reserve to finance their alleged NWO, which is
rapidly running out of oil and environment.

In a word:

Dumbass


Or two words: American Idiots - a la Green Day.

That song is SO true about so many dumbass Americans proud to be ignorant
AND stupid.

While the rest of America weeps.

The American people are the tool by which the Federal Reserve creates money
out of thin air. Rumsfeld has a field day robbing the US Treasury and
running up the National debt, but the *real* co-conspirators are those who
buy US debt -- they're enabling the Rothschild/Rockefeller Federal Reserve
to spread ignorance, fascism and crimes against humanity. There's no use in
denying Halliburton is a front operation for international drug smuggling.
And there's no denying the CIA not only assists in that drug smuggling, but
also kidnaps innocent American children to use as Manchurian candidates.
There is no doubt that the entire lynch-pin in the crime syndicate is the
American people, who largely are ignorant of how they're being used. Though
it is obvious that Americans, the VAST majority, know criminals when they're
being victimized.
.
User: "www.peaceinspace.com"

Title: Japan Financing N. Korea Re: N Korea: Problem, Reaction, Solution Re: Rumsfeld: The Definition Of Traitor 09 Jul 2006 09:08:04 PM
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:32:12 GMT, www.peaceinspace.com <truth@r.us> wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:26:11 +1200, steve <steve@whodathotit.org> wrote:

www.peaceinspace.com wrote:

Problem -- reaction -- solution.

Rumsfeld creates the problem, the public reacts predictable, and then
Rumsfeld presents the solution -- war -- more war to create more fiat
money for the Federal Reserve to finance their alleged NWO, which is
rapidly running out of oil and environment.

In a word:

Dumbass


Or two words: American Idiots - a la Green Day.

That song is SO true about so many dumbass Americans proud to be ignorant
AND stupid.

While the rest of America weeps.


The American people are the tool by which the Federal Reserve creates money
out of thin air. Rumsfeld has a field day robbing the US Treasury and
running up the National debt, but the *real* co-conspirators are those who
buy US debt -- they're enabling the Rothschild/Rockefeller Federal Reserve
to spread ignorance, fascism and crimes against humanity. There's no use in
denying Halliburton is a front operation for international drug smuggling.
And there's no denying the CIA not only assists in that drug smuggling, but
also kidnaps innocent American children to use as Manchurian candidates.
There is no doubt that the entire lynch-pin in the crime syndicate is the
American people, who largely are ignorant of how they're being used. Though
it is obvious that Americans, the VAST majority, know criminals when they're
being victimized.


Japan buys massive amounts of US debt:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._national_debt
While enabling N. Korea to lob a nuke into their own country.
Brilliant, eh?
.
User: "Sir Gilligan Horry"

Title: Re: Japan Financing N. Korea's Timothy Good's UFO books collection. 10 Jul 2006 05:09:31 PM
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 02:08:04 GMT, www.peaceinspace.com <truth@r.us>
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:32:12 GMT, www.peaceinspace.com <truth@r.us> wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:26:11 +1200, steve <steve@whodathotit.org> wrote:

www.peaceinspace.com wrote:

Problem -- reaction -- solution.

Rumsfeld creates the problem, the public reacts predictable, and then
Rumsfeld presents the solution -- war -- more war to create more fiat
money for the Federal Reserve to finance their alleged NWO, which is
rapidly running out of oil and environment.

In a word:

Dumbass


Or two words: American Idiots - a la Green Day.

That song is SO true about so many dumbass Americans proud to be ignorant
AND stupid.

While the rest of America weeps.


The American people are the tool by which the Federal Reserve creates money
out of thin air. Rumsfeld has a field day robbing the US Treasury and
running up the National debt, but the *real* co-conspirators are those who
buy US debt -- they're enabling the Rothschild/Rockefeller Federal Reserve
to spread ignorance, fascism and crimes against humanity. There's no use in
denying Halliburton is a front operation for international drug smuggling.
And there's no denying the CIA not only assists in that drug smuggling, but
also kidnaps innocent American children to use as Manchurian candidates.
There is no doubt that the entire lynch-pin in the crime syndicate is the
American people, who largely are ignorant of how they're being used. Though
it is obvious that Americans, the VAST majority, know criminals when they're
being victimized.



Japan buys massive amounts of US debt:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._national_debt

While enabling N. Korea to lob a nuke into their own country.

Brilliant, eh?

How was that on FOX & Friends last night .....
"Japan considers a pre-emptive strike on North Korea"
But some Japanese friends searched the Asahi News, etc,
and there is not such talk.
OK, I just found it here ...
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/japan-considers-preemptive-strike-on-korea/2006/07/10/1152383677464.html
Anyway, there is one thing for sure, North Korea exists and the World
has to do something about it.
I could send them on of my three PCs
so they could read poetry on the internet, and get an education, and
read Timothy Good's UFO books, and develop wisdom, and respect other
cultures, and care about nature, etc.
(oh and freedom of speech)
(and farming techniques, instead of eating insects and rats)
Ummm, but, then they might start buying Play Station 3 chips online,
and build missiles that go around the planet Earth for ten thousand
miles or a hundred thousand miles or ..... trillions.
;-)
.
User: "www.peaceinspace.com"

Title: Re: Japan Financing N. Korea's Timothy Good's UFO books collection. 10 Jul 2006 10:37:24 PM
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:09:31 +1200, Sir Gilligan Horry <GM@ga7rm5er.com>
wrote:

"Japan considers a pre-emptive strike on North Korea"

Japan needs to consider who sold N. Korea the nukes.
It was Rumsfeld.
.
User: "The Good Reverend Roger"

Title: Re: Japan Financing N. Korea's Timothy Good's UFO books collection. 10 Jul 2006 10:39:53 PM
www. peaceinspace. com wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:09:31 +1200, Sir Gilligan Horry <GM@ga7rm5er.com>
wrote:

"Japan considers a pre-emptive strike on North Korea"


Japan needs to consider who sold N. Korea the nukes.

It was Rumsfeld.

Tinfoil goes shiny side OUT.
.


User: "www.peaceinspace.com"

Title: Japan Financing N. Korea Re: N Korea: Problem, Reaction, Solution Re: Rumsfeld: The Definition Of Traitor 10 Jul 2006 10:38:41 PM
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:09:31 +1200, Sir Gilligan Horry <GM@ga7rm5er.com>
wrote:

"Japan considers a pre-emptive strike on North Korea"

Japan needs to consider who sold N. Korea the nukes.
It was Rumsfeld.
.

User: "www.peaceinspace.com"

Title: Re: Japan Financing N. Korea Re: N Korea: Problem, Reaction, Solution Re: Rumsfeld: The Definition Of Traitor 10 Jul 2006 10:39:12 PM
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:09:31 +1200, Sir Gilligan Horry <GM@ga7rm5er.com>
wrote:

"Japan considers a pre-emptive strike on North Korea"

Japan needs to consider who sold N. Korea the nukes.
It was Rumsfeld.
.



User: "www.peaceinspace.com"

Title: Rumsfeld Hoodwinks Japan Re: N Korea: Problem, Reaction, Solution Re: Rumsfeld: The Definition Of Traitor 09 Jul 2006 09:26:24 PM
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:32:12 GMT, www.peaceinspace.com <truth@r.us> wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:26:11 +1200, steve <steve@whodathotit.org> wrote:

www.peaceinspace.com wrote:

Problem -- reaction -- solution.

Rumsfeld creates the problem, the public reacts predictable, and then
Rumsfeld presents the solution -- war -- more war to create more fiat
money for the Federal Reserve to finance their alleged NWO, which is
rapidly running out of oil and environment.

In a word:

Dumbass


Or two words: American Idiots - a la Green Day.

That song is SO true about so many dumbass Americans proud to be ignorant
AND stupid.

While the rest of America weeps.


The American people are the tool by which the Federal Reserve creates money
out of thin air. Rumsfeld has a field day robbing the US Treasury and
running up the National debt, but the *real* co-conspirators are those who
buy US debt -- they're enabling the Rothschild/Rockefeller Federal Reserve
to spread ignorance, fascism and crimes against humanity. There's no use in
denying Halliburton is a front operation for international drug smuggling.
And there's no denying the CIA not only assists in that drug smuggling, but
also kidnaps innocent American children to use as Manchurian candidates.
There is no doubt that the entire lynch-pin in the crime syndicate is the
American people, who largely are ignorant of how they're being used. Though
it is obvious that Americans, the VAST majority, know criminals when they're
being victimized.


Japan buys massive amounts of US debt:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._national_debt
While enabling N. Korea to lob a nuke into their own country.
Brilliant, eh?
.

User: "www.peaceinspace.com"

Title: Bilderbergs Set Up Japan For The Kill: AGAIN Re: N Korea: Problem, Reaction, Solution Re: Rumsfeld: The Definition Of Traitor 09 Jul 2006 09:36:02 PM
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:32:12 GMT, www.peaceinspace.com <truth@r.us> wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:26:11 +1200, steve <steve@whodathotit.org> wrote:

www.peaceinspace.com wrote:

Problem -- reaction -- solution.

Rumsfeld creates the problem, the public reacts predictable, and then
Rumsfeld presents the solution -- war -- more war to create more fiat
money for the Federal Reserve to finance their alleged NWO, which is
rapidly running out of oil and environment.

In a word:

Dumbass


Or two words: American Idiots - a la Green Day.

That song is SO true about so many dumbass Americans proud to be ignorant
AND stupid.

While the rest of America weeps.


The American people are the tool by which the Federal Reserve creates money
out of thin air. Rumsfeld has a field day robbing the US Treasury and
running up the National debt, but the *real* co-conspirators are those who
buy US debt -- they're enabling the Rothschild/Rockefeller Federal Reserve
to spread ignorance, fascism and crimes against humanity. There's no use in
denying Halliburton is a front operation for international drug smuggling.
And there's no denying the CIA not only assists in that drug smuggling, but
also kidnaps innocent American children to use as Manchurian candidates.
There is no doubt that the entire lynch-pin in the crime syndicate is the
American people, who largely are ignorant of how they're being used. Though
it is obvious that Americans, the VAST majority, know criminals when they're
being victimized.


Japan buys massive amounts of US debt:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._national_debt
While enabling N. Korea to lob a nuke into their own country.
Brilliant, eh?
Looks very much like the Japanese have been hoodwinked by master con
artists. And let's see how stupid the Japanese are if they support Bushco
in their crusade for a contrived world war -- AGAIN. How soon the Japs
forget it was Bushco who dropped the nukes on them the FIRST time.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/190606mocknuked.htm
Salient excerpt:
The 1994 Agreed Framework deal gave North Korea the capacity to generate
enough nuclear fuel to produce almost 100 nuclear bombs per year. A 1999
congressional study undertaken by the House North Korea Advisory Group
warned,
“Through the provision of two light water reactors [LWRs] under the 1994
Agreed Framework, the United States, through KEDO, will provide North Korea
with the capacity to produce annually enough fissile material for nearly 100
nuclear bombs, should the Democratic People's Republic of Korea [DPRK]
decide to violate the Nonproliferation Treaty [NPT].”
In April 2002 the Bush administration announced that it would release $95
million of American taxpayer’s dollars to begin construction of the
‘harmless’ light water reactors. Bush argued that arming the megalomaniac
dictator Kim Jong-Il with the potential to produce a hundred nukes a year
was, “vital to the national security interests of the United States.” Bush
released even more money in January 2003, as reported by Bloomberg News,
“President George W. Bush is seeking $3.5 million for the international
consortium that continues to build two nuclear reactors for North Korea,
even as the U.S. confronts the communist regime over nuclear arms.”
The company that got the contract to deliver equipment and services to build
the two light water reactor stations was ABB (Asea Brown Boveri), which
describes itself as, “a leader in power and automation technologies that
enable utility and industry customers to improve performance while lowering
environmental impact.” The contract was valued at $200 million and was
signed in January 2000.
It should not surprise us that our old friend Donald Rumsfeld, the man who
paved the way for U.S. companies to sell Iraq chemical and biological
weapons in 1983, was an executive director for ABB from 2000-2001. Rumsfeld
resigned when he was appointed U.S. Secretary of Defense. Wolfram Eberhardt,
a spokesman for ABB confirmed that Rumsfeld was at nearly all the board
meetings during his involvement with the company. The meetings were held
quarterly in Zurich, Switzerland. However, Rumsfeld again displays his
uncanny ability to forget things in stating that he ‘doesn’t remember’ the
issue of North Korea being brought before the ABB board. Swiss Info
concluded,
“Rumsfeld’s position at ABB could prove embarrassing for the Bush
administration since while he was a director he was also active on issues of
weapons proliferation, chairing the 1998 congressional Ballistic Missile
Threat commission.”
.



User: ""

Title: Re: N Korea: Problem, Reaction, Solution Re: Rumsfeld: The Definition Of Traitor 09 Jul 2006 07:00:48 PM
www.peaceinspace.com wrote:

when *EVERYONE* KNOWS nuclear war
heads are ***completely obsolete****.....
Problem -- reaction -- solution.

Politically, strategically, or technologically 'obsolete'?
.
User: "www.peaceinspace.com"

Title: Re: N Korea: Problem, Reaction, Solution Re: Rumsfeld: The Definition Of Traitor 09 Jul 2006 07:13:34 PM
On 9 Jul 2006 17:00:48 -0700,
wrote:


www.peaceinspace.com wrote:

when *EVERYONE* KNOWS nuclear war
heads are ***completely obsolete****.....
Problem -- reaction -- solution.


Politically, strategically, or technologically 'obsolete'?

All of the above. The Rothschild/Rockefeller Federal Reserve doesn't want
any technology or technological advancement to make money obsolete.
That's why the US/UK/Europe (British Empire) is so technologically
backwards. The Rothschild/Rockefellers are only interested in spy and mind
control technology -- technology which *controls* people, but doesn't free
them from being monetary slaves.
But it's too late, the Russians already have the technology to change all of
that completely.
And they are prepared to use it. And this time Sharon won't be running off
to Moscow begging the KGB not to deploy energetics weaponry.
The jig, my dear, is completely up.
Statement of the situation
• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •
Since the late 1970s, Israel has repeatedly saved the United States from
pending destruction.
1970s, saved us from already-inserted Spetznaz teams with nuclear weapons,
who would have blown up our cities.

1986, saved us from pending Soviet attack with energetics weapons,
particularly scalar interferometers.

1997, saved us from Soviet attack twice, which would have been attacks by
the full energetics weapons arsenal.

1999-2000, destroyed millions of nonmaterial robots in subspace inside EM
signals, fields, and potentials throughout the U.S.

Presently, attack is again scheduled, with addition of the eerie new mind
conversion techniques of mind war. .
Israel may be able to save us once again, in which case we shall survive.
Otherwise, we will be destroyed, beginning about two years from now.
http://www.cheniere.org/books/oblivion/slide_1.htm
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