hol99 wrote:

"Charles Farley" <CircularErrorZero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1167968046.684353.142210@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in
office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where
stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my
top priorities. I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and
on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein. ... Others have talked
about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he has
chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get
nuclear weapons."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002
http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html




"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware
that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue
of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in
the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a
threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the
weapons inspection process."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq
December 16, 1998
http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

Pssssst! Here's a clue: they're all in on it.

Pelosi was duped just like we were by the Lying Fool. Bush has
intelligence that is not shared with Congress, therefore Congress
cannot know what the president knows.

Ergo, any member of Congress can be lied to as easily as you or I.

WR

Charles Farley wrote:

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in
office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where
stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my
top priorities. I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and
on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein. ... Others have talked
about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he has
chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get
nuclear weapons."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002
http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html



"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware
that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue
of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in
the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a
threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the
weapons inspection process."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq
December 16, 1998
http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

Pelosi was duped just like we were by the Lying Fool.

Scotius wrote:

Charles Farley wrote:

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years
in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where
stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of
my top priorities. I applaud the President on focusing on this issue
and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein. ... Others have
talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he
has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get
nuclear weapons."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002
http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html



"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware
that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue
of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in
the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a
threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the
weapons inspection process."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq
December 16, 1998
http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

Thanks for bringing this up

No problem.

but the fact is there were none there

Then why did Pelosi lie to the American people?

But really, it's a moot point as decisions must be made with the
information available, not information that may be available at
some time in the future. The burden on proof was on Saddam to
comply, as John Kerry so nicely summarized as he voted YES
to authorize US military force against Iraq:

"So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with
us since the end of the Persian Gulf War.

In U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441, the United Nations
has now affirmed that Saddam Hussein must disarm or face the
most serious consequences. LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE BURDEN
IS RESOUNDINGLY ON SADDAM HUSSEIN to live up to the ceasefire
agreement he signed and make clear to the world how he disposed
of weapons he previously admitted to possessing."

http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

and there's no reason to stay;

Actually, the Resolution for which a great many Democrats voted
YES, laid out not only the reasons to remove Saddam, but also
the reasons to stay:

"It should be the policy of the United States to support
efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and
PROMOTE THE EMERGENCE OF A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT to replace
that regime."


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec02/joint_resolution_10-11-02.html


These are just a handful of the many Democrats who voted YES
to the Resolution:

Kerry, John (D-MA)
Reid, Harry (D-NV)
Edwards, John (D-NC)
Clinton, Hillary (D-NY)
Cleland, Max (D-GA)
Feinstein, Dianne (D-CA)
Biden, Joseph (D-DE)
Schumer, Charles (D-NY)
Murtha, John (D-PA)
Etc, etc, etc, etc...

http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html


I don't believe you could characterize the above individuals
as Bush "cronies." Also, they were all certainly aware of the
reasons to authorize US military force against Iraq, since they
all voted YES to the Resolution (the content of which was widely
published and discussed, despite the fact that you have forgotten,
or were never aware of, its contents).

Here's the text of the Resolution, so you can get up to speed:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec02/joint_resolution_10-11-02.html

can_o_worms wrote:

On 4 Jan 2007 19:34:06 -0800, "Charles Farley"
<CircularErrorZero@yahoo.com> wrote:

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in
office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where
stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my
top priorities. I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and
on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein. ... Others have talked
about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he has
chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get
nuclear weapons."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002
http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html




"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware
that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue
of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in
the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a
threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the
weapons inspection process."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq
December 16, 1998
http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

Well no thinking person ever considered the possibility
that Democrats aren't part of the problem at Knesset West.

Thinking folks have known that Democrats have been in AIPACs pocket for
longer than the 'Pugs.

I knew Junior's neoCON backers wanted a war with Iran
even before the 2000 primaries and surely after Dubya
and all the other Republican Presidential candidates,
except for Buchanan, promised to take out Sotdam at
an "American Jewish Commitee" fundraiser during the
2000 primaries (televised on C-SPAN for anyone to see)

Do you think the phony pols at Knesset West didn't
know what was going down by 2002 ?.....a task for the
treasonous religious right GOP to be sure since Clinton
(who formalized the policy of an Iraq regime change in '98)
was prevented from invading Iraq by the left and the
third-party-spoiler factor as posed by the Green Party.

But how stupid could Democrats be, at this point, to allow
Bush, Hillary the Hawk or "Surge" McCain to attack Iran?

Well, the voters don't actually have that much to say about it.

The real question is will the military blindly follow the orders of a
madman into the jaws of WW III.

You know, the big one that Armageddonists have been promising...
:-\

Were they worth my gamble to vote largely Democrat last
November ? That's the question: Do they work for us or
the Israel lobby (guess what: There is no evidence that
oil interests lobbied for the Iraq war but AIPAC certainly
did)

You make an excellent point.

It's been proven that the Iraq war was begun on IsReeLs behalf, at least
in part.

See the article here: http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=23083

None that I know of are willing to warn Junior not to take
the unconstitutional initiative to attack Iran yet.

Zbiggy warned Bushler not to go there, and encouraged the Congress to
impeach if he did.

--

Recent legislation sponsored by the
"American Israel Public Affairs Committee"
to effect an eventual regime change in Iran.

No energy lobbies pushing this legislation.
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FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 105

H R 282 2/3 YEA-AND-NAY 26-Apr-2006

BILL TITLE: To hold the current regime in Iran
accountable for its threatening behavior and to
support a transition to democracy in Iran

YEAS 397

Too numerous to list but include Democrats Jack Murtha,
John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Bernie Sanders, Barbara Lee,
and Lynn Woolsey.

NAYS 21

Tammy Baldwin - Dem
Earl Blumenauer - Dem
Allen Boyd - Dem
Peter DeFazio - Dem
John J. Duncan - Rep
Jeff Flake - Rep
John Hostettler - Rep
Walter B. Jones (NC) - Rep
Dennis Kucinich - Dem
Jim Leach - Rep
Jim McDermott - Dem
Jim McGovern - Dem
Cynthia McKinney - Dem
Jim Oberstar - Dem
Dave Obey - Dem
John Olver - Dem
Ron Paul - Rep
Nick Rahall - Dem
Vic Snyder - Dem
Pete Stark - Dem
Gene Taylor (MS) - Dem
********
Did I mention that this legislation was sponsored by
the "American Israel Public Affairs Committee"
to effect an eventual regime change in Iran ?

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll105.xml

No energy lobbies pushing this legislation.

On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:48:02 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Who controls the satellites?

Who controls the CIA?

Who controls the NSA?

Bush does. Well, he's supposed to at least.

Well having Chalibi on the DoD payroll should have been
another clue for CONgress.....Fired by the CIA as a fraud
in '98....Wanted in Jordan for fraud and singled out as the
source of the obviously fraudulent Mohammed Atta meets
Iraqi Security chief story by Pat Buchanan before CONgress
voted on the obviously fraudulent Public Law 107-243
(authorization for use of force in Iraq)

Everyone with their head out of their ***** at Knesset West
knew that the Bush administration had a regime-change
agenda for Iraq.....It's not like we haven't ever been lied
into a war before.....Lyndon Johnson and the fraudulent
Tonkin Gulf story came to my mind at the time.

"Charles Farley" <CircularErrorZero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1167968046.684353.142210@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in
office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where
stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my
top priorities. I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and
on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein. ... Others have talked
about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he has
chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get
nuclear weapons."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002
http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html




"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware
that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue
of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in
the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a
threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the
weapons inspection process."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq
December 16, 1998
http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

--
New neoconservative favorite Senator McCain at
"American Israel Public Affairs Committee" Rally :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34139976@N00/163949842/

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