On Thu, 31 May 2007 23:58:45 -0400, Shawn Hirn wrote:

"To assume that it is a problem is to assume that the state of Earth's
climate today is the optimal climate, the best climate that we could
have or ever have had and that we need to take steps to make sure that
it doesn't change," Griffin said. "I guess I would ask which human
beings - where and when - are to be accorded the privilege of deciding
that this particular climate that we have right here today, right now
is the best climate for all other human beings. I think that's a
rather arrogant position for people to take." "

He didn't deny that global warming is a problem;

Did you even read that paragraph? He sais it's misguided and arrogant to
assume that it's a problem.

On Jun 2, 6:55 am, otto <pijoto...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On May 31, 3:06 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

<ScreenBeret...@aol.com> wrote:

Yup........This Guy tells the TRUTH and it's Pissing The Leftist Pukes
OFF..........Heehee..........Ain't It GRAND?..........

"May 31, 2007
ABCNews

NASA administrator Michael Griffin is drawing the ire of some of his
agency's scientists after apparently downplaying the need to combat
global warming.

In an interview broadcast this morning on National Public Radio's
"Morning Edition" program, Griffin was asked by NPR's Steve Inskeep
whether he is concerned about global warming.

"I have no doubt that a trend of global warming exists," Griffin told
Inskeep. "I am not sure that it is fair to say that it is a problem we
must wrestle with."

"To assume that it is a problem is to assume that the state of Earth's
climate today is the optimal climate, the best climate that we could
have or ever have had and that we need to take steps to make sure that
it doesn't change," Griffin said. "I guess I would ask which human
beings - where and when - are to be accorded the privilege of deciding
that this particular climate that we have right here today, right now
is the best climate for all other human beings. I think that's a
rather arrogant position for people to take." "

What utter nonsense. Direct to you from the Imperial Castle.

<snarky on>
It is arrogant to say that war is bad. So lots of people get killed
and maimed, other have their lives severly disrupted, others must
flee into exile. But think about all the good jobs for the people
that make the weapons. Did you think about that? It is arrogant
not to.
<snarky off>

otto

Here is a post I enjoyed about scandal ridden astronaut
Lisa Nowak and her boss Michael Griffin:

NASA CHIEF Does Seinfeld:

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http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/5316f7fecb7a6f35

by Vic

Nowak is an icon for our age - the Bush Age.

NASA Administrator Michael Griffin has a natural
sense for the comedic. As a matter of fact his
photograph tells you that this is a man that can yuk
it up on the turn of a dime and without a billion
dollar budget.

You'll see what I mean here (I kid you not, have a look):http://www.nas=

I immediately knew I would see it in Michael Griffin's
smile when I read this headline yesterday:

NASA chief: We didn't recognize Nowak was troubled

(let that sink in for a moment)

Hello?

"We didn't recognize Nowak was troubled"

It makes me think of that bumper sticker:
"I love my dog".

- Right. Glad you set us straight. We were all
talking about you yesterday and most agreed that
you probably kick your dog, never take it for a walk
and encourage it to bark in the middle of the night.
Thanks again for setting us straight.

Let's hear it again.

"I love my dog".

Thanks.

Ok, funny man, NASA Administrator Michael Griffin, tell
us again.

"We didn't recognize Nowak was troubled".

You know...we were wondering about that. Some had
thought you had sought an outer space crew that
represented a good cross section of America. Perhaps
you did field studies in "what does America look like?"
You concluded that you wanted your crew in space to look
as though it had just been beamed straight up from the
stands of a sports arena. Yup, Anywhere USA.

You needed one of those babes that always manages
to get lifted in the air and riden up the rows of the
stands on the hands of groping, beer-besotted, sweaty
male fans. With the added bonus that it is mirrors
weightlessness in space.

But now we know differently. Thanks for setting us straight.

Perhaps you could make a bumper sticker out of that
for your car. "We didn't recognize Nowak was troubled"
And put it beside the one that says, "I love my dog".

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/03/01/griffin.nowak/index.html?sec...=

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This is the cold hard reality
of our time, and it's time we all understood it. We are all anti-war
at some
level, but the future, like the past, will not allow us to indulge our
fantasies of free peace for long.

This is a very good "history" lesson not just for adults but teens
also

SOME OF YOU ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THAT NEARLY EVERY FAMILY IN
AMERICA WAS GROSSLY AFFECTED BY WW II. MOST OF YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE
RATIONING OF MEAT, SHOES, GASOLINE, AND SUGAR. NO TIRES FOR OUR
AUTOMOBILES,

AND A SPEED LIMIT OF 35 MILES AN HOUR ON THE ROAD, NOT TO MENTION, NO
NEW
AUTOMOBILES. READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE WOULD REACT TO BEING
TAKEN
OVER BY FOREIGNERS IN 2007.

This is an EXCELLENT essay, well thought out and presented.

Historical Significance

Sixty-three years ago, Nazi Germany had overrun almost all of Europe
and
hammered England to the verge of bankruptcy and defeat. The Nazis had
sunk
more than 400 British ships in their convoys between England and
America
taking food and war materials .

At that time the US was in an isolationist, pacifist mood, and most
Americans wanted nothing to do with the European or the Asian war.

Then along came Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, and in outrage
Congress
unanimously declared war on Japan , and the following day on Germany,
who
had not yet attacked us . It was a dicey thing . We had few allies.

France was not an ally, as the Vichy government of France quickly
aligned
itself with its German occupiers . Germany was certainly not an ally,
as
Hitler was intent on setting up a Thousand Year Reich in Europe.
Japan was
not an ally, as it was well on its way to owning and controlling all
of
Asia.

Together, Japan and Germany had long-range plans of invading Canada
and
Mexico , as launching pads to get into the United States over our
northern
and southern borders, after they finished gaining control of Asia and
Europe.

America's only allies then were England, Ireland, Scotland, Canada,
Australia, and Russia. That was about it. All of Europe, from Norway
to
Italy (except Russia in the East) was already under the Nazi heel.

The US was certainly not prepared for war. The US had drastically
downgraded most of its military forces after WW I because of the
depression,

so that at the outbreak of WW II, Army units were training with
broomsticks
because they didn't have guns, and cars with "tank" painted on the
doors
because they didn't have real tanks A huge chunk of our Navy had just
been
sunk or damaged at Pearl Harbor.

Britain had already gone bankrupt, saved only by the donation of $600
million in gold bullion in the Bank of England (that was actually the
property of Belgium) given by Belgium to England to carry on the war
when
Belgium was overrun by Hitler (a little known fact}.

Actually, Belgium surrendered on one day, because it was unable to
oppose
the German invasion, and the Germans bombed Brussels into rubble the
next
day just to prove they could .

Britain had already been holding out for two years in the face of
staggering

losses and the near decimation of its Royal Air Force in the Battle of
Britain, and was saved from being overrun by Germany only because
Hitler
made the mistake of thinking the Brits were a relatively minor threat
that
could be dealt with later. Hitler, first turned his attention to
Russia, in
the late summer of 1940 at a time when England was on the verge of
collapse.

Ironically, Russia saved America's butt by putting up a desperate
fight for
two years, until the US got geared up to begin hammering away at
Germany.

Russia lost something like 24,000,000 people in the sieges of
Stalingrad and
Moscow alone . . . 90% of them from cold and starvation, mostly
civilians,
but also more than a 1,000,000 soldiers

Had Russia surrendered, Hitler would have been able to focus his
entire war
effort against the Brits, then America. If that had happened, the
Nazis
could possibly have won the war.

All of this has been brought out to illustrate that turning points in
history are often dicey things. Now, we find ourselves at another one
of
those key moments in history.

There is a very dangerous minority in Islam that either has, or wants,
and
may soon have, the ability to deliver small nuclear, biological, or
chemical

weapons, almost anywhere in the world.

The Jihadis, the militant Muslims, are basically Nazis in Kaffiyahs --
they
believe that Islam, a radically conservative form of Wahhabi Islam,
should
own and control the Middle East first, then Europe, then the world. To
them,
all who do not bow to their will of thinking should be killed,
enslaved, or
subjugated. They want to finish the Holocaust, destroy Israel, and
purge the
world of Jews. This is their mantra. (goal)

There is also a civil war raging in the Middle East -- for the most
part not

a hot war, but a war of ideas. Islam is having its Inquisition and
its
Reformation, but it is not yet known which side will win -- the
Inquisitors,
or the Reformationists.

If the Inquisition wins, then the Wahhabis, the Jihadis, will control
the
Middle East, the OPEC oil, and the US , European, and Asian economies.
The
techno-industrial economies will be at the mercy of OPEC -- not an
OPEC
dominated by the educated, rational Saudis of today, but an OPEC
dominated
by the Jihadis. Do you want gas in your car? Do you want heating oil
next
winter? Do you want the dollar to be worth anything? You had better
hope
the Jihad, the Muslim Inquisition, loses, and the Islamic Reformation
wins.

If the Reformation movement wins, that is, the moderate Muslims who
believe
that Islam can respect and tolerate other religions, live in peace
with the
rest of the world, and move out of the 10th century into the 21st,
then the
troubles in the Middle East will eventually fade away. A
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