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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Bill"
Date: 28 Feb 2004 02:41:54 PM
Object: National Defence cost
Bush has increased the defense budget by 20%. The United States defense
spending is greater than the total of ALL the other countries of the world
combined.
Why do we waste such huge amounts when there are no other countries in the
world that present a plausible serious threat to the United States?
Iraq certainly did not. It's defense budget was a paltry $1.3 billion
compared to the present U.S. budget of $407 billion.
When the Soviet Union was threatening us we needed a strong defense. There
is no longer a Soviet Union - only a greatly shrunken and weak Russia. Today
there are no nations that present any plausible serious threat to the United
States.
The Home Land security budget has been substantially increased to counter
the threat from Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda's threat is terrorism - not military
attack.
--
Bill Mech
wmech@att.net
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User: "Darsh"

Title: Re: National Defence cost 28 Feb 2004 06:24:10 PM
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Bush has increased the defense budget by 20%. The United States defense
spending is greater than the total of ALL the other countries of the world
combined.

20% from what? Why don't you study this graph a bit. Even without the
estimates, you can see what has happened to Defense Spending. Who cares if
it is more than "ALL" the countries. You are incredulous about it for what
reason?


Why do we waste such huge amounts when there are no other countries in the
world that present a plausible serious threat to the United States?

There are MANY "plausible" threats. Threat is probable. This is simply
factual. In the natural world, what is at the top, must come down. It is
the natural order of things as we know it. You will never know when the
armies of the world save the world, but you will know it when they don't.


Iraq certainly did not. It's defense budget was a paltry $1.3 billion
compared to the present U.S. budget of $407 billion.

Iraq is just a piece of the East. Iraq was at the end of diplomacy. It was
a natural transgression. After Afghanistan, Bush felt the need to "tighten
the reigns" so to speak. The UN did back the intelligence no matter what
fuddy-duddy old guy(s) put it together. At the point of any intel that Bush
and Co. gleened, it was too late. There was not an impartial researcher
left considering years of Iraqi intelligence gathering.


When the Soviet Union was threatening us we needed a strong defense. There
is no longer a Soviet Union - only a greatly shrunken and weak Russia.

Today

there are no nations that present any plausible serious threat to the

United

States.

There are still several thousand nukes in the "shrunken and weak Russia".
Again, to say there is no "plausible" serious threat is something that is
factually wrong. It can't even be argued. It is impossible for there to
not be a plausible threat.


The Home Land security budget has been substantially increased to counter
the threat from Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda's threat is terrorism - not military
attack.

You just never know now do ya?
A strong military is a good thing for the US, and it is a good thing for the
world.
darsh


--
Bill Mech
wmech@att.net


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User: "Steven Litvintchouk"

Title: Re: National Defence cost 28 Feb 2004 08:20:38 PM
Darsh wrote:

"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:m270c.113205$hR.2185486@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Bush has increased the defense budget by 20%. The United States defense
spending is greater than the total of ALL the other countries of the world
combined.



20% from what? Why don't you study this graph a bit.

What graph???
-- Steven L.
.
User: "Darsh"

Title: Re: National Defence cost 28 Feb 2004 08:46:29 PM
"Steven Litvintchouk" <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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Darsh wrote:

"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:m270c.113205$hR.2185486@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Bush has increased the defense budget by 20%. The United States defense
spending is greater than the total of ALL the other countries of the

world

combined.



20% from what? Why don't you study this graph a bit.


What graph???

Hmm, graph? you mean that graph? The one that...
BAH! What happened to my graph! Grrrrr! hehe
Try this:
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/pd/gif/pd41299.gif
Thanks for the help.
darsh


-- Steven L.

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User: "Steven Litvintchouk"

Title: Re: National Defence cost 29 Feb 2004 11:27:38 AM
Darsh wrote:

"Steven Litvintchouk" <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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Darsh wrote:


"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:m270c.113205$hR.2185486@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...


Bush has increased the defense budget by 20%. The United States defense
spending is greater than the total of ALL the other countries of the


world

combined.



20% from what? Why don't you study this graph a bit.


What graph???



Hmm, graph? you mean that graph? The one that...

BAH! What happened to my graph! Grrrrr! hehe

Try this:

http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/pd/gif/pd41299.gif

yes, that's a keeper.
I had a similar line graph that showed it for all years (not just every
4 years as yours did), but I don't have it anymore. You can probably
search Google for my posts on that topic in which I cited it.
-- Steven L.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: National Defence cost 29 Feb 2004 10:13:49 AM
Too bad the Defense budget is'nt twice as big as it is!
We should cancel all the bull ***** "social" programs you lazy, freeloading
leftist bums suck a living from, and spend the money on something useful.
Your choice? Starve of go to work. Join the military and do something useful
for a change.
"Darsh" <bill@billyo.com> wrote in message
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"Steven Litvintchouk" <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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Darsh wrote:

"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:m270c.113205$hR.2185486@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Bush has increased the defense budget by 20%. The United States

defense

spending is greater than the total of ALL the other countries of the

world

combined.



20% from what? Why don't you study this graph a bit.


What graph???


Hmm, graph? you mean that graph? The one that...

BAH! What happened to my graph! Grrrrr! hehe

Try this:

http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/pd/gif/pd41299.gif

Thanks for the help.

darsh



-- Steven L.



.
User: "OutsourceBush2004"

Title: Re: National Defence cost 29 Feb 2004 10:32:01 AM
<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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Too bad the Defense budget is'nt twice as big as it is!

We should cancel all the bull ***** "social" programs you lazy, freeloading
leftist bums suck a living from, and spend the money on something useful.

Your choice? Starve of go to work. Join the military and do something

useful

for a change.

You're a trolling idiot.
--
During the last election cycle, while Frist headed the NRSC, the health care
industry increased its contributions to Republican candidates to just under
$ 4 million and became the largest industry contributor to the party.
“If you look at the money involved, it would be easy to say the medical
industry has bought itself a Senator and, now, a Senate,” says Harleigh.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_1470.shtml


"Darsh" <bill@billyo.com> wrote in message
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"Steven Litvintchouk" <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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Darsh wrote:

"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:m270c.113205$hR.2185486@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Bush has increased the defense budget by 20%. The United States

defense

spending is greater than the total of ALL the other countries of the

world

combined.



20% from what? Why don't you study this graph a bit.


What graph???


Hmm, graph? you mean that graph? The one that...

BAH! What happened to my graph! Grrrrr! hehe

Try this:

http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/pd/gif/pd41299.gif

Thanks for the help.

darsh



-- Steven L.





.
User: "Darsh"

Title: Re: National Defence cost 29 Feb 2004 04:11:34 PM
"OutsourceBush2004" <outsourcebush@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
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<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1do0c.4133$kI1.4066@fe2.columbus.rr.com...

Too bad the Defense budget is'nt twice as big as it is!

We should cancel all the bull ***** "social" programs you lazy,

freeloading

leftist bums suck a living from, and spend the money on something

useful.


Your choice? Starve of go to work. Join the military and do something

useful

for a change.


You're a trolling idiot.

He must be if you say so. Afterall, your emotion becomes pure fact the
minute you have it right?
darsh



--
During the last election cycle, while Frist headed the NRSC, the health

care

industry increased its contributions to Republican candidates to just

under

$ 4 million and became the largest industry contributor to the party.

"If you look at the money involved, it would be easy to say the medical
industry has bought itself a Senator and, now, a Senate," says Harleigh.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_1470.shtml




"Darsh" <bill@billyo.com> wrote in message
news:9oc0c.143661$jk2.573551@attbi_s53...


"Steven Litvintchouk" <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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Darsh wrote:

"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:m270c.113205$hR.2185486@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Bush has increased the defense budget by 20%. The United States

defense

spending is greater than the total of ALL the other countries of

the

world

combined.



20% from what? Why don't you study this graph a bit.


What graph???


Hmm, graph? you mean that graph? The one that...

BAH! What happened to my graph! Grrrrr! hehe

Try this:

http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/pd/gif/pd41299.gif

Thanks for the help.

darsh



-- Steven L.







.

User: "notritenotteri"

Title: Re: National Defence cost 01 Mar 2004 03:15:37 PM
no he's not. He's not smart enough to be an idiot. He's more your
pond scum he's one of them peace time draftees who managed to do his
time before the sausage machine started in Nam funny he never
re-upped.
"OutsourceBush2004" <outsourcebush@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
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<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1do0c.4133$kI1.4066@fe2.columbus.rr.com...

Too bad the Defense budget is'nt twice as big as it is!

We should cancel all the bull ***** "social" programs you lazy,

freeloading

leftist bums suck a living from, and spend the money on something

useful.


Your choice? Starve of go to work. Join the military and do

something

useful

for a change.


You're a trolling idiot.


--
During the last election cycle, while Frist headed the NRSC, the

health care

industry increased its contributions to Republican candidates to

just under

$ 4 million and became the largest industry contributor to the

party.


“If you look at the money involved, it would be easy to say the

medical

industry has bought itself a Senator and, now, a Senate,” says

Harleigh.


http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_1470.shtml




"Darsh" <bill@billyo.com> wrote in message
news:9oc0c.143661$jk2.573551@attbi_s53...


"Steven Litvintchouk" <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in

message

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Darsh wrote:

"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

news:m270c.113205$hR.2185486@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...


Bush has increased the defense budget by 20%. The United

States

defense

spending is greater than the total of ALL the other

countries of the

world

combined.



20% from what? Why don't you study this graph a bit.


What graph???


Hmm, graph? you mean that graph? The one that...

BAH! What happened to my graph! Grrrrr! hehe

Try this:

http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/pd/gif/pd41299.gif

Thanks for the help.

darsh



-- Steven L.







.






User: "Steven Litvintchouk"

Title: Re: National Defence cost 28 Feb 2004 06:41:05 PM
Bill wrote:

Bush has increased the defense budget by 20%. The United States defense
spending is greater than the total of ALL the other countries of the world
combined.

Why do we waste such huge amounts when there are no other countries in the
world that present a plausible serious threat to the United States?

We *spend* such huge amounts so that:
If necessary, like after 9-11, the U.S. can field an armed force
thousands of miles away and go to all-out war within a matter of weeks.
The U.S. can strike any nation on earth in every continent on earth
within weeks of deciding to do so.
No other nation on earth can project its power all around the world on
such short notice.
-- Steven L.
.

User: "GW Chimpzilla"

Title: Re: National Defence cost 28 Feb 2004 02:47:26 PM
Bill wrote:

Bush has increased the defense budget by 20%. The United States defense
spending is greater than the total of ALL the other countries of the world
combined.

Half of the US armed forces are overseas 'defending' corporate trade rights.


Why do we waste such huge amounts when there are no other countries in the
world that present a plausible serious threat to the United States?

Iraq certainly did not. It's defense budget was a paltry $1.3 billion
compared to the present U.S. budget of $407 billion.

When the Soviet Union was threatening us we needed a strong defense. There
is no longer a Soviet Union - only a greatly shrunken and weak Russia. Today
there are no nations that present any plausible serious threat to the United
States.

The Home Land security budget has been substantially increased to counter
the threat from Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda's threat is terrorism - not military
attack.

.


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