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"Your Special Friend" |
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23 Sep 2003 12:02:28 PM |
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National Security: Off The Radar |
http://www.baselinemag.com/article2/0,3959,1253246,00.asp
September 5, 2003
Leaping, Then Looking
National Security: Off The Radar
By Larry Dignan
The loss of high-paying jobs to other countries isn't viewed as a
national security issue yet, but that may change.
If information technology is increasingly moved offshore, the
Department of Defense may take a closer look, say analysts. Why? The
U.S. military is increasingly relying on information systems and if
that technology can't be procured domestically, it may raise issues.
Lt. Col. Ken McClellan, a Pentagon press officer, says the military is
looking at the issue, especially when partners use offshore
outsourcing. Offshore workers will also need to pass security tests.
McClellan says the National Security Agency is examining the topic.
The NSA declined to comment.
With high-value jobs moving elsewhere, the government could lose an
estimated $13.4 billion in tax revenue over five years, according to
Economy.com. The Department of Homeland Security's estimated 2004
budget is $41.3 billion, including the homeland portion of the defense
budget.
On an annualized basis, that $13.4 billion works out to about $2.7
billion—or nearly two-thirds of the $4.22 billion that the Bush
administration has proposed to spend on aviation security in fiscal
2004. It's twice the $6.6 billion the Coast Guard estimates it would
take over 10 years to protect U.S. ports from terrorism.
Ronil Hira, associate professor at the Rochester Institute of
Technology, says defense interest in offshore outsourcing would
reshape the debate. The military has a long history of protecting
technologies it sees in the national interest, such as chip
manufacturing, encryption software and supercomputers.
Unlike those technologies, the Pentagon would have to deem specific
roles or jobs such as engineering in the national interest. It could
also limit partners' offshore activities, says Hira.
"It's interesting that the defense department hasn't been paying more
attention here," says Hira.
Gartner Inc. analyst Richard Hunter says if the U.S. loses its
leadership in critical technology it would cause concern, but
downplays the national security significance. Hunter says the Pentagon
would still be able to procure technology even if it was developed
offshore.
"If we assume the only way it's absolutely safe is to have leadership
in every critical technology, then offshore outsourcing may become an
issue," says Hunter. "But that argument is unproven at this time and
assumes everyone in the world is out to get us." Hunter says it's
unlikely the U.S. would become dependent on one nation for information
technology. Unlike oil, controlled by a few countries that happen to
have good geography, the U.S. could procure technology from anywhere.
If India became dominant in technology, it would be in its economic
interest to cater to the U.S. "The day India's technology was seen as
a weapon, America would stop buying it," says Hunter.
Instead of being hampered by such a move, the U.S. could use the
global supply chain. "Information technology is an international
language and it has to be, in order to be usable," says Hunter. "There
would be a large cadre of resources available in other countries. If
you can speak C++ you can be a supplier. It's not like oil. Technology
by definition doesn't have borders."
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| User: "Sparky" |
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| Title: Re: National Security: Off The Radar |
23 Sep 2003 08:04:28 PM |
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"Your Special Friend" <ybf@ziplip.com> wrote in message
news:1214fb08.0309230902.7857736@posting.google.com...
http://www.baselinemag.com/article2/0,3959,1253246,00.asp
Gartner Inc. analyst Richard Hunter says if the U.S. loses its
leadership in critical technology it would cause concern, but
downplays the national security significance. Hunter says the Pentagon
would still be able to procure technology even if it was developed
offshore.
"If we assume the only way it's absolutely safe is to have leadership
in every critical technology, then offshore outsourcing may become an
issue," says Hunter. "But that argument is unproven at this time and
assumes everyone in the world is out to get us." Hunter says it's
unlikely the U.S. would become dependent on one nation for information
technology. Unlike oil, controlled by a few countries that happen to
have good geography, the U.S. could procure technology from anywhere.
If India became dominant in technology, it would be in its economic
interest to cater to the U.S. "The day India's technology was seen as
a weapon, America would stop buying it," says Hunter.
Instead of being hampered by such a move, the U.S. could use the
global supply chain. "Information technology is an international
language and it has to be, in order to be usable," says Hunter. "There
would be a large cadre of resources available in other countries. If
you can speak C++ you can be a supplier. It's not like oil. Technology
by definition doesn't have borders."
Now, here is a guy that has probably not spent a single day in uniform!
As a person who spent several years in uniform and even more years
developing embedded systems for the military, I can honestly say this guy
doesn't know ***** about weapon systems or classified projects! He gets my
vote for front-line service after we outsource all of our weapon systems!
:-)
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| User: "Tim Keating" |
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| Title: Re: National Security: Off The Radar |
23 Sep 2003 12:21:45 PM |
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On 23 Sep 2003 10:02:28 -0700, (Your Special Friend)
wrote:
http://www.baselinemag.com/article2/0,3959,1253246,00.asp
September 5, 2003
Leaping, Then Looking
National Security: Off The Radar
By Larry Dignan
The loss of high-paying jobs to other countries isn't viewed as a
national security issue yet, but that may change.
If information technology is increasingly moved offshore, the
Department of Defense may take a closer look, say analysts. Why? The
U.S. military is increasingly relying on information systems and if
that technology can't be procured domestically, it may raise issues.
Lt. Col. Ken McClellan, a Pentagon press officer, says the military is
looking at the issue, especially when partners use offshore
outsourcing. Offshore workers will also need to pass security tests.
McClellan says the National Security Agency is examining the topic.
The NSA declined to comment.
With high-value jobs moving elsewhere, the government could lose an
estimated $13.4 billion in tax revenue over five years, according to
Economy.com. The Department of Homeland Security's estimated 2004
budget is $41.3 billion, including the homeland portion of the defense
budget.
Bzzzt.. They missed the secondary effects on industry wide wages and
under estimated trickle down effect... 5x... maybe more..
Secondary effect of depressing industry wide wages..
-20,000$/yr times 4, 5 million, maybe more tech workers.
That's -100 billion for secondary effect, times appropriate trickle
down.
Total is getting up in the 800 billion dollar per year range.
Federal tax hit, take 25% of that or -200 B.
Let's see..
Actual federal Tax revenues dropped from 2011 B(FY00) to
~1770(FY03P). -241 B. Hmmm.
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| User: "Tim Keating" |
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| Title: Re: National Security: Off The Radar |
23 Sep 2003 12:47:58 PM |
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:21:45 -0400, Tim Keating
<NotForJunkEmail@directinternet11.com1> wrote:
On 23 Sep 2003 10:02:28 -0700, (Your Special Friend)
wrote:
http://www.baselinemag.com/article2/0,3959,1253246,00.asp
September 5, 2003
Leaping, Then Looking
National Security: Off The Radar
By Larry Dignan
The loss of high-paying jobs to other countries isn't viewed as a
national security issue yet, but that may change.
If information technology is increasingly moved offshore, the
Department of Defense may take a closer look, say analysts. Why? The
U.S. military is increasingly relying on information systems and if
that technology can't be procured domestically, it may raise issues.
Lt. Col. Ken McClellan, a Pentagon press officer, says the military is
looking at the issue, especially when partners use offshore
outsourcing. Offshore workers will also need to pass security tests.
McClellan says the National Security Agency is examining the topic.
The NSA declined to comment.
With high-value jobs moving elsewhere, the government could lose an
estimated $13.4 billion in tax revenue over five years, according to
Economy.com. The Department of Homeland Security's estimated 2004
http://www.economy.com/home/about/clients.asp
Enough said..
budget is $41.3 billion, including the homeland portion of the defense
budget.
Bzzzt.. They missed the secondary effects on industry wide wages and
under estimated trickle down effect... 5x... maybe more..
Secondary effect of depressing industry wide wages..
-20,000$/yr times 4, 5 million, maybe more tech workers.
That's -100 billion for secondary effect, times appropriate trickle
down.
Total is getting up in the 800 billion dollar per year range.
Federal tax hit, take 25% of that or -200 B.
Let's see..
Actual federal Tax revenues dropped from 2011 B(FY00) to
~1770(FY03P). -241 B. Hmmm.
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