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User: "Black Elk"
Date: 19 Feb 2005 08:02:07 AM
Object: Native Americans returning home to worse than what they left in Iraq.
washingtonpost.com
Native Americans Back From Iraq Decry Cutback
By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 17, 2005
Saying that conditions in Indian country are worse than conditions in Iraq,
two Native American war veterans spoke out yesterday against the Bush
administration's plan to cut millions of dollars from a fund that helps
build houses on reservations.
Former Army specialist Gerald Dupris, 22, described his mother's
neighborhood inside the Cheyenne River Reservation in Eagle Butte, S.D., as
"a lot worse than what I left in the military in Iraq."
Dupris said lawmakers reviewing the president's budget "should realize that
a lot of Native veterans return home to worse than what they left. They
should realize what we've done for this country, and give back to the Native
reservation."
Native Americans represent less than 1 percent of the population, yet they
make up about 1.6 percent of the armed forces, according to Defense
Department statistics. Pfc. Lori Piestewa, 23, a Hopi Indian who served with
the 507th Maintenance Company in Iraq, was the first female U.S. soldier to
die in combat.
Between 2002 and 2004, the housing appropriations for Native Americans and
Native Hawaiians hovered at about $650 million. But last year, budget
cutters started chipping money away.
In fiscal 2005, the administration asked for $647 million and Congress
approved $25 million less than that. For fiscal 2006, President Bush has
asked for $582 million, alarming Native American housing advocates.
"The president's preaching fiscal responsibility, and in the same breath
he's asking for $82 billion for Iraq," said Chester Carl, chief executive
officer of the Navajo Housing Authority in Window Rock, Ariz. Indians "are
over there sacrificing their lives to improve the lives of our enemy, yet
they come back to conditions that are worse. There are no jobs, there's no
housing."
Carl is also chairman of the National American Indian Housing Council, which
sponsored the news conference with Dupris and another Native American
soldier, Staff Sgt. Julius Tulley.
The Bush administration painted a more positive picture. During testimony
yesterday before the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, Michael Liu,
assistant secretary for public and Indian housing at the Department of
Housing and Urban Development, said: "Tribes are taking advantage of new
opportunities to improve the housing conditions of the Native American
families residing on Indian reservations."
Liu acknowledged that the fiscal 2006 budget "is tight," but he said that it
"also recognizes the low-income housing needs in Native American
communities." The budget increases the budget authority for a loan-guarantee
program, and HUD will work to leverage federal dollars with private
investments for both rental housing and homeownership, Liu said.
But that good news is not apparent on the ground, said Tulley, who served in
Baghdad with a reserve engineering battalion. During his first days in Iraq,
Tulley said other soldiers griped about living in tents, hauling drinking
water, eating tasteless food rations and not being able to shower, watch
television or access the Internet.
But "it didn't take long" for Navajos to adapt to that life, said Tulley,
41, of Blue Gap, Ariz., the heart of Navajo country. "We were used to it. I
thought, 'What are you complaining about?' . . . What they missed, it was
nothing to us."
Blue Gap is "where you see a lot of poverty," he said.
"I'm not here to bash my commander in chief," Tulley said. "Nor am I here to
speak out against the military. I'm here to say that I've gone to war. I put
my life on the line. My brothers put their lives on the line. I want to say,
'Look, I've done my part. My family's done their part. Now I want something
in return.' "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A30683-2005Feb16?language=printer
--
Words mean nothing -- nothing to George Bush. They are just utterances. They
have no meaning. Bush can say again and again, "well, we don't do torture."
We know what happened. We know about Abu Ghraib. We know, we see
anecdotally.
http://www.democracynow.org/print.pl?sid=05/01/26/1450204
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User: "Bill J"

Title: Re: Native Americans returning home to worse than what they left in Iraq. 19 Feb 2005 02:13:01 PM
"Black Elk" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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washingtonpost.com

Native Americans Back From Iraq Decry Cutback

By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 17, 2005

Saying that conditions in Indian country are worse than conditions in

Iraq,

two Native American war veterans spoke out yesterday against the Bush
administration's plan to cut millions of dollars from a fund that helps
build houses on reservations.

It's a bit hard to understand Native Americans poverty when the Indian
casino's in California just surpassed the income generated from Nevada
casinos last year. Let them install slot machines and earn it the old
fashion way.
Bill J.
.
User: "Tian Harter"

Title: Re: Native Americans returning home to worse than what they leftin Iraq. 20 Feb 2005 02:43:08 AM
Bill J wrote:

"Black Elk" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1108821732.85246b163e153eb3451b1d87f14a9473@teranews...

washingtonpost.com

Native Americans Back From Iraq Decry Cutback

By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 17, 2005

Saying that conditions in Indian country are worse than conditions in


Iraq,

two Native American war veterans spoke out yesterday against the Bush
administration's plan to cut millions of dollars from a fund that helps
build houses on reservations.



It's a bit hard to understand Native Americans poverty when the Indian
casino's in California just surpassed the income generated from Nevada
casinos last year. Let them install slot machines and earn it the old
fashion way.

Bill J.


Navajo country is not exactly downtown L.A. you know...
--
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
I've been on the freeway enough times to
know it is a far better thing to be passed
by the law than it is to pass the law.
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User: "Furious George"

Title: Re: Native Americans returning home to worse than what they left in Iraq. 19 Feb 2005 09:44:45 AM
Black Elk wrote:

washingtonpost.com

Native Americans Back From Iraq Decry Cutback

By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 17, 2005

Saying that conditions in Indian country are worse than conditions in

Iraq,

two Native American war veterans spoke out yesterday against the Bush
administration's plan to cut millions of dollars from a fund that

helps

build houses on reservations.

This is what Bush means by "Native American Sovereignty."


Former Army specialist Gerald Dupris, 22, described his mother's
neighborhood inside the Cheyenne River Reservation in Eagle Butte,

S.D., as

"a lot worse than what I left in the military in Iraq."

Dupris said lawmakers reviewing the president's budget "should

realize that

a lot of Native veterans return home to worse than what they left.

They

should realize what we've done for this country, and give back to the

Native

reservation."

Native Americans represent less than 1 percent of the population, yet

they

make up about 1.6 percent of the armed forces, according to Defense
Department statistics. Pfc. Lori Piestewa, 23, a Hopi Indian who

served with

the 507th Maintenance Company in Iraq, was the first female U.S.

soldier to

die in combat.

Between 2002 and 2004, the housing appropriations for Native

Americans and

Native Hawaiians hovered at about $650 million. But last year, budget
cutters started chipping money away.

In fiscal 2005, the administration asked for $647 million and

Congress

approved $25 million less than that. For fiscal 2006, President Bush

has

asked for $582 million, alarming Native American housing advocates.

"The president's preaching fiscal responsibility, and in the same

breath

he's asking for $82 billion for Iraq," said Chester Carl, chief

executive

officer of the Navajo Housing Authority in Window Rock, Ariz. Indians

"are

over there sacrificing their lives to improve the lives of our enemy,

yet

they come back to conditions that are worse. There are no jobs,

there's no

housing."

Carl is also chairman of the National American Indian Housing

Council, which

sponsored the news conference with Dupris and another Native American
soldier, Staff Sgt. Julius Tulley.

The Bush administration painted a more positive picture. During

testimony

yesterday before the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, Michael Liu,
assistant secretary for public and Indian housing at the Department

of

Housing and Urban Development, said: "Tribes are taking advantage of

new

opportunities to improve the housing conditions of the Native

American

families residing on Indian reservations."

Liu acknowledged that the fiscal 2006 budget "is tight," but he said

that it

"also recognizes the low-income housing needs in Native American
communities." The budget increases the budget authority for a

loan-guarantee

program, and HUD will work to leverage federal dollars with private
investments for both rental housing and homeownership, Liu said.

But that good news is not apparent on the ground, said Tulley, who

served in

Baghdad with a reserve engineering battalion. During his first days

in Iraq,

Tulley said other soldiers griped about living in tents, hauling

drinking

water, eating tasteless food rations and not being able to shower,

watch

television or access the Internet.

But "it didn't take long" for Navajos to adapt to that life, said

Tulley,

41, of Blue Gap, Ariz., the heart of Navajo country. "We were used to

it. I

thought, 'What are you complaining about?' . . . What they missed, it

was

nothing to us."

Blue Gap is "where you see a lot of poverty," he said.

"I'm not here to bash my commander in chief," Tulley said. "Nor am I

here to

speak out against the military. I'm here to say that I've gone to

war. I put

my life on the line. My brothers put their lives on the line. I want

to say,

'Look, I've done my part. My family's done their part. Now I want

something

in return.' "


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A30683-2005Feb16?language=printer


--
Words mean nothing -- nothing to George Bush. They are just

utterances. They

have no meaning. Bush can say again and again, "well, we don't do

torture."

We know what happened. We know about Abu Ghraib. We know, we see
anecdotally.

http://www.democracynow.org/print.pl?sid=05/01/26/1450204

=====================================

The fair use of a copyrighted work:

In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this

site

is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior

interest

in receiving the included information for research and educational

purposes.

For more information go to:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.
.

User: "Werner Hetzner"

Title: Re: Native Americans returning home to worse than what they leftin Iraq. 19 Feb 2005 09:20:57 AM
Black Elk wrote:

washingtonpost.com

Native Americans Back From Iraq Decry Cutback

By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 17, 2005

Saying that conditions in Indian country are worse than conditions in Iraq,
two Native American war veterans spoke out yesterday against the Bush
administration's plan to cut millions of dollars from a fund that helps
build houses on reservations.

....
Whenever anyone is to get less from the treasury they squak.
Dollars in the common treasury are like fish in the common sea - anyone
who can will harvest to extinction. That is why socialism is
fundamentally corrupting and can not work. ----
.
User: "Black Elk"

Title: Re: Native Americans returning home to worse than what they left in Iraq. 19 Feb 2005 09:27:21 AM
"Werner Hetzner" <whetzner@mac.com> wrote in message
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Black Elk wrote:

washingtonpost.com

Native Americans Back From Iraq Decry Cutback

By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 17, 2005

Saying that conditions in Indian country are worse than conditions in
Iraq, two Native American war veterans spoke out yesterday against the
Bush administration's plan to cut millions of dollars from a fund that
helps build houses on reservations.

...

Whenever anyone is to get less from the treasury they squak.

Especially those living in poverty while Bush gives tax cuts to corporations
and the wealthy.
--
The number of uninsured Americans increased by 5 million over the past four
years and the government announced last month that Medicare premiums will
increase in January by a record amount in dollar terms of $11.60 per month.
http://tinyurl.com/5alrj
--
Words mean nothing -- nothing to George Bush. They are just utterances. They
have no meaning. Bush can say again and again, "well, we don't do torture."
We know what happened. We know about Abu Ghraib. We know, we see
anecdotally.
http://www.democracynow.org/print.pl?sid=05/01/26/1450204
.
User: "Werner Hetzner"

Title: Re: Native Americans returning home to worse than what they leftin Iraq. 19 Feb 2005 09:51:33 PM
Black Elk wrote:

"Werner Hetzner" <whetzner@mac.com> wrote in message
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Black Elk wrote:



washingtonpost.com

Native Americans Back From Iraq Decry Cutback

By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 17, 2005

Saying that conditions in Indian country are worse than conditions in
Iraq, two Native American war veterans spoke out yesterday against the
Bush administration's plan to cut millions of dollars from a fund that
helps build houses on reservations.



...

Whenever anyone is to get less from the treasury they squak.



Especially those living in poverty while Bush gives tax cuts to corporations
and the wealthy.

The wealth pay most of the taxes. Corporations don't pay taxes, they
just forced to collect it from the customers and give it to the gov.
.
User: "Tian Harter"

Title: Re: Native Americans returning home to worse than what they leftin Iraq. 20 Feb 2005 02:40:37 AM
Werner Hetzner wrote:



Black Elk wrote:

"Werner Hetzner" <whetzner@mac.com> wrote in message
news:4217596C.808@mac.com...


Black Elk wrote:



washingtonpost.com

Native Americans Back From Iraq Decry Cutback

By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 17, 2005

Saying that conditions in Indian country are worse than conditions
in Iraq, two Native American war veterans spoke out yesterday
against the Bush administration's plan to cut millions of dollars
from a fund that helps build houses on reservations.



...

Whenever anyone is to get less from the treasury they squak.



Especially those living in poverty while Bush gives tax cuts to
corporations and the wealthy.


The wealth pay most of the taxes. Corporations don't pay taxes, they
just forced to collect it from the customers and give it to the gov.



Ummm... I think the middle class pays more than you think.
--
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
I've been on the freeway enough times to
know it is a far better thing to be passed
by the law than it is to pass the law.
.
User: "Werner Hetzner"

Title: Re: Native Americans returning home to worse than what they leftin Iraq. 20 Feb 2005 09:09:23 AM
Tian Harter wrote:

Werner Hetzner wrote:

...



Especially those living in poverty while Bush gives tax cuts to
corporations and the wealthy.


The wealth pay most of the taxes. Corporations don't pay taxes, they
just forced to collect it from the customers and give it to the gov.



Ummm... I think the middle class pays more than you think.

http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=6
http://taxpolicycenter.org/TaxFacts/Tfdb/TFTemplate.cfm?DocID=224&Topic2id=20&Topic3id=22



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