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Topic:	Politics > Politics-USA
User:	"Robert Henderson"
Date:	31 Dec 2004 05:09:11 AM
Object:	Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists

For more than twenty years Third World disasters, natural and manmade,
have been used by the liberal bigot elite as an engine to drive the
internationalist agenda. We have now reached the stage where the media,
especially broadcasters, feed the public with what is virtually a
continuous diet of Third World woe accompanied by exhortations for the
West to do more and more to make up for their terrible sin of being
richer and successful.
This trait is now reaching its mature stage as politicians and
mediafolk increasing call for supranational action to "deal with the
problem" left by Third World disasters, taxpayers' money in the West
is given away without any democratic control being exercised and the
media censors out anyone who wishes to question the internationalist
propaganda. .
A significant natural disaster will occur somewhere in the world with
great regularity - finding one a month on average would not be
difficult. The developed world deals with them competently, vide North
America which regularly meets with the type of natural phenomenon that
devastates the Third World. Nothing the West can do will aid the Third
World in this because the problem is social and structural - there is
plenty of money in the Third World but their governments do not
generally have either the will or the ability to take even rudimentary
steps to prevent the worst effects of events such as tidal waves.
Manmade disasters through Third World wars or government negligence or
oppression are always with us. Nothing the West can do will change
that.
RH
--
Robert Henderson
philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk
Blair Scandal web site at http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal web site at http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
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User: "Steve Frazer"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	01 Jan 2005 03:00:20 AM

"JohnJ" <jj_aber@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Robert Henderson <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> WROTE:

Only to the liberal bigot mind.

"Liberal" = Showing or characterized by broad-mindedness

"Bigot" = A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions
differing from his own.

So there can't be such a thing as a "liberal bigot", can there?

Nooooo, don't bring up this again. Rab will trot out his usual nonsense to
make it look like he invented the phrase even though it was actually used in
Dune way before he ever thought of it! (And even then it doesn't make any
sense)
--
Steve Frazer
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steve_frazer/index.html
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User: "JohnJ"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	01 Jan 2005 05:48:48 AM

"Steve Frazer" <stevefrazer@spamfreeworld.com> WROTE:

"JohnJ" <jj_aber@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Robert Henderson <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> WROTE:

Only to the liberal bigot mind.

Too late - RH has already responded! And you're right, the phrase
still doesn't make any sense.
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User: "Robert Henderson"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	01 Jan 2005 10:12:46 AM

In article <mf3dt0d7efqbvq0ti68kp3dlgcjcdbv042@4ax.com>, JohnJ
<jj_aber@hotmail.com> writes

Too late - RH has already responded! And you're right, the phrase
still doesn't make any sense.

Modern liberals have corrupted liberalism by moving to a position
whereby they say only one opinion - the politically correct one - is
acceptable in politics. In addition, political correctness is
irrational because it denies reality. RH
--
Robert Henderson
philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk
Blair Scandal web site at http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal web site at http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
.

User: "Aardvark"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	01 Jan 2005 10:21:07 AM

"Robert Henderson" <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0QizugA+vs1BFwwk@anywhere.demon.co.uk...

In article <mf3dt0d7efqbvq0ti68kp3dlgcjcdbv042@4ax.com>, JohnJ
<jj_aber@hotmail.com> writes

Too late - RH has already responded! And you're right, the phrase
still doesn't make any sense.

Modern liberals have corrupted liberalism by moving to a position
whereby they say only one opinion - the politically correct one - is
acceptable in politics.

Who has ever said that?

In addition, political correctness is
irrational because it denies reality. RH

Utter nonsense.

--
Robert Henderson
philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk
Blair Scandal web site at http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal web site at http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

User: ""
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	07 Jan 2005 10:22:23 AM

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 16:12:46 +0000, Robert Henderson
<Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Too late - RH has already responded! And you're right, the phrase
still doesn't make any sense.

Modern liberals have corrupted liberalism by moving to a position
whereby they say only one opinion - the politically correct one - is
acceptable in politics.

There are enough people for whom this is accurate that the phrase
'liberal bigot' carries meaning

In addition, political correctness is irrational because it denies reality. RH

As do all caricatures. So what?
--
cheers
www.libraryofalex.com
Wherever book may be burned, men also, in the end, are burned
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User: "Harold"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	07 Jan 2005 07:33:25 AM

Robert Henderson wrote:

In article <mf3dt0d7efqbvq0ti68kp3dlgcjcdbv042@4ax.com>, JohnJ
<jj_aber@hotmail.com> writes

Too late - RH has already responded! And you're right, the phrase
still doesn't make any sense.

Essentially, most of what goes by the name of political correctness is a
set of urban myths made up by the loonie toons of the far right.
There's a similar set about the EU too.
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User: "Robert Henderson"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	01 Jan 2005 04:43:24 AM

In article <33n834F42k7noU2@individual.net>, Steve Frazer <stevefrazer@s
pamfreeworld.com> writes

Do stop telling lies and squirm back into your hole, creature. RH
--
Robert Henderson
philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk
Blair Scandal web site at http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal web site at http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
.

User: "Steve Frazer"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	01 Jan 2005 01:08:37 PM

"Robert Henderson" <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:s7uFkTAM7n1BFwBi@anywhere.demon.co.uk...

In article <33n834F42k7noU2@individual.net>, Steve Frazer <stevefrazer@s
pamfreeworld.com> writes

Nooooo, don't bring up this again. Rab will trot out his usual nonsense

make it look like he invented the phrase even though it was actually used

Dune way before he ever thought of it! (And even then it doesn't make

any

sense)
--

Do stop telling lies and squirm back into your hole, creature. RH

Lies? Dune 4 - God Emperor (1981) "...Liberal bigots are the ones who
trouble me the most."
I think there is little else to say, except maybe "plagiarism"!
--
Steve Frazer
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steve_frazer/index.html
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User: "Robert Henderson"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	02 Jan 2005 02:30:10 AM

In article <33ob2bF40l41qU1@individual.net>, Steve Frazer <stevefrazer@s
pamfreeworld.com> writes

any

sense)
--

Do stop telling lies and squirm back into your hole, creature. RH

Lies? Dune 4 - God Emperor (1981) "...Liberal bigots are the ones who
trouble me the most."

I think there is little else to say, except maybe "plagiarism"!
--

For a creature like you there would be little more to say because you
cannot imagine that two people can construct the same idea
independently. RH
--
Robert Henderson
philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk
Blair Scandal web site at http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal web site at http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
.

User: "Steve Frazer"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	02 Jan 2005 10:56:06 AM

"Robert Henderson" <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:aHJIb2ASE71BFwl4@anywhere.demon.co.uk...

In article <33ob2bF40l41qU1@individual.net>, Steve Frazer <stevefrazer@s
pamfreeworld.com> writes

any

sense)
--

Do stop telling lies and squirm back into your hole, creature. RH

Lies? Dune 4 - God Emperor (1981) "...Liberal bigots are the ones who
trouble me the most."

I think there is little else to say, except maybe "plagiarism"!
--

For a creature like you there would be little more to say because you
cannot imagine that two people can construct the same idea
independently. RH

So you finally accept that he did come up with the idea, and that it was
15-20 years before you did? About time.
From a post some time ago Date: 2001-11-22 01:12:13 PST.........

* plagiarised from Dune*

*plagiarised from me. RH

ROTFL! That was proved*

* The Creaturespeak lexicon (1) Proved = baldly asserted. RH

incorrect some time ago. You really shouldn't parade
your ego disorder around so.

--
Steve Frazer
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steve_frazer/index.html
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User: "Robert Henderson"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	01 Jan 2005 01:11:32 AM

In article <136bt050o1qe0jj866mutuhb4lfqiipi27@4ax.com>, JohnJ
<jj_aber@hotmail.com> writes

Robert Henderson <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> WROTE:

Only to the liberal bigot mind.

The liberal bigot
Robert Henderson
Like all organisms the liberal bigot is an evolved creature,
although the character traits which made him - hypocrisy, the
wish to create the world in one's own image, paternalism, a
sense of moral superiority, a desire to gratuitously
interfere with the lives of others, false humility, self
indulgent masochism and a pathological refusal to accept
evidence which contradicts emotionally based beliefs - are
as old as civilised man. Those who know their history will
readily recognise the basic personality of the liberal bigot
for it is that of the Puritan.
Very primitive types existed in the ancient world - Plato's
Socrates has much of the Liberal Bigot's smugness and ability
to ignore the facts of human nature - but it was not until
eighteenth century that creatures displaying most of the
modern Liberal Bigot's general features emerged in the shape
of men such as William Wilberforce and Jeremy Bentham.
But Wilberforce and Bentham still had some moral sense and it
is Shelley who perhaps first displays the peculiar
humbugging amorality of the modern liberal bigot with his
continual prating about his love for "mankind", whilst
behaving abominably to all and sundry.
The nineteen thirties saw the first indubitably modern
liberal bigot described by Friedrich Hayek when he had found
one called Harold Laski at the LSE. To be sure Laski did not
have certain of the detailed traits associated with the
liberal bigot of our time, for example the hatred of academic
success in the working class, nor did he possess the instinct
to dissemble his paternalism, but he had that quintessential
quality of the fully developed Liberal Bigot, an
intellectualised pseudo-morality or, to put it more exactly,
ethical rules without moral context.
Since the discovery of Laski, liberal bigots have become
increasingly common and they are now a very widely spread
pest. They are particularly fond of habitats such as
politics, the arts, universities, the media and the
social services. The liberal bigot can be found in all
western societies, but nowhere does the creature have such
success as within the precincts of the Anglo-Saxon world,
where they have captured political control of their
societies.
The liberal bigot's ideological and psychological starting
point is the fantasy, which he maintains in the face of all
the evidence, that man is a generally malleable creature who
can be changed by social engineering to create a world fit
for Liberal Bigots, although in so thinking the liberal
bigot misunderstands his own psychology for he would find
such a place supremely uncongenial. No more would he be able
to posture in the public eye because there would be no
matters occasioning expressions of liberal bigot moral
outrage or excuses for paternalistic action. Even more
alarmingly, in a realised liberal bigot society, the liberal
bigot might be forced to match his behaviour to his words.
However, the liberal bigot may rest easy in his bed for such
a world is but fit for dreams.
The liberal bigot has but one general principle but what a
principle it is, being so all embracing that no other is
needed. The liberal bigot holds as an article of faith that
no discrimination should be made between human beings
regardless of man's natural inclinations and nature's
distinction by sex, sexual inclination, race, colour,
culture, class, talent, intelligence, education, personality,
physical condition and age, unless, of course, the person
judged is female, homosexual, non-Caucasian, poor, stupid,
uneducated, old or crippled. Then the liberal bigot may
discriminate to his heart's content, although in the weasel
wording manner of Lenin's 'democratic centralism' he calls it
'positive discrimination and thinks it not in the least
"judgemental". This he has institutionalised in a
totalitarian system called political correctness.
Above all things the liberal bigot delights in what he calls
racism, which in practice means the white man defending his
own interests or extolling his own culture. This the liberal
bigot has raised to the status of the great modern
blasphemy. Just as once the Holy Office caused men to be
burned for denying the literal truth of transubstantiation,
so just as surely does the liberal bigot wish to immolate
those who distinguish amongst their fellows on the most
natural grounds of all, a sense of kinship, of shared culture
and experience. So central is this tenet to modern liberal
bigotry that the liberal bigot has moved in the past forty
years from believing that racial discrimination is bad to
asserting that multiracial societies are a positive good.
The fact that such societies always experience considerable
friction between their various racial components is not, of
course, taken as evidence by the liberal bigot that he is
wrong, but as ammunition for promoting more restrictions on
the white population and further reason for indulging in
positive orgies of European cultural denigration.
At some level the liberal bigot realises that his creed is
at odds with reality. So, following in the footsteps of
religious intellectuals such as Acquinas and political
theorists such as Marx, he creates an elaborate fictional
world which is baldly represented as "natural" or "right",
and reality "unnatural" and "wrong", even though
intellectually the liberal bigot would deny any objective
morality or measure of cultural worth.
Like all those who adopt intellectually indefensible
ideologies, the liberal bigot makes disbelief a heresy and
punishes it with a gamut of sanctions which range from
exclusion from public life through simple expressions of
distaste to the passing of laws threatening fines and
imprisonment for those who express the "wrong" opinions.
Morality exercises a peculiar difficulty for the liberal
bigot for he is caught between believing in moral relativism
and a desire to impose his own standards on the world, for
which he cannot, necessarily, have any absolute sanction.
This dilemma is partially solved by the development of an
amoral personality and by using doublethink to hide the
intellectual contradiction.
The liberal bigot decries "nationalism" but he is also a
firm advocate of cultural expression provided, of course,
the people concerned are within his approved ideological
circle of deserving causes. That a sense of cultural worth
and identity is practically indistinguishable from
nationalism the liberal bigot cannot accept so he represents
the two as opposites. When pressed with disloyalty, he often
makes a spurious distinction between patriotism and
nationalism and says he is "proud" of such things as
Britain's history of providing sanctuary for refugees, which
trait, when translated to the nature and level of modern
population movements, is of course of the greatest possible
disadvantage to the receiving country. If he is in the media
he will crudely mock the idea of national feeling by being
absurdly jingoistic in trivial matters as in the statement
"The space shuttle took off today. The plastic wrappers for
the food were British." His hysterical laughter at any
suggestion that Churchill or Wellington might be worthy of
respect changes to a childlike reverence when his thoughts
turn to such vicious charlatans as Che Guevara.
The liberal bigot wishes to enjoy the material wealth,
physical security and intellectual tolerance of the advanced
civilisation in which they live, whilst decrying all the
institutions and habits which have produced this happy state.
He publicly laments such things as poverty, but he reacts
most strongly to suggestions that his personal wealth should
be expended on those causes supposedly dear to his heart - it
is to the public purse that the liberal bigot looks, first,
second and last. He extols the virtues of "working class" or
"ethnic" customs and values, but takes good care to avoid
contact with unreconstructed members of such groups by living
well away from or cocooning himself within a gentrified part
of their areas.
In truth, the liberal bigot has little knowledge of the
groups whom he purports to champion. Loving humanity in the
mass, he finds their individual reality at odds with his
ideology and personal inclinations. Even worse he cannot but
suspect that the downtrodden prole or black does not take him
seriously, that in some curious way he is patronised by the
very people he imagines desperately need his help. Now if
there is one thing which enrages the liberal bigot above all
others it is not being taken seriously. While uttering a
great deal of cant about how much he is against snobbery, how
he is just a common man no different from anyone else in the
street, the liberal bigot is mortally offended when he is
taken at his word.
The liberal bigot decries privilege but excepts it eagerly
when the beneficiary is himself or other liberal bigots. How
cleverly the liberal bigot creates jobs and status for those
of a like mind. He is always pushing for more , and better
paid, Social Workers, teachers and Race Relations operatives,
whom he constantly refers to as "professionals". Indeed, on
the question of formal status he can be decidedly touchy.
For one who supposedly embraces egalitarianism this is rather
strange, but then not so odd when the Liberal Bigot's
propensity for hypocrisy is considered for there is nothing
he likes so much as having his cake and eating it.
The liberal bigot is the enemy of social opportunity for all
but his likeminded fellows. The happy recipient of social
and educational opportunities which permit him to enter the
magic circle of Liberal Bigotry, his voice is always to be
heard berating the value of such things for what he calls
"The underprivileged" . To this end he speaks of the worth of
"working class" and "ethnic" cultures which, of course,
cannot be preserved if "middle class" values are foisted upon
their members. And this is scarcely to be wondered at for
the liberal bigot is essentially undemocratic. A politically
sophisticated and educated working class capable of
effectively challenging liberal bigot ideas is the last thing
the liberal bigot wants. Besides, without them who would he
have to patronise so superbly?
The self-conscious masochism of the liberal bigot knows no
bounds. Like the medieval Christian who cried "I am the
humblest of men", he commits the sin of pride in a
peculiarly distasteful manner as he seeks approbation under
the guise of self-denigration. How diligently he vies with
others to prove that his society is the guiltiest of colonial
and cultural oppression; how relentlessly he denigrates his
own people's cultural and intellectual achievements.
What will be the future of the Liberal Bigot? Like the
nautilus with its ever increasing spiral, the liberal bigot
continues to evolve regardless of specific advantage. He
acknowledges no sense of belonging or cultural indebtedness,
whilst exhibiting a truly unthinking arrogance in his belief
that no matter what he does or what cause he supports, his
own person will be inviolate, both intellectually and
materially. In fact, the liberal bigot exhibits the classic
behaviour of the parasite. He enjoys benefits gained at the
expense of the host, in this case Anglo-Saxon society. But
parasites can only be successful in the long run if they do
not so weaken the host that it is eventually unable to
support them. Consequently, the liberal bigot is unlikely to
survive in his present form for very long because he shows
no capacity for controlling his voracious appetite for
incontinent abuse of his environment.

--
Robert Henderson
philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk
Blair Scandal web site at http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal web site at http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
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User: "Aardvark"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	01 Jan 2005 07:50:09 AM

"Robert Henderson" <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:l403EJAk0k1BFwQF@anywhere.demon.co.uk...

In article <136bt050o1qe0jj866mutuhb4lfqiipi27@4ax.com>, JohnJ
<jj_aber@hotmail.com> writes

Robert Henderson <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> WROTE:

Only to the liberal bigot mind.

The liberal bigot

Robert Henderson

The fact that you chose to waste a few hours scribbling nonsense on a
totally erroneous premise doesn't actually answer the question.
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User: "Harold"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	07 Jan 2005 03:17:56 AM

JohnJ wrote:

Robert Henderson <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> WROTE:

Only to the liberal bigot mind.

Unfortunately, such delusions are far too common.
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User: "Conor"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 07:29:00 AM

In article Robert Henderson says...

Meanwhile in other news...
The rest of the world is trying its damnest to reduce pollution to try
and prevent more natural disasters whilst RH and his fuckwit friends
drive around in gas guzzling SUVs, dump tonnes of recyclable trash and
generally ***** up the planet for the rest of mankind.
USA - generator of 25% of the worlds pollution.
--
Conor
An imperfect plan executed violently is far superior to a perfect plan.
-- George Patton
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User: "Ian Pegel"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 12:38:13 PM

Conor wrote:

In article Robert Henderson says...

Meanwhile in other news...

The rest of the world is trying its damnest to reduce pollution to try
and prevent more natural disasters whilst RH and his fuckwit friends
drive around in gas guzzling SUVs, dump tonnes of recyclable trash and
generally ***** up the planet for the rest of mankind.

USA - generator of 25% of the worlds pollution.

Have you ever walked around a US city like San Francisco? I have. And
what is striking is that the air quality there is really good, due to
their strict emmission control laws.
The witch doctors of old believed that all natural disasters were due
to some god's displeasure with some human activity or other - hence
every bad event was caused by man.
Now we get environmentalists preaching that global warming is all due to
the human race's evil obsession with the internal combustion engine -
whilst jaunting off in gas-guzzling jet planes to exotic locations for
conferences. That global warming is due to human activity is taken as an
indisputable "fact" which is pumped out by the trots at the BBC to add
to this collective guilt.
I can almost see the cogs going in the enviro-fascists minds trying to
find a way of pinning the tsunami on western values.
Really, we need to lighten up a bit. Not everything is our fault.
--
Ian
The Onion Man
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User: "Frank Booth Snr"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 01:42:19 PM

Ian Pegel <IanPegel@netscamybrainspe.net> wrote in message
news:NsudnedIoKoZAUjcRVn_vA@giganews.com...

I can almost see the cogs going in the enviro-fascists minds trying to
find a way of pinning the tsunami on western values.

Really, we need to lighten up a bit. Not everything is our fault.

Erm, earthquakes have nothing to do with man-made global disasters,
potential or otherwise.
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User: *"Derek "**
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 01:59:54 PM

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:38:13 +0000, Ian Pegel
<IanPegel@netscamybrainspe.net> wrote:

Conor wrote:

In article Robert Henderson says...

Meanwhile in other news...

The rest of the world is trying its damnest to reduce pollution to try
and prevent more natural disasters whilst RH and his fuckwit friends
drive around in gas guzzling SUVs, dump tonnes of recyclable trash and
generally ***** up the planet for the rest of mankind.

USA - generator of 25% of the worlds pollution.

Have you ever walked around a US city like San Francisco? I have.

So have I. The air quality was unremarkable. I don't recall SF having an
air quality problem even before emission controls. The climate is cool
in summer due to the influence of the Humboldt Current. LA used to have
the photochemical smogs.

And what is striking is that the air quality there is really good, due to
their strict emmission control laws.

??
IME there wasn't even a lot of traffic compared with, say Birmingham, or
Manchester.
DG
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User: "Maria"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 05:53:54 AM

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:09:11 +0000, Robert Henderson
<Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

I don't see it that way. I think we should help them because we can,
simple as that.
For me, the 'sin' would be to stand by and do nothing when we can help
them.
If I saw someone ill in the street, I'd help them too.
There are no rational reasons or moral obligations as to why people
should be compelled to help others, but I don't fancy living in a
world where each man is only for himself.
Why should you even care for your own family, or your wife or husband
or children? There is no rational reason for that either, except for
pure selfishness.
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User: "uNkulunkulu"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 06:56:10 AM

"Maria" <frustrated@home.com> wrote in message
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: On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:09:11 +0000, Robert Henderson
: <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
:
: >For more than twenty years Third World disasters, natural and manmade,
: >have been used by the liberal bigot elite as an engine to drive the
: >internationalist agenda. We have now reached the stage where the media,
: >especially broadcasters, feed the public with what is virtually a
: >continuous diet of Third World woe accompanied by exhortations for the
: >West to do more and more to make up for their terrible sin of being
: >richer and successful.
: >
:
: I don't see it that way. I think we should help them because we can,
: simple as that.
: For me, the 'sin' would be to stand by and do nothing when we can help
: them.
: If I saw someone ill in the street, I'd help them too.
: There are no rational reasons or moral obligations as to why people
: should be compelled to help others, but I don't fancy living in a
: world where each man is only for himself.
: Why should you even care for your own family, or your wife or husband
: or children? There is no rational reason for that either, except for
: pure selfishness.
:
:
If you were a frequent reader of Bobby's Twaddle posts, you would have realised
that he is entirely selfish, bigoted and racist.
--
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User: "Ariadne"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 08:37:22 PM

uNkulunkulu wrote:

manmade,

: >have been used by the liberal bigot elite as an engine to drive

the

: >internationalist agenda. We have now reached the stage where the

media,

: >especially broadcasters, feed the public with what is virtually

: >continuous diet of Third World woe accompanied by exhortations

for the

: >West to do more and more to make up for their terrible sin of

being

: >richer and successful.
: >
:
: I don't see it that way. I think we should help them because we

can,

: simple as that.
: For me, the 'sin' would be to stand by and do nothing when we can

help

: them.
: If I saw someone ill in the street, I'd help them too.
: There are no rational reasons or moral obligations as to why people
: should be compelled to help others, but I don't fancy living in a
: world where each man is only for himself.
: Why should you even care for your own family, or your wife or

husband

: or children? There is no rational reason for that either, except

for

: pure selfishness.
:
:

If you were a frequent reader of Bobby's Twaddle posts, you
would have realised
that he is entirely selfish, bigoted and racist.

--
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mina bona lo mombi yena lo shatini
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User: "Robert Henderson"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 07:02:56 AM

In article <a7fat0tr4sd5kpaa1fj6vn7qbjttto2erm@4ax.com>, Maria
<frustrated@home.com> writes

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:09:11 +0000, Robert Henderson
<Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

I don't see it that way. I think we should help them because we can,
simple as that.

I am not suggesting that you as an individual should not contribute what
you want. RH

For me, the 'sin' would be to stand by and do nothing when we can help
them.
If I saw someone ill in the street, I'd help them too.

There is a clear difference between those in your own country and those
abroad. RH

There are no rational reasons

Yes there is at the national level - to maintain the integrity of the
tribe. RH

or moral obligations as to why people
should be compelled to help others

The morality of the tribe to help fellow tribe members is a powerful
reason. RH

, but I don't fancy living in a
world where each man is only for himself.

Neither do I, but responsibility stops at the borders of the state you
live in. TRH

Why should you even care for your own family, or your wife or husband
or children? There is no rational reason for that either, except for
pure selfishness.

--
Robert Henderson
philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk
Blair Scandal web site at http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal web site at http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
.

User: "Colin Reed"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	01 Jan 2005 07:13:20 AM

"Robert Henderson" <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uIN1YXAA4U1BFwTz@anywhere.demon.co.uk...

The morality of the tribe to help fellow tribe members is a powerful
reason. RH

Indeed. However you are defining the "Tribe" as confined by some arbitrary
geographical borders. Others amongst us would widen the tribe to include
"The human race". In such an event we would expect fellow humans to be
helped, both by us individually and by our elected representatives. The
only argument you seem to be able to throw back is that if we believe in a
larger tribe then we must be bigots.
Colin
.

User: "Robert Henderson"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	01 Jan 2005 10:17:29 AM

In article <33nlvdF446bs1U1@individual.net>, Colin Reed <colin-reed@no-
spam.lineone.net> writes

"Robert Henderson" <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uIN1YXAA4U1BFwTz@anywhere.demon.co.uk...

The morality of the tribe to help fellow tribe members is a powerful
reason. RH

Indeed. However you are defining the "Tribe" as confined by some arbitrary
geographical borders.

Nope. Tribe as in nation. RH

Others amongst us

Yep, the liberal bigots. RH

would widen the tribe to include
"The human race".

Thus rendering the word tribe meaningless. RH

In such an event we would expect fellow humans to be
helped, both by us individually and by our elected representatives. The
only argument you seem to be able to throw back is that if we believe in a
larger tribe then we must be bigots.

Colin

--
Robert Henderson
philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk
Blair Scandal web site at http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal web site at http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
.

User: "Colin Reed"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	01 Jan 2005 12:15:22 PM

"Robert Henderson" <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:lg73yKAZ0s1BFwRm@anywhere.demon.co.uk...

In article <33nlvdF446bs1U1@individual.net>, Colin Reed <colin-reed@no-
spam.lineone.net> writes

"Robert Henderson" <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uIN1YXAA4U1BFwTz@anywhere.demon.co.uk...

The morality of the tribe to help fellow tribe members is a powerful
reason. RH

Indeed. However you are defining the "Tribe" as confined by some

arbitrary

geographical borders.

Nope. Tribe as in nation. RH

But the concept of a tribe can be used for other units. Originally a tribe
could have been as small as an individual village. Even now members of
gangs will act as tribes. You have decided that your use of the concept of
tribe will apply to a nation (divided as I have mentioned previously by
geographical borders). I have merely pointed out that these tribal feelings
can refer to different sized tribes.

Others amongst us

Yep, the liberal bigots. RH

Didn't think it would be long before you had to use the B word to describe
anyone who disagrees with you once again. In fact I did mention it in my
previous post, but you had to jump in without thinking, or even reading to
the bottom of the post. Fairly predictable really.

would widen the tribe to include
"The human race".

Thus rendering the word tribe meaningless. RH

Not at all. The view of the human race as a world tribe can still be used
when deciding whether various courses of action would be of benefit to the
race, but not necessarily to other aspects of the environment or the animal
kingdom. Of course I could have just replied to this by saying "only to the
bounded mind" and thus using one of your own meaningless epithets. By using
examples and taking the time to argue out explanations I hope you realise
that I am contributing to your education!
Colin

In such an event we would expect fellow humans to be
helped, both by us individually and by our elected representatives. The
only argument you seem to be able to throw back is that if we believe in

larger tribe then we must be bigots.

Colin

--
Robert Henderson
philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk
Blair Scandal web site at http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal web site at http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

User: "Aardvark"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 08:17:29 AM

"Robert Henderson" <Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uIN1YXAA4U1BFwTz@anywhere.demon.co.uk...

In article <a7fat0tr4sd5kpaa1fj6vn7qbjttto2erm@4ax.com>, Maria
<frustrated@home.com> writes

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:09:11 +0000, Robert Henderson
<Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

I don't see it that way. I think we should help them because we can,
simple as that.

I am not suggesting that you as an individual should not contribute what
you want. RH

For me, the 'sin' would be to stand by and do nothing when we can help
them.
If I saw someone ill in the street, I'd help them too.

There is a clear difference between those in your own country and those
abroad. RH

Simply untrue. You may believe that, but it should be clear even to one as
stubbornly dogmatic as you that you are in a vanishingly small minority in
believing that.

There are no rational reasons

Yes there is at the national level - to maintain the integrity of the
tribe. RH

Utter drivel. And even if "the integrity of the tribe" meant anything (let
alone was important), sending penicillin to Thailand hardly damages us in
the UK.

or moral obligations as to why people
should be compelled to help others

The morality of the tribe to help fellow tribe members is a powerful
reason. RH

"The morality of the tribe"? Another meaningless platitude.

, but I don't fancy living in a
world where each man is only for himself.

Neither do I, but responsibility stops at the borders of the state you
live in. TRH.

Only for deeply unpleasant and insular people such as yourself. Fortunately,
there are very few like you.

Why should you even care for your own family, or your wife or husband
or children? There is no rational reason for that either, except for
pure selfishness.

--
Robert Henderson
philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk
Blair Scandal web site at http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
Personal web site at http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

User: "Frank Booth Snr"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 01:38:13 PM

Aardvark <ambidextrous_aardvark@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:33l5bjF40f1a2U1@individual.net...

Only for deeply unpleasant and insular people such as yourself.

Fortunately,

there are very few like you.

On this ng there are far worse selfish fucktards than RH. The only
difference is at least he's kinda honest about it.
.

User: "Welsh Witch"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 01:02:39 PM

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:02:56 +0000, Robert Henderson wrote:

In article <a7fat0tr4sd5kpaa1fj6vn7qbjttto2erm@4ax.com>, Maria
<frustrated@home.com> writes

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:09:11 +0000, Robert Henderson
<Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

I don't see it that way. I think we should help them because we can,
simple as that.

I am not suggesting that you as an individual should not contribute what
you want. RH

For me, the 'sin' would be to stand by and do nothing when we can help
them.
If I saw someone ill in the street, I'd help them too.

There is a clear difference between those in your own country and those
abroad. RH

There are no rational reasons

Yes there is at the national level - to maintain the integrity of the
tribe. RH

or moral obligations as to why people
should be compelled to help others

The morality of the tribe to help fellow tribe members is a powerful
reason. RH

, but I don't fancy living in a
world where each man is only for himself.

Neither do I, but responsibility stops at the borders of the state you
live in. TRH

Why should you even care for your own family, or your wife or husband or
children? There is no rational reason for that either, except for pure
selfishness.

*********************************
RH is quite right almost anyway. I think we should help anyone in distress
IF we have enough for our own tribe and some ....re the Samaratan (can't
spell it)
BUT if there's a us or them situation of course our own would come first
Two different issues here. Women especially affected by disasters in which
children and animals are involved would feel it natural to offer
assistance but if it was their children OR our children.. THis is where
things change and of course it must be the tribe first
Isn;t it something like the onion skin story. Me and my family against the
neighbours, me and my neighbour against the village etc etc until you ge
to me and my tribe against all other tribes! Can't rememberit properly I
expect Steve would know.
******************************
.

User: "Welsh Witch"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 12:48:01 PM

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:53:54 +0000, Maria wrote:

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:09:11 +0000, Robert Henderson
<Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

I don't see it that way. I think we should help them because we can,
simple as that.
For me, the 'sin' would be to stand by and do nothing when we can help
them.
If I saw someone ill in the street, I'd help them too. There are no
rational reasons or moral obligations as to why people should be compelled
to help others, but I don't fancy living in a world where each man is only
for himself. Why should you even care for your own family, or your wife or
husband or children? There is no rational reason for that either, except
for pure selfishness.

**************************************
Most of what you say is true. But there is a saying "God helps those who
help themselves"
Why did the Asian people not set up a warning system as they have on the
other vulnerable coast?
The British people are sending £1M every two hours. I would like to know
exactly what Peter Green gets paid.
I thought the best thing I could do was to write to St Joseph's College
Columbo and try to get in touch with someone I know. No luck so far. I
would much prefer to give help directly to a family in distress. Ther's a
website for Sri Lanka and church websites thereon if you don't know anyone
out there.
*****************************************
.

User: "Welsh Witch"
Title: Re: Natural disasters have become a tool of the liberal bigot internationalists	31 Dec 2004 12:55:18 PM

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:53:54 +0000, Maria wrote:

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:09:11 +0000, Robert Henderson
<Philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

I don't see it that way. I think we should help them because we can,
simple as that.
For me, the 'sin' would be to stand by and do nothing when we can help
them.
If I saw someone ill in the street, I'd help them too. There are no
rational reasons or moral obligations as to why people should be compelled
to help others, but I don't fancy living in a world where each man is only
for himself. Why should you even care for your own family, or your wife or
husband or children? There is no rational reason for that either, except
for pure selfishness.

***************************************
Post script :-)
Don't forget the Mrs Thatcher saying though!. If you don;t help yourself
you would not be in a position to help others ie I believe she said The
good Samaratin only could help the man by the wayside because he was rich.
**********************************************
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