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Nazis in the CIA closet: The Origins of Fascism in the United States |
Nazis in the CIA closet: The Origins of Fascism in the United States
By Christian Dewar
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not
become a monster."
-- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
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Many Americans may not be aware of this wide spread recruitment of SS and
Gestapo alumni into our intelligence agencies but it has had a profound
effect on the shaping of our domestic and foreign policy, often with ruinous
consequences. The legacy of this incorporation of Nazis into the CIA and
U.S. military has been a half a century of support for fascist regimes,
juntas, death squads, torture and the overthrow of democratically elected
governments around the world.
This policy of adopting Nazis into our intelligence agencies did not
consciously begin as some conspiracy to protect fascists. It was pragmatic.
The use of Nazis and their collaborators was looked upon much the same way
police use confidential informants. They could be given immunity from
prosecution and granted special favors for their assistance in the war
against the Soviets. However, the program became perverted. Agencies set up
to investigate Nazi war criminals ended up as programs to subvert
communism -- with the help of those same Nazis. And many of elements of
their fascistic philosophy were adopted by the U.S.
Author Christopher Simpson outlines much of the basis for these programs in
his book, 'Blowback: America's Recruitment of Nazis and its Effect on the
Cold War'. 'Blowback' in spy terminology means an operation that essentially
fails in such a way as to create negative, unforeseen consequences, which
causes harm or embarrassment to the agency perpetrating the plot. Another
book which deals with the use of Nazis and their collaborators and the
harmful effects on our way of life is 'The Belarus Secret', which was
written by John Loftus. Loftus was a former attorney with the Justice
Department of Special Investigations. His job was to hunt for Nazi war
criminals in the U.S. Loftus in also the co-author of the book, 'The Secret
War Against the Jews', which covers many related subjects.
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http://archive.democrats.com/view2.cfm?id=9099
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"What good fortune for those in power that people do not think!"
- Adolf Hitler, as quoted by Joachim Fest.
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"During my senior year I joined Skull and Bones, a secret society, so secret
I can't say anything more.
" President George W. Bush, in his autobiography, A Charge to Keep."
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| User: "Topaz" |
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30 Apr 2005 11:13:35 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:32:06 -0600, "Black Elk"
<windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Many Americans may not be aware of this wide spread recruitment of SS and
Gestapo alumni into our intelligence agencies but it has had a profound
effect on the shaping of our domestic and foreign policy,
"Nearly all the world has access to less biased information than
residents of the
US.
In recent votes on sanctions of Israel in the General Assembly of the
UN, the
votes have ranged up to 153 to 2, the 2 being the US, and Israel."
RLA
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| User: "robbinhood zorro" |
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30 Apr 2005 12:06:39 PM |
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WILL THE "ANTI-CHRIST" KNOW THAT ABOUT THEMSELVES
--- OF COURSE NOT!!!!
Why would anyone knowingly be the "anti-christ?"
This whole Prophesy aspect to Revelations seems to only be possible if
such a person would not understand their own guilt.
This would be an aspect of "Pushing the envelope..."
For instance invading another country, taking the world to war, because
you have deluded yourself into thinking that "Might makes Right" or
that those who do not profess your bizarre perversion of Jesus's
message are the problem... when in fact you are the problem. Or
because keeping the Corporate-Oil-Oligarchy in power seems
intrinsically right to you. IN OTHER WORDS YOU HAVE NO COMPREHENSION
OF JESUS'S MESSAGE ... BUT THINK YOU DO... ie you are an anti-christ.
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Texas is known for being the state with the dirtiest politicians in the
USA.
Question: What would JFK have done with Social Security?
THE ANSWER HAS TO DO WITH ANOTHER REASON THE FLEDGLING BUSH-REGIME'S
CIA ASSASSINATED JFK.
(that was over forty years ago the "fledgling Bush-Regime" is no longer
"fledgling")
We are now at a historic time in the history of the USA. The CIA had
the Truth sealed away for 75 years, from Public Eye concerning what
really happened to JFK, RFK, MLK. Claiming it was for "National
Security" reasons. By the time that time period has expired the
Fascist takeover of the US will be complete and it will not only not
matter that the truth is known... the CIA killed the great Human Rights
leaders at the behest of the a small group of
Texas-Oil-Oligarchy-Corporate-Leaders, primarily the Bush-Family who
are now establishing themselves as the entrenched THUG-RULERS of the
most powerful military/intelligence/espionage/political system in the
history of mankind.
ie the "Anti-Christ" head of the world.
The only way this can happen is if the people let it... if the american
people remain asleep and allow a LIAR to keep LYING because they are
too afraid to STAND AGAINST THE LIAR.
One reason Ted Kennedy did not die the martyr's death of his two
brothers is because he decided it was not his fight alone. He did not
see the american people outraged enough to STAND UP AGAINST THE
LIARS...
the average american is like Ted Kennedy... "let someone else fix the
problem..." that is entirely what the entrenched Bush Regime with the
CIA in its pocket is hoping americans and the rest of the world will
do.
Mantra of the Insane Bush-Regime:
"WAR IS GOOD BUSINESS, WAR IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS, WAR STIMULATES THE
ECONOMY... OH YEAH LOTS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE DIE TOO... OH WELL WHAT CAN
YOU DO ABOUT 'COLLATERAL DAMAGE' WE MUST STIMULATE GROWTH OF MONEY...
Mantra of the Insane Bush-Regime:
"WAR IS GOOD BUSINESS, WAR IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS, WAR STIMULATES THE
ECONOMY... OH YEAH LOTS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE DIE TOO... OH WELL WHAT CAN
YOU DO ABOUT 'COLLATERAL DAMAGE' WE MUST STIMULATE GROWTH OF MONEY...
Mantra of the Insane Bush-Regime:
"WAR IS GOOD BUSINESS, WAR IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS, WAR STIMULATES THE
ECONOMY... OH YEAH LOTS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE DIE TOO... OH WELL WHAT CAN
YOU DO ABOUT 'COLLATERAL DAMAGE' WE MUST STIMULATE GROWTH OF MONEY...
Mantra of the Insane Bush-Regime:
"WAR IS GOOD BUSINESS, WAR IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS, WAR STIMULATES THE
ECONOMY... OH YEAH LOTS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE DIE TOO... OH WELL WHAT CAN
YOU DO ABOUT 'COLLATERAL DAMAGE' WE MUST STIMULATE GROWTH OF MONEY...
Are you going to continue to follow the new Hitler?
It used to be that true Christians went willingly to die martyr's
deaths.
This world is a spec in eternity. Why not do your best to make this
world beautiful in the spirit of man... by being a man who stands up
against the liars who only believe in materialism, money, greed, oil...
etc. You will be considered worthless by many... but you will be one
of those who has kept the true people alive in spirit.
Drive around McClean, VA(the home of CIA headquarters) and read the
road signs: "George Bush's CIA"
Nixon is spinning in his grave wondering what Bush has to do to be
impeached.
"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is a merge of
State and Corporate power." ---Benito Mussolini, the father of modern
fascism.
"What does it matter to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless whether
the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the
holy name of liberty or democracy?"
--- Mahatma Gandhi
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| User: "Topaz" |
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01 May 2005 09:15:46 PM |
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corporatism
"All those engaged in a common enterprise, particularly as a means of
making a living, have a common interest and should deal with
government through their leaders as, for example, educational workers,
or workers in agriculture, rather than 'horizontally' as laborers,
clerical workers, managers, and so on."
Source:
David Miller et al., eds, The Blackwell Encyclopaedia of Political
Thought (Oxford, 1987)
Of course Mussolini did not mean that corporations as in the USA
should have more power or profits.
Here are parts of a post about Mussolini written by a very
anti-Mussolini person. He has done his homework though and cites many
books which are also anti-Mussolini and anti-Fascist. These are some
things they admit:
"He had a profound contempt for those whose overriding ambition was to
be
rich. It was a mania, he thought, a kind of disease, and he comforted
himself with the reflection that the rich were rarely happy"
Here Hibbert (1962, p. 47) is describing a lifelong attitude of
Mussolini
that continued right into his time as Italy's Prime Minister - when he
refused to take his official salary.
"There was much truth in the comment of a Rome newspaper that the new
fasci
did not aim at the defence of the ruling class or the existing State
but
wanted to lead the revolutionary forces into the Nationalist camp so
as to
prevent a victory of Bolshevism.
even after coming
to power, to take drives in the country with his wife and stop at
various
farmhouses on the way for a chat with the family there. He would enjoy
discussing the crops, the weather and all the usual rural topics and
obviously just liked the feeling of being one of the people. His claim
to
represent the people was not just theory but heartfelt. And he never
gave up
his "anti-bourgeois" rhetoric.
His policies were basically protectionist. He
controlled the exchange-rate of the Italian currency and promoted that
old
favourite of the economically illiterate - autarky - meaning that he
tried
to get Italy to become wholly self-sufficient rather than rely on
foreign
trade. He wanted to protect Italian products from competing foreign
products.
By 1939 he had doubled Italy's grain
production from its traditional level, enabling Italy to cut wheat
imports
by 75% (Smith, 1967, p. 92).
He made Capri a bird sanctuary (Smith, 1967, p. 84) and
in 1926 he issued a decree reducing the size of newspapers to save
wood
pulp. And, believe it or not, he even mandated gasohol - i.e. mixing
industrial alcohol with petroleum products to make fuel for cars
(Smith,
1967, p. 87). Mussolini also disliked the population drift from rural
areas
into the big cities and in 1930 passed a law to put a stop to it
unless
official permission was granted
he advocated private enterprise within
a strict set of State controls designed, among other things, to
prevent
abuse of monopoly power (Gregor, 1979, Ch. 5).
....a big
expansion of public works and a great improvement in social insurance
measures. He also set up the "Dopolavoro" (after work) organization to
give
workers cheap recreations of various kinds (cf. the Nazi Kraft durch
Freude
movement). His public health measures (such as the attack on
tuberculosis
and the setting up of a huge maternal and child welfare organization)
were
particularly notable for their rationality and efficiency and, as
such, were
rewarded with great success. For instance, the incidence of
tuberculosis
dropped dramatically and infant mortality declined by more than 20%
(Gregor,
p. 259).
"instituted a programme of public works hitherto unrivalled in modern
Europe. Bridges, canals and roads were built, hospitals and schools,
railway
stations and orphanages, swamps were drained and land reclaimed,
forest were
planted and universities were endowed."
In 1929 Mussolini and Pope Pius
12th signed the Lateran treaty - which is still the legal basis for
the
existence of the Vatican State to this day - and Pius in fact at one
stage
called Mussolini "the man sent by Providence". The treaty recognized
Roman
Catholicism as the Italian State religion as well as recognizing the
Vatican
as a sovereign state. What Mussolini got in exchange was acceptance by
the
church - something that was enormously important in the Italy of that
time.
the great hatred that existed in prewar
Germany between the Nazis and the "Reds". And the early Fascists
battled the
"Reds" too, of course.
The 1919 election
manifesto, for instance, contained policies of worker control of
industry,
confiscation of war profits, abolition of the Stock exchange, land for
the
peasants and abolition of the Monarchy and nobility. Further,
Mussolini
never ceased to inveigh against "plutocrats".
He wanted a harmonious and united
Italy for all Italians of all classes and was sure that achieving just
treatment for the workers needed neither revolution nor any kind of
artificially enforced equality.
This made Italian Fascism a much more popular creed than Stalin's
Communism. This
is perhaps most clearly seen by the always persuasive "voting with
your
feet" criterion. Mussolini made no effort to prevent Italians from
emigrating and although some anti-Fascists did, net emigration
actually FELL
under Mussolini. Compare this with Stalin and the Berlin wall.
Mussolini gained
power through political rather than revolutionary means. His famous
march on
Rome was only superficially revolutionary. The King of Italy and the
army
approved of him because of his pragmatic policies so did not oppose
the
march. So this collusion ensured that Mussolini's "revolution" was
essentially bloodless.
His considerable popularity for many years among a wide
range of Italians shows how effective his recipe for achieving that
was.
In his "corporate state", Mussolini was the first to create ...a
system
of capitalism under tight government control. And his corporate state
was
one where the workers had (at least in theory) equal rights with
management.
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http://www.cspc.org/het/multicul.htm
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