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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Roedy Green"
Date: 31 Jan 2004 03:04:52 AM
Object: Neocon competence
I think the neocons have shown their naivete in ten ways:
1. they predicted the Iraqis would greet Americans soldiers with
kisses and roses.
2. they underestimated the size of the occupation force needed,
ignoring Pentagon advice.
3. They claimed that weapons of mass destruction would be found and
they were not.
4. They had no plan in place for installing democracy.
5. They underestimated the ability of Iraqis to sabotage -- $7
billion a day back in August according to Paul Bremer.
6. They underestimate the total cost of the war and the occupation.
7. They did not foresee the probability of civil war.
8. They did not for see that the majority Shiites would demand sharia
(an Islamic theocracy) if given a democratic choice. At least Saddam
was more secular.
9. There is no oil flowing.
10. They blithely ignored advice from more experienced people on all
these matters.
The problem is the neocons are a bunch of academics without military,
political or diplomatic experience. They fell prey to their own
wishful thinking. Team spirit groupthink stopped them from
reexamining for holes in their plans. They were hopelessly optimistic.
They have proved their incompetence. They should resign en masse.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.

User: "Edw"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 31 Jan 2004 07:20:08 AM
"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:i8rm10lg4eer0tso1fihjblfoth2lktrc8@4ax.com...

I think the neocons have shown their naivete in ten ways:

1. they predicted the Iraqis would greet Americans soldiers with
kisses and roses.

2. they underestimated the size of the occupation force needed,
ignoring Pentagon advice.

3. They claimed that weapons of mass destruction would be found and
they were not.

4. They had no plan in place for installing democracy.

5. They underestimated the ability of Iraqis to sabotage -- $7
billion a day back in August according to Paul Bremer.

6. They underestimate the total cost of the war and the occupation.

7. They did not foresee the probability of civil war.

8. They did not for see that the majority Shiites would demand sharia
(an Islamic theocracy) if given a democratic choice. At least Saddam
was more secular.

9. There is no oil flowing.

10. They blithely ignored advice from more experienced people on all
these matters.


The problem is the neocons are a bunch of academics without military,
political or diplomatic experience. They fell prey to their own
wishful thinking. Team spirit groupthink stopped them from
reexamining for holes in their plans. They were hopelessly optimistic.

They have proved their incompetence. They should resign en masse.

In fact, they amde the mistake they're so quick to proclaim in everyone
else; they're blinded by ideology. These grey men truly believe they're
morally infallible. Fortunately, cracks are beginning to show in the
right-wing coalitions.



--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

.
User: ""

Title: Re: Neocon competence 31 Jan 2004 11:42:44 AM
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:20:08 GMT, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:i8rm10lg4eer0tso1fihjblfoth2lktrc8@4ax.com...

I think the neocons have shown their naivete in ten ways:

1. they predicted the Iraqis would greet Americans soldiers with
kisses and roses.

2. they underestimated the size of the occupation force needed,
ignoring Pentagon advice.

3. They claimed that weapons of mass destruction would be found and
they were not.

4. They had no plan in place for installing democracy.

5. They underestimated the ability of Iraqis to sabotage -- $7
billion a day back in August according to Paul Bremer.

6. They underestimate the total cost of the war and the occupation.

7. They did not foresee the probability of civil war.

8. They did not for see that the majority Shiites would demand sharia
(an Islamic theocracy) if given a democratic choice. At least Saddam
was more secular.

9. There is no oil flowing.

10. They blithely ignored advice from more experienced people on all
these matters.


The problem is the neocons are a bunch of academics without military,
political or diplomatic experience. They fell prey to their own
wishful thinking. Team spirit groupthink stopped them from
reexamining for holes in their plans. They were hopelessly optimistic.

They have proved their incompetence. They should resign en masse.



In fact, they amde the mistake they're so quick to proclaim in everyone
else; they're blinded by ideology. These grey men truly believe they're
morally infallible. Fortunately, cracks are beginning to show in the
right-wing coalitions.

There are no cracks anywhere.
It's the pressure and the tricks you commies put on whoever is not on the left-side like you...
The WMD were and probably are still there hidden somewhere, the terrorist groups you commies always
help with your no-global punks it's another trick to make the Republican administration look fishy
to people. You've to play tricks and nothing else in order to change people will. You can only
insult and attack your political opponents like they were your enemies, you don't know what
democracy really is, you've no clue about it !
.
User: "Edw"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 31 Jan 2004 11:41:42 AM
<Alkampfer@anon.com> wrote in message
news:d2qn1058db5k9ovubt1l0qi3j6k4kcuq99@4ax.com...

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:20:08 GMT, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:i8rm10lg4eer0tso1fihjblfoth2lktrc8@4ax.com...

I think the neocons have shown their naivete in ten ways:

1. they predicted the Iraqis would greet Americans soldiers with
kisses and roses.

2. they underestimated the size of the occupation force needed,
ignoring Pentagon advice.

3. They claimed that weapons of mass destruction would be found and
they were not.

4. They had no plan in place for installing democracy.

5. They underestimated the ability of Iraqis to sabotage -- $7
billion a day back in August according to Paul Bremer.

6. They underestimate the total cost of the war and the occupation.

7. They did not foresee the probability of civil war.

8. They did not for see that the majority Shiites would demand sharia
(an Islamic theocracy) if given a democratic choice. At least Saddam
was more secular.

9. There is no oil flowing.

10. They blithely ignored advice from more experienced people on all
these matters.


The problem is the neocons are a bunch of academics without military,
political or diplomatic experience. They fell prey to their own
wishful thinking. Team spirit groupthink stopped them from
reexamining for holes in their plans. They were hopelessly optimistic.

They have proved their incompetence. They should resign en masse.



In fact, they amde the mistake they're so quick to proclaim in everyone
else; they're blinded by ideology. These grey men truly believe they're
morally infallible. Fortunately, cracks are beginning to show in the
right-wing coalitions.


There are no cracks anywhere.
It's the pressure and the tricks you commies put on whoever is not on the

left-side like you...

The WMD were and probably are still there hidden somewhere, the terrorist

groups you commies always

help with your no-global punks it's another trick to make the Republican

administration look fishy

to people. You've to play tricks and nothing else in order to change

people will. You can only

insult and attack your political opponents like they were your enemies,

you don't know what

democracy really is, you've no clue about it !

I know you are, but what am I?


.

User: "ronin"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 31 Jan 2004 08:01:39 PM
<Alkampfer@anon.com> wrote in message
news:d2qn1058db5k9ovubt1l0qi3j6k4kcuq99@4ax.com...

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:20:08 GMT, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:i8rm10lg4eer0tso1fihjblfoth2lktrc8@4ax.com...

I think the neocons have shown their naivete in ten ways:

1. they predicted the Iraqis would greet Americans soldiers with
kisses and roses.

2. they underestimated the size of the occupation force needed,
ignoring Pentagon advice.

3. They claimed that weapons of mass destruction would be found and
they were not.

4. They had no plan in place for installing democracy.

5. They underestimated the ability of Iraqis to sabotage -- $7
billion a day back in August according to Paul Bremer.

6. They underestimate the total cost of the war and the occupation.

7. They did not foresee the probability of civil war.

8. They did not for see that the majority Shiites would demand sharia
(an Islamic theocracy) if given a democratic choice. At least Saddam
was more secular.

9. There is no oil flowing.

10. They blithely ignored advice from more experienced people on all
these matters.


The problem is the neocons are a bunch of academics without military,
political or diplomatic experience. They fell prey to their own
wishful thinking. Team spirit groupthink stopped them from
reexamining for holes in their plans. They were hopelessly optimistic.

They have proved their incompetence. They should resign en masse.



In fact, they amde the mistake they're so quick to proclaim in everyone
else; they're blinded by ideology. These grey men truly believe they're
morally infallible. Fortunately, cracks are beginning to show in the
right-wing coalitions.


There are no cracks anywhere.
It's the pressure and the tricks you commies put on whoever is not on the

left-side like you...

The WMD were and probably are still there hidden somewhere, the terrorist

groups you commies always

help with your no-global punks it's another trick to make the Republican

administration look fishy

to people. You've to play tricks and nothing else in order to change

people will. You can only

insult and attack your political opponents like they were your enemies,

you don't know what

democracy really is, you've no clue about it !

You deluded fool. You sound like a cult member.
I dare you to say, "George Bush is the smartest and best person the
Republican Party can come up with for a leader."
Funny how none of your rightwing foamers can never respond to the above
line....
.
User: "Edw"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 31 Jan 2004 08:07:06 PM
"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote in message
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<Alkampfer@anon.com> wrote in message
news:d2qn1058db5k9ovubt1l0qi3j6k4kcuq99@4ax.com...

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:20:08 GMT, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:i8rm10lg4eer0tso1fihjblfoth2lktrc8@4ax.com...

I think the neocons have shown their naivete in ten ways:

1. they predicted the Iraqis would greet Americans soldiers with
kisses and roses.

2. they underestimated the size of the occupation force needed,
ignoring Pentagon advice.

3. They claimed that weapons of mass destruction would be found and
they were not.

4. They had no plan in place for installing democracy.

5. They underestimated the ability of Iraqis to sabotage -- $7
billion a day back in August according to Paul Bremer.

6. They underestimate the total cost of the war and the occupation.

7. They did not foresee the probability of civil war.

8. They did not for see that the majority Shiites would demand sharia
(an Islamic theocracy) if given a democratic choice. At least Saddam
was more secular.

9. There is no oil flowing.

10. They blithely ignored advice from more experienced people on all
these matters.


The problem is the neocons are a bunch of academics without military,
political or diplomatic experience. They fell prey to their own
wishful thinking. Team spirit groupthink stopped them from
reexamining for holes in their plans. They were hopelessly

optimistic.


They have proved their incompetence. They should resign en masse.



In fact, they amde the mistake they're so quick to proclaim in everyone
else; they're blinded by ideology. These grey men truly believe

they're

morally infallible. Fortunately, cracks are beginning to show in the
right-wing coalitions.


There are no cracks anywhere.
It's the pressure and the tricks you commies put on whoever is not on

the

left-side like you...

The WMD were and probably are still there hidden somewhere, the

terrorist

groups you commies always

help with your no-global punks it's another trick to make the Republican

administration look fishy

to people. You've to play tricks and nothing else in order to change

people will. You can only

insult and attack your political opponents like they were your enemies,

you don't know what

democracy really is, you've no clue about it !



You deluded fool. You sound like a cult member.

I dare you to say, "George Bush is the smartest and best person the
Republican Party can come up with for a leader."

Funny how none of your rightwing foamers can never respond to the above
line....


I suspect he IS the smartest and best they can come up with.
.
User: "ronin"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 01 Feb 2004 06:01:00 AM
"Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote in message
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<Alkampfer@anon.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:20:08 GMT, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:i8rm10lg4eer0tso1fihjblfoth2lktrc8@4ax.com...

I think the neocons have shown their naivete in ten ways:

1. they predicted the Iraqis would greet Americans soldiers with
kisses and roses.

2. they underestimated the size of the occupation force needed,
ignoring Pentagon advice.

3. They claimed that weapons of mass destruction would be found and
they were not.

4. They had no plan in place for installing democracy.

5. They underestimated the ability of Iraqis to sabotage -- $7
billion a day back in August according to Paul Bremer.

6. They underestimate the total cost of the war and the occupation.

7. They did not foresee the probability of civil war.

8. They did not for see that the majority Shiites would demand

sharia

(an Islamic theocracy) if given a democratic choice. At least

Saddam

was more secular.

9. There is no oil flowing.

10. They blithely ignored advice from more experienced people on

all

these matters.


The problem is the neocons are a bunch of academics without

military,

political or diplomatic experience. They fell prey to their own
wishful thinking. Team spirit groupthink stopped them from
reexamining for holes in their plans. They were hopelessly

optimistic.


They have proved their incompetence. They should resign en masse.



In fact, they amde the mistake they're so quick to proclaim in

everyone

else; they're blinded by ideology. These grey men truly believe

they're

morally infallible. Fortunately, cracks are beginning to show in the
right-wing coalitions.


There are no cracks anywhere.
It's the pressure and the tricks you commies put on whoever is not on

the

left-side like you...

The WMD were and probably are still there hidden somewhere, the

terrorist

groups you commies always

help with your no-global punks it's another trick to make the

Republican

administration look fishy

to people. You've to play tricks and nothing else in order to change

people will. You can only

insult and attack your political opponents like they were your

enemies,

you don't know what

democracy really is, you've no clue about it !



You deluded fool. You sound like a cult member.

I dare you to say, "George Bush is the smartest and best person the
Republican Party can come up with for a leader."

Funny how none of your rightwing foamers can never respond to the above
line....


I suspect he IS the smartest and best they can come up with.

You think they'd be proud to admit it, since they spend so much of their
spare time defending his screwups....
.
User: "Edw"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 01 Feb 2004 07:34:40 AM
"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote in message
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"Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote in message
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<Alkampfer@anon.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:20:08 GMT, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net>

wrote:



"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:i8rm10lg4eer0tso1fihjblfoth2lktrc8@4ax.com...

I think the neocons have shown their naivete in ten ways:

1. they predicted the Iraqis would greet Americans soldiers with
kisses and roses.

2. they underestimated the size of the occupation force needed,
ignoring Pentagon advice.

3. They claimed that weapons of mass destruction would be found

and

they were not.

4. They had no plan in place for installing democracy.

5. They underestimated the ability of Iraqis to sabotage -- $7
billion a day back in August according to Paul Bremer.

6. They underestimate the total cost of the war and the

occupation.


7. They did not foresee the probability of civil war.

8. They did not for see that the majority Shiites would demand

sharia

(an Islamic theocracy) if given a democratic choice. At least

Saddam

was more secular.

9. There is no oil flowing.

10. They blithely ignored advice from more experienced people on

all

these matters.


The problem is the neocons are a bunch of academics without

military,

political or diplomatic experience. They fell prey to their own
wishful thinking. Team spirit groupthink stopped them from
reexamining for holes in their plans. They were hopelessly

optimistic.


They have proved their incompetence. They should resign en masse.



In fact, they amde the mistake they're so quick to proclaim in

everyone

else; they're blinded by ideology. These grey men truly believe

they're

morally infallible. Fortunately, cracks are beginning to show in

the

right-wing coalitions.


There are no cracks anywhere.
It's the pressure and the tricks you commies put on whoever is not

on

the

left-side like you...

The WMD were and probably are still there hidden somewhere, the

terrorist

groups you commies always

help with your no-global punks it's another trick to make the

Republican

administration look fishy

to people. You've to play tricks and nothing else in order to change

people will. You can only

insult and attack your political opponents like they were your

enemies,

you don't know what

democracy really is, you've no clue about it !



You deluded fool. You sound like a cult member.

I dare you to say, "George Bush is the smartest and best person the
Republican Party can come up with for a leader."

Funny how none of your rightwing foamers can never respond to the

above

line....


I suspect he IS the smartest and best they can come up with.



You think they'd be proud to admit it, since they spend so much of their
spare time defending his screwups....

Look at the bright side. While they're defending junior, they're not
screwing anything else up.



.



User: ""

Title: Re: Neocon competence 31 Jan 2004 08:08:28 PM
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 02:01:39 GMT, "ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote:


<Alkampfer@anon.com> wrote in message
news:d2qn1058db5k9ovubt1l0qi3j6k4kcuq99@4ax.com...

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:20:08 GMT, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:i8rm10lg4eer0tso1fihjblfoth2lktrc8@4ax.com...

I think the neocons have shown their naivete in ten ways:

1. they predicted the Iraqis would greet Americans soldiers with
kisses and roses.

2. they underestimated the size of the occupation force needed,
ignoring Pentagon advice.

3. They claimed that weapons of mass destruction would be found and
they were not.

4. They had no plan in place for installing democracy.

5. They underestimated the ability of Iraqis to sabotage -- $7
billion a day back in August according to Paul Bremer.

6. They underestimate the total cost of the war and the occupation.

7. They did not foresee the probability of civil war.

8. They did not for see that the majority Shiites would demand sharia
(an Islamic theocracy) if given a democratic choice. At least Saddam
was more secular.

9. There is no oil flowing.

10. They blithely ignored advice from more experienced people on all
these matters.


The problem is the neocons are a bunch of academics without military,
political or diplomatic experience. They fell prey to their own
wishful thinking. Team spirit groupthink stopped them from
reexamining for holes in their plans. They were hopelessly optimistic.

They have proved their incompetence. They should resign en masse.



In fact, they amde the mistake they're so quick to proclaim in everyone
else; they're blinded by ideology. These grey men truly believe they're
morally infallible. Fortunately, cracks are beginning to show in the
right-wing coalitions.


There are no cracks anywhere.
It's the pressure and the tricks you commies put on whoever is not on the

left-side like you...

The WMD were and probably are still there hidden somewhere, the terrorist

groups you commies always

help with your no-global punks it's another trick to make the Republican

administration look fishy

to people. You've to play tricks and nothing else in order to change

people will. You can only

insult and attack your political opponents like they were your enemies,

you don't know what

democracy really is, you've no clue about it !



You deluded fool. You sound like a cult member.

I dare you to say, "George Bush is the smartest and best person the
Republican Party can come up with for a leader."

He might not be the best one around BUT he surely is much better than anyone you can offer as an
option and he will ever be until you stop being and acting communistic-style but that's going to
take a very long time considering the kinda replies you have to offer to show how superior you
suppose to be over anyone else.

Funny how none of your rightwing foamers can never respond to the above
line....

Pathetic your continous attempts to try to make others look fool while you're the only ones looking
just disgusting.
.
User: "ronin"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 01 Feb 2004 06:04:33 AM
<Alkampfer@anon.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 02:01:39 GMT, "ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote:


<Alkampfer@anon.com> wrote in message
news:d2qn1058db5k9ovubt1l0qi3j6k4kcuq99@4ax.com...

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:20:08 GMT, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:i8rm10lg4eer0tso1fihjblfoth2lktrc8@4ax.com...

I think the neocons have shown their naivete in ten ways:

1. they predicted the Iraqis would greet Americans soldiers with
kisses and roses.

2. they underestimated the size of the occupation force needed,
ignoring Pentagon advice.

3. They claimed that weapons of mass destruction would be found and
they were not.

4. They had no plan in place for installing democracy.

5. They underestimated the ability of Iraqis to sabotage -- $7
billion a day back in August according to Paul Bremer.

6. They underestimate the total cost of the war and the occupation.

7. They did not foresee the probability of civil war.

8. They did not for see that the majority Shiites would demand

sharia

(an Islamic theocracy) if given a democratic choice. At least Saddam
was more secular.

9. There is no oil flowing.

10. They blithely ignored advice from more experienced people on all
these matters.


The problem is the neocons are a bunch of academics without

military,

political or diplomatic experience. They fell prey to their own
wishful thinking. Team spirit groupthink stopped them from
reexamining for holes in their plans. They were hopelessly

optimistic.


They have proved their incompetence. They should resign en masse.



In fact, they amde the mistake they're so quick to proclaim in

everyone

else; they're blinded by ideology. These grey men truly believe

they're

morally infallible. Fortunately, cracks are beginning to show in the
right-wing coalitions.


There are no cracks anywhere.
It's the pressure and the tricks you commies put on whoever is not on

the

left-side like you...

The WMD were and probably are still there hidden somewhere, the

terrorist

groups you commies always

help with your no-global punks it's another trick to make the

Republican

administration look fishy

to people. You've to play tricks and nothing else in order to change

people will. You can only

insult and attack your political opponents like they were your enemies,

you don't know what

democracy really is, you've no clue about it !



You deluded fool. You sound like a cult member.

I dare you to say, "George Bush is the smartest and best person the
Republican Party can come up with for a leader."



He might not be the best one around BUT he surely is much better than

anyone you can offer as an

option and he will ever be until you stop being and acting

communistic-style but that's going to

take a very long time considering the kinda replies you have to offer to

show how superior you

suppose to be over anyone else.

Communistic?
You're the country with the secret police.


Funny how none of your rightwing foamers can never respond to the above
line....


Pathetic your continous attempts to try to make others look fool while

you're the only ones looking

just disgusting.

I'm not getting people killed for lies.
Bush is making all of you look like fools.
Every week you have to defend the line they're spouting. And it always
changes.
At least the real Republicans are starting to wake up and oppose this clown
you defend.
.

User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 01 Feb 2004 01:35:52 AM
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 02:08:28 GMT,
wrote or quoted :

acting communistic-style

Could you explain what you mean by that. How does one act "communist
style"
1. wear a large fur hat.
2. get drunk on vodka.
3. work at a large bureaucracy for almost no pay.
4. claim that everyone should get as much as they want and nobody.
should have to do any work, not even the poor robots.
5. say that it is wicked to kill children.
6. Wear a soviet army uniform to a gay night club, with the back of
the pants cut out.
7. submit meekly to the state snooping on your affairs.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.
User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 01 Feb 2004 01:38:51 AM
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 07:35:52 GMT, Roedy Green
<look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote or quoted :

Could you explain what you mean by that. How does one act "communist
style"

I bet I know, NOT licking Bush's *****.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.




User: "jtbaker"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 01 Feb 2004 11:19:00 AM
wrote in message news:<d2qn1058db5k9ovubt1l0qi3j6k4kcuq99@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:20:08 GMT, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
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I think the neocons have shown their naivete in ten ways:



The problem is the neocons are a bunch of academics without military,
political or diplomatic experience. They fell prey to their own
wishful thinking. Team spirit groupthink stopped them from
reexamining for holes in their plans. They were hopelessly optimistic.

They have proved their incompetence. They should resign en masse.



In fact, they amde the mistake they're so quick to proclaim in everyone
else; they're blinded by ideology. These grey men truly believe they're
morally infallible. Fortunately, cracks are beginning to show in the
right-wing coalitions.


There are no cracks anywhere.
It's the pressure and the tricks you commies put on whoever is not on the left-side like you...
The WMD were and probably are still there hidden somewhere, the terrorist groups you commies always
help with your no-global punks it's another trick to make the Republican administration look fishy
to people. You've to play tricks and nothing else in order to change people will. You can only
insult and attack your political opponents like they were your enemies, you don't know what
democracy really is, you've no clue about it !

I agree with you... the commies are poisoning peoples mind with their
anti demcratic ideas. I think the president is not going to get a fair
vote this coming election. It is right time for the president to
cancel the election. A majority of god fearing, patriotic and
democracy loving american will support such action.
god bless america.....
.
User: "W"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 02 Feb 2004 12:30:14 AM
(jtbaker) wrote in message news:<c45c2669.0402010919.773584ed@posting.google.com>...

I agree with you... the commies are poisoning peoples mind with their
anti demcratic ideas. I think the president is not going to get a fair
vote this coming election. It is right time for the president to
cancel the election. A majority of god fearing, patriotic and
democracy loving american will support such action.
god bless america.....

You know those times when you hope someone is being ironic.....!
Commies are anti-democracy, so we should cancel the elections...huh?!
W
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User: "Edw"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 02 Feb 2004 08:26:13 AM
"W" <will@hubbahubba.com.au> wrote in message
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jtbaker1228@yahoo.com (jtbaker) wrote in message

news:<c45c2669.0402010919.773584ed@posting.google.com>...


I agree with you... the commies are poisoning peoples mind with their
anti demcratic ideas. I think the president is not going to get a fair
vote this coming election. It is right time for the president to
cancel the election. A majority of god fearing, patriotic and
democracy loving american will support such action.
god bless america.....


You know those times when you hope someone is being ironic.....!

Commies are anti-democracy, so we should cancel the elections...huh?!

And watch granny like a hawk. Social Security is communistic, too.


W

.


User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 07 Feb 2004 02:32:16 AM
On 1 Feb 2004 09:19:00 -0800,
(jtbaker) wrote or
quoted :

I agree with you... the commies are poisoning peoples mind with their
anti demcratic ideas. I think the president is not going to get a fair
vote this coming election. It is right time for the president to
cancel the election. A majority of god fearing, patriotic and
democracy loving american will support such action.
god bless america.....

Did it ever occur to you that canceling an election is the ULTIMATE
undemocratic idea? Who put this into YOUR head?
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.


User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 31 Jan 2004 07:53:40 PM
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:42:44 GMT,
wrote or quoted :

probably are still there hidden somewhere,

Why do you believe this despite have the mountains of evidence from
the contrary even from Kay, Bush's hand picked man?
You are suffering from wishful thinking.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Neocon competence 31 Jan 2004 08:04:16 PM
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:53:40 GMT, Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:42:44 GMT,

wrote or quoted :

probably are still there hidden somewhere,


Why do you believe this despite have the mountains of evidence from
the contrary even from Kay, Bush's hand picked man?

You are suffering from wishful thinking.

No, I'm not.
There's a conspiracy there. I bet that there are many militaries and secret agents doing their best
to not deliver the truth and simply because they usually vote for the Democratic party and they've
been ordered to not obey Bush orders but their political party only and so to not disclose what they
really found there. They can't be just a few to be able to hide things so much and make any proof
disappear.
Also I think that what it's not mantained hidden has been moved somewhere else by terrorist groups
that probably those some unprofessional commies-minded guys have allowed to.
The WMD were there, might still be there and it's a disgrace that there are so many hidden powers
working to conceal the truth just to let the Democrats get back in charge.
All terrorists worldwide are supporting Democrats and are afraid of Bush being re-elected, that
surely means even more than anything else....
.
User: "Edw"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 31 Jan 2004 08:06:13 PM
<
> wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:53:40 GMT, Roedy Green

<look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote:


On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:42:44 GMT,

wrote or quoted :

probably are still there hidden somewhere,


Why do you believe this despite have the mountains of evidence from
the contrary even from Kay, Bush's hand picked man?

You are suffering from wishful thinking.


No, I'm not.
There's a conspiracy there. I bet that there are many militaries and

secret agents doing their best

to not deliver the truth and simply because they usually vote for the

Democratic party and they've

been ordered to not obey Bush orders but their political party only and so

to not disclose what they

really found there. They can't be just a few to be able to hide things so

much and make any proof

disappear.
Also I think that what it's not mantained hidden has been moved somewhere

else by terrorist groups

that probably those some unprofessional commies-minded guys have allowed

to.

The WMD were there, might still be there and it's a disgrace that there

are so many hidden powers

working to conceal the truth just to let the Democrats get back in charge.
All terrorists worldwide are supporting Democrats and are afraid of Bush

being re-elected, that

surely means even more than anything else....

Does your mother know you're out?
.

User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Neocon competence 31 Jan 2004 08:08:46 PM
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 02:04:16 GMT,
wrote or quoted :

No, I'm not.
There's a conspiracy there. I bet that there are many militaries and secret agents doing their best
to not deliver the truth and simply because they usually vote for the Democratic party and they've
been ordered to not obey Bush orders but their political party only and so to not disclose what they
really found there. They can't be just a few to be able to hide things so much and make any proof
disappear.
Also I think that what it's not mantained hidden has been moved somewhere else by terrorist groups
that probably those some unprofessional commies-minded guys have allowed to.
The WMD were there, might still be there and it's a disgrace that there are so many hidden powers
working to conceal the truth just to let the Democrats get back in charge.
All terrorists worldwide are supporting Democrats and are afraid of Bush being re-elected, that
surely means even more than anything else....

I presume this is spoof. Could the real Alkamfer try digitally signing
his message so we can be sure. See
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/pgp.html
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.





User: "The Pretzel"

Title: Re: Neocon competence < 31 Jan 2004 04:14:16 PM
snippity-snip-snip......
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