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"NotBush2004" |
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01 Jan 2004 09:46:35 AM |
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NeoCons demand more war for 2004. |
US Hawks Present War Manifesto To Bush
Tell Bush How To Win War On Terror
By David Rennie
The Telegraph - UK
12-31-3
WASHINGTON -- President George W Bush was sent a public manifesto yesterday
by Washington's hawks, demanding regime change in Syria and Iran and a
Cuba-style military blockade of North Korea backed by planning for a
pre-emptive strike on its nuclear sites.
The manifesto, presented as a "manual for victory" in the war on terror,
also calls for Saudi Arabia and France to be treated not as allies but as
rivals and possibly enemies.
The manifesto is contained in a new book by Richard Perle, a Pentagon
adviser and "intellectual guru" of the hardline neo-conservative movement,
and David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter. They give warning of a faltering
of the "will to win" in Washington.
In the battle for the president's ear, the manifesto represents an attempt
by hawks to break out of the post-Iraq doldrums and strike back at what they
see as a campaign of hostile leaking by their foes in such centres of
caution as the State Department or in the military top brass.
Their publication, An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror, coincided
with the latest broadside from the hawks' enemy number one, Colin Powell,
the secretary of state.
Though on leave recovering from a prostate cancer operation, Mr Powell
summoned reporters to his bedside to hail "encouraging" signs of a "new
attitude" in Iran and call for the United States to keep open the prospect
of dialogue with the Teheran authorities.
Such talk is anathema to hawks like Mr Perle and Mr Frum who urge Washington
to shun the mullahs and work for their overthrow in concert with Iranian
dissidents.
It may be assumed that their instincts at least are shared by hawks inside
the government, whose twin power bases are the Pentagon's civilian
leadership and the office of the vice-president, ***** Cheney.
Such officials prevailed over invading Afghanistan and Iraq, but have been
seen as on the back foot since the autumn as their post-war visions of
building a secular, free-market Iraq were scaled back in favour of
compromise and a swift handover of power next June.
The book demands that any talks with North Korea require the complete and
immediate abandonment of its nuclear programme.
As North Korea will probably refuse such terms, the book urges a Cuba-style
military blockade and overt preparations for war, including the rapid
pullback of US forces from the inter-Korean border so that they move out of
range of North Korean artillery.
Such steps, with luck, will prompt China to oust its nominal ally, Kim
Jong-il, and install a saner regime in North Korea, the authors write.
The authoritarian rule of Syria's leader, Bashar Assad, should also be
ended, encouraged by shutting oil supplies from Iraq, seizing arms he buys
from Iran, and raids into Syria to hunt terrorists.
The authors urge Mr Bush to "tell the truth about Saudi Arabia". Wealthy
Saudis, some of them royal princes, fund al-Qa'eda, they write.
The Saudi government backs "terror-tainted Islamic organisations" as part of
a larger campaign to "spread its extremist version of Islam throughout the
Muslim world and into Europe and North America".
The book calls for tough action against France and its dreams of offsetting
US power. "We should force European governments to choose between Paris and
Washington," it states. Britain's independence from Europe should be
preserved, perhaps with open access for British arms to American defence
markets.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/31/wcons31.xm
l&sSheet=/portal/2003/12/31/ixportaltop.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=1
20459
--
CBS reporter David Martin revealed that weeks before the attacks, the CIA
had warned Bush personally of Osama Bin Laden's intent to use hijacked
planes as missiles. That followed the damaging exposure by The Associated
Press's John Solomon of a pre-9/11 FBI memo from an officer in Phoenix
warning of suspicious Middle Eastern men training at flight schools-a
warning that went unheeded.
http://www.inthesetimes.com/comments.php?id=340_0_1_0_C
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| User: "DemsHaveNoFriends" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCons demand getting tough with terrorist nations |
01 Jan 2004 10:30:47 AM |
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"NotBush2004" <notbush@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:9cf6d147ba716b0669fecc4627dbaa17@news.teranews.com...
WASHINGTON -- President George W Bush was sent a public manifesto
yesterday
by Washington's hawks, demanding regime change in Syria and Iran and a
Cuba-style military blockade of North Korea backed by planning for a
pre-emptive strike on its nuclear sites.
The manifesto, presented as a "manual for victory" in the war on terror,
also calls for Saudi Arabia and France to be treated not as allies but as
rivals and possibly enemies.
Good for the NeoCons (whoever they are) and it's about time!
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| User: "NoPlutocracyUSA" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCons demand getting tough with terrorist nations |
01 Jan 2004 11:18:05 AM |
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"DemsHaveNoFriends" <DemLosers@dnc.com> wrote in message
news:XWXIb.92251$VB2.202348@attbi_s51...
"NotBush2004" <notbush@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:9cf6d147ba716b0669fecc4627dbaa17@news.teranews.com...
WASHINGTON -- President George W Bush was sent a public manifesto
yesterday
by Washington's hawks, demanding regime change in Syria and Iran and a
Cuba-style military blockade of North Korea backed by planning for a
pre-emptive strike on its nuclear sites.
The manifesto, presented as a "manual for victory" in the war on terror,
also calls for Saudi Arabia and France to be treated not as allies but
as
rivals and possibly enemies.
Good for the NeoCons (whoever they are) and it's about time!
Just what America needs: more enemies and more wars.
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| User: "DemsHaveNoFriends" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCons demand getting tough with terrorist nations |
01 Jan 2004 12:03:34 PM |
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"NoPlutocracyUSA" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
news:CPednSy5UJPRy2mi4p2dnA@speakeasy.net...
"DemsHaveNoFriends" <DemLosers@dnc.com> wrote in message
news:XWXIb.92251$VB2.202348@attbi_s51...
"NotBush2004" <notbush@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:9cf6d147ba716b0669fecc4627dbaa17@news.teranews.com...
WASHINGTON -- President George W Bush was sent a public manifesto
yesterday
by Washington's hawks, demanding regime change in Syria and Iran and a
Cuba-style military blockade of North Korea backed by planning for a
pre-emptive strike on its nuclear sites.
The manifesto, presented as a "manual for victory" in the war on
terror,
also calls for Saudi Arabia and France to be treated not as allies but
as
rivals and possibly enemies.
Good for the NeoCons (whoever they are) and it's about time!
Just what America needs: more enemies and more wars.
If Saudi Arabia or France are already are enemies, then your claim of "more
enemies" is of course meaningless.
Also, who told you we are now at war with Saudi Arabia and France? I
suggest you find yourself a better news source, whoever it was.
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| User: "steve" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCons demand more war for 2004. |
01 Jan 2004 01:13:24 PM |
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 15:46:35 +0000, NotBush2004 wrote:
S Hawks Present War Manifesto To Bush
Tell Bush How To Win War On Terror
By David Rennie
The Telegraph - UK
12-31-3
WASHINGTON -- President George W Bush was sent a public manifesto yesterday
by Washington's hawks, demanding regime change in Syria and Iran and a
Cuba-style military blockade of North Korea backed by planning for a
pre-emptive strike on its nuclear sites.
The manifesto, presented as a "manual for victory" in the war on terror,
also calls for Saudi Arabia and France to be treated not as allies but as
rivals and possibly enemies.
This is a prescription for the development of a powerful
enemy....andeventual world war in - say - 5-10 years.
Bush is an unbelievable fuckwit.
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| User: "DemsHaveNoFriends" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCons demand more Democrat Party losses in 2004. |
01 Jan 2004 01:50:21 PM |
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"steve" <steve@whoknowswut.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.01.19.13.23.259832@whoknowswut.org...
Bush is an unbelievable fuckwit.
The Democrats' election strategy is clear - "Vote for us Democrats because
we feel Bush is an unbelievable fuckwit."
With such a profound demonstration of leadership skills on their part, how
can the Democrats possibly lose the 2004 elections. Yes, the Democrats are
really on a roll now, and have nothing to worry about......
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCons demand more war for 2004. |
01 Jan 2004 07:03:09 PM |
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In article <pan.2004.01.01.19.13.23.259832@whoknowswut.org>, steve says...
On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 15:46:35 +0000, NotBush2004 wrote:
S Hawks Present War Manifesto To Bush
Tell Bush How To Win War On Terror
By David Rennie
The Telegraph - UK
12-31-3
WASHINGTON -- President George W Bush was sent a public manifesto yesterday
by Washington's hawks, demanding regime change in Syria and Iran and a
Cuba-style military blockade of North Korea backed by planning for a
pre-emptive strike on its nuclear sites.
The manifesto, presented as a "manual for victory" in the war on terror,
also calls for Saudi Arabia and France to be treated not as allies but as
rivals and possibly enemies.
This is a prescription for the development of a powerful
enemy....andeventual world war in - say - 5-10 years.
Bush is an unbelievable fuckwit.
Bush is merely a lacky. He isn't smart enough to imagine a grand scheme for
world domination. He just does what the Imperial Corporate War Machine tells him
to do.
Katryn
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| User: "William Flax" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCons demand more war for 2004. |
01 Jan 2004 10:11:48 AM |
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This sounds more like a prescription for helping the terrorists to recruit
than a way to win the war on terror. It is difficult to even conceptualize
a rationale for our meddling with Syria--other than to increase Moslem
hatred for America;--while for historic reasons, any American involvement
with Iran must be very, very carefully considered.
I do believe that we need to toughen our response to Korea; but would not
trust these poseurs to be in on the planning. We could probably obtain some
pretty sound insights from our allies in Japan & South Korea, however. It
is they not a Canadian pseudo-intellectual, like David Frum, who have the
most at stake.
The best way to fight the War on Terror, of course, is the one I outlined at
the outset : http://pages.prodigy.net/krtq73aa/terror.htm.
William Flax
"NotBush2004" <notbush@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:9cf6d147ba716b0669fecc4627dbaa17@news.teranews.com...
US Hawks Present War Manifesto To Bush
Tell Bush How To Win War On Terror
By David Rennie
The Telegraph - UK
12-31-3
WASHINGTON -- President George W Bush was sent a public manifesto
yesterday
by Washington's hawks, demanding regime change in Syria and Iran and a
Cuba-style military blockade of North Korea backed by planning for a
pre-emptive strike on its nuclear sites.
The manifesto, presented as a "manual for victory" in the war on terror,
also calls for Saudi Arabia and France to be treated not as allies but as
rivals and possibly enemies.
The manifesto is contained in a new book by Richard Perle, a Pentagon
adviser and "intellectual guru" of the hardline neo-conservative movement,
and David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter. They give warning of a
faltering
of the "will to win" in Washington.
In the battle for the president's ear, the manifesto represents an attempt
by hawks to break out of the post-Iraq doldrums and strike back at what
they
see as a campaign of hostile leaking by their foes in such centres of
caution as the State Department or in the military top brass.
Their publication, An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror, coincided
with the latest broadside from the hawks' enemy number one, Colin Powell,
the secretary of state.
Though on leave recovering from a prostate cancer operation, Mr Powell
summoned reporters to his bedside to hail "encouraging" signs of a "new
attitude" in Iran and call for the United States to keep open the prospect
of dialogue with the Teheran authorities.
Such talk is anathema to hawks like Mr Perle and Mr Frum who urge
Washington
to shun the mullahs and work for their overthrow in concert with Iranian
dissidents.
It may be assumed that their instincts at least are shared by hawks inside
the government, whose twin power bases are the Pentagon's civilian
leadership and the office of the vice-president, ***** Cheney.
Such officials prevailed over invading Afghanistan and Iraq, but have been
seen as on the back foot since the autumn as their post-war visions of
building a secular, free-market Iraq were scaled back in favour of
compromise and a swift handover of power next June.
The book demands that any talks with North Korea require the complete and
immediate abandonment of its nuclear programme.
As North Korea will probably refuse such terms, the book urges a
Cuba-style
military blockade and overt preparations for war, including the rapid
pullback of US forces from the inter-Korean border so that they move out
of
range of North Korean artillery.
Such steps, with luck, will prompt China to oust its nominal ally, Kim
Jong-il, and install a saner regime in North Korea, the authors write.
The authoritarian rule of Syria's leader, Bashar Assad, should also be
ended, encouraged by shutting oil supplies from Iraq, seizing arms he buys
from Iran, and raids into Syria to hunt terrorists.
The authors urge Mr Bush to "tell the truth about Saudi Arabia". Wealthy
Saudis, some of them royal princes, fund al-Qa'eda, they write.
The Saudi government backs "terror-tainted Islamic organisations" as part
of
a larger campaign to "spread its extremist version of Islam throughout the
Muslim world and into Europe and North America".
The book calls for tough action against France and its dreams of
offsetting
US power. "We should force European governments to choose between Paris
and
Washington," it states. Britain's independence from Europe should be
preserved, perhaps with open access for British arms to American defence
markets.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/31/wcons31.xm
l&sSheet=/portal/2003/12/31/ixportaltop.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=1
20459
--
CBS reporter David Martin revealed that weeks before the attacks, the CIA
had warned Bush personally of Osama Bin Laden's intent to use hijacked
planes as missiles. That followed the damaging exposure by The Associated
Press's John Solomon of a pre-9/11 FBI memo from an officer in Phoenix
warning of suspicious Middle Eastern men training at flight schools-a
warning that went unheeded.
http://www.inthesetimes.com/comments.php?id=340_0_1_0_C
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| User: "DemsHaveNoFriends" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCons demand a firm hand in dealing with terrorists |
01 Jan 2004 10:30:48 AM |
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"William Flax" <krtq73aa@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:8FXIb.46110$Cb5.39555@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
This sounds more like a prescription for helping the terrorists to recruit
than a way to win the war on terror. It is difficult to even
conceptualize
a rationale for our meddling with Syria--other than to increase Moslem
hatred for America;--while for historic reasons, any American involvement
with Iran must be very, very carefully considered.
Any idea how Dean or Kerry would specifically handle this?
I do believe that we need to toughen our response to Korea; but would not
trust these poseurs to be in on the planning. We could probably obtain
some
pretty sound insights from our allies in Japan & South Korea, however.
Do you think either Dean or Kerry agree with you on that?
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