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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Harry Hope"
Date: 03 Aug 2003 03:39:42 PM
Object: Nevada Republican in deep doodoo for voting for tax increase.

From The Associated Press, 8/3/03:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nevada/2003/aug/03/080310698.html
Nevada Republican's tax vote decision divisive
ASSOCIATED PRESS
BATTLE MOUNTAIN, Nev. (AP) -
Out here in cowboy country, folks aren't supposed to utter a
discouraging word about anybody, let alone a native son such as
Republican Assemblyman John Marvel.
But when you switch your vote and allow an $836 million tax increase
to be passed, some of your friends and neighbors will say anything.
"I am disgusted with John Marvel," warehouse owner Randy Clark said
last week as he and his buddies swapped stories outside a hardware
store.
"He flip-flopped. The taxes are going to hurt everyone, especially in
a struggling area like Battle Mountain."
Marvel cast the deciding vote July 21 to break the seven-week impasse
in the Legislature over taxes and public school funding.
The Assembly passed the bill 28-14 moments after the Senate approved
it 17-2, maintaining the constitutional requirement that taxes receive
two-thirds support in both houses.
Hardware store owner Steve Seldin said Marvel has been a regular
customer for years.
The tax increases will force Seldin to think twice before hiring new
employees.
"Business is way down," he said.
"The taxes will push us over the edge."
Of the 20 people interviewed last week by the Las Vegas Review-Journal
outside Battle Mountain's stores, the Little League baseball field and
community pool, 14 objected to Marvel's vote.
Another 10 said they were not aware of what happened in the
Legislature.
Men were near unanimous in their objections.
But there was some support for Marvel, a 76-year-old lifelong rancher.
Women, mostly mothers and grandmothers, backed Marvel, contending
higher taxes are necessary to pay for schools and hire teachers.
"I am happy with John," said retired teacher Virginia Hinton, drying
off after a dip in the pool.
"We have been losing good teachers. I don't think taxes are too high."
Hinton and others said Battle Mountain schools lost four experienced
teachers over the summer because the public schools budget remained in
jeopardy until the tax increases were approved.
Marvel is the patriarch of the Assembly, first taking his seat in
1979.
Over the years, he often has won re-election without opposition, or
faced token third party candidates.
He is contemplating running again next year.
Marvel, who owns a condominium in Carson City with his wife, said he
plans on returning to Battle Mountain and explaining to his
constituents why he supported the tax increase.
Unless he voted for the increase, Marvel said, Democratic leaders in
the Assembly were ready to revive and pass a Senate-approved bill to
increase taxes by $873 million.
That bill contained a 1 percent tax on payrolls, a 1 percent room tax
and a 3 percent tax on bank profits.
The bill he supported imposes a 0.7 percent tax on payrolls but has no
income tax on banks and no room tax.
"Everyone thinks I caved, but I didn't cave," Marvel said.
"We negotiated all day, and it wasn't getting any better. Nobody was
going to give. There was a lot of viciousness there. I don't mind
taking the heat."
Marvel figured he was in a better position politically to withstand
voter backlash over a tax increase than a Republican freshman.
"I thought I was helping some of the freshmen out," he said.
"I can still sleep at night. Nobody likes criticism, but it is part of
the game when you are in politics."
Marvel said his vote ensured rural schools, as well as schools across
Nevada, will open on time this month and have money to hire teachers.
"I have received a lot of calls from the business community, from
banks," he said.
"They say they can live with the tax bill. It doesn't have a gross
receipts tax, an income tax, or a franchise tax. It was the best tax
bill we could get."
Retired Battle Mountain maintenance worker Max Rogers understands that
view.
As he walked with his grandson to watch a youth baseball game, Rogers
declared Marvel still has his vote.
"I'm a Democrat and I vote for the best man," said the father of 15.
"I have always voted for John. You can't always get what you want. He
does what he thinks is right."
________________________________________________________
John Marvel ain't no hack politician, just a rare and pragmatic
politician with the courage of his convictions.
Harry
.

User: "OldAsDirtSchool"

Title: Re: Nevada Republican in deep doodoo for voting for tax increase. 06 Aug 2003 01:50:05 AM
CM wrote:

Oh,I'm sorry.he already is in that party.

LOL!!!!

It is difficult to laugh while reading most of this stuff because I have
a daughter who will inherit the crushing debt that the party of personal
responsibility is leaving her, but that was funny.

"CM" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:udmdnShrLKWjErCiXTWJgA@comcast.com...

Federal spending has increased 22% under Duhbya.the last Clinton budget


only

grew 2%.wow! cutting revenues and increasing spending is a recipe for
disaster.maybe Duhbya should switch to the idiot ***** party.

"JimmyD" <jrd@starkiller.org> wrote in message
news:3F2D7C60.496A8235@starkiller.org...


Harry Hope wrote:


From The Associated Press, 8/3/03:


http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nevada/2003/aug/03/080310698.html

Nevada Republican's tax vote decision divisive

ASSOCIATED PRESS

BATTLE MOUNTAIN, Nev. (AP) -

Out here in cowboy country, folks aren't supposed to utter a
discouraging word about anybody, let alone a native son such as
Republican Assemblyman John Marvel.

But when you switch your vote and allow an $836 million tax increase
to be passed, some of your friends and neighbors will say anything.

"I am disgusted with John Marvel," warehouse owner Randy Clark said
last week as he and his buddies swapped stories outside a hardware
store.

"He flip-flopped. The taxes are going to hurt everyone, especially in
a struggling area like Battle Mountain."

Marvel cast the deciding vote July 21 to break the seven-week impasse
in the Legislature over taxes and public school funding.

The Assembly passed the bill 28-14 moments after the Senate approved
it 17-2, maintaining the constitutional requirement that taxes receive
two-thirds support in both houses.

Hardware store owner Steve Seldin said Marvel has been a regular
customer for years.

The tax increases will force Seldin to think twice before hiring new
employees.

"Business is way down," he said.

"The taxes will push us over the edge."

Of the 20 people interviewed last week by the Las Vegas Review-Journal
outside Battle Mountain's stores, the Little League baseball field and
community pool, 14 objected to Marvel's vote.

Another 10 said they were not aware of what happened in the
Legislature.

Men were near unanimous in their objections.

But there was some support for Marvel, a 76-year-old lifelong rancher.

Women, mostly mothers and grandmothers, backed Marvel, contending
higher taxes are necessary to pay for schools and hire teachers.

"I am happy with John," said retired teacher Virginia Hinton, drying
off after a dip in the pool.

"We have been losing good teachers. I don't think taxes are too high."

Hinton and others said Battle Mountain schools lost four experienced
teachers over the summer because the public schools budget remained in
jeopardy until the tax increases were approved.

Marvel is the patriarch of the Assembly, first taking his seat in
1979.

Over the years, he often has won re-election without opposition, or
faced token third party candidates.

He is contemplating running again next year.

Marvel, who owns a condominium in Carson City with his wife, said he
plans on returning to Battle Mountain and explaining to his
constituents why he supported the tax increase.

Unless he voted for the increase, Marvel said, Democratic leaders in
the Assembly were ready to revive and pass a Senate-approved bill to
increase taxes by $873 million.

That bill contained a 1 percent tax on payrolls, a 1 percent room tax
and a 3 percent tax on bank profits.

The bill he supported imposes a 0.7 percent tax on payrolls but has no
income tax on banks and no room tax.

"Everyone thinks I caved, but I didn't cave," Marvel said.

"We negotiated all day, and it wasn't getting any better. Nobody was
going to give. There was a lot of viciousness there. I don't mind
taking the heat."

Marvel figured he was in a better position politically to withstand
voter backlash over a tax increase than a Republican freshman.

"I thought I was helping some of the freshmen out," he said.

"I can still sleep at night. Nobody likes criticism, but it is part of
the game when you are in politics."

Marvel said his vote ensured rural schools, as well as schools across
Nevada, will open on time this month and have money to hire teachers.

"I have received a lot of calls from the business community, from
banks," he said.

"They say they can live with the tax bill. It doesn't have a gross
receipts tax, an income tax, or a franchise tax. It was the best tax
bill we could get."

Retired Battle Mountain maintenance worker Max Rogers understands that
view.

As he walked with his grandson to watch a youth baseball game, Rogers
declared Marvel still has his vote.

"I'm a Democrat and I vote for the best man," said the father of 15.

"I have always voted for John. You can't always get what you want. He
does what he thinks is right."

________________________________________________________

John Marvel ain't no hack politician, just a rare and pragmatic
politician with the courage of his convictions.

Harry


Wrong Harry, he should switch to the democratic party where he belongs






.

User: "Eugene Kent"

Title: Re: Nevada Republican in deep doodoo for voting for tax increase. 03 Aug 2003 04:42:26 PM
Have you notice that it is in the Republican controlled states that taxes
were raised after Bush claimed to have lowered taxes.
So much for the repubrats claim of Democrats tax and spend ranting.
"JimmyD" <jrd@starkiller.org> wrote in message
news:3F2D7C60.496A8235@starkiller.org...



Harry Hope wrote:


From The Associated Press, 8/3/03:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nevada/2003/aug/03/080310698.html


Nevada Republican's tax vote decision divisive

ASSOCIATED PRESS

BATTLE MOUNTAIN, Nev. (AP) -

Out here in cowboy country, folks aren't supposed to utter a
discouraging word about anybody, let alone a native son such as
Republican Assemblyman John Marvel.

But when you switch your vote and allow an $836 million tax increase
to be passed, some of your friends and neighbors will say anything.

"I am disgusted with John Marvel," warehouse owner Randy Clark said
last week as he and his buddies swapped stories outside a hardware
store.

"He flip-flopped. The taxes are going to hurt everyone, especially in
a struggling area like Battle Mountain."

Marvel cast the deciding vote July 21 to break the seven-week impasse
in the Legislature over taxes and public school funding.

The Assembly passed the bill 28-14 moments after the Senate approved
it 17-2, maintaining the constitutional requirement that taxes receive
two-thirds support in both houses.

Hardware store owner Steve Seldin said Marvel has been a regular
customer for years.

The tax increases will force Seldin to think twice before hiring new
employees.

"Business is way down," he said.

"The taxes will push us over the edge."

Of the 20 people interviewed last week by the Las Vegas Review-Journal
outside Battle Mountain's stores, the Little League baseball field and
community pool, 14 objected to Marvel's vote.

Another 10 said they were not aware of what happened in the
Legislature.

Men were near unanimous in their objections.

But there was some support for Marvel, a 76-year-old lifelong rancher.

Women, mostly mothers and grandmothers, backed Marvel, contending
higher taxes are necessary to pay for schools and hire teachers.

"I am happy with John," said retired teacher Virginia Hinton, drying
off after a dip in the pool.

"We have been losing good teachers. I don't think taxes are too high."

Hinton and others said Battle Mountain schools lost four experienced
teachers over the summer because the public schools budget remained in
jeopardy until the tax increases were approved.

Marvel is the patriarch of the Assembly, first taking his seat in
1979.

Over the years, he often has won re-election without opposition, or
faced token third party candidates.

He is contemplating running again next year.

Marvel, who owns a condominium in Carson City with his wife, said he
plans on returning to Battle Mountain and explaining to his
constituents why he supported the tax increase.

Unless he voted for the increase, Marvel said, Democratic leaders in
the Assembly were ready to revive and pass a Senate-approved bill to
increase taxes by $873 million.

That bill contained a 1 percent tax on payrolls, a 1 percent room tax
and a 3 percent tax on bank profits.

The bill he supported imposes a 0.7 percent tax on payrolls but has no
income tax on banks and no room tax.

"Everyone thinks I caved, but I didn't cave," Marvel said.

"We negotiated all day, and it wasn't getting any better. Nobody was
going to give. There was a lot of viciousness there. I don't mind
taking the heat."

Marvel figured he was in a better position politically to withstand
voter backlash over a tax increase than a Republican freshman.

"I thought I was helping some of the freshmen out," he said.

"I can still sleep at night. Nobody likes criticism, but it is part of
the game when you are in politics."

Marvel said his vote ensured rural schools, as well as schools across
Nevada, will open on time this month and have money to hire teachers.

"I have received a lot of calls from the business community, from
banks," he said.

"They say they can live with the tax bill. It doesn't have a gross
receipts tax, an income tax, or a franchise tax. It was the best tax
bill we could get."

Retired Battle Mountain maintenance worker Max Rogers understands that
view.

As he walked with his grandson to watch a youth baseball game, Rogers
declared Marvel still has his vote.

"I'm a Democrat and I vote for the best man," said the father of 15.

"I have always voted for John. You can't always get what you want. He
does what he thinks is right."

________________________________________________________

John Marvel ain't no hack politician, just a rare and pragmatic
politician with the courage of his convictions.

Harry


Wrong Harry, he should switch to the democratic party where he belongs


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