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"Noahs Dove" |
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27 Jul 2006 11:39:31 AM |
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New Indicting Evidence Of The 911 Coverup |
New Indicting Evidence
Of The 911 Coverup
From Craig T. Furlong
cfurlong1@socal.rr.com
7-26-6
The following information was emailed tonight, 07/25/06, to Drs. Fetzer
and Jones with Scholars for 9/11 Truth.
Hello, Drs. Fetzer and Jones,
Thank you for all your efforts and hard work in getting at the real
truth about 9/11.
I discovered last night information I think you should see. It is about
the discrepancy in the precise times of the airplane impacts into the
Towers:
Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University vs the 9/11
Commission Report.
The bottom line (I am a corporate controller) is that according to the
differences, the seismic readings happened before the planes hit.
Last night and tonight I sent two posts to Liberty Forum about this,
and so I am copying and pasting them here for you (as they tell the
entire matter; or at least enough to get you thinking).
I have looked high and low, but can not find this new information
anywhere on the internet.
Post to Conspiracy 911 7/24/06
WTC7 must be the focal point to exposing the govt's coverup...HOWEVER
I'd like to take a sharp turn if I may and give you something else to
think about:
The official 9/11 Commission Report (your tax dollars wasted) states
the following:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/
Impact time, AA Flt 11: 8:46:40 a.m.
Impact time, UA Flt 175: 9:03:11 a.m.
........HOWEVER,
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq/20010911_wtc.html
the official data readings from Lamont-Doherty give the following
seismic events:
time 8:46:26: 0.9 Richter, signal duration 12 seconds [reported as
first impact, WTC1]
time 9:02:54: 0.7 Richter, signal duration 6 seconds [reported as
second impact, WTC2]
Conclusion:
Two notable seismic events occurred before the planes ever hit the
towers and were so close timewise to the actual impacts of the planes
that Lamont-Doherty reported them as the impacts. The logical
conclusion (which coincides with many eyewitnesses in the basements,
e.g., William Rodriquez) is that these were explosives detonated to
coincide with the aircraft hitting the towers. They were very close to
getting the timing right. This is one time I'm going to believe the
gov't; I think their times are correct, down to the second!
And, oh yes, getting back to WTC7, it did have quite a conflagration of
fire that day on the south side of the building, and yes, it did have
fairly large damage to the south face from debris of WTC1 hitting
it...HOWEVER, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that these
caused it to collapse IN NEAR-PERFECT SYMMETRY EXACTLY LIKE A
CONTROLLED DEMOLITION; there is also no evidence to back a claim that
support trusses for the floors 5 through 7 were damaged so as to cause
the building to collapse.
Putting hypotheticals and conjectures aside (which are not evidence),
we do have the fact that WTC7 fell in near-perfect symmetry at
free-fall speed, exactly like a classic controlled demolition, and this
is for all the world to see.
ONE OTHER THING: if you view the video "Eyewitness 9/11", you will see
indisputable evidence by scientific sound analysis of the collapse of
WTC1 that shows massive explosions occurred before the tower began to
collapse; and, as would be expected, the first notable came from the
basement.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-349898043858
7461603&q=9%2F11+eyewitness
A real investigation is needed NOW, and not like the first disgraceful
one that didn't even resemble one.
Post to Conspiracy 911 7/25/06
Hiya, SlackerSlayer,
I read it differently. Here is what the Commission wrote about its
task:
"The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States,
an independent, bipartisan commission created by congressional
legislation and the signature of President George W. Bush in late 2002,
is chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the
circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks,
including preparedness for and the immediate response to the attacks.
The Commission is also mandated to provide recommendations designed to
guard against future attacks."
They failed miserably in the "full and complete account" part.
(see David Ray Griffin: "9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and
Distortions")
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-398081814159578985
BTW, I can't find evidence anywhere on the internet about the
information contained herein this post, about the discrepancy of time
of plane impacts [Lamont-Doherty vs the 9/11 Commission Report].
I discovered this last night when I thought it funny that
Lamont-Doherty could even pickup seismic data from airplane impacts 80
floors up in the air. I thought that most of the energy would be
absorbed by the building before it got down to the ground, so how could
Lamont-Doherty pick up a seismic reading? That's when I noticed the
time of impacts were precise and thought, "Hmm, I wonder what the
official government times are for the impacts?...and are they precise
also?...and, what if they're different?"
OK, I admit it; I was hoping I could find more evidence of duplicity
and coverup.
AFTER ALL, WE ARE DEALING WITH MURDER AND TREASON
So, I ended up with this: The seismic readings happened before the
planes hitHow could this be? What does this mean?
I can only come up with one conclusion: VERY LARGE EXPLOSION(S).
The Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University has its
data precise to plus or minus one second, and just now I found that the
9/11 Commission based their times on FAA radar data and air traffic
control software logic. (see note 130 in this link):
http://www.insightful.com/infact/911/corpus/report_470_460.html
Actually, it was you who got this going, SlackerSlayer! You were
questioning the claim from the skeptics that it took 18 seconds for
WTC7 to come down in, and I knew they were referring (deceptively I
might add) to the Lamont-Doherty data because I had seen it last week.
When I went back to that data is when I found this huge discrepancy
that leads directly to government coverup.
Thanks for your efforts, my friend.
FYI, I am forwarding this to the Scholars immediately because they have
the best group going right now, and we are all in this together whether
we like it or not.
Craig T. Furlong
Huntington Beach, California
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| User: "Nuki Mouse" |
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| Title: Re: New Indicting Evidence Of The 911 Coverup |
27 Jul 2006 02:01:15 PM |
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"Noah's Dove" <noahdove7@lightspeed.ca> wrote in message
news:1154018371.182228.306720@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
New Indicting Evidence
....of just how stupid some people can be.
1st off (as F. Arthur already noted) this would require the rigging of a
massive amount of explosives and an intricate network of wires to denote
them, yet none of the thousands of WTC survivors saw any of it.
2nd that (almost) NO ONE out of MANY thousand in or around the WTC notice
explosions massive enough to register on a seismic recorder 6 to 12 seconds
BEFORE the plane crashes. Yes I know that there are a few attention whores
that "claim" they heard explosives going off before the 1st plane crash, but
for everyone of them there are hundreds of other witnesses that were at or
near them (the attention whores) that DIDN'T.
3rd the times of the plane strikes in the 9/11 are ESTIMATES of the exact
crash times. This was due to MANY sources of the crash times, some up to a
minute before or after each other. The 9/11 commission final used the
FAA/Air Traffic control radar to best estimate the time. The fact this
could be 6 to 12 seconds off from a seismic recorder is to be expected.
Like all other "evidence" of a WTC conspiracy, it basically boils down to
"someone" heard this or that, an the opinion of an "expert" whose background
is not in building fires, plane crashes, or building demolitions, or "that
looks like...____ " (fill in the blank latest crazy deluded "theory.")
In other words, no real evidence at all.
Nuki Mouse
--
"This is just my opinion, I maybe wrong" D. Miller
"Defend free speech! Read a banned book today!" unknown.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death
your right to say it," S. Tallentyre, summarizing Voltaire's views.
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| User: "Seethis Pass" |
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| Title: Re: New Indicting Evidence Of The 911 Coverup |
28 Jul 2006 07:11:17 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:01:15 -0400, "Nuki Mouse"
<Nuki_mouse@NoSpam.com> wrote:
"Noah's Dove" <noahdove7@lightspeed.ca> wrote in message
news:1154018371.182228.306720@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
New Indicting Evidence
...of just how stupid some people can be.
1st off (as F. Arthur already noted) this would require the rigging of a
massive amount of explosives and an intricate network of wires to denote
them, yet none of the thousands of WTC survivors saw any of it.
2nd that (almost) NO ONE out of MANY thousand in or around the WTC notice
explosions massive enough to register on a seismic recorder 6 to 12 seconds
BEFORE the plane crashes. Yes I know that there are a few attention whores
that "claim" they heard explosives going off before the 1st plane crash, but
for everyone of them there are hundreds of other witnesses that were at or
near them (the attention whores) that DIDN'T.
3rd the times of the plane strikes in the 9/11 are ESTIMATES of the exact
crash times. This was due to MANY sources of the crash times, some up to a
minute before or after each other. The 9/11 commission final used the
FAA/Air Traffic control radar to best estimate the time. The fact this
could be 6 to 12 seconds off from a seismic recorder is to be expected.
Like all other "evidence" of a WTC conspiracy, it basically boils down to
"someone" heard this or that, an the opinion of an "expert" whose background
is not in building fires, plane crashes, or building demolitions, or "that
looks like...____ " (fill in the blank latest crazy deluded "theory.")
In other words, no real evidence at all.
Nuki Mouse
See 9/11 Eyewitness and be one.
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| User: "Frank Arthur" |
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| Title: Re: New Indicting Evidence Of The 911 Coverup |
27 Jul 2006 12:27:03 PM |
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So someone sneaked into two of the WTC towers and brought in and wired up
many tons of explosives and not human being saw ANYTHING? Are you kidding!
"Noah's Dove" <noahdove7@lightspeed.ca> wrote in message
news:1154018371.182228.306720@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
New Indicting Evidence
Of The 911 Coverup
From Craig T. Furlong
cfurlong1@socal.rr.com
7-26-6
The following information was emailed tonight, 07/25/06, to Drs. Fetzer
and Jones with Scholars for 9/11 Truth.
Hello, Drs. Fetzer and Jones,
Thank you for all your efforts and hard work in getting at the real
truth about 9/11.
I discovered last night information I think you should see. It is about
the discrepancy in the precise times of the airplane impacts into the
Towers:
Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University vs the 9/11
Commission Report.
The bottom line (I am a corporate controller) is that according to the
differences, the seismic readings happened before the planes hit.
Last night and tonight I sent two posts to Liberty Forum about this,
and so I am copying and pasting them here for you (as they tell the
entire matter; or at least enough to get you thinking).
I have looked high and low, but can not find this new information
anywhere on the internet.
Post to Conspiracy 911 7/24/06
WTC7 must be the focal point to exposing the govt's coverup...HOWEVER
I'd like to take a sharp turn if I may and give you something else to
think about:
The official 9/11 Commission Report (your tax dollars wasted) states
the following:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/
Impact time, AA Flt 11: 8:46:40 a.m.
Impact time, UA Flt 175: 9:03:11 a.m.
.......HOWEVER,
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq/20010911_wtc.html
the official data readings from Lamont-Doherty give the following
seismic events:
time 8:46:26: 0.9 Richter, signal duration 12 seconds [reported as
first impact, WTC1]
time 9:02:54: 0.7 Richter, signal duration 6 seconds [reported as
second impact, WTC2]
Conclusion:
Two notable seismic events occurred before the planes ever hit the
towers and were so close timewise to the actual impacts of the planes
that Lamont-Doherty reported them as the impacts. The logical
conclusion (which coincides with many eyewitnesses in the basements,
e.g., William Rodriquez) is that these were explosives detonated to
coincide with the aircraft hitting the towers. They were very close to
getting the timing right. This is one time I'm going to believe the
gov't; I think their times are correct, down to the second!
And, oh yes, getting back to WTC7, it did have quite a conflagration of
fire that day on the south side of the building, and yes, it did have
fairly large damage to the south face from debris of WTC1 hitting
it...HOWEVER, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that these
caused it to collapse IN NEAR-PERFECT SYMMETRY EXACTLY LIKE A
CONTROLLED DEMOLITION; there is also no evidence to back a claim that
support trusses for the floors 5 through 7 were damaged so as to cause
the building to collapse.
Putting hypotheticals and conjectures aside (which are not evidence),
we do have the fact that WTC7 fell in near-perfect symmetry at
free-fall speed, exactly like a classic controlled demolition, and this
is for all the world to see.
ONE OTHER THING: if you view the video "Eyewitness 9/11", you will see
indisputable evidence by scientific sound analysis of the collapse of
WTC1 that shows massive explosions occurred before the tower began to
collapse; and, as would be expected, the first notable came from the
basement.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-349898043858
7461603&q=9%2F11+eyewitness
A real investigation is needed NOW, and not like the first disgraceful
one that didn't even resemble one.
Post to Conspiracy 911 7/25/06
Hiya, SlackerSlayer,
I read it differently. Here is what the Commission wrote about its
task:
"The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States,
an independent, bipartisan commission created by congressional
legislation and the signature of President George W. Bush in late 2002,
is chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the
circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks,
including preparedness for and the immediate response to the attacks.
The Commission is also mandated to provide recommendations designed to
guard against future attacks."
They failed miserably in the "full and complete account" part.
(see David Ray Griffin: "9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and
Distortions")
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-398081814159578985
BTW, I can't find evidence anywhere on the internet about the
information contained herein this post, about the discrepancy of time
of plane impacts [Lamont-Doherty vs the 9/11 Commission Report].
I discovered this last night when I thought it funny that
Lamont-Doherty could even pickup seismic data from airplane impacts 80
floors up in the air. I thought that most of the energy would be
absorbed by the building before it got down to the ground, so how could
Lamont-Doherty pick up a seismic reading? That's when I noticed the
time of impacts were precise and thought, "Hmm, I wonder what the
official government times are for the impacts?...and are they precise
also?...and, what if they're different?"
OK, I admit it; I was hoping I could find more evidence of duplicity
and coverup.
AFTER ALL, WE ARE DEALING WITH MURDER AND TREASON
So, I ended up with this: The seismic readings happened before the
planes hitHow could this be? What does this mean?
I can only come up with one conclusion: VERY LARGE EXPLOSION(S).
The Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University has its
data precise to plus or minus one second, and just now I found that the
9/11 Commission based their times on FAA radar data and air traffic
control software logic. (see note 130 in this link):
http://www.insightful.com/infact/911/corpus/report_470_460.html
Actually, it was you who got this going, SlackerSlayer! You were
questioning the claim from the skeptics that it took 18 seconds for
WTC7 to come down in, and I knew they were referring (deceptively I
might add) to the Lamont-Doherty data because I had seen it last week.
When I went back to that data is when I found this huge discrepancy
that leads directly to government coverup.
Thanks for your efforts, my friend.
FYI, I am forwarding this to the Scholars immediately because they have
the best group going right now, and we are all in this together whether
we like it or not.
Craig T. Furlong
Huntington Beach, California
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| User: "What Me Worry?" |
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| Title: Re: New Indicting Evidence Of The 911 Coverup |
27 Jul 2006 08:33:18 PM |
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"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
news:2E6yg.20808$ZH1.14642@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
So someone sneaked into two of the WTC towers and brought in and wired up
many tons of explosives and not human being saw ANYTHING? Are you kidding!
1) ALL available evidence points to explosive demolition.
2) Explosives didn't likely arrive all at once.
3) A little thermite goes a long way when cutting steel beams.
4) How many occupants were in the WTC at night? Weekends?
5) What type of workers have access to the building's core accessways?
6) Which member of the Bush family was a board member of WTC's security
company?
7) Why did WTC security remove the bomb-sniffing dogs from the premises just
a few weeks before 9/11/01?
"Noah's Dove" <noahdove7@lightspeed.ca> wrote in message
news:1154018371.182228.306720@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
New Indicting Evidence
Of The 911 Coverup
From Craig T. Furlong
cfurlong1@socal.rr.com
7-26-6
The following information was emailed tonight, 07/25/06, to Drs. Fetzer
and Jones with Scholars for 9/11 Truth.
Hello, Drs. Fetzer and Jones,
Thank you for all your efforts and hard work in getting at the real
truth about 9/11.
I discovered last night information I think you should see. It is about
the discrepancy in the precise times of the airplane impacts into the
Towers:
Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University vs the 9/11
Commission Report.
The bottom line (I am a corporate controller) is that according to the
differences, the seismic readings happened before the planes hit.
Last night and tonight I sent two posts to Liberty Forum about this,
and so I am copying and pasting them here for you (as they tell the
entire matter; or at least enough to get you thinking).
I have looked high and low, but can not find this new information
anywhere on the internet.
Post to Conspiracy 911 7/24/06
WTC7 must be the focal point to exposing the govt's coverup...HOWEVER
I'd like to take a sharp turn if I may and give you something else to
think about:
The official 9/11 Commission Report (your tax dollars wasted) states
the following:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/
Impact time, AA Flt 11: 8:46:40 a.m.
Impact time, UA Flt 175: 9:03:11 a.m.
.......HOWEVER,
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq/20010911_wtc.html
the official data readings from Lamont-Doherty give the following
seismic events:
time 8:46:26: 0.9 Richter, signal duration 12 seconds [reported as
first impact, WTC1]
time 9:02:54: 0.7 Richter, signal duration 6 seconds [reported as
second impact, WTC2]
Conclusion:
Two notable seismic events occurred before the planes ever hit the
towers and were so close timewise to the actual impacts of the planes
that Lamont-Doherty reported them as the impacts. The logical
conclusion (which coincides with many eyewitnesses in the basements,
e.g., William Rodriquez) is that these were explosives detonated to
coincide with the aircraft hitting the towers. They were very close to
getting the timing right. This is one time I'm going to believe the
gov't; I think their times are correct, down to the second!
And, oh yes, getting back to WTC7, it did have quite a conflagration of
fire that day on the south side of the building, and yes, it did have
fairly large damage to the south face from debris of WTC1 hitting
it...HOWEVER, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that these
caused it to collapse IN NEAR-PERFECT SYMMETRY EXACTLY LIKE A
CONTROLLED DEMOLITION; there is also no evidence to back a claim that
support trusses for the floors 5 through 7 were damaged so as to cause
the building to collapse.
Putting hypotheticals and conjectures aside (which are not evidence),
we do have the fact that WTC7 fell in near-perfect symmetry at
free-fall speed, exactly like a classic controlled demolition, and this
is for all the world to see.
ONE OTHER THING: if you view the video "Eyewitness 9/11", you will see
indisputable evidence by scientific sound analysis of the collapse of
WTC1 that shows massive explosions occurred before the tower began to
collapse; and, as would be expected, the first notable came from the
basement.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-349898043858
7461603&q=9%2F11+eyewitness
A real investigation is needed NOW, and not like the first disgraceful
one that didn't even resemble one.
Post to Conspiracy 911 7/25/06
Hiya, SlackerSlayer,
I read it differently. Here is what the Commission wrote about its
task:
"The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States,
an independent, bipartisan commission created by congressional
legislation and the signature of President George W. Bush in late 2002,
is chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the
circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks,
including preparedness for and the immediate response to the attacks.
The Commission is also mandated to provide recommendations designed to
guard against future attacks."
They failed miserably in the "full and complete account" part.
(see David Ray Griffin: "9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and
Distortions")
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-398081814159578985
BTW, I can't find evidence anywhere on the internet about the
information contained herein this post, about the discrepancy of time
of plane impacts [Lamont-Doherty vs the 9/11 Commission Report].
I discovered this last night when I thought it funny that
Lamont-Doherty could even pickup seismic data from airplane impacts 80
floors up in the air. I thought that most of the energy would be
absorbed by the building before it got down to the ground, so how could
Lamont-Doherty pick up a seismic reading? That's when I noticed the
time of impacts were precise and thought, "Hmm, I wonder what the
official government times are for the impacts?...and are they precise
also?...and, what if they're different?"
OK, I admit it; I was hoping I could find more evidence of duplicity
and coverup.
AFTER ALL, WE ARE DEALING WITH MURDER AND TREASON
So, I ended up with this: The seismic readings happened before the
planes hitHow could this be? What does this mean?
I can only come up with one conclusion: VERY LARGE EXPLOSION(S).
The Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University has its
data precise to plus or minus one second, and just now I found that the
9/11 Commission based their times on FAA radar data and air traffic
control software logic. (see note 130 in this link):
http://www.insightful.com/infact/911/corpus/report_470_460.html
Actually, it was you who got this going, SlackerSlayer! You were
questioning the claim from the skeptics that it took 18 seconds for
WTC7 to come down in, and I knew they were referring (deceptively I
might add) to the Lamont-Doherty data because I had seen it last week.
When I went back to that data is when I found this huge discrepancy
that leads directly to government coverup.
Thanks for your efforts, my friend.
FYI, I am forwarding this to the Scholars immediately because they have
the best group going right now, and we are all in this together whether
we like it or not.
Craig T. Furlong
Huntington Beach, California
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