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User: "grinder"
Date: 10 Sep 2007 06:16:56 PM
Object: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!!
Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the Iraqi
people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm
The survey by the BBC, ABC News and NHK of more than 2,000 people across
Iraq:
60% see attacks on US-led forces as justified. This rises to 93% among
Sunni Muslims compared to 50% for Shia.
Between 67% and 70% believe the surge has hampered conditions for political
dialogue.
Only 29% think things will get better in the next year, compared to 64% two
years ago.
Almost 50% want the U.S. to leave now.
10% want U.S. to stay until Iraqi gov. is stronger.
70% say security is worse in areas where surge forces sent.
.

User: "Wayne H. Wilhelm"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 11 Sep 2007 01:29:19 AM
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the Iraqi
people want.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York Times is
worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.


The survey by the BBC, ABC News and NHK of more than 2,000 people across
Iraq:

60% see attacks on US-led forces as justified. This rises to 93% among
Sunni Muslims compared to 50% for Shia.

Between 67% and 70% believe the surge has hampered conditions for
political dialogue.

Only 29% think things will get better in the next year, compared to 64%
two years ago.

Almost 50% want the U.S. to leave now.

10% want U.S. to stay until Iraqi gov. is stronger.

70% say security is worse in areas where surge forces sent.









.
User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar none@none"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 11 Sep 2007 10:18:04 AM
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the Iraqi
people want.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm


From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York Times
is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the truth in
numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not even owned by a
business corporation like your so-called news 'infotainment'
propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to grind whatsoever.
They are funded entirely by the British Government via a license fee charged
to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they can be trusted to be balanced and
that's why they get attacked by business corporations and their gullible
stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.
But of course - what would they know - they only live there. You on the
other , sitting on your fat wobbling arse somewhere in Hicksville watching
'Fox News for dummies' would know far better I'm sure. You sick ignorant
hate-fucks utterly disgust every thinking person on the planet.
But hey - some good news for you - the last US soldier will leave Iraq the
day after the last barrell of oil leaves Iraq. Seeing as you clearly don't
give a ***** about how many of your soldiers die to make a few rich American
fucks even richer you will no doubt be delighted at this news.

The survey by the BBC, ABC News and NHK of more than 2,000 people across
Iraq:

.
User: "Patriot Games"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 11 Sep 2007 04:54:04 PM
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the Iraqi
people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York Times
is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the truth
in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not even owned
by a business corporation like your so-called news 'infotainment'
propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to grind whatsoever.
They are funded entirely by the British Government via a license fee
charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they can be trusted to be
balanced and that's why they get attacked by business corporations and
their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.

Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.

But of course - what would they know - they only live there. You on the
other , sitting on your fat wobbling arse somewhere in Hicksville watching
'Fox News for dummies' would know far better I'm sure. You sick ignorant
hate-fucks utterly disgust every thinking person on the planet.
But hey - some good news for you - the last US soldier will leave Iraq the
day after the last barrell of oil leaves Iraq.

Sounds good.
.
User: "Titix"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 11 Sep 2007 05:25:23 PM
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the

Iraqi

people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York

Times

is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the

truth

in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not even

owned

by a business corporation like your so-called news 'infotainment'
propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to grind whatsoever.
They are funded entirely by the British Government via a license fee
charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they can be trusted to be
balanced and that's why they get attacked by business corporations and
their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.


Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.

But of course - what would they know - they only live there. You on the
other , sitting on your fat wobbling arse somewhere in Hicksville

watching

'Fox News for dummies' would know far better I'm sure. You sick ignorant
hate-fucks utterly disgust every thinking person on the planet.
But hey - some good news for you - the last US soldier will leave Iraq

the

day after the last barrell of oil leaves Iraq.


Sounds good.

It may sound good to you, but not to the rest of us true patriots. We don't
want our young people's blood for oil. That's the kind of crap we hear from
$$$ hungry republiturds. And you call yourself Patriot?
.
User: "Wayne H. Wilhelm"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 12 Sep 2007 09:43:18 AM
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the

Iraqi

people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York

Times

is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in
the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the

truth

in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not even

owned

by a business corporation like your so-called news 'infotainment'
propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to grind
whatsoever.
They are funded entirely by the British Government via a license fee
charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they can be trusted to be
balanced and that's why they get attacked by business corporations and
their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.


Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.

But of course - what would they know - they only live there. You on the
other , sitting on your fat wobbling arse somewhere in Hicksville

watching

'Fox News for dummies' would know far better I'm sure. You sick
ignorant
hate-fucks utterly disgust every thinking person on the planet.
But hey - some good news for you - the last US soldier will leave Iraq

the

day after the last barrell of oil leaves Iraq.


Sounds good.

It may sound good to you, but not to the rest of us true patriots. We
don't
want our young people's blood for oil. That's the kind of crap we hear
from
$$$ hungry republiturds. And you call yourself Patriot?

Every war is about resources of which there are many types, physical and
sociological or a combination of both. To claim the war is based solely
upon one of those resources (in your case, oil) is to ignore the real
issues. In so doing you ply upon the general ignorance of the masses, those
too stupid to comrehend the realities of todays global conflict.
Note this from http://www.911truth.org , with the release of the General
Petreaus' report,
"But if we care about winning, we have to be able to decide to have hope
even when outer circumstances aren't so positive."
I suppose whether we apply this philosophy depends on if we want to win or
if we want to lose.
.
User: "grinder"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 12 Sep 2007 11:24:33 AM
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the

Iraqi

people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York

Times

is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in
the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the

truth

in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not even

owned

by a business corporation like your so-called news 'infotainment'
propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to grind
whatsoever.
They are funded entirely by the British Government via a license fee
charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they can be trusted to
be
balanced and that's why they get attacked by business corporations and
their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.


Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.

But of course - what would they know - they only live there. You on
the
other , sitting on your fat wobbling arse somewhere in Hicksville

watching

'Fox News for dummies' would know far better I'm sure. You sick
ignorant
hate-fucks utterly disgust every thinking person on the planet.
But hey - some good news for you - the last US soldier will leave Iraq

the

day after the last barrell of oil leaves Iraq.


Sounds good.

It may sound good to you, but not to the rest of us true patriots. We
don't
want our young people's blood for oil. That's the kind of crap we hear
from
$$$ hungry republiturds. And you call yourself Patriot?


Every war is about resources of which there are many types, physical and
sociological or a combination of both. To claim the war is based solely
upon one of those resources (in your case, oil) is to ignore the real
issues. In so doing you ply upon the general ignorance of the masses,
those too stupid to comrehend the realities of todays global conflict.

We are fighting to free a people who believe attacks against us are
justified (60% see attacks on US-led forces as justified. This rises to 93%
among
Sunni Muslims compared to 50% for Shia.)
The real stupidity resides with those who feel this is a foreign policy that
makes sense.

Note this from http://www.911truth.org , with the release of the General
Petreaus' report,

"But if we care about winning, we have to be able to decide to have hope
even when outer circumstances aren't so positive."

I suppose whether we apply this philosophy depends on if we want to win or
if we want to lose.

LOL. "If we care about winning we have to hope even when it looks like we
are losing."
And winning what? Forget about the war-for-oil issue. Patreaus said he
doesn't know if the Iraqi war is making us safer.
.


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Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 12 Sep 2007 09:40:34 AM
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the

Iraqi

people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York

Times

is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in
the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the

truth

in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not even

owned

by a business corporation like your so-called news 'infotainment'
propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to grind
whatsoever.
They are funded entirely by the British Government via a license fee
charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they can be trusted to be
balanced and that's why they get attacked by business corporations and
their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.

Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.

But of course - what would they know - they only live there. You on the
other , sitting on your fat wobbling arse somewhere in Hicksville

watching

'Fox News for dummies' would know far better I'm sure. You sick
ignorant
hate-fucks utterly disgust every thinking person on the planet.
But hey - some good news for you - the last US soldier will leave Iraq

the

day after the last barrell of oil leaves Iraq.

Sounds good.

It may sound good to you, but not to the rest of us true patriots. We
don't
want our young people's blood for oil. That's the kind of crap we hear
from
$$$ hungry republiturds. And you call yourself Patriot?

Could you be a bigger fool?
I don't think so....
.


User: "grinder"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 12 Sep 2007 11:27:06 AM
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the
Iraqi people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York Times
is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the truth
in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not even owned
by a business corporation like your so-called news 'infotainment'
propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to grind whatsoever.
They are funded entirely by the British Government via a license fee
charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they can be trusted to be
balanced and that's why they get attacked by business corporations and
their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.


Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.

Gee. Those who can only remain in power if the U.S. remains in Iraq don't
want the U.S. to leave. BTW, the Parliment has been boycotted by the Sunnis
for months.

But of course - what would they know - they only live there. You on the
other , sitting on your fat wobbling arse somewhere in Hicksville
watching 'Fox News for dummies' would know far better I'm sure. You sick
ignorant hate-fucks utterly disgust every thinking person on the planet.
But hey - some good news for you - the last US soldier will leave Iraq
the day after the last barrell of oil leaves Iraq.


Sounds good.

Tough talk. You remind me of the little boy who makes threats at other
children while peaking around his mother's skirts.
.
User: "Patriot Games"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 12 Sep 2007 05:20:10 PM
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the
Iraqi people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York
Times is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the
truth in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not
even owned by a business corporation like your so-called news
'infotainment' propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to
grind whatsoever. They are funded entirely by the British Government via
a license fee charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they can be
trusted to be balanced and that's why they get attacked by business
corporations and their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.

Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.

Gee. Those who can only remain in power if the U.S. remains in Iraq don't
want the U.S. to leave. BTW, the Parliment has been boycotted by the
Sunnis for months.

Who cares? If the Parliment wants us to leave they'll vote it.
Otherwise you have a bogus idiot-in-the-street Poll that means nothing.

But of course - what would they know - they only live there. You on the
other , sitting on your fat wobbling arse somewhere in Hicksville
watching 'Fox News for dummies' would know far better I'm sure. You sick
ignorant hate-fucks utterly disgust every thinking person on the planet.
But hey - some good news for you - the last US soldier will leave Iraq
the day after the last barrell of oil leaves Iraq.

Sounds good.

Tough talk. You remind me of the little boy who makes threats at other
children while peaking around his mother's skirts.

Hahahahahahhahaha!!!!
.


User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar none@none"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 12 Sep 2007 07:12:07 PM
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the
Iraqi people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York Times
is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the truth
in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not even owned
by a business corporation like your so-called news 'infotainment'
propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to grind whatsoever.
They are funded entirely by the British Government via a license fee
charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they can be trusted to be
balanced and that's why they get attacked by business corporations and
their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.


Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.

'Their' Prime Minister doesn't know that:
"...BAGHDAD (AP) — Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki shrugged off U.S. doubts
of his government's military and political progress on Saturday, saying
Iraqi forces are capable and American troops can leave "any time they want."
One of his top aides, meanwhile, accused the United States of embarrassing
the Iraqi government by violating human rights and treating his country like
an "experiment in a U.S. lab...."
But al-Maliki is another fool who is in total denial - 'their' parliament
(that's a laugh) will be lynched in the street the day their puppet masters
leave.
They don't control Iraq - they control about a square mile on the inside of
a fortress in Baghdad.
.
User: "grinder"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 13 Sep 2007 09:58:17 AM
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the
Iraqi people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York
Times is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the
truth in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not
even owned by a business corporation like your so-called news
'infotainment' propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to
grind whatsoever. They are funded entirely by the British Government via
a license fee charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they can be
trusted to be balanced and that's why they get attacked by business
corporations and their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.


Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.


'Their' Prime Minister doesn't know that:

"...BAGHDAD (AP) - Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki shrugged off U.S. doubts
of his government's military and political progress on Saturday, saying
Iraqi forces are capable and American troops can leave "any time they
want."
One of his top aides, meanwhile, accused the United States of embarrassing
the Iraqi government by violating human rights and treating his country
like an "experiment in a U.S. lab...."

But al-Maliki is another fool who is in total denial - 'their' parliament
(that's a laugh) will be lynched in the street the day their puppet
masters leave.
They don't control Iraq - they control about a square mile on the inside
of a fortress in Baghdad.




Forget trying to explain reality. She not only drinks the kool-aid but
showers in it.
.

User: "Patriot Games"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 13 Sep 2007 10:46:35 AM
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the
Iraqi people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York
Times is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the
truth in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not
even owned by a business corporation like your so-called news
'infotainment' propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to
grind whatsoever. They are funded entirely by the British Government via
a license fee charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they can be
trusted to be balanced and that's why they get attacked by business
corporations and their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.

Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.

'Their' Prime Minister doesn't know that:
"...BAGHDAD (AP) — Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki shrugged off U.S. doubts
of his government's military and political progress on Saturday, saying
Iraqi forces are capable and American troops can leave "any time they
want."
One of his top aides, meanwhile, accused the United States of embarrassing
the Iraqi government by violating human rights and treating his country
like an "experiment in a U.S. lab...."
But al-Maliki is another fool who is in total denial - 'their' parliament
(that's a laugh) will be lynched in the street the day their puppet
masters leave.
They don't control Iraq - they control about a square mile on the inside
of a fortress in Baghdad.

Your whining and crying like a baby with an *****-rash means absolutely
nothing.
Its one excuse after another with you cowards.
You FAILED to date your quote: Saturday, July 14, 2007
You FAILED to CITE your quote:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289315,00.html
One WONDERS WHY you would FAIL to DATE and CITE your quote?
Is it because YOU ARE A LIAR?
Yes, it is.
September 10, 2007: "We still need more efforts and time in order for our
armed forces to be able to take over security in all Iraqi provinces from
the multinational forces that helped us in a great way in fighting
terrorism." Al-Maliki
----------------------------------------------------
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/iraq/2007/09/10/31287.html
Al-Maliki: Iraqi Forces Need More Time
Monday, September 10, 2007
BAGHDAD -- Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told lawmakers Monday that Iraqi
forces were not ready to take over security from the U.S. military across
the country.
"We still need more efforts and time in order for our armed forces to be
able to take over security in all Iraqi provinces from the multinational
forces that helped us in a great way in fighting terrorism," he told
parliament.
Al-Maliki made the comment hours before the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Ryan
Crocker, and top U.S. commander Gen. David Petraeus were to appear before
Congress to deliver reports on Iraq's progress amid a debate over calls to
start bringing American troops home.
The two Americans were widely expected to maintain that this year's troop
buildup has reduced violent attacks in Baghdad and argue for more time to
restore security.
Al-Maliki said that violence had dropped 75 percent in the Baghdad area
since the U.S. began pouring in additional troops at the start of the year.
He gave no figures.
"The key to reconstruction, economic development and improving peoples'
standard of living is security," he said.
Still, attacks in the capital have picked up in recent days in the run-up to
the report and as the Muslim holy month of Ramadan nears, a time when
violence usually spikes higher.
On Monday, U.S. and Iraqi troops backed by helicopters killed three
civilians in the Shiite slum of Sadr City in a pre-dawn raid on the home of
a suspected militia leader, police and residents said.
Ground forces searched four houses but failed to find the suspect, U.S.
spokesman Lt. Col. Scott Bleichwehl said. He identified the suspect only as
a "a criminal militia special group commander," a term associated with
splinter factions of anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army.
Meanwhile, a bomb blew up around noon near the Shiite Buratha mosque in
northern Baghdad, killing two civilians and wounding six others, police
said.
The U.S. command also announced that a U.S. soldier, whose patrol in the
Kirkuk area was hit with rockets on Sunday, had died from injuries sustained
in the attack.
Amid the violence, al-Maliki was called before parliament to give his own
assessment of the security situation in Iraq. Despite intense U.S. pressure
to move ahead with 18 benchmark laws -- including one that will allow for
the reintegration of members of Saddam Hussein's Baath party into political
life and another on oil revenue sharing -- none have yet been taken up by
parliament for discussion.
The so-called de-Baathification draft law was finally presented by
al-Maliki's Cabinet to parliament on Monday, and the legislature scheduled
discussion to begin on it next week, said Wissam al-Zubaidi, an adviser to
deputy parliament speaker Khaled al-Attiyah.
Though his government has been widely criticized for failing to bridge
sectarian divides, al-Maliki insisted that progress had been made.
"We have achieved success in preventing Iraq from going into sectarian war
and I am fully confident that national reconciliation is our only way that
takes Iraq into safety," al-Maliki said.
In the U.S. raid on Sadr City, troops came under fire while moving into the
search area and as they departed and fired back, Bleichwehl said.
Al-Sadr late last month declared a "freeze" on his Mahdi Army's activities
so that the militia could regroup, but the U.S. has said breakaway factions
over which al-Sadr has no control have continued to fight.
"Coalition forces returned proportional and precise fire on the enemy while
being engaged..." Bleichwehl said in an e-mailed response to questions. "The
unit sustained no casualties and there are no reports of civilian
casualties."
But residents showed Associated Press Television News the coffins of the
people they said were killed in the raid -- a woman and her two daughters.
Residents lifted the blanket from inside one of the simple wood coffins to
show the bodies of two little girls lying next to each other.
A police officer, speaking on condition of anonymity for security reasons,
confirmed the woman and two girls were killed in the firefight.
"Neither the government protects us nor does Bush defend us," lamented
resident Abu Ali. "What shall we do?"
In the Sunni city of Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad, U.S. and Iraqi
troops got into a fierce firefight with suspected al-Qaida in Iraq fighters
in a morning assault. Twelve of the insurgents were killed and three U.S.
soldiers were wounded, the military said in a statement.
U.S. and Iraqi forces came under heavy from insurgents inside buildings
while clearing the area, the military said.
The ground forces returned fire, while AH-64 Apache helicopters provided
support from the air.
Three al-Qaida suspects also were detained, while a fourth person at the
scene was identified as a hostage being held for ransom.
The injured soldiers were taken to Balad Air Base for treatment and were all
in stable condition, the U.S. military said.
.
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Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 15 Sep 2007 02:04:11 AM
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the
Iraqi people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York
Times is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in
the world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the
truth in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not
even owned by a business corporation like your so-called news
'infotainment' propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to
grind whatsoever. They are funded entirely by the British Government
via a license fee charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they
can be trusted to be balanced and that's why they get attacked by
business corporations and their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.

Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.

'Their' Prime Minister doesn't know that:
"...BAGHDAD (AP) — Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki shrugged off U.S.
doubts of his government's military and political progress on Saturday,
saying Iraqi forces are capable and American troops can leave "any time
they want."
One of his top aides, meanwhile, accused the United States of
embarrassing the Iraqi government by violating human rights and treating
his country like an "experiment in a U.S. lab...."
But al-Maliki is another fool who is in total denial - 'their' parliament
(that's a laugh) will be lynched in the street the day their puppet
masters leave.
They don't control Iraq - they control about a square mile on the inside
of a fortress in Baghdad.


Your whining and crying like a baby with an *****-rash means absolutely
nothing.

It's not *me* that's whining dumbo - I'm just quoting Maliki - if you don't
like what he says I suggest you take it up with him.

BAGHDAD -- Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told lawmakers Monday that Iraqi
forces were not ready to take over security from the U.S. military across
the country.

"We still need more efforts and time in order for our armed forces to be
able to take over security in all Iraqi provinces from the multinational
forces that helped us in a great way in fighting terrorism," he told
parliament.

So Maliki's had his knuckles rapped and been handed a new script to read out
by his puppet-masters.
He must have realy ***** his US bosses earlier on.
.
User: "Patriot Games"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 16 Sep 2007 08:40:11 AM
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the
Iraqi people want.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York
Times is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.

Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in
the world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to
the truth in numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are
not even owned by a business corporation like your so-called news
'infotainment' propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to
grind whatsoever. They are funded entirely by the British Government
via a license fee charged to everyone who owns a TV. That's why they
can be trusted to be balanced and that's why they get attacked by
business corporations and their gullible stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.

Apparently their Parliment doesn't agree with them.

'Their' Prime Minister doesn't know that:
"...BAGHDAD (AP) — Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki shrugged off U.S.
doubts of his government's military and political progress on Saturday,
saying Iraqi forces are capable and American troops can leave "any time
they want."
One of his top aides, meanwhile, accused the United States of
embarrassing the Iraqi government by violating human rights and treating
his country like an "experiment in a U.S. lab...."
But al-Maliki is another fool who is in total denial - 'their'
parliament (that's a laugh) will be lynched in the street the day their
puppet masters leave.
They don't control Iraq - they control about a square mile on the inside
of a fortress in Baghdad.

Your whining and crying like a baby with an *****-rash means absolutely
nothing.

It's not *me* that's whining dumbo - I'm just quoting Maliki - if you
don't like what he says I suggest you take it up with him.

Why would I take it up with him? You're are who provided a BOGUS QUOTE.

BAGHDAD -- Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told lawmakers Monday that
Iraqi forces were not ready to take over security from the U.S. military
across the country.
"We still need more efforts and time in order for our armed forces to be
able to take over security in all Iraqi provinces from the multinational
forces that helped us in a great way in fighting terrorism," he told
parliament.

So Maliki's had his knuckles rapped

You FAILED to PROVE that....

and been handed a new script to read out by his puppet-masters.

You FAILED to PROVE that....

He must have realy ***** his US bosses earlier on.

You FAILED to PROVE that....
So, we have three UNPROVEN allegations from YOU and one instance of being
caught in public using a BOGUS OUTDATED quote.
Yes, that IS you whining and crying like a baby with an *****-rash.
Go home and get your shinebox, boy.
.
User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar none@none"

Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 16 Sep 2007 10:27:53 AM
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It's not *me* that's whining dumbo - I'm just quoting Maliki - if you
don't like what he says I suggest you take it up with him.


Why would I take it up with him? You're are who provided a BOGUS QUOTE.

No I didn't - I posted exactly what Maliki said that they can leave "any
time they want".

BAGHDAD -- Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told lawmakers Monday that
Iraqi forces were not ready to take over security from the U.S. military
across the country.
"We still need more efforts and time in order for our armed forces to be
able to take over security in all Iraqi provinces from the multinational
forces that helped us in a great way in fighting terrorism," he told
parliament.

So Maliki's had his knuckles rapped


You FAILED to PROVE that....

and been handed a new script to read out by his puppet-masters.


You FAILED to PROVE that....

He must have realy ***** his US bosses earlier on.


You FAILED to PROVE that....

So, we have three UNPROVEN allegations from YOU and one instance of being
caught in public using a BOGUS OUTDATED quote.

No - it is stating what is perfectly obvious to any five year old.
Asking for a 'cite' every time someone posts the obvious is not debate - get
a clue as to how the real world works you silly little boy.
.






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Title: Re: New Iraqi poll : Yankee go home!!! 16 Sep 2007 10:46:24 AM
On Sep 11, 11:18 am, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <none@none> wrote:

"Wayne H. Wilhelm" <wa...@hiddenpolitics.com> wrote in messagenews:46e635c6$0$6441$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

"grinder" <sea...@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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Looks like the general's information doesn't reflect with what the Iraqi
people want.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm


From the BBC? They're worse than NewsMax. I suspect the New York Times
is worse than the BBC, though it's too close to be certain.


Dont be a fool all your life - the BBC is the biggest broadcaster in the
world by audience numbers and has often been the *only* link to the truth in
numerous conflicts since the second world war. They are not even owned by a
business corporation like your so-called news 'infotainment'
propaganda-for-idiots travesties and so have no axe to grind whatsoever.
They are funded entirely by the British Government via a license fee charged
to everyone who owns a TV.

We, never said idiots at BBC couldn't make TVs for idiots.
But over here many of us make combined Digitial raster displays,
and computer terminals on flat screen laser monitors,
rather than BBC morons.
That's why they can be trusted to be balanced and

that's why they get attacked by business corporations and their gullible
stooges all over the US.
Grow up moron.
And in any case it wasn't 'the BBC' it was *2,000 Iraqi people* you
*****.
But of course - what would they know - they only live there. You on the
other , sitting on your fat wobbling arse somewhere in Hicksville watching
'Fox News for dummies' would know far better I'm sure. You sick ignorant
hate-fucks utterly disgust every thinking person on the planet.

But hey - some good news for you - the last US soldier will leave Iraq the
day after the last barrell of oil leaves Iraq. Seeing as you clearly don't
give a ***** about how many of your soldiers die to make a few rich American
fucks even richer you will no doubt be delighted at this news.



The survey by the BBC, ABC News and NHK of more than 2,000 people across
Iraq:- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -

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