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User: "Harry Hope"
Date: 08 Jun 2005 11:28:15 AM
Object: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie.
From The Toledo Blade, 6/8/05:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050608/NEWS24/50608003
RARE-COIN CASE
Workers' comp bureau concealed $215M loss;
Taft, Petro knew about fund's woes many months ago
By MIKE WILKINSON and JAMES DREW
BLADE STAFF WRITERS
COLUMBUS --
Democrats were screaming "cover-up" yesterday after state officials
admitted that a high-risk hedge fund that the embattled Ohio Bureau of
Workers’ Compensation had invested in had lost $215 million in just a
few months last year.
The bureau acknowledged that the fund, managed by a Pittsburgh-based
investment firm, lost the money between February and September, 2004.
MDL Capital Management relinquished control of the fund in November.
Although the bureau has known about the losses since September, it
wasn’t revealed until yesterday, a day after The Blade began making
calls upon learning that state investigators had uncovered huge losses
at the bureau.
A spokeman for Gov. Bob Taft said last night that Mr. Taft had been
told in September that there was an investment loss at the bureau -- a
loss of $10 million to $20 million.
Bureau records show that Attorney General Jim Petro’s office also was
informed of the investment loss in September.
Spokesmen said Mr. Taft and Mr. Petro did not learn the full extent of
the loss until yesterday.
State Rep. Chris Redfern (D., Catawba Island) was among legislators
who were shocked by the news.
"It begs the question, ‘Where was the oversight?’ It looks to me that
the Bureau of Workers’ Compensation needs to hire an independent
forensic auditor within the department itself. There seems to be no
one in charge.
"Somebody tried to cover this up,’’ said Mr. Redfern.
"The bureau, by its own admission, fired its chief financial officer
and never told us why.’’
For the first time in weeks, the talk out of the bureau wasn’t about
rare coins and Tom Noe.
Instead it focused on hedge funds and MDL, a Pittsburgh firm with
clients across the country.
The investments with MDL are unrelated to the bureau’s coin funds
managed by Mr. Noe, a prominent Toledo-area coin dealer.
But the news of the MDL losses were revealed just a day after the Ohio
Ethics Commission reported expanding its probe into whether bureau
employees complied with state ethics laws.
Earlier yesterday, before news of the MDL losses were reported,
Inspector General Tom Charles confirmed that his office was
investigating other bureau investments.
Jeremy Jackson, spokesman for the bureau, would not comment on whether
the Noe investigation uncovered the MDL losses.
"There are investigations going on, including the [Ohio] inspector
general," Mr. Jackson told The Blade, which first uncovered the
bureau’s rare-coin investment on April 3.
Actions questioned
Tina Kielmeyer, the bureau’s interim administrator, said the bureau
believes MDL’s fund managers "acted outside the scope of the contract"
and the bureau could take civil or criminal action against the
"appropriate parties."
Ms. Kielmeyer disclosed yesterday that Terry Gasper, the bureau’s
former chief financial officer, was forced to resign last year because
of the losses.
Earlier this year, however, bureau officials told The Blade that Mr.
Gasper left for health reasons.
James Conrad, forced by the unfolding Noe rare-coin scandal to resign
as the bureau’s administrator, told Ms. Kielmeyer in his last meeting
with her that the investment loss would require her "immediate
attention."
She said she and a management review team appointed by Mr. Taft Friday
are looking for other questionable investments.
"We are scouring all of the investment records to ensure that all of
the proper protocols were followed,’’ she said.
Mark D. Lay, the chairman and chief executive of MDL, defended the
fund and the losses.
He said the "active duration fund" was a hedge fund that gambled that
long-term interest rates would rise.
If they had, the hedge fund would have made money, offsetting expected
losses by the bureau’s overall bond funds.
When long-term rates instead fell, the value of the hedge fund
plummeted.
Mr. Lay said that means the other funds gained in value; however, the
bureau could not confirm that last night.
"We’ve done nothing outside the scope of the contract," Mr. Lay said.
"It was a simple overlay strategy done through a hedge-fund vehicle."
Ms. Kielmeyer, in a memo to Governor Taft yesterday about the loss,
offered a chronology that both answers and raises questions about the
deal.
Mr. Conrad wasn’t told about the losses until they had already
occurred, although Jim McLean, the bureau’s chief investment officer,
was aware of them.
___________________________________________________
The mud gets thicker every day in this new Republican scandal.
Harry
.

User: "George Harrison"

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 08 Jun 2005 02:49:54 PM
Republican scum.
Harry Hope wrote:

From The Toledo Blade, 6/8/05:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050608/NEWS24/50608003

RARE-COIN CASE

Workers' comp bureau concealed $215M loss;

Taft, Petro knew about fund's woes many months ago

By MIKE WILKINSON and JAMES DREW
BLADE STAFF WRITERS


COLUMBUS --

Democrats were screaming "cover-up" yesterday after state officials
admitted that a high-risk hedge fund that the embattled Ohio Bureau of
Workers’ Compensation had invested in had lost $215 million in just a
few months last year.

The bureau acknowledged that the fund, managed by a Pittsburgh-based
investment firm, lost the money between February and September, 2004.

MDL Capital Management relinquished control of the fund in November.

Although the bureau has known about the losses since September, it
wasn’t revealed until yesterday, a day after The Blade began making
calls upon learning that state investigators had uncovered huge losses
at the bureau.

A spokeman for Gov. Bob Taft said last night that Mr. Taft had been
told in September that there was an investment loss at the bureau -- a
loss of $10 million to $20 million.

Bureau records show that Attorney General Jim Petro’s office also was
informed of the investment loss in September.

Spokesmen said Mr. Taft and Mr. Petro did not learn the full extent of
the loss until yesterday.

State Rep. Chris Redfern (D., Catawba Island) was among legislators
who were shocked by the news.

"It begs the question, ‘Where was the oversight?’ It looks to me that
the Bureau of Workers’ Compensation needs to hire an independent
forensic auditor within the department itself. There seems to be no
one in charge.

"Somebody tried to cover this up,’’ said Mr. Redfern.

"The bureau, by its own admission, fired its chief financial officer
and never told us why.’’

For the first time in weeks, the talk out of the bureau wasn’t about
rare coins and Tom Noe.

Instead it focused on hedge funds and MDL, a Pittsburgh firm with
clients across the country.

The investments with MDL are unrelated to the bureau’s coin funds
managed by Mr. Noe, a prominent Toledo-area coin dealer.

But the news of the MDL losses were revealed just a day after the Ohio
Ethics Commission reported expanding its probe into whether bureau
employees complied with state ethics laws.

Earlier yesterday, before news of the MDL losses were reported,
Inspector General Tom Charles confirmed that his office was
investigating other bureau investments.

Jeremy Jackson, spokesman for the bureau, would not comment on whether
the Noe investigation uncovered the MDL losses.

"There are investigations going on, including the [Ohio] inspector
general," Mr. Jackson told The Blade, which first uncovered the
bureau’s rare-coin investment on April 3.

Actions questioned

Tina Kielmeyer, the bureau’s interim administrator, said the bureau
believes MDL’s fund managers "acted outside the scope of the contract"
and the bureau could take civil or criminal action against the
"appropriate parties."

Ms. Kielmeyer disclosed yesterday that Terry Gasper, the bureau’s
former chief financial officer, was forced to resign last year because
of the losses.

Earlier this year, however, bureau officials told The Blade that Mr.
Gasper left for health reasons.

James Conrad, forced by the unfolding Noe rare-coin scandal to resign
as the bureau’s administrator, told Ms. Kielmeyer in his last meeting
with her that the investment loss would require her "immediate
attention."

She said she and a management review team appointed by Mr. Taft Friday
are looking for other questionable investments.

"We are scouring all of the investment records to ensure that all of
the proper protocols were followed,’’ she said.

Mark D. Lay, the chairman and chief executive of MDL, defended the
fund and the losses.

He said the "active duration fund" was a hedge fund that gambled that
long-term interest rates would rise.

If they had, the hedge fund would have made money, offsetting expected
losses by the bureau’s overall bond funds.

When long-term rates instead fell, the value of the hedge fund
plummeted.

Mr. Lay said that means the other funds gained in value; however, the
bureau could not confirm that last night.

"We’ve done nothing outside the scope of the contract," Mr. Lay said.

"It was a simple overlay strategy done through a hedge-fund vehicle."

Ms. Kielmeyer, in a memo to Governor Taft yesterday about the loss,
offered a chronology that both answers and raises questions about the
deal.

Mr. Conrad wasn’t told about the losses until they had already
occurred, although Jim McLean, the bureau’s chief investment officer,
was aware of them.

___________________________________________________

The mud gets thicker every day in this new Republican scandal.

Harry

.
User: "Miles Long"

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 08 Jun 2005 05:03:28 PM
George Harrison wrote:

Republican scum.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Unfortunately, lately the above is redundant. <chuckle>
Miles "Inflammable" Long


Harry Hope wrote:

From The Toledo Blade, 6/8/05:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050608/NEWS24/50608003


RARE-COIN CASE

Workers' comp bureau concealed $215M loss;
Taft, Petro knew about fund's woes many months ago

By MIKE WILKINSON and JAMES DREW
BLADE STAFF WRITERS


COLUMBUS --
Democrats were screaming "cover-up" yesterday after state officials
admitted that a high-risk hedge fund that the embattled Ohio Bureau of
Workers’ Compensation had invested in had lost $215 million in just a
few months last year.

The bureau acknowledged that the fund, managed by a Pittsburgh-based
investment firm, lost the money between February and September, 2004.
MDL Capital Management relinquished control of the fund in November.

Although the bureau has known about the losses since September, it
wasn’t revealed until yesterday, a day after The Blade began making
calls upon learning that state investigators had uncovered huge losses
at the bureau.

A spokeman for Gov. Bob Taft said last night that Mr. Taft had been
told in September that there was an investment loss at the bureau -- a
loss of $10 million to $20 million.

Bureau records show that Attorney General Jim Petro’s office also was
informed of the investment loss in September.
Spokesmen said Mr. Taft and Mr. Petro did not learn the full extent of
the loss until yesterday.

State Rep. Chris Redfern (D., Catawba Island) was among legislators
who were shocked by the news.

"It begs the question, ‘Where was the oversight?’ It looks to me that
the Bureau of Workers’ Compensation needs to hire an independent
forensic auditor within the department itself. There seems to be no
one in charge.

"Somebody tried to cover this up,’’ said Mr. Redfern.
"The bureau, by its own admission, fired its chief financial officer
and never told us why.’’

For the first time in weeks, the talk out of the bureau wasn’t about
rare coins and Tom Noe.
Instead it focused on hedge funds and MDL, a Pittsburgh firm with
clients across the country.

The investments with MDL are unrelated to the bureau’s coin funds
managed by Mr. Noe, a prominent Toledo-area coin dealer.
But the news of the MDL losses were revealed just a day after the Ohio
Ethics Commission reported expanding its probe into whether bureau
employees complied with state ethics laws.
Earlier yesterday, before news of the MDL losses were reported,
Inspector General Tom Charles confirmed that his office was
investigating other bureau investments.

Jeremy Jackson, spokesman for the bureau, would not comment on whether
the Noe investigation uncovered the MDL losses.

"There are investigations going on, including the [Ohio] inspector
general," Mr. Jackson told The Blade, which first uncovered the
bureau’s rare-coin investment on April 3.

Actions questioned

Tina Kielmeyer, the bureau’s interim administrator, said the bureau
believes MDL’s fund managers "acted outside the scope of the contract"
and the bureau could take civil or criminal action against the
"appropriate parties."

Ms. Kielmeyer disclosed yesterday that Terry Gasper, the bureau’s
former chief financial officer, was forced to resign last year because
of the losses.
Earlier this year, however, bureau officials told The Blade that Mr.
Gasper left for health reasons.

James Conrad, forced by the unfolding Noe rare-coin scandal to resign
as the bureau’s administrator, told Ms. Kielmeyer in his last meeting
with her that the investment loss would require her "immediate
attention."

She said she and a management review team appointed by Mr. Taft Friday
are looking for other questionable investments.

"We are scouring all of the investment records to ensure that all of
the proper protocols were followed,’’ she said.

Mark D. Lay, the chairman and chief executive of MDL, defended the
fund and the losses.
He said the "active duration fund" was a hedge fund that gambled that
long-term interest rates would rise.
If they had, the hedge fund would have made money, offsetting expected
losses by the bureau’s overall bond funds.

When long-term rates instead fell, the value of the hedge fund
plummeted.
Mr. Lay said that means the other funds gained in value; however, the
bureau could not confirm that last night.

"We’ve done nothing outside the scope of the contract," Mr. Lay said.
"It was a simple overlay strategy done through a hedge-fund vehicle."

Ms. Kielmeyer, in a memo to Governor Taft yesterday about the loss,
offered a chronology that both answers and raises questions about the
deal.

Mr. Conrad wasn’t told about the losses until they had already
occurred, although Jim McLean, the bureau’s chief investment officer,
was aware of them.

___________________________________________________

The mud gets thicker every day in this new Republican scandal.

Harry

.


User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 09 Jun 2005 09:08:02 PM
Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

From The Toledo Blade, 6/8/05:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050608/NEWS24/50608003
RARE-COIN CASE Workers' comp bureau concealed $215M loss;
Taft, Petro knew about fund's woes many months ago
By MIKE WILKINSON and JAMES DREW BLADE STAFF WRITERS COLUMBUS --
Democrats were screaming "cover-up" yesterday after state officials
admitted that a high-risk hedge fund that the embattled Ohio Bureau of
Workers’ Compensation had invested in had lost $215 million in just a
few months last year.

God _DAMNED_ fucking rightard criminals!!! Let's same some time
and round up _all_ Republicrooks and put every last fucking one
of them in jail.
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.notserver.com/
Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
http://PerkinsTragedy.org http://www.rightard.org/
End Republican race hatred: http://www.thedarkwind.org/
.
User: "Dana"

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 09 Jun 2005 09:36:06 PM
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11ahu59t4migkff@corp.supernews.com...

Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

From The Toledo Blade, 6/8/05:


http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050608/NEWS24/50608

003

RARE-COIN CASE Workers' comp bureau concealed $215M loss;
Taft, Petro knew about fund's woes many months ago
By MIKE WILKINSON and JAMES DREW BLADE STAFF WRITERS COLUMBUS --
Democrats were screaming "cover-up" yesterday after state officials
admitted that a high-risk hedge fund that the embattled Ohio Bureau of
Workers' Compensation had invested in had lost $215 million in just a
few months last year.


God _DAMNED_ fucking rightard

YAWN, just another reason why we need to have an open season on leftists.
.
User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 11 Jun 2005 01:31:40 PM
"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote:

"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11ahu59t4migkff@corp.supernews.com...

Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

From The Toledo Blade, 6/8/05:


http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050608/NEWS24/50608

003

RARE-COIN CASE Workers' comp bureau concealed $215M loss;
Taft, Petro knew about fund's woes many months ago
By MIKE WILKINSON and JAMES DREW BLADE STAFF WRITERS COLUMBUS --
Democrats were screaming "cover-up" yesterday after state officials
admitted that a high-risk hedge fund that the embattled Ohio Bureau of
Workers' Compensation had invested in had lost $215 million in just a
few months last year.


God _DAMNED_ fucking rightard

YAWN, just another reason why we need to have an open season on leftists.

I'm not surprised that you support and defend criminals since
you support and defend a baby killing butcher.
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.notserver.com/
Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
http://PerkinsTragedy.org http://www.rightard.org/
End Republican race hatred: http://www.thedarkwind.org/
.

User: "Rich Travsky "

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 12 Jun 2005 09:54:16 PM
Dana wrote:


"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11ahu59t4migkff@corp.supernews.com...

Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

From The Toledo Blade, 6/8/05:


http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050608/NEWS24/50608

003

RARE-COIN CASE Workers' comp bureau concealed $215M loss;
Taft, Petro knew about fund's woes many months ago
By MIKE WILKINSON and JAMES DREW BLADE STAFF WRITERS COLUMBUS --
Democrats were screaming "cover-up" yesterday after state officials
admitted that a high-risk hedge fund that the embattled Ohio Bureau of
Workers' Compensation had invested in had lost $215 million in just a
few months last year.


God _DAMNED_ fucking rightard


YAWN, just another reason why we need to have an open season on leftists.

Hey toilet boy, it was rightards behind this scandal.
RT
.

User: "Tempest"

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 09 Jun 2005 09:59:34 PM
Dana wrote:

"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11ahu59t4migkff@corp.supernews.com...

Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

From The Toledo Blade, 6/8/05:


http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050608/NEWS24/50608


003

RARE-COIN CASE Workers' comp bureau concealed $215M loss;
Taft, Petro knew about fund's woes many months ago
By MIKE WILKINSON and JAMES DREW BLADE STAFF WRITERS COLUMBUS --
Democrats were screaming "cover-up" yesterday after state officials
admitted that a high-risk hedge fund that the embattled Ohio Bureau of
Workers' Compensation had invested in had lost $215 million in just a
few months last year.


God _DAMNED_ fucking rightard



YAWN, just another reason why we need to have an open season on leftists.

Fascist dana's another reason why leftists should care weapons.
--
"Ignorance is an evil weed, which dictators may cultivate among their
dupes, but which no democracy can afford among its citizens."
- William H. Beveridge, 1944
.



User: "SyVyN11"

Title: Harry Hope-less relavation: Definatly a smally. 08 Jun 2005 09:25:03 PM
Harry only has a two inch *****.
He feels bad about it cause he wants to ***** Roedy Green in the *****!
.
User: "Miles Long"

Title: Re: Harry Hope-less relavation: Definatly a smally. 08 Jun 2005 09:29:56 PM
SyVyN11 wrote:

Harry only has a two inch *****.

He feels bad about it cause he wants to ***** Roedy Green in the *****!


Getting to ya, eh? <laughing my ***** off>
Miles "The Truth is Killing 'Em" Long
.

User: "Tempest"

Title: Re: Harry Hope-less relavation: Definatly a smally. 08 Jun 2005 09:38:48 PM
SyVyN11 wrote:

Harry only has a two inch *****.

He feels bad about it cause he wants to ***** Roedy Green in the *****!

What is it about Repugs and their fascination with gay sex?
Oh, that's right...
Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia -- the fear, anxiety, anger,
discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual people hold
for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed homosexual urges that
the person is either unaware of or denies. A study appearing in the
August 1996 issue of the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, published by
the American Psychological Association (APA), provides new empirical
evidence that is consistent with that theory.
Researchers at the University of Georgia conducted an experiment
involving 35 homophobic men and 29 nonhomophobic men as measured by the
Index of Homophobia scale. All the participants selected for the study
described themselves as exclusively heterosexual both in terms of sexual
arousal and experience.
Each participant was exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli
consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual and lesbian videotapes (but
not necessarily in that order). Their degree of sexual arousal was
measured by penile plethysmography, which precisely measures and records
male tumescence.
Men in both groups were aroused by about the same degree by the video
depicting heterosexual sexual behavior and by the video showing two
women engaged in sexual behavior. The only significant difference in
degree of arousal between the two groups occurred when they viewed the
video depicting male homosexual sex: 'The homophobic men showed a
significant increase in penile circumference to the male homosexual
video, but the control [nonhomophobic] men did not.'
http://www.apa.org/releases/homophob.html
--
"Ignorance is an evil weed, which dictators may cultivate among their
dupes, but which no democracy can afford among its citizens."
- William H. Beveridge, 1944
.
User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: Harry Hope-less relavation: Definatly a smally. 08 Jun 2005 10:58:29 PM
"Tempest" <tempest@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42A7AC77.2070707@hotmail.com...

SyVyN11 wrote:


Harry only has a two inch *****.

He feels bad about it cause he wants to ***** Roedy Green in the *****!



What is it about Repugs and their fascination with gay sex?

Perhaps the fact that they see it as the worst insult, abomination, and
career ending revelation.
As opposed to the lib approach that is an acceptable life style.
Jim E
.
User: "Larry Hewitt"

Title: Re: Harry Hope-less relavation: Definatly a smally. 09 Jun 2005 03:41:59 PM
"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
news:3gpt30FdgtbdU1@individual.net...


"Tempest" <tempest@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42A7AC77.2070707@hotmail.com...

SyVyN11 wrote:


Harry only has a two inch *****.

He feels bad about it cause he wants to ***** Roedy Green in the *****!



What is it about Repugs and their fascination with gay sex?


Perhaps the fact that they see it as the worst insult, abomination, and
career ending revelation.
As opposed to the lib approach that is an acceptable life style.



Jim E


Nah, I'll go with the professionals' evaluation --- you are closet gays.
Only closet gays think that this would be "the worst insult, abomination,
and career ending revelation." And your fear of being found out led you to
delete the following:
"Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia -- the fear, anxiety, anger,
discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual people hold
for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed homosexual urges that
the person is either unaware of or denies. A study appearing in the
August 1996 issue of the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, published by
the American Psychological Association (APA), provides new empirical
evidence that is consistent with that theory.
Researchers at the University of Georgia conducted an experiment
involving 35 homophobic men and 29 nonhomophobic men as measured by the
Index of Homophobia scale. All the participants selected for the study
described themselves as exclusively heterosexual both in terms of sexual
arousal and experience.
Each participant was exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli
consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual and lesbian videotapes (but
not necessarily in that order). Their degree of sexual arousal was
measured by penile plethysmography, which precisely measures and records
male tumescence.
Men in both groups were aroused by about the same degree by the video
depicting heterosexual sexual behavior and by the video showing two
women engaged in sexual behavior. The only significant difference in
degree of arousal between the two groups occurred when they viewed the
video depicting male homosexual sex: 'The homophobic men showed a
significant increase in penile circumference to the male homosexual
video, but the control [nonhomophobic] men did not.'
http://www.apa.org/releases/homophob.html"
Larry
.

User: "Lamont Cranston"

Title: Re: Harry Hope-less relavation: Definatly a smally. 09 Jun 2005 01:43:48 PM
Jim E wrote:

"Tempest" <tempest@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42A7AC77.2070707@hotmail.com...

SyVyN11 wrote:



Harry only has a two inch *****.

He feels bad about it cause he wants to ***** Roedy Green in the *****!



What is it about Repugs and their fascination with gay sex?



Perhaps the fact that they see it as the worst insult, abomination, and
career ending revelation.

Thanks for confirming that you are out of touch with reality.

As opposed to the lib approach that is an acceptable life style.



Jim E

Homosexuality is no more a life style than you are an enlightened person.
.




User: "Starshine Moonbeam"

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 08 Jun 2005 09:46:39 PM
In article <g47ea11vtev37ei4gdk3b5eeoe81hd1j26@4ax.com>, Harry Hope
(rivrvu@ix.netcom.com) dropped a +5 bundle of words...


From The Toledo Blade, 6/8/05:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050608/NEWS24/50608003

RARE-COIN CASE

Workers' comp bureau concealed $215M loss;

Taft, Petro knew about fund's woes many months ago

By MIKE WILKINSON and JAMES DREW
BLADE STAFF WRITERS


COLUMBUS --

Democrats were screaming "cover-up" yesterday after state officials
admitted that a high-risk hedge fund that the embattled Ohio Bureau of
Workers’ Compensation had invested in had lost $215 million in just a
few months last year.

The bureau acknowledged that the fund, managed by a Pittsburgh-based
investment firm, lost the money between February and September, 2004.

MDL Capital Management relinquished control of the fund in November.

Although the bureau has known about the losses since September, it
wasn’t revealed until yesterday, a day after The Blade began making
calls upon learning that state investigators had uncovered huge losses
at the bureau.

A spokeman for Gov. Bob Taft said last night that Mr. Taft had been
told in September that there was an investment loss at the bureau -- a
loss of $10 million to $20 million.

Bureau records show that Attorney General Jim Petro’s office also was
informed of the investment loss in September.

Spokesmen said Mr. Taft and Mr. Petro did not learn the full extent of
the loss until yesterday.

State Rep. Chris Redfern (D., Catawba Island) was among legislators
who were shocked by the news.

"It begs the question, ‘Where was the oversight?’ It looks to me that
the Bureau of Workers’ Compensation needs to hire an independent
forensic auditor within the department itself. There seems to be no
one in charge.

"Somebody tried to cover this up,’’ said Mr. Redfern.

"The bureau, by its own admission, fired its chief financial officer
and never told us why.’’

For the first time in weeks, the talk out of the bureau wasn’t about
rare coins and Tom Noe.

Instead it focused on hedge funds and MDL, a Pittsburgh firm with
clients across the country.

The investments with MDL are unrelated to the bureau’s coin funds
managed by Mr. Noe, a prominent Toledo-area coin dealer.

But the news of the MDL losses were revealed just a day after the Ohio
Ethics Commission reported expanding its probe into whether bureau
employees complied with state ethics laws.

Earlier yesterday, before news of the MDL losses were reported,
Inspector General Tom Charles confirmed that his office was
investigating other bureau investments.

Jeremy Jackson, spokesman for the bureau, would not comment on whether
the Noe investigation uncovered the MDL losses.

"There are investigations going on, including the [Ohio] inspector
general," Mr. Jackson told The Blade, which first uncovered the
bureau’s rare-coin investment on April 3.

Actions questioned

Tina Kielmeyer, the bureau’s interim administrator, said the bureau
believes MDL’s fund managers "acted outside the scope of the contract"
and the bureau could take civil or criminal action against the
"appropriate parties."

Ms. Kielmeyer disclosed yesterday that Terry Gasper, the bureau’s
former chief financial officer, was forced to resign last year because
of the losses.

Earlier this year, however, bureau officials told The Blade that Mr.
Gasper left for health reasons.

James Conrad, forced by the unfolding Noe rare-coin scandal to resign
as the bureau’s administrator, told Ms. Kielmeyer in his last meeting
with her that the investment loss would require her "immediate
attention."

She said she and a management review team appointed by Mr. Taft Friday
are looking for other questionable investments.

"We are scouring all of the investment records to ensure that all of
the proper protocols were followed,’’ she said.

Mark D. Lay, the chairman and chief executive of MDL, defended the
fund and the losses.

He said the "active duration fund" was a hedge fund that gambled that
long-term interest rates would rise.

If they had, the hedge fund would have made money, offsetting expected
losses by the bureau’s overall bond funds.

When long-term rates instead fell, the value of the hedge fund
plummeted.

Mr. Lay said that means the other funds gained in value; however, the
bureau could not confirm that last night.

"We’ve done nothing outside the scope of the contract," Mr. Lay said.

"It was a simple overlay strategy done through a hedge-fund vehicle."

Ms. Kielmeyer, in a memo to Governor Taft yesterday about the loss,
offered a chronology that both answers and raises questions about the
deal.

Mr. Conrad wasn’t told about the losses until they had already
occurred, although Jim McLean, the bureau’s chief investment officer,
was aware of them.

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The mud gets thicker every day in this new Republican scandal.

Harry

215 mil. Hooowheeee !!
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Starshine Moonbeam
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
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User: "Ryd"

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 08 Jun 2005 03:18:53 PM
This could be the one that brings Bush down!
Impeach Bush! NOW!
Ryd
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User: "Guy"

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 08 Jun 2005 04:07:03 PM
"Ryd" <ryda56p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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This could be the one that brings Bush down!

Impeach Bush! NOW!

Ryd

I'd be happy if it just loosens the Repugs grip on Ohio.
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User: "XTS"

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 08 Jun 2005 05:32:41 PM
"Guy" <gmarremoveentette@neo.rremovetoor.com> wrote in message
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"Ryd" <ryda56p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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This could be the one that brings Bush down!

Impeach Bush! NOW!

Ryd


I'd be happy if it just loosens the Repugs grip on Ohio.

Me too. I live in Ohio, and it's worse than ever. During the Clinton years,
this state was smokin'. The welfare roles were reduced to marginal numbers,
now they are higher athan ever. If you're in Ohio, there is no need to
mention Delphi, you already know. The govenor, Taft, was voted the worse
govenor in the USA. He has made sales taxesd and fees skyrocket.
No damn jobs.
The repubs have strangled the good old Buckeye state into submission.
.
User: "Brandon K. Montoya"

Title: Re: New Ohio Republican scandal revelation. This could be a biggie. 08 Jun 2005 10:23:40 PM
XTS wrote:


"Guy" <gmarremoveentette@neo.rremovetoor.com> wrote in message
news:X5Jpe.20176$iu.11938@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...


"Ryd" <ryda56p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1118261933.284695.193270@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

This could be the one that brings Bush down!

Impeach Bush! NOW!

Ryd


I'd be happy if it just loosens the Repugs grip on Ohio.


Me too. I live in Ohio, and it's worse than ever. During the Clinton years,
this state was smokin'. The welfare roles were reduced to marginal numbers,
now they are higher athan ever. If you're in Ohio, there is no need to
mention Delphi, you already know. The govenor, Taft, was voted the worse
govenor in the USA. He has made sales taxesd and fees skyrocket.

No damn jobs.

The repubs have strangled the good old Buckeye state into submission.

You can't strangle an American into submission, you can only strangle
them into rebellion.
And they just gave us all we need to rebel.
Whoops 8^D
--
The Neo Conservative movement in the Republican party was founded
ideologically by Leo Strauss, a "man" who believed that saving his
cowboy image for America was more important than truth or honesty. Since
their inception they have invented imaginary threats to America such as
Rumsfeld's overblown image of the USSR up to Saddam's non existent WMDs.
The story is deeper, far deeper than I have written here in this sig
file. Check out this three part documentary by the BBC to learn more
about it.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
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