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http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14043050p-14874591c.html
Wal-Mart ends food donations to charity
By Todd Milbourn -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Friday, January 6, 2006
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., the nation's largest food retailer, said
Thursday it will no longer donate nearly-expired or expired food to
local groups feeding the hungry.
Instead, that food will be thrown away, a move several Sacramento
charities consider wasteful.
Olan James, a Wal-Mart spokesman, said the policy, which applies to
all 1,224 Wal-Marts, 1,929 Supercenters and 558 Sam's Clubs, is an
attempt to protect the corporation from liability in case someone who
eats the donated food gets sick.
"We can't guarantee the safety of the merchandise, and consumer safety
is our top priority," said James in a telephone interview from
Wal-Mart headquarters in Arkansas.
Most charities get their food from an array of sources, and they say
the loss of Wal-Mart or Sam's Club donations won't make a huge dent in
their stockpiles. But as increasingly efficient grocery stores have
less to donate, charities worry the stream of food donations from
grocers is diminishing.
"If they were giving it away somewhere else that wouldn't be so bad,
but the fact is, it's going into the garbage," said Owen Foley of the
St. Vincent de Paul Food Locker at Presentation Church in Sacramento.
"I mean, there's a big need."
Foley said the breads, pies and cakes his group received from the
Sam's Club on El Camino Avenue helped round out the meals served to
more than 900 families last year.
Ernie Brown, a spokesman for Sacramento's Senior Gleaners, which
received about 25,000 pounds of food in 2005 from Sam's Club on
Greenback Lane in Citrus Heights, said most food is fine to eat for
days after the "sell-by" date.
He said Wal-Mart's concerns about liability seem misplaced in light of
the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act, a federal law passed in 1996
offering food donors wide-ranging protections from civil lawsuits or
criminal prosecution. The law states that donors can be held liable
only in instances of "gross negligence."
"Lord, we get millions and millions of pounds from Raley's and Bel-Air
and Albertson's, and they don't have a problem understanding the law,"
Brown said. "Why don't Wal-Mart and Sam's Club understand the law?"
James said he is not aware of anybody suing Wal-Mart after getting
sick from donated food.
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11 Jan 2006 09:41:19 AM |
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"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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He said Wal-Mart's concerns about liability seem misplaced in light of
the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act, a federal law passed in 1996
offering food donors wide-ranging protections from civil lawsuits or
criminal prosecution. The law states that donors can be held liable
only in instances of "gross negligence."
"Lord, we get millions and millions of pounds from Raley's and Bel-Air
and Albertson's, and they don't have a problem understanding the law,"
Brown said. "Why don't Wal-Mart and Sam's Club understand the law?"
James said he is not aware of anybody suing Wal-Mart after getting
sick from donated food.
Sounds to me like they are shutting down possible lawsuits. It still costs
money to fight the suit whether or not gross negligence is proven. Just
because the food shelter say's they are not aware of any suits against
WalMart doesn't mean there aren't any. Does James at the shelter also
monitor all pending lawsiuts through all courts, or is he just taking a
guess to support his position? I am only aware of a couple of lawsuits
against WalMart, does that mean they are only fighting a couple, or is the
reality that they are fighting 5000 at any given time.
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19 Jan 2006 10:37:09 AM |
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LB, so you are in favor of feeding people expired food?
- Richard Hutnik
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| User: "Jim Alder" |
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19 Jan 2006 07:35:32 PM |
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wrote in
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LB, so you are in favor of feeding people expired food?
- Richard Hutnik
Read the article. Then look up "nonperishable."
Besides, those dates say "do not sell after..." It says
nothing about giving it away.
--
In 2003 a sociologist from Rutgers University named Ted Goertzel
wrote a paper in which he offered some insight into the psyche
of the left. Interesting reading:
In the 1970s, Stanley Rothman and Robert Lichter
administered Thematic Apperception Tests to a large sample of
"new left" radicals (Roots of Radicalism, 1982). They found that
activists were characterized by weakened self-esteem, injured
narcissism and paranoid tendencies. They were preoccupied with
power and attracted to radical ideologies that offered clear and
unambiguous answers to their questions. . . .
The unwillingness to offer alternatives reveals a lack of
self-confidence and self-esteem. If they offered their own
policy ideas they would be vulnerable to criticism. They would
run the risk that their ideas would fail, or would not seem
persuasive to others. This is especially difficult for anti-
capitalists after the fall of the Soviet Union. It has also been
difficult in the war against terrorism because Saddam Hussein
and Osama bin Laden are such unsympathetic figures.
Psychologically, it is easier to blame America for not finding a
solution than it is to put one's own ideas on the line.
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| User: "Sport Pilot" |
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20 Jan 2006 11:44:02 AM |
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wrote:
LB, so you are in favor of feeding people expired food?
- Richard Hutnik
If you are what you eat, what are you if you eat expired food?
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| User: "B1ackwater" |
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10 Jan 2006 04:29:58 PM |
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:53:23 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14043050p-14874591c.html
Wal-Mart ends food donations to charity
By Todd Milbourn -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Friday, January 6, 2006
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., the nation's largest food retailer, said
Thursday it will no longer donate nearly-expired or expired food to
local groups feeding the hungry.
Instead, that food will be thrown away, a move several Sacramento
charities consider wasteful.
1) Free food undercuts sales. I'll bet half the people
who consume it could REALLY afford it - but were
saving their money for crack instead.
2) If ONE poor SOB seems to be sickened by 'expired'
food there will be a 100 megabuck lawsuit as a
result.
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| User: "ThomJeff" |
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10 Jan 2006 05:43:32 PM |
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B1ackwater wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:53:23 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14043050p-14874591c.html
Wal-Mart ends food donations to charity
By Todd Milbourn -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Friday, January 6, 2006
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., the nation's largest food retailer, said
Thursday it will no longer donate nearly-expired or expired food to
local groups feeding the hungry.
Instead, that food will be thrown away, a move several Sacramento
charities consider wasteful.
1) Free food undercuts sales. I'll bet half the people
who consume it could REALLY afford it - but were
saving their money for crack instead.
2) If ONE poor SOB seems to be sickened by 'expired'
food there will be a 100 megabuck lawsuit as a
result.
So you too have no problem with "gross negligence."
How every republican of you.
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He said Wal-Mart's concerns about liability seem misplaced in light of
the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act, a federal law passed in 1996
offering food donors wide-ranging protections from civil lawsuits or
criminal prosecution. The law states that donors can be held liable
only in instances of "gross negligence."
---
Thom
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11 Jan 2006 12:02:40 PM |
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ThomJeff wrote:
B1ackwater wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:53:23 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14043050p-14874591c.html
Wal-Mart ends food donations to charity
By Todd Milbourn -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Friday, January 6, 2006
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., the nation's largest food retailer, said
Thursday it will no longer donate nearly-expired or expired food to
local groups feeding the hungry.
Instead, that food will be thrown away, a move several Sacramento
charities consider wasteful.
1) Free food undercuts sales. I'll bet half the people
who consume it could REALLY afford it - but were
saving their money for crack instead.
2) If ONE poor SOB seems to be sickened by 'expired'
food there will be a 100 megabuck lawsuit as a
result.
So you too have no problem with "gross negligence."
How every republican of you.
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He said Wal-Mart's concerns about liability seem misplaced in light of
the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act, a federal law passed in 1996
offering food donors wide-ranging protections from civil lawsuits or
criminal prosecution. The law states that donors can be held liable
only in instances of "gross negligence."
---..
Seems to me giving away spoiled food would come under the catagory of
"gross negligence".
Thom
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| User: "Phil Higgenbottom" |
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| Title: Re: New Wal Mart nationwide policy - Don't give expired food to hungry - THROW IT AWAY |
11 Jan 2006 12:06:45 PM |
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Sport Pilot wrote:
ThomJeff wrote:
B1ackwater wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:53:23 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14043050p-14874591c.html
Wal-Mart ends food donations to charity
By Todd Milbourn -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Friday, January 6, 2006
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., the nation's largest food retailer, said
Thursday it will no longer donate nearly-expired or expired food to
local groups feeding the hungry.
Instead, that food will be thrown away, a move several Sacramento
charities consider wasteful.
1) Free food undercuts sales. I'll bet half the people
who consume it could REALLY afford it - but were
saving their money for crack instead.
2) If ONE poor SOB seems to be sickened by 'expired'
food there will be a 100 megabuck lawsuit as a
result.
So you too have no problem with "gross negligence."
How every republican of you.
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He said Wal-Mart's concerns about liability seem misplaced in light of
the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act, a federal law passed in 1996
offering food donors wide-ranging protections from civil lawsuits or
criminal prosecution. The law states that donors can be held liable
only in instances of "gross negligence."
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Seems to me giving away spoiled food would come under the catagory of
"gross negligence".
If it is bacterially contaminated..
Otherwise, the ex. dates are just a guideline, to minimize the risk of
becoming ill...
And canned goods can last forever, really, so there is no to
necessairly waste them, when they could feed the hungery.
Again, this is chaffe.
This is a pissing contest between rich men, has nothing to do with
serving the people and everything to do with personality disorders.
Thom
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| User: "Sport Pilot" |
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11 Jan 2006 12:10:04 PM |
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Phil Higgenbottom wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
ThomJeff wrote:
B1ackwater wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:53:23 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14043050p-14874591c.html
Wal-Mart ends food donations to charity
By Todd Milbourn -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Friday, January 6, 2006
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., the nation's largest food retailer, said
Thursday it will no longer donate nearly-expired or expired food to
local groups feeding the hungry.
Instead, that food will be thrown away, a move several Sacramento
charities consider wasteful.
1) Free food undercuts sales. I'll bet half the people
who consume it could REALLY afford it - but were
saving their money for crack instead.
2) If ONE poor SOB seems to be sickened by 'expired'
food there will be a 100 megabuck lawsuit as a
result.
So you too have no problem with "gross negligence."
How every republican of you.
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He said Wal-Mart's concerns about liability seem misplaced in light of
the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act, a federal law passed in 1996
offering food donors wide-ranging protections from civil lawsuits or
criminal prosecution. The law states that donors can be held liable
only in instances of "gross negligence."
---..
Seems to me giving away spoiled food would come under the catagory of
"gross negligence".
If it is bacterially contaminated..
Otherwise, the ex. dates are just a guideline, to minimize the risk of
becoming ill...
And canned goods can last forever, really, so there is no to
necessairly waste them, when they could feed the hungery.
Wrong, canned goods can and do go bad, that is why they have an
experation date. However, you can test them, they bulge when they go
bad. IMO its the lawyers fault.
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| User: "Phil Higgenbottom" |
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11 Jan 2006 12:13:24 PM |
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Sport Pilot wrote:
Phil Higgenbottom wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
ThomJeff wrote:
B1ackwater wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:53:23 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14043050p-14874591c.html
Wal-Mart ends food donations to charity
By Todd Milbourn -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Friday, January 6, 2006
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., the nation's largest food retailer, said
Thursday it will no longer donate nearly-expired or expired food to
local groups feeding the hungry.
Instead, that food will be thrown away, a move several Sacramento
charities consider wasteful.
1) Free food undercuts sales. I'll bet half the people
who consume it could REALLY afford it - but were
saving their money for crack instead.
2) If ONE poor SOB seems to be sickened by 'expired'
food there will be a 100 megabuck lawsuit as a
result.
So you too have no problem with "gross negligence."
How every republican of you.
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He said Wal-Mart's concerns about liability seem misplaced in light of
the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act, a federal law passed in 1996
offering food donors wide-ranging protections from civil lawsuits or
criminal prosecution. The law states that donors can be held liable
only in instances of "gross negligence."
---..
Seems to me giving away spoiled food would come under the catagory of
"gross negligence".
If it is bacterially contaminated..
Otherwise, the ex. dates are just a guideline, to minimize the risk of
becoming ill...
And canned goods can last forever, really, so there is no to
necessairly waste them, when they could feed the hungery.
Wrong, canned goods can and do go bad, that is why they have an
experation date. However, you can test them, they bulge when they go
bad. IMO its the lawyers fault.
It's corporate policy, it comes from the top.
The lawyers do as they are told.
If a coop was found to distribute the food, and an agreement was
reached,and honored, by both parties, lawsuits would not be an issue,
and the hungry would get fed.
In addition, WM would have a tax write off.
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| User: "Sport Pilot" |
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11 Jan 2006 12:33:47 PM |
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Phil Higgenbottom wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
Phil Higgenbottom wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
ThomJeff wrote:
B1ackwater wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:53:23 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14043050p-14874591c.html
Wal-Mart ends food donations to charity
By Todd Milbourn -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Friday, January 6, 2006
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., the nation's largest food retailer, said
Thursday it will no longer donate nearly-expired or expired food to
local groups feeding the hungry.
Instead, that food will be thrown away, a move several Sacramento
charities consider wasteful.
1) Free food undercuts sales. I'll bet half the people
who consume it could REALLY afford it - but were
saving their money for crack instead.
2) If ONE poor SOB seems to be sickened by 'expired'
food there will be a 100 megabuck lawsuit as a
result.
So you too have no problem with "gross negligence."
How every republican of you.
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He said Wal-Mart's concerns about liability seem misplaced in light of
the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act, a federal law passed in 1996
offering food donors wide-ranging protections from civil lawsuits or
criminal prosecution. The law states that donors can be held liable
only in instances of "gross negligence."
---..
Seems to me giving away spoiled food would come under the catagory of
"gross negligence".
If it is bacterially contaminated..
Otherwise, the ex. dates are just a guideline, to minimize the risk of
becoming ill...
And canned goods can last forever, really, so there is no to
necessairly waste them, when they could feed the hungery.
Wrong, canned goods can and do go bad, that is why they have an
experation date. However, you can test them, they bulge when they go
bad. IMO its the lawyers fault.
It's corporate policy, it comes from the top.
The lawyers do as they are told.
I'm not talking about those lawers. I am talking about the ones who
will sue over nothing at the drop of the hat. Yeah, maybe Wal Mart
wins, but I bet you and your cohorts would be crying about how Wal-Mart
intentionally poisoned their food! The legal costs and lost sales from
the bad publicity would not be worth it.
If a coop was found to distribute the food, and an agreement was
reached,and honored, by both parties, lawsuits would not be an issue,
and the hungry would get fed.
BS! ON drunk who drank too much wine get sick, a lefty lawer finds out
he ate Wal Mart food, and Wal Mart woudl have a mega million law suit
on its hands!
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:53:23 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001 yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14043050p-14874591c.html
Wal-Mart ends food donations to charity
By Todd Milbourn -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Friday, January 6, 2006
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., the nation's largest food retailer, said
Thursday it will no longer donate nearly-expired or expired food to
local groups feeding the hungry.
Instead, that food will be thrown away, a move several Sacramento
charities consider wasteful.
1) Free food undercuts sales. I'll bet half the people
who consume it could REALLY afford it - but were
saving their money for crack instead.
2) If ONE poor SOB seems to be sickened by 'expired'
food there will be a 100 megabuck lawsuit as a
result.
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| User: "Trace" |
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22 Jan 2006 04:06:27 AM |
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Why not solve the problem this way: take food off the shelf thats one
week away from expiration. Then give that food away with a label
placed on that item that the food has a week before expiration.
Problem solved.
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| User: "J Clark" |
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04 Mar 2006 12:29:44 PM |
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Why not solve the problem this way: take food off the shelf thats one
week away from expiration. Then give that food away with a label
placed on that item that the food has a week before expiration.
Problem solved.
No Matter what the gulible public will want the seemingly lower prices.
However, me and my family do not shop there. I"m sure it hurts them plenty,
but we shop elsewhere.
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Jay ClarK
Far To The LEFT.com
http://www.cafepress.com/fartotheleft.49786820
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| User: "Brian Henderson" |
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23 Jan 2006 01:04:59 PM |
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On 22 Jan 2006 02:06:27 -0800, "Trace" <tracey12_12@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why not solve the problem this way: take food off the shelf thats one
week away from expiration. Then give that food away with a label
placed on that item that the food has a week before expiration.
Problem solved.
Sure, and why don't we take all the money out of your wallet while
we're at it? Walmart exists to SELL products, not give them away.
Or did that concept escape you?
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| User: "* US *" |
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25 Jan 2006 09:06:36 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:04:59 GMT, Brian Loser Henderson <BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net>
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...Walmart exists to SELL products ...
No one had claimed otherwise.
They can't legally sell expired food products,
though, which you'd realize were you cognizant.
Have you always been this stupid, or have you
experienced severe head trauma?
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30 Jan 2006 01:55:59 AM |
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* wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:04:59 GMT, Brian Loser Henderson <BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net>
wrote:
...Walmart exists to SELL products ...
No one had claimed otherwise.
They can't legally sell expired food products,
though, which you'd realize were you cognizant.
Have you always been this stupid, or have you
experienced severe head trauma?
So, what should Wal-Mart do with expired, or close-to, food? I'd like
to see them donate it. If they're worried about bad publicity then
there should be a broker to accept the donations, then the broker
distributes the food to various charities as directed. If there's a
problem with spoiled food, there's a paper trail, but only the
regulatory agency would be able to investigate.
However it works, I can see that some lawyer sitting in Wal-Mart HQ
would advise against donating food because of the potential for bad
publicity. In this case, it's more of a cultural problem than
something specific to Wal-Mart. I think the decision by Wal-Mart to
not donate food sucks, but I do see where they're coming from.
-Thufir
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22 Jan 2006 05:02:14 AM |
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Trace wrote:
Why not solve the problem this way: take food off the shelf thats one
week away from expiration. Then give that food away with a label
placed on that item that the food has a week before expiration.
Problem solved.
The dillemna chamberlain and others allude to is that Walmart/whomever
simply won't do that. These stores, presumably, donate food that
*doesn't sell.* It's not in their interests to actually donate food in
the way you've inferred, they're actually donating scraps, if you will.
It's akin to a restaurant donating food it can't sell. Business's, as
a general rule, can't afford to donate products which have an actual
value. (Pardon, of course they *do* donate things of value, and I'm
sure that there are many business's out there which donate cash, labor,
supllies and so forth, but this is a tad different because what grocery
stores "donate" has no economic value and would just go to waste if not
donated.)
-Thufir
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| User: "Trace" |
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22 Jan 2006 03:16:07 PM |
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The dillemna chamberlain and others allude to is that Walmart/whomever
simply won't do that. These stores, presumably, donate food that
*doesn't sell.* It's not in their interests to actually donate food in
the way you've inferred, they're actually donating scraps, if you will.
It's akin to a restaurant donating food it can't sell. Business's, as
a general rule, can't afford to donate products which have an actual
value. (Pardon, of course they *do* donate things of value, and I'm
sure that there are many business's out there which donate cash, labor,
supllies and so forth, but this is a tad different because what grocery
stores "donate" has no economic value and would just go to waste if not
donated.)
-Thufir
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Sure it is...Walmart can, in my example, write off the donation because
the food is still edible and not expired, thus we are talking about
getting rid of food that is within a week of expiration vs dumping food
that has expired and does not qualify as edible or a tax write off /
donation. So my approach is a redesign of the entire system. And, I
am primarily talking about foods that are processed and or canned.
Additionally, each store could have a few local donation centers in
which they can call when they have food that is not canned that is
nearing its expriation date and that would need to be eaten wthin a
couple of days.
The benefits are that Walmart won't get slapped with a liberal law suit
and will get a tax write off which they were not getting before.
Secondly, the homeless or needy will get food that is not expired.
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22 Jan 2006 03:23:00 PM |
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Oh great, Wal-Mart shows it's CONTEMPT for starving PEOPLE !!!!! Wal-
Mart is a well-behaved CALLOUS Corporate PHILISTINE.
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| User: "George Grapman" |
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22 Jan 2006 03:22:09 PM |
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Trace wrote:
The benefits are that Walmart won't get slapped with a liberal law suit
and will get a tax write off which they were not getting before.
Secondly, the homeless or needy will get food that is not expired.
What "liberal law suit" would that be? Federal law protects stores in
such cases and they were never sued.
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| User: "" |
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22 Jan 2006 09:18:17 PM |
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George Grapman wrote:
Trace wrote:
The benefits are that Walmart won't get slapped with a liberal law suit
and will get a tax write off which they were not getting before.
Secondly, the homeless or needy will get food that is not expired.
What "liberal law suit" would that be? Federal law protects stores in
such cases and they were never sued.
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As has been pointed out numerous times, walmart/whomever is protected
from lawsuits, so that's a non-issue. As to walmart looking for write
off's, sure, sounds like a nice idea, but it's not walmarts
responsability to help the homeless, it's walmarts responsability to
its shareholders to make money.
I'm uncomfortable with shifting the onus of taking care of the homeless
onto corporations when that should be the governments responsability,
nor do I see a problem with giving expired food to the homeless and I'm
leery about tax breaks for corporations, although on the face of it I
don't object to your idea, as a way of increasing overall "donations."
If it's a tax write off, is it still a donation? US farmers already
make surplus food, I don't think monkeying around with taxes is a good
solution. If walmart is looking for a tax write off, they can just
give cash, or let charities *buy* goods at reduced prices. What if
Walmart and Safeway both give tons of the same product? Kinda defeats
the purpose.
-Thufir
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| User: "Sport Pilot" |
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| Title: Re: New Wal Mart nationwide policy - Don't give expired food to hungry - THROW IT AWAY |
23 Jan 2006 07:31:42 AM |
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wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Trace wrote:
The benefits are that Walmart won't get slapped with a liberal law suit
and will get a tax write off which they were not getting before.
Secondly, the homeless or needy will get food that is not expired.
What "liberal law suit" would that be? Federal law protects stores in
such cases and they were never sued.
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As has been pointed out numerous times, walmart/whomever is protected
from lawsuits, so that's a non-issue.
There is nothing preventing them from being sued. Federal law can help
them win the case, but it won't prevent them from being sued, and the
legal expences incurred.
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| User: "George Grapman" |
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23 Jan 2006 10:29:28 AM |
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Sport Pilot wrote:
hawat.thufir@gmail.com wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Trace wrote:
The benefits are that Walmart won't get slapped with a liberal law suit
and will get a tax write off which they were not getting before.
Secondly, the homeless or needy will get food that is not expired.
What "liberal law suit" would that be? Federal law protects stores in
such cases and they were never sued.
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As has been pointed out numerous times, walmart/whomever is protected
from lawsuits, so that's a non-issue.
There is nothing preventing them from being sued. Federal law can help
them win the case, but it won't prevent them from being sued, and the
legal expences incurred.
But the case will never make it to trial.
The point is that the lie going around is that they stopped because
"liberal lawyers" were suing them .
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| User: "Sport Pilot" |
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23 Jan 2006 12:11:20 PM |
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George Grapman wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
hawat.thufir@gmail.com wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Trace wrote:
The benefits are that Walmart won't get slapped with a liberal law suit
and will get a tax write off which they were not getting before.
Secondly, the homeless or needy will get food that is not expired.
What "liberal law suit" would that be? Federal law protects stores in
such cases and they were never sued.
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As has been pointed out numerous times, walmart/whomever is protected
from lawsuits, so that's a non-issue.
There is nothing preventing them from being sued. Federal law can help
them win the case, but it won't prevent them from being sued, and the
legal expences incurred.
But the case will never make it to trial.
The point is that the lie going around is that they stopped because
"liberal lawyers" were suing them .
BS! The law makes the exeption that you can sue for gross negligence.
Which is what you have to prove to win the big bucks in anycase. In
any event a good lawer can get a poor case to trial.
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| User: "George Grapman" |
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23 Jan 2006 12:54:42 PM |
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Sport Pilot wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
hawat.thufir@gmail.com wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Trace wrote:
The benefits are that Walmart won't get slapped with a liberal law suit
and will get a tax write off which they were not getting before.
Secondly, the homeless or needy will get food that is not expired.
What "liberal law suit" would that be? Federal law protects stores in
such cases and they were never sued.
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As has been pointed out numerous times, walmart/whomever is protected
from lawsuits, so that's a non-issue.
There is nothing preventing them from being sued. Federal law can help
them win the case, but it won't prevent them from being sued, and the
legal expences incurred.
But the case will never make it to trial.
The point is that the lie going around is that they stopped because
"liberal lawyers" were suing them .
BS! The law makes the exeption that you can sue for gross negligence.
Which is what you have to prove to win the big bucks in anycase. In
any event a good lawer can get a poor case to trial.
Are you denying that people are claiming that "liberal lawyers" sued
Walmart and that is why they stopped giving food?Are you denying that,
in fact, they were never sued?
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| User: "Sport Pilot" |
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23 Jan 2006 01:10:10 PM |
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George Grapman wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
hawat.thufir@gmail.com wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Trace wrote:
The benefits are that Walmart won't get slapped with a liberal law suit
and will get a tax write off which they were not getting before.
Secondly, the homeless or needy will get food that is not expired.
What "liberal law suit" would that be? Federal law protects stores in
such cases and they were never sued.
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As has been pointed out numerous times, walmart/whomever is protected
from lawsuits, so that's a non-issue.
There is nothing preventing them from being sued. Federal law can help
them win the case, but it won't prevent them from being sued, and the
legal expences incurred.
But the case will never make it to trial.
The point is that the lie going around is that they stopped because
"liberal lawyers" were suing them .
BS! The law makes the exeption that you can sue for gross negligence.
Which is what you have to prove to win the big bucks in anycase. In
any event a good lawer can get a poor case to trial.
Are you denying that people are claiming that "liberal lawyers" sued
Walmart and that is why they stopped giving food?Are you denying that,
in fact, they were never sued?
Are you saying Wal Mart has never been sued? I think you will find the
court houses full of Wal Mart law suits.
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| User: "George Grapman" |
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| Title: Re: New Wal Mart nationwide policy - Don't give expired food to hungry- THROW IT AWAY |
23 Jan 2006 01:19:16 PM |
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Sport Pilot wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
hawat.thufir@gmail.com wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Trace wrote:
The benefits are that Walmart won't get slapped with a liberal law suit
and will get a tax write off which they were not getting before.
Secondly, the homeless or needy will get food that is not expired.
What "liberal law suit" would that be? Federal law protects stores in
such cases and they were never sued.
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As has been pointed out numerous times, walmart/whomever is protected
from lawsuits, so that's a non-issue.
There is nothing preventing them from being sued. Federal law can help
them win the case, but it won't prevent them from being sued, and the
legal expences incurred.
But the case will never make it to trial.
The point is that the lie going around is that they stopped because
"liberal lawyers" were suing them .
BS! The law makes the exeption that you can sue for gross negligence.
Which is what you have to prove to win the big bucks in anycase. In
any event a good lawer can get a poor case to trial.
Are you denying that people are claiming that "liberal lawyers" sued
Walmart and that is why they stopped giving food?Are you denying that,
in fact, they were never sued?
Are you saying Wal Mart has never been sued? I think you will find the
court houses full of Wal Mart law suits.
I am saying they were never sued over expired goods being given to
charities.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: New Wal Mart nationwide policy - Don't give expired food to hungry - THROW IT AWAY |
24 Jan 2006 07:15:05 PM |
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George Grapman wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
hawat.thufir@gmail.com wrote:
George Grapman wrote:
Trace wrote:
The benefits are that Walmart won't get slapped with a liberal law suit
and will get a tax write off which they were not getting before.
Secondly, the homeless or needy will get food that is not expired.
What "liberal law suit" would that be? Federal law protects stores in
such cases and they were never sued.
--
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As has been pointed out numerous times, walmart/whomever is protected
from lawsuits, so that's a non-issue.
There is nothing preventing them from being sued. Federal law can help
them win the case, but it won't prevent them from being sued, and the
legal expences incurred.
But the case will never make it to trial.
This is likely true. Many cases never make it to trial, and are
settled out of court. This still takes time and money, of course.
The point is that the lie going around is that they stopped because
"liberal lawyers" were suing them .
BS! The law makes the exeption that you can sue for gross negligence.
Which is what you have to prove to win the big bucks in anycase. In
any event a good lawer can get a poor case to trial.
Are you denying that people are claiming that "liberal lawyers" sued
Walmart and that is why they stopped giving food?Are you denying that,
in fact, they were never sued?
Is that indeed a fact? I understand that there are lots of lawsuits
and actions against Wal-Mart, and I'm sure that there are lots that
people don't hear about. It seems to me that Wal-Mart *could* have
been sued over expired food, and maybe settled out of court.
Do you have a source for the fact that Wal-Mart has never been sued
over expired food?
Are you saying Wal Mart has never been sued? I think you will find the
court houses full of Wal Mart law suits.
I am saying they were never sued over expired goods being given to
charities.
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24 Jan 2006 08:32:01 PM |
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wrote:
Do you have a source for the fact that Wal-Mart has never been sued
over expired food?
The James in the story is Olan James, A Walmart spokesman.
http://www.sacbee.com/content/business/story/14043085p-14874591c.html
He said Wal-Mart's concerns about liability seem misplaced in light of
the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act, a federal law passed in 1996
offering food donors wide-ranging protections from civil lawsuits or
criminal prosecution. The law states that donors can be held liable
only
in instances of "gross negligence."
"Lord, we get millions and millions of pounds from Raley's and Bel-Air
and Albertson's, and they don't have a problem understanding the law,"
Brown said. "Why don't Wal-Mart and Sam's Club understand the law?"
James said he is not aware of anybody suing Wal-Mart after getting sick
from donated food.
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