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"Captain Compassion" |
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25 Oct 2005 12:38:23 PM |
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New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name |
New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
However the notes - taken by Cheney's chief of staff Lewis Libby -
"contain no suggestion that either Mr. Cheney or Mr. Libby knew at the
time of Ms. Wilson's undercover status or that her identity was
classified."
So far, Tenet has neither confirmed nor denied that he was the
original source of the Plamegate leak, with the Times reporting that
he was "unavailable for comment."
"But another former senior intelligence official said Mr. Tenet had
been interviewed by the special prosecutor and his staff in early
2004, and never appeared before the grand jury."
Mr. Tenet has not talked since then to the prosecutors, the former
official told the Times
--
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Robert R." |
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| Title: NewsMax and Captain Compassion lie again (was Re: New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name) |
25 Oct 2005 01:25:13 PM |
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Captain Compassion wrote:
New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
Dear sweet Jesus Christ almighty. As if we needed any more
confirmation that NewsMax is a partisan right-wing rag that distorts
the truth every chance it gets, or that anyone who relies on it for
their news is likely lacking in basic cognitive abilities.
It is in no way, shape, or form a "leak," YOU FUCKING MORON, for the
head of the CIA to tell the Vice President of the United States that a
certain individual is a CIA agent, YOU FUCKING MORON, because the Vice
President has the necessary security clearance to know that, YOU
FUCKING MORON.
It becomes a leak when that information is conveyed to persons such as
Robert Novak and Judith Miller who don't have the necessary security
clearance, YOU FUCKING MORON, who then tell the world, YOU FUCKING
MORON.
I mean, can you people get any more stupid and dishonest?
Robert R.
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| User: "The Pretzel" |
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| Title: Re: NewsMax and Captain Compassion lie again (was Re: New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name) |
25 Oct 2005 01:56:09 PM |
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"Robert R." <robertr1234@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130264713.468967.175030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Captain Compassion wrote:
New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
Dear sweet Jesus Christ almighty. As if we needed any more
confirmation that NewsMax is a partisan right-wing rag that distorts
the truth every chance it gets, or that anyone who relies on it for
their news is likely lacking in basic cognitive abilities.
It is in no way, shape, or form a "leak," YOU FUCKING MORON, for the
head of the CIA to tell the Vice President of the United States that a
certain individual is a CIA agent, YOU FUCKING MORON, because the Vice
President has the necessary security clearance to know that, YOU
FUCKING MORON.
It becomes a leak when that information is conveyed to persons such as
Robert Novak and Judith Miller who don't have the necessary security
clearance, YOU FUCKING MORON, who then tell the world, YOU FUCKING
MORON.
I mean, can you people get any more stupid and dishonest?
Robert R.
Do you have to ask?
.....and why did ***** have to ask the CIA in the first place? To LEAK of
course.
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| User: "monkeyhawk" |
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| Title: Re: NewsMax and Captain Compassion lie again (was Re: New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name) |
25 Oct 2005 02:00:45 PM |
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"Robert R." <robertr1234@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Captain Compassion wrote:
New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
Dear sweet Jesus Christ almighty. As if we needed any more
confirmation that NewsMax is a partisan right-wing rag that distorts
the truth every chance it gets, or that anyone who relies on it for
their news is likely lacking in basic cognitive abilities.
It is in no way, shape, or form a "leak," YOU FUCKING MORON, for the
head of the CIA to tell the Vice President of the United States that a
certain individual is a CIA agent, YOU FUCKING MORON, because the Vice
President has the necessary security clearance to know that, YOU
FUCKING MORON.
It becomes a leak when that information is conveyed to persons such as
Robert Novak and Judith Miller who don't have the necessary security
clearance, YOU FUCKING MORON, who then tell the world, YOU FUCKING
MORON.
I mean, can you people get any more stupid and dishonest?
I'm confident they can get *much* more stupid and dishonest. And will.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: NewsMax and Captain Compassion lie again (was Re: New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name) |
25 Oct 2005 01:58:20 PM |
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On 25 Oct 2005 11:25:13 -0700, "Robert R." <robertr1234@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
Dear sweet Jesus Christ almighty. As if we needed any more
confirmation that NewsMax is a partisan right-wing rag that distorts
the truth every chance it gets, or that anyone who relies on it for
their news is likely lacking in basic cognitive abilities.
It is in no way, shape, or form a "leak," YOU FUCKING MORON, for the
head of the CIA to tell the Vice President of the United States that a
certain individual is a CIA agent, YOU FUCKING MORON, because the Vice
President has the necessary security clearance to know that, YOU
FUCKING MORON.
It becomes a leak when that information is conveyed to persons such as
Robert Novak and Judith Miller who don't have the necessary security
clearance, YOU FUCKING MORON, who then tell the world, YOU FUCKING
MORON.
Tenant put the Plame name in play. If Plame had been covert then
besides the security clearance Cheney would have to have the need to
know. I suspect that Tenet didn't consider her covert. The person who
told the world was Novak. Novak did the world a favor by disclosing
nepotism within the CIA.
--
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Jeffrey Turner" |
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| Title: Re: NewsMax and Captain Compassion lie again (was Re: New York Times:CIA Leaked Plame's Name) |
25 Oct 2005 02:37:07 PM |
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Captain Compassion wrote:
On 25 Oct 2005 11:25:13 -0700, "Robert R." <robertr1234@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
Dear sweet Jesus Christ almighty. As if we needed any more
confirmation that NewsMax is a partisan right-wing rag that distorts
the truth every chance it gets, or that anyone who relies on it for
their news is likely lacking in basic cognitive abilities.
It is in no way, shape, or form a "leak," YOU FUCKING MORON, for the
head of the CIA to tell the Vice President of the United States that a
certain individual is a CIA agent, YOU FUCKING MORON, because the Vice
President has the necessary security clearance to know that, YOU
FUCKING MORON.
It becomes a leak when that information is conveyed to persons such as
Robert Novak and Judith Miller who don't have the necessary security
clearance, YOU FUCKING MORON, who then tell the world, YOU FUCKING
MORON.
Tenant put the Plame name in play.
WTF are you talking about? The VP has clearance to know that.
If Plame had been covert then
besides the security clearance Cheney would have to have the need to
know. I suspect that Tenet didn't consider her covert. The person who
told the world was Novak. Novak did the world a favor by disclosing
nepotism within the CIA.
Need to know? And who decides that? Are you saying the DCI
outranks the Veep? Sure. Stop throwing around words like
nepotism if you have no clue what they mean.
--Jeff
--
But I venture the challenging statement
that if American democracy ceases to
move forward as a living force, seeking
day and night by peaceful means to
better the lot of our citizens, then
Fascism and Communism, aided, unconsciously
perhaps, by old-line Tory Republicanism,
will grow in strength in our land.
--Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: NewsMax and Captain Compassion lie again (was Re: New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name) |
25 Oct 2005 04:24:01 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:37:07 -0400, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 25 Oct 2005 11:25:13 -0700, "Robert R." <robertr1234@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
Dear sweet Jesus Christ almighty. As if we needed any more
confirmation that NewsMax is a partisan right-wing rag that distorts
the truth every chance it gets, or that anyone who relies on it for
their news is likely lacking in basic cognitive abilities.
It is in no way, shape, or form a "leak," YOU FUCKING MORON, for the
head of the CIA to tell the Vice President of the United States that a
certain individual is a CIA agent, YOU FUCKING MORON, because the Vice
President has the necessary security clearance to know that, YOU
FUCKING MORON.
It becomes a leak when that information is conveyed to persons such as
Robert Novak and Judith Miller who don't have the necessary security
clearance, YOU FUCKING MORON, who then tell the world, YOU FUCKING
MORON.
Tenant put the Plame name in play.
WTF are you talking about? The VP has clearance to know that.
If Plame had been covert then
besides the security clearance Cheney would have to have the need to
know. I suspect that Tenet didn't consider her covert. The person who
told the world was Novak. Novak did the world a favor by disclosing
nepotism within the CIA.
Need to know? And who decides that? Are you saying the DCI
outranks the Veep? Sure. Stop throwing around words like
nepotism if you have no clue what they mean.
Nepotism is when you get a consulting contract for your husband from
your employers.
Here's how the conversation between Tenet and Cheney went.
Cheney: Mr. Tenet this Wilson guy is claiming that the office of the
VP sent him to Africa To find out about Yellow Cake. That's not true.
How did Wilson get the assignment?
Tenet: Wilson was recommended for the assignment by one or our weapons
analysists Valery Plame.
Cheney: Why did she recommend him?
Tenet: Well Ms. Plame is Wilson's wife.
Cheney: Ok. Thanks for the info.
--
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Jeffrey Turner" |
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| Title: Re: NewsMax and Captain Compassion lie again (was Re: New York Times:CIA Leaked Plame's Name) |
25 Oct 2005 10:05:03 PM |
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Captain Compassion wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:37:07 -0400, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 25 Oct 2005 11:25:13 -0700, "Robert R." <robertr1234@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
Dear sweet Jesus Christ almighty. As if we needed any more
confirmation that NewsMax is a partisan right-wing rag that distorts
the truth every chance it gets, or that anyone who relies on it for
their news is likely lacking in basic cognitive abilities.
It is in no way, shape, or form a "leak," YOU FUCKING MORON, for the
head of the CIA to tell the Vice President of the United States that a
certain individual is a CIA agent, YOU FUCKING MORON, because the Vice
President has the necessary security clearance to know that, YOU
FUCKING MORON.
It becomes a leak when that information is conveyed to persons such as
Robert Novak and Judith Miller who don't have the necessary security
clearance, YOU FUCKING MORON, who then tell the world, YOU FUCKING
MORON.
Tenant put the Plame name in play.
WTF are you talking about? The VP has clearance to know that.
If Plame had been covert then
besides the security clearance Cheney would have to have the need to
know. I suspect that Tenet didn't consider her covert. The person who
told the world was Novak. Novak did the world a favor by disclosing
nepotism within the CIA.
Need to know? And who decides that? Are you saying the DCI
outranks the Veep? Sure. Stop throwing around words like
nepotism if you have no clue what they mean.
Nepotism is when you get a consulting contract for your husband from
your employers.
No, nepotism is when you hire a relative. Who made the hiring
decision?
Here's how the conversation between Tenet and Cheney went.
Cheney: Mr. Tenet this Wilson guy is claiming that the office of the
VP sent him to Africa To find out about Yellow Cake. That's not true.
How did Wilson get the assignment?
Tenet: Wilson was recommended for the assignment by one or our weapons
analysists Valery Plame.
Cheney: Why did she recommend him?
Tenet: Well Ms. Plame is Wilson's wife.
Cheney: Ok. Thanks for the info.
And Cheney had the clearance to know that. But only a naif
would think that a job recommendation is the same thing as a
hiring decision. Man, were you an LP in your last life? All
you can do is spin. And not even very well.
--Jeff
--
But I venture the challenging statement
that if American democracy ceases to
move forward as a living force, seeking
day and night by peaceful means to
better the lot of our citizens, then
Fascism and Communism, aided, unconsciously
perhaps, by old-line Tory Republicanism,
will grow in strength in our land.
--Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: NewsMax and Captain Compassion lie again (was Re: New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name) |
25 Oct 2005 11:51:55 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:05:03 -0400, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:37:07 -0400, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 25 Oct 2005 11:25:13 -0700, "Robert R." <robertr1234@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
Dear sweet Jesus Christ almighty. As if we needed any more
confirmation that NewsMax is a partisan right-wing rag that distorts
the truth every chance it gets, or that anyone who relies on it for
their news is likely lacking in basic cognitive abilities.
It is in no way, shape, or form a "leak," YOU FUCKING MORON, for the
head of the CIA to tell the Vice President of the United States that a
certain individual is a CIA agent, YOU FUCKING MORON, because the Vice
President has the necessary security clearance to know that, YOU
FUCKING MORON.
It becomes a leak when that information is conveyed to persons such as
Robert Novak and Judith Miller who don't have the necessary security
clearance, YOU FUCKING MORON, who then tell the world, YOU FUCKING
MORON.
Tenant put the Plame name in play.
WTF are you talking about? The VP has clearance to know that.
If Plame had been covert then
besides the security clearance Cheney would have to have the need to
know. I suspect that Tenet didn't consider her covert. The person who
told the world was Novak. Novak did the world a favor by disclosing
nepotism within the CIA.
Need to know? And who decides that? Are you saying the DCI
outranks the Veep? Sure. Stop throwing around words like
nepotism if you have no clue what they mean.
Nepotism is when you get a consulting contract for your husband from
your employers.
No, nepotism is when you hire a relative. Who made the hiring
decision?
Why is it always up to the Captain to teach you guys English?
nep•o•tism (nep‚ƒ tiz?ƒm) n. patronage or favoritism based on
family relationship.
Here's how the conversation between Tenet and Cheney went.
Cheney: Mr. Tenet this Wilson guy is claiming that the office of the
VP sent him to Africa To find out about Yellow Cake. That's not true.
How did Wilson get the assignment?
Tenet: Wilson was recommended for the assignment by one or our weapons
analysists Valery Plame.
Cheney: Why did she recommend him?
Tenet: Well Ms. Plame is Wilson's wife.
Cheney: Ok. Thanks for the info.
And Cheney had the clearance to know that. But only a naif
would think that a job recommendation is the same thing as a
hiring decision. Man, were you an LP in your last life? All
you can do is spin. And not even very well.
:)
--
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Jeffrey Turner" |
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| Title: Re: NewsMax and Captain Compassion lie again (was Re: New York Times:CIA Leaked Plame's Name) |
26 Oct 2005 11:32:39 AM |
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Captain Compassion wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:05:03 -0400, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:37:07 -0400, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 25 Oct 2005 11:25:13 -0700, "Robert R." <robertr1234@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
Dear sweet Jesus Christ almighty. As if we needed any more
confirmation that NewsMax is a partisan right-wing rag that distorts
the truth every chance it gets, or that anyone who relies on it for
their news is likely lacking in basic cognitive abilities.
It is in no way, shape, or form a "leak," YOU FUCKING MORON, for the
head of the CIA to tell the Vice President of the United States that a
certain individual is a CIA agent, YOU FUCKING MORON, because the Vice
President has the necessary security clearance to know that, YOU
FUCKING MORON.
It becomes a leak when that information is conveyed to persons such as
Robert Novak and Judith Miller who don't have the necessary security
clearance, YOU FUCKING MORON, who then tell the world, YOU FUCKING
MORON.
Tenant put the Plame name in play.
WTF are you talking about? The VP has clearance to know that.
If Plame had been covert then
besides the security clearance Cheney would have to have the need to
know. I suspect that Tenet didn't consider her covert. The person who
told the world was Novak. Novak did the world a favor by disclosing
nepotism within the CIA.
Need to know? And who decides that? Are you saying the DCI
outranks the Veep? Sure. Stop throwing around words like
nepotism if you have no clue what they mean.
Nepotism is when you get a consulting contract for your husband from
your employers.
No, nepotism is when you hire a relative. Who made the hiring
decision?
Why is it always up to the Captain to teach you guys English?
nep•o•tism (nep‚ƒ tiz?ƒm) n. patronage or favoritism based on
family relationship.
Yeah, I know you aren't really familiar with English so you have
to resort to strict dictionary definitions. But Wilson wasn't
hired based on a family relationship, he was a former ambassador
to the region who happened to be mentioned by his wife. So the
accusation is ridiculous. It's not like his previous experience
was watching Arabian horses.
--Jeff
--
But I venture the challenging statement
that if American democracy ceases to
move forward as a living force, seeking
day and night by peaceful means to
better the lot of our citizens, then
Fascism and Communism, aided, unconsciously
perhaps, by old-line Tory Republicanism,
will grow in strength in our land.
--Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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| Title: Re: NewsMax and Captain Compassion lie again (was Re: New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name) |
26 Oct 2005 10:56:28 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:32:39 -0400, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:05:03 -0400, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:37:07 -0400, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 25 Oct 2005 11:25:13 -0700, "Robert R." <robertr1234@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
Dear sweet Jesus Christ almighty. As if we needed any more
confirmation that NewsMax is a partisan right-wing rag that distorts
the truth every chance it gets, or that anyone who relies on it for
their news is likely lacking in basic cognitive abilities.
It is in no way, shape, or form a "leak," YOU FUCKING MORON, for the
head of the CIA to tell the Vice President of the United States that a
certain individual is a CIA agent, YOU FUCKING MORON, because the Vice
President has the necessary security clearance to know that, YOU
FUCKING MORON.
It becomes a leak when that information is conveyed to persons such as
Robert Novak and Judith Miller who don't have the necessary security
clearance, YOU FUCKING MORON, who then tell the world, YOU FUCKING
MORON.
Tenant put the Plame name in play.
WTF are you talking about? The VP has clearance to know that.
If Plame had been covert then
besides the security clearance Cheney would have to have the need to
know. I suspect that Tenet didn't consider her covert. The person who
told the world was Novak. Novak did the world a favor by disclosing
nepotism within the CIA.
Need to know? And who decides that? Are you saying the DCI
outranks the Veep? Sure. Stop throwing around words like
nepotism if you have no clue what they mean.
Nepotism is when you get a consulting contract for your husband from
your employers.
No, nepotism is when you hire a relative. Who made the hiring
decision?
Why is it always up to the Captain to teach you guys English?
nep•o•tism (nep‚ƒ tiz?ƒm) n. patronage or favoritism based on
family relationship.
Yeah, I know you aren't really familiar with English so you have
to resort to strict dictionary definitions. But Wilson wasn't
hired based on a family relationship, he was a former ambassador
to the region who happened to be mentioned by his wife. So the
accusation is ridiculous. It's not like his previous experience
was watching Arabian horses.
And the person pushing her bosses to hire him was his wife? How
serendipitous.
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Just one more example of why ALL of these secret, shadowy, Gestapo agencies
need to be shut down, and replaced with more controllable structures. And
THIS is nothing compared to other crimes committed against American citizens
by the thugs of the CIA. See:
http://www.americanjunta.com/The_Issues/Transparent_Government/Transparent_Government.htm
for some more examples.
Hollis,
http://www.AmericanJunta.com
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New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/25/2005 | Carl Limbacher
Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 12:03 p.m. EDT
NY Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name
The ultimate source of information identifying Leakgate accuser
Valerie Plame as a CIA employee my turn out to be the CIA itself, the
New York Times reported Tuesday.
Notes obtained by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald identify then-CIA
Director George Tenet as the person who gave up Plame's secret to the
White House, with the Times reporting that Tenet tipped Vice President
***** Cheney to her identity.
However the notes - taken by Cheney's chief of staff Lewis Libby -
"contain no suggestion that either Mr. Cheney or Mr. Libby knew at the
time of Ms. Wilson's undercover status or that her identity was
classified."
So far, Tenet has neither confirmed nor denied that he was the
original source of the Plamegate leak, with the Times reporting that
he was "unavailable for comment."
"But another former senior intelligence official said Mr. Tenet had
been interviewed by the special prosecutor and his staff in early
2004, and never appeared before the grand jury."
Mr. Tenet has not talked since then to the prosecutors, the former
official told the Times
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"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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