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"Harry Hope" |
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30 Sep 2003 09:15:02 PM |
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Newsmax bombs clowns in the White House |
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/220207.shtml
Payback Time
By John LeBoutillier
Tuesday, Sept. 30, 2003
The burgeoning flap over the leaking to the press of the name of a CIA
agent - a clear and serious violation of federal law - is a serious,
serious legal and political problem for the Bush White House.
Let us explore the numerous implications:
1) The facts: In July two high level White House aides called at least
six DC reporters - one of whom was Robert Novak - to 'slime'
whistle-blowing former US Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, by
revealing that she, Valeria Plame, is a CIA agent.
2) The CIA is furious over the 'politicization' of the identity of one
of their agents. CIA Director George Tenet has asked the Department of
Justice to investigate and bring criminal charges.
3) Former Ambassador Wilson - once appointed by the first President
Bush and the last US Ambassador to meet with Saddam before the 1990
invasion of Kuwait - believes it was G.W. Bush's closest political
advisor, Karl Rove, who either made or authorized the 'sliming' phone
calls. Wilson is so angry over this lawbreaking that he has called for
Rove to be arrested and "frog marched out of the White House in
handcuffs."
4) The Bush White House was angry at Wilson for writing a July 1, 2003
op-ed piece in the New York Times explaining his
Administration-authorized investigation into the 'Saddam tries to buys
uranium from Niger' story. After shooting down that tale, Wilson was
shocked to see the President make the same claim in this year's State
of the Union speech.
5) Now, here is a key question: who in the White House was so angry
with Wilson for 'blowing the whistle' that they authorized these six
phone calls? Certainly no one can believe that low-level aides would
even know that Plame was a CIA agent let alone feel free to have a
concerted 'leaking campaign.'
6) Clearly whoever orchestrated this anti-Wilson campaign was looking
for payback - payback for having the temerity to challenge the
veracity of the President of the United States. But their anger took
them over the edge into lawbreaking. Who in this disciplined,
top-down, well oiled White House would read Wilson's op-ed and slam
his fist down on the desk and proclaim, "That ***** is going to pay!
What do we have on him? Let's get it out there!"
7) Whoever authorized the Plame leak could possibly go to jail for
this willful act of lawbreaking. And those who actually called the six
reporters could also go to jail - unless they cop a plea and rat out
others.
8) Preliminary reports are that there is a great dissension inside the
White House staff over this leak. Many are described as 'disgusted' at
the outing of Ms. Plame.
9) There is still the question of whether or not the Ashcroft Justice
Department will honestly investigate the Bush White House. Already
Capitol Hill Democrats are calling for an Independent Counsel to do
this investigation. But that law expired and has not been renewed.
10) Meanwhile over at the Langley HQ of the CIA, there is much disgust
over the way they are always made the scapegoats by this White House.
After all, CIA Director Tenet had kept the African uranium tale out of
the Cincinnati speech last October that helped escalate the case for a
pre-emptive war against Iraq. But if heads don't roll over the Plame
leak, you can bet that CIA will leak things of their own about the
Bush White House.
11) Leaking and blackmail have always been a part of governing inside
the Beltway. But it has been one of this Administration's unexplained
curiosities why President Bush has kept Clinton's CIA Director -
especially after so many massive intelligence failures: 9/11; our
failure to get Osama; our failure to prove the existence of WMD before
the war; our failure to get Saddam; and our failure to find WMD in the
six months since the end of the war.
12) Many have wondered if Tenet has 'something' on the Bushes. Now
many more are wondering who made those six phone calls - and who
authorized them?
13) We need to reverse things: if the Clinton White House had sold out
an active-duty CIA agent as 'payback' for some whistle-blowing
article, we would be outraged. This crime is no less serious because
it was done in a Republican White House.
14) Long ago, in a piece entitled "Bush's Achilles Heel," I wrote that
this Bush's weakness was the entire mystery, secrecy and
sometimes-illegality of the intelligence community. This Plame leak
now threatens to become a huge story - involving lawbreaking, revenge,
abuse of power and the inevitable cover-up. Plus the 10 Democrats
running for President and the media are going to have a field day with
it.
15) Yep, 'tis true: payback is a *****.
____________________________________________________
Whew.
Harry
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30 Sep 2003 10:27:54 PM |
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"Harry Hope" wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/220207.shtml
Payback Time
By John LeBoutillier
Eh? Has the whole world gone topsy-turvy? NewsMax blasting the Bush
Administration????? I'm glad I was sitting down when I read the article.
Looks like Bush is losing friends fast.
9) There is still the question of whether or not the Ashcroft Justice
Department will honestly investigate the Bush White House. Already
Capitol Hill Democrats are calling for an Independent Counsel to do
this investigation. But that law expired and has not been renewed.
Gee, I wonder what the odds are that the Republican controlled Congress will
renew that law to get an Independent Counsel going on this?
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01 Oct 2003 08:00:12 AM |
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From Newsmax, no less.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:75eknvcd1tmubaaootl1oagqastgkq64nm@4ax.com...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/220207.shtml
Payback Time
By John LeBoutillier
Tuesday, Sept. 30, 2003
The burgeoning flap over the leaking to the press of the name of a CIA
agent - a clear and serious violation of federal law - is a serious,
serious legal and political problem for the Bush White House.
Let us explore the numerous implications:
1) The facts: In July two high level White House aides called at least
six DC reporters - one of whom was Robert Novak - to 'slime'
whistle-blowing former US Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, by
revealing that she, Valeria Plame, is a CIA agent.
2) The CIA is furious over the 'politicization' of the identity of one
of their agents. CIA Director George Tenet has asked the Department of
Justice to investigate and bring criminal charges.
3) Former Ambassador Wilson - once appointed by the first President
Bush and the last US Ambassador to meet with Saddam before the 1990
invasion of Kuwait - believes it was G.W. Bush's closest political
advisor, Karl Rove, who either made or authorized the 'sliming' phone
calls. Wilson is so angry over this lawbreaking that he has called for
Rove to be arrested and "frog marched out of the White House in
handcuffs."
4) The Bush White House was angry at Wilson for writing a July 1, 2003
op-ed piece in the New York Times explaining his
Administration-authorized investigation into the 'Saddam tries to buys
uranium from Niger' story. After shooting down that tale, Wilson was
shocked to see the President make the same claim in this year's State
of the Union speech.
5) Now, here is a key question: who in the White House was so angry
with Wilson for 'blowing the whistle' that they authorized these six
phone calls? Certainly no one can believe that low-level aides would
even know that Plame was a CIA agent let alone feel free to have a
concerted 'leaking campaign.'
6) Clearly whoever orchestrated this anti-Wilson campaign was looking
for payback - payback for having the temerity to challenge the
veracity of the President of the United States. But their anger took
them over the edge into lawbreaking. Who in this disciplined,
top-down, well oiled White House would read Wilson's op-ed and slam
his fist down on the desk and proclaim, "That ***** is going to pay!
What do we have on him? Let's get it out there!"
7) Whoever authorized the Plame leak could possibly go to jail for
this willful act of lawbreaking. And those who actually called the six
reporters could also go to jail - unless they cop a plea and rat out
others.
8) Preliminary reports are that there is a great dissension inside the
White House staff over this leak. Many are described as 'disgusted' at
the outing of Ms. Plame.
9) There is still the question of whether or not the Ashcroft Justice
Department will honestly investigate the Bush White House. Already
Capitol Hill Democrats are calling for an Independent Counsel to do
this investigation. But that law expired and has not been renewed.
10) Meanwhile over at the Langley HQ of the CIA, there is much disgust
over the way they are always made the scapegoats by this White House.
After all, CIA Director Tenet had kept the African uranium tale out of
the Cincinnati speech last October that helped escalate the case for a
pre-emptive war against Iraq. But if heads don't roll over the Plame
leak, you can bet that CIA will leak things of their own about the
Bush White House.
11) Leaking and blackmail have always been a part of governing inside
the Beltway. But it has been one of this Administration's unexplained
curiosities why President Bush has kept Clinton's CIA Director -
especially after so many massive intelligence failures: 9/11; our
failure to get Osama; our failure to prove the existence of WMD before
the war; our failure to get Saddam; and our failure to find WMD in the
six months since the end of the war.
12) Many have wondered if Tenet has 'something' on the Bushes. Now
many more are wondering who made those six phone calls - and who
authorized them?
13) We need to reverse things: if the Clinton White House had sold out
an active-duty CIA agent as 'payback' for some whistle-blowing
article, we would be outraged. This crime is no less serious because
it was done in a Republican White House.
14) Long ago, in a piece entitled "Bush's Achilles Heel," I wrote that
this Bush's weakness was the entire mystery, secrecy and
sometimes-illegality of the intelligence community. This Plame leak
now threatens to become a huge story - involving lawbreaking, revenge,
abuse of power and the inevitable cover-up. Plus the 10 Democrats
running for President and the media are going to have a field day with
it.
15) Yep, 'tis true: payback is a *****.
____________________________________________________
Whew.
Harry
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| User: "Al_Lien proud_liberal2003ATyahoo.com" |
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01 Oct 2003 01:01:10 AM |
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:75eknvcd1tmubaaootl1oagqastgkq64nm@4ax.com:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/220207.shtml
Payback Time
By John LeBoutillier
Tuesday, Sept. 30, 2003
Two sentences stood out here, since most of the rest was simply repeating
the facts of the story. (Though that's a suprise coming from a source like
NewsMax.)
This crime is no less serious because it was done in a Republican White
House.
Real Republicans (as opposed to the Limbaugh listeners and Fox Fans) should
take note of this statement. If Rove (and let's not kid ourselves about
who perpetrated this act) is willing to do this sort of thing once, how
often has he done it in the past? How many more times will he do it in the
future? And is it good for America? Again, real Republicans might want to
ponder those questions. Ditto-heads can listen to Rush to get your next
instructions on what to think.
15) Yep, 'tis true: payback is a *****.
It's only just begun. I want Bush, Cheney and Rove in jail. I'll settle
for two out of three.
--
Taking Back Our Country: www.deanforamerica.com/
Care Packages for Our Troops in Iraq: www.goodygiftbox.com/military.html
Updated Funnies at: http://www.geocities.com/proud_liberal2003/
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| User: "Ed" |
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01 Oct 2003 06:18:55 AM |
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Is NPR "liberal" media? Whatever you want to call it, if you listen
to the reports on this, Wilson is described as a CIA agent who
questioned Bush's claims about Iraq. There is no detail about
Wilson's key involvement with this issue or his close connection to
the Gulf war and the Bush I admin.
It all sounds kind of arcane and trivial by their accounts.
Ed
Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<75eknvcd1tmubaaootl1oagqastgkq64nm@4ax.com>...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/220207.shtml
Payback Time
By John LeBoutillier
Tuesday, Sept. 30, 2003
The burgeoning flap over the leaking to the press of the name of a CIA
agent - a clear and serious violation of federal law - is a serious,
serious legal and political problem for the Bush White House.
Let us explore the numerous implications:
1) The facts: In July two high level White House aides called at least
six DC reporters - one of whom was Robert Novak - to 'slime'
whistle-blowing former US Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, by
revealing that she, Valeria Plame, is a CIA agent.
2) The CIA is furious over the 'politicization' of the identity of one
of their agents. CIA Director George Tenet has asked the Department of
Justice to investigate and bring criminal charges.
3) Former Ambassador Wilson - once appointed by the first President
Bush and the last US Ambassador to meet with Saddam before the 1990
invasion of Kuwait - believes it was G.W. Bush's closest political
advisor, Karl Rove, who either made or authorized the 'sliming' phone
calls. Wilson is so angry over this lawbreaking that he has called for
Rove to be arrested and "frog marched out of the White House in
handcuffs."
4) The Bush White House was angry at Wilson for writing a July 1, 2003
op-ed piece in the New York Times explaining his
Administration-authorized investigation into the 'Saddam tries to buys
uranium from Niger' story. After shooting down that tale, Wilson was
shocked to see the President make the same claim in this year's State
of the Union speech.
5) Now, here is a key question: who in the White House was so angry
with Wilson for 'blowing the whistle' that they authorized these six
phone calls? Certainly no one can believe that low-level aides would
even know that Plame was a CIA agent let alone feel free to have a
concerted 'leaking campaign.'
6) Clearly whoever orchestrated this anti-Wilson campaign was looking
for payback - payback for having the temerity to challenge the
veracity of the President of the United States. But their anger took
them over the edge into lawbreaking. Who in this disciplined,
top-down, well oiled White House would read Wilson's op-ed and slam
his fist down on the desk and proclaim, "That ***** is going to pay!
What do we have on him? Let's get it out there!"
7) Whoever authorized the Plame leak could possibly go to jail for
this willful act of lawbreaking. And those who actually called the six
reporters could also go to jail - unless they cop a plea and rat out
others.
8) Preliminary reports are that there is a great dissension inside the
White House staff over this leak. Many are described as 'disgusted' at
the outing of Ms. Plame.
9) There is still the question of whether or not the Ashcroft Justice
Department will honestly investigate the Bush White House. Already
Capitol Hill Democrats are calling for an Independent Counsel to do
this investigation. But that law expired and has not been renewed.
10) Meanwhile over at the Langley HQ of the CIA, there is much disgust
over the way they are always made the scapegoats by this White House.
After all, CIA Director Tenet had kept the African uranium tale out of
the Cincinnati speech last October that helped escalate the case for a
pre-emptive war against Iraq. But if heads don't roll over the Plame
leak, you can bet that CIA will leak things of their own about the
Bush White House.
11) Leaking and blackmail have always been a part of governing inside
the Beltway. But it has been one of this Administration's unexplained
curiosities why President Bush has kept Clinton's CIA Director -
especially after so many massive intelligence failures: 9/11; our
failure to get Osama; our failure to prove the existence of WMD before
the war; our failure to get Saddam; and our failure to find WMD in the
six months since the end of the war.
12) Many have wondered if Tenet has 'something' on the Bushes. Now
many more are wondering who made those six phone calls - and who
authorized them?
13) We need to reverse things: if the Clinton White House had sold out
an active-duty CIA agent as 'payback' for some whistle-blowing
article, we would be outraged. This crime is no less serious because
it was done in a Republican White House.
14) Long ago, in a piece entitled "Bush's Achilles Heel," I wrote that
this Bush's weakness was the entire mystery, secrecy and
sometimes-illegality of the intelligence community. This Plame leak
now threatens to become a huge story - involving lawbreaking, revenge,
abuse of power and the inevitable cover-up. Plus the 10 Democrats
running for President and the media are going to have a field day with
it.
15) Yep, 'tis true: payback is a *****.
____________________________________________________
Whew.
Harry
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| User: "Trakar" |
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01 Oct 2003 09:02:23 AM |
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On 1 Oct 2003 04:18:55 -0700, (Ed) wrote:
Is NPR "liberal" media? Whatever you want to call it, if you listen
to the reports on this, Wilson is described as a CIA agent who
questioned Bush's claims about Iraq. There is no detail about
Wilson's key involvement with this issue or his close connection to
the Gulf war and the Bush I admin.
It all sounds kind of arcane and trivial by their accounts.
I've heard very clear and concise NPR and BBC reports on the topic
that are full of information, are you sure you were paying attention?
Or perhaps you've just got a sucky local public radio
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| User: "Ed" |
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06 Oct 2003 05:57:13 AM |
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They did much better the following day. I, for one, complained to them about it.
They still haven't mentioned the close relationship between Ascroft and Rove.
Ed
Trakar <trakar@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<qdglnvgf98ogggqot6k5kjdcarvo75r2j8@4ax.com>...
On 1 Oct 2003 04:18:55 -0700, (Ed) wrote:
Is NPR "liberal" media? Whatever you want to call it, if you listen
to the reports on this, Wilson is described as a CIA agent who
questioned Bush's claims about Iraq. There is no detail about
Wilson's key involvement with this issue or his close connection to
the Gulf war and the Bush I admin.
It all sounds kind of arcane and trivial by their accounts.
I've heard very clear and concise NPR and BBC reports on the topic
that are full of information, are you sure you were paying attention?
Or perhaps you've just got a sucky local public radio
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| User: "CB" |
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06 Oct 2003 07:31:01 AM |
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"Ed" <> wrote in message
news:7c6eb17d.0310060257.1b1e33b8@posting.google.com...
They did much better the following day. I, for one, complained to them
about it.
They still haven't mentioned the close relationship between Ascroft and
Rove.
Ed
Why don't you enlighten us? Is it like dim Bones?
Trakar <trakar@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:<qdglnvgf98ogggqot6k5kjdcarvo75r2j8@4ax.com>...
On 1 Oct 2003 04:18:55 -0700, (Ed) wrote:
Is NPR "liberal" media? Whatever you want to call it, if you listen
to the reports on this, Wilson is described as a CIA agent who
questioned Bush's claims about Iraq. There is no detail about
Wilson's key involvement with this issue or his close connection to
the Gulf war and the Bush I admin.
It all sounds kind of arcane and trivial by their accounts.
I've heard very clear and concise NPR and BBC reports on the topic
that are full of information, are you sure you were paying attention?
Or perhaps you've just got a sucky local public radio
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| User: "CB" |
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30 Sep 2003 09:21:57 PM |
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Unlike with Liberals, lady Justice is on the side of thosw who cooperate
rather than obstruct, hide and deflect
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:75eknvcd1tmubaaootl1oagqastgkq64nm@4ax.com...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/220207.shtml
Payback Time
By John LeBoutillier
Tuesday, Sept. 30, 2003
The burgeoning flap over the leaking to the press of the name of a CIA
agent - a clear and serious violation of federal law - is a serious,
serious legal and political problem for the Bush White House.
Let us explore the numerous implications:
1) The facts: In July two high level White House aides called at least
six DC reporters - one of whom was Robert Novak - to 'slime'
whistle-blowing former US Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, by
revealing that she, Valeria Plame, is a CIA agent.
2) The CIA is furious over the 'politicization' of the identity of one
of their agents. CIA Director George Tenet has asked the Department of
Justice to investigate and bring criminal charges.
3) Former Ambassador Wilson - once appointed by the first President
Bush and the last US Ambassador to meet with Saddam before the 1990
invasion of Kuwait - believes it was G.W. Bush's closest political
advisor, Karl Rove, who either made or authorized the 'sliming' phone
calls. Wilson is so angry over this lawbreaking that he has called for
Rove to be arrested and "frog marched out of the White House in
handcuffs."
4) The Bush White House was angry at Wilson for writing a July 1, 2003
op-ed piece in the New York Times explaining his
Administration-authorized investigation into the 'Saddam tries to buys
uranium from Niger' story. After shooting down that tale, Wilson was
shocked to see the President make the same claim in this year's State
of the Union speech.
5) Now, here is a key question: who in the White House was so angry
with Wilson for 'blowing the whistle' that they authorized these six
phone calls? Certainly no one can believe that low-level aides would
even know that Plame was a CIA agent let alone feel free to have a
concerted 'leaking campaign.'
6) Clearly whoever orchestrated this anti-Wilson campaign was looking
for payback - payback for having the temerity to challenge the
veracity of the President of the United States. But their anger took
them over the edge into lawbreaking. Who in this disciplined,
top-down, well oiled White House would read Wilson's op-ed and slam
his fist down on the desk and proclaim, "That ***** is going to pay!
What do we have on him? Let's get it out there!"
7) Whoever authorized the Plame leak could possibly go to jail for
this willful act of lawbreaking. And those who actually called the six
reporters could also go to jail - unless they cop a plea and rat out
others.
8) Preliminary reports are that there is a great dissension inside the
White House staff over this leak. Many are described as 'disgusted' at
the outing of Ms. Plame.
9) There is still the question of whether or not the Ashcroft Justice
Department will honestly investigate the Bush White House. Already
Capitol Hill Democrats are calling for an Independent Counsel to do
this investigation. But that law expired and has not been renewed.
10) Meanwhile over at the Langley HQ of the CIA, there is much disgust
over the way they are always made the scapegoats by this White House.
After all, CIA Director Tenet had kept the African uranium tale out of
the Cincinnati speech last October that helped escalate the case for a
pre-emptive war against Iraq. But if heads don't roll over the Plame
leak, you can bet that CIA will leak things of their own about the
Bush White House.
11) Leaking and blackmail have always been a part of governing inside
the Beltway. But it has been one of this Administration's unexplained
curiosities why President Bush has kept Clinton's CIA Director -
especially after so many massive intelligence failures: 9/11; our
failure to get Osama; our failure to prove the existence of WMD before
the war; our failure to get Saddam; and our failure to find WMD in the
six months since the end of the war.
12) Many have wondered if Tenet has 'something' on the Bushes. Now
many more are wondering who made those six phone calls - and who
authorized them?
13) We need to reverse things: if the Clinton White House had sold out
an active-duty CIA agent as 'payback' for some whistle-blowing
article, we would be outraged. This crime is no less serious because
it was done in a Republican White House.
14) Long ago, in a piece entitled "Bush's Achilles Heel," I wrote that
this Bush's weakness was the entire mystery, secrecy and
sometimes-illegality of the intelligence community. This Plame leak
now threatens to become a huge story - involving lawbreaking, revenge,
abuse of power and the inevitable cover-up. Plus the 10 Democrats
running for President and the media are going to have a field day with
it.
15) Yep, 'tis true: payback is a *****.
____________________________________________________
Whew.
Harry
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30 Sep 2003 10:36:08 PM |
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"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in message
news:blddo8$l5r$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
Unlike with Liberals, lady Justice is on the side of thosw who cooperate
rather than obstruct, hide and deflect
In other words, justice is not on the side of the Bush/Cheney White House.
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*My Real Name
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| User: " fâhç" |
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30 Sep 2003 10:30:23 PM |
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"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
Unlike with Liberals, lady Justice is on the side of thosw who cooperate
rather than obstruct, hide and deflect
So...taken in context with the NewMax story I guess you are saying that Lady
Justice is *not* on the side of the Bush administration. Looks like Bush
and his criminal buddies are going down in flames!
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30 Sep 2003 11:01:03 PM |
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CB wrote:
Unlike with Liberals, lady Justice is on the side of thosw who cooperate
rather than obstruct, hide and deflect
George "I was out of the loop" Bush pardoned how many cabinet mebers when
his obstruction of justice and cover up schemes were uncovered by Walsh?
The GOP did what when it was found out that Bush and crew lied and
obstructed Justice? Demand hearings into what happened and who lied about
what?
***** with a short memory and a far right bias I see.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:75eknvcd1tmubaaootl1oagqastgkq64nm@4ax.com...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/220207.shtml
Payback Time
By John LeBoutillier
Tuesday, Sept. 30, 2003
The burgeoning flap over the leaking to the press of the name of a CIA
agent - a clear and serious violation of federal law - is a serious,
serious legal and political problem for the Bush White House.
Let us explore the numerous implications:
1) The facts: In July two high level White House aides called at least
six DC reporters - one of whom was Robert Novak - to 'slime'
whistle-blowing former US Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, by
revealing that she, Valeria Plame, is a CIA agent.
2) The CIA is furious over the 'politicization' of the identity of one
of their agents. CIA Director George Tenet has asked the Department of
Justice to investigate and bring criminal charges.
3) Former Ambassador Wilson - once appointed by the first President
Bush and the last US Ambassador to meet with Saddam before the 1990
invasion of Kuwait - believes it was G.W. Bush's closest political
advisor, Karl Rove, who either made or authorized the 'sliming' phone
calls. Wilson is so angry over this lawbreaking that he has called for
Rove to be arrested and "frog marched out of the White House in
handcuffs."
4) The Bush White House was angry at Wilson for writing a July 1, 2003
op-ed piece in the New York Times explaining his
Administration-authorized investigation into the 'Saddam tries to buys
uranium from Niger' story. After shooting down that tale, Wilson was
shocked to see the President make the same claim in this year's State
of the Union speech.
5) Now, here is a key question: who in the White House was so angry
with Wilson for 'blowing the whistle' that they authorized these six
phone calls? Certainly no one can believe that low-level aides would
even know that Plame was a CIA agent let alone feel free to have a
concerted 'leaking campaign.'
6) Clearly whoever orchestrated this anti-Wilson campaign was looking
for payback - payback for having the temerity to challenge the
veracity of the President of the United States. But their anger took
them over the edge into lawbreaking. Who in this disciplined,
top-down, well oiled White House would read Wilson's op-ed and slam
his fist down on the desk and proclaim, "That ***** is going to pay!
What do we have on him? Let's get it out there!"
7) Whoever authorized the Plame leak could possibly go to jail for
this willful act of lawbreaking. And those who actually called the six
reporters could also go to jail - unless they cop a plea and rat out
others.
8) Preliminary reports are that there is a great dissension inside the
White House staff over this leak. Many are described as 'disgusted' at
the outing of Ms. Plame.
9) There is still the question of whether or not the Ashcroft Justice
Department will honestly investigate the Bush White House. Already
Capitol Hill Democrats are calling for an Independent Counsel to do
this investigation. But that law expired and has not been renewed.
10) Meanwhile over at the Langley HQ of the CIA, there is much disgust
over the way they are always made the scapegoats by this White House.
After all, CIA Director Tenet had kept the African uranium tale out of
the Cincinnati speech last October that helped escalate the case for a
pre-emptive war against Iraq. But if heads don't roll over the Plame
leak, you can bet that CIA will leak things of their own about the
Bush White House.
11) Leaking and blackmail have always been a part of governing inside
the Beltway. But it has been one of this Administration's unexplained
curiosities why President Bush has kept Clinton's CIA Director -
especially after so many massive intelligence failures: 9/11; our
failure to get Osama; our failure to prove the existence of WMD before
the war; our failure to get Saddam; and our failure to find WMD in the
six months since the end of the war.
12) Many have wondered if Tenet has 'something' on the Bushes. Now
many more are wondering who made those six phone calls - and who
authorized them?
13) We need to reverse things: if the Clinton White House had sold out
an active-duty CIA agent as 'payback' for some whistle-blowing
article, we would be outraged. This crime is no less serious because
it was done in a Republican White House.
14) Long ago, in a piece entitled "Bush's Achilles Heel," I wrote that
this Bush's weakness was the entire mystery, secrecy and
sometimes-illegality of the intelligence community. This Plame leak
now threatens to become a huge story - involving lawbreaking, revenge,
abuse of power and the inevitable cover-up. Plus the 10 Democrats
running for President and the media are going to have a field day with
it.
15) Yep, 'tis true: payback is a *****.
____________________________________________________
Whew.
Harry
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "CB" |
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30 Sep 2003 11:09:16 PM |
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DemocRATs have a history of obstruction of Justice. Trying to call the
kettle black is just another deflection.
"Wbarwell" <Wbarwell@munnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:3f7a50aa$0$132$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
CB wrote:
Unlike with Liberals, lady Justice is on the side of thosw who cooperate
rather than obstruct, hide and deflect
George "I was out of the loop" Bush pardoned how many cabinet mebers when
his obstruction of justice and cover up schemes were uncovered by Walsh?
The GOP did what when it was found out that Bush and crew lied and
obstructed Justice? Demand hearings into what happened and who lied about
what?
***** with a short memory and a far right bias I see.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:75eknvcd1tmubaaootl1oagqastgkq64nm@4ax.com...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/220207.shtml
Payback Time
By John LeBoutillier
Tuesday, Sept. 30, 2003
The burgeoning flap over the leaking to the press of the name of a CIA
agent - a clear and serious violation of federal law - is a serious,
serious legal and political problem for the Bush White House.
Let us explore the numerous implications:
1) The facts: In July two high level White House aides called at least
six DC reporters - one of whom was Robert Novak - to 'slime'
whistle-blowing former US Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, by
revealing that she, Valeria Plame, is a CIA agent.
2) The CIA is furious over the 'politicization' of the identity of one
of their agents. CIA Director George Tenet has asked the Department of
Justice to investigate and bring criminal charges.
3) Former Ambassador Wilson - once appointed by the first President
Bush and the last US Ambassador to meet with Saddam before the 1990
invasion of Kuwait - believes it was G.W. Bush's closest political
advisor, Karl Rove, who either made or authorized the 'sliming' phone
calls. Wilson is so angry over this lawbreaking that he has called for
Rove to be arrested and "frog marched out of the White House in
handcuffs."
4) The Bush White House was angry at Wilson for writing a July 1, 2003
op-ed piece in the New York Times explaining his
Administration-authorized investigation into the 'Saddam tries to buys
uranium from Niger' story. After shooting down that tale, Wilson was
shocked to see the President make the same claim in this year's State
of the Union speech.
5) Now, here is a key question: who in the White House was so angry
with Wilson for 'blowing the whistle' that they authorized these six
phone calls? Certainly no one can believe that low-level aides would
even know that Plame was a CIA agent let alone feel free to have a
concerted 'leaking campaign.'
6) Clearly whoever orchestrated this anti-Wilson campaign was looking
for payback - payback for having the temerity to challenge the
veracity of the President of the United States. But their anger took
them over the edge into lawbreaking. Who in this disciplined,
top-down, well oiled White House would read Wilson's op-ed and slam
his fist down on the desk and proclaim, "That ***** is going to pay!
What do we have on him? Let's get it out there!"
7) Whoever authorized the Plame leak could possibly go to jail for
this willful act of lawbreaking. And those who actually called the six
reporters could also go to jail - unless they cop a plea and rat out
others.
8) Preliminary reports are that there is a great dissension inside the
White House staff over this leak. Many are described as 'disgusted' at
the outing of Ms. Plame.
9) There is still the question of whether or not the Ashcroft Justice
Department will honestly investigate the Bush White House. Already
Capitol Hill Democrats are calling for an Independent Counsel to do
this investigation. But that law expired and has not been renewed.
10) Meanwhile over at the Langley HQ of the CIA, there is much disgust
over the way they are always made the scapegoats by this White House.
After all, CIA Director Tenet had kept the African uranium tale out of
the Cincinnati speech last October that helped escalate the case for a
pre-emptive war against Iraq. But if heads don't roll over the Plame
leak, you can bet that CIA will leak things of their own about the
Bush White House.
11) Leaking and blackmail have always been a part of governing inside
the Beltway. But it has been one of this Administration's unexplained
curiosities why President Bush has kept Clinton's CIA Director -
especially after so many massive intelligence failures: 9/11; our
failure to get Osama; our failure to prove the existence of WMD before
the war; our failure to get Saddam; and our failure to find WMD in the
six months since the end of the war.
12) Many have wondered if Tenet has 'something' on the Bushes. Now
many more are wondering who made those six phone calls - and who
authorized them?
13) We need to reverse things: if the Clinton White House had sold out
an active-duty CIA agent as 'payback' for some whistle-blowing
article, we would be outraged. This crime is no less serious because
it was done in a Republican White House.
14) Long ago, in a piece entitled "Bush's Achilles Heel," I wrote that
this Bush's weakness was the entire mystery, secrecy and
sometimes-illegality of the intelligence community. This Plame leak
now threatens to become a huge story - involving lawbreaking, revenge,
abuse of power and the inevitable cover-up. Plus the 10 Democrats
running for President and the media are going to have a field day with
it.
15) Yep, 'tis true: payback is a *****.
____________________________________________________
Whew.
Harry
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
.
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| User: "Wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: Newsmax bombs clowns in the White House |
30 Sep 2003 11:39:01 PM |
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CB wrote:
DemocRATs have a history of obstruction of Justice. Trying to call the
kettle black is just another deflection.
"Wbarwell" <Wbarwell@munnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:3f7a50aa$0$132$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
CB wrote:
Unlike with Liberals, lady Justice is on the side of thosw who
cooperate rather than obstruct, hide and deflect
George "I was out of the loop" Bush pardoned how many cabinet mebers when
his obstruction of justice and cover up schemes were uncovered by Walsh?
The GOP did what when it was found out that Bush and crew lied and
obstructed Justice? Demand hearings into what happened and who lied
about what?
***** with a short memory and a far right bias I see.
No answer to past history of the GOP I see.
Right winger ***** monkies squabble and screech in the
forest, smearing ***** on themselves as they chatter
and bark.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:75eknvcd1tmubaaootl1oagqastgkq64nm@4ax.com...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/220207.shtml
Payback Time
By John LeBoutillier
Tuesday, Sept. 30, 2003
The burgeoning flap over the leaking to the press of the name of a CIA
agent - a clear and serious violation of federal law - is a serious,
serious legal and political problem for the Bush White House.
Let us explore the numerous implications:
1) The facts: In July two high level White House aides called at least
six DC reporters - one of whom was Robert Novak - to 'slime'
whistle-blowing former US Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, by
revealing that she, Valeria Plame, is a CIA agent.
2) The CIA is furious over the 'politicization' of the identity of one
of their agents. CIA Director George Tenet has asked the Department of
Justice to investigate and bring criminal charges.
3) Former Ambassador Wilson - once appointed by the first President
Bush and the last US Ambassador to meet with Saddam before the 1990
invasion of Kuwait - believes it was G.W. Bush's closest political
advisor, Karl Rove, who either made or authorized the 'sliming' phone
calls. Wilson is so angry over this lawbreaking that he has called for
Rove to be arrested and "frog marched out of the White House in
handcuffs."
4) The Bush White House was angry at Wilson for writing a July 1, 2003
op-ed piece in the New York Times explaining his
Administration-authorized investigation into the 'Saddam tries to buys
uranium from Niger' story. After shooting down that tale, Wilson was
shocked to see the President make the same claim in this year's State
of the Union speech.
5) Now, here is a key question: who in the White House was so angry
with Wilson for 'blowing the whistle' that they authorized these six
phone calls? Certainly no one can believe that low-level aides would
even know that Plame was a CIA agent let alone feel free to have a
concerted 'leaking campaign.'
6) Clearly whoever orchestrated this anti-Wilson campaign was looking
for payback - payback for having the temerity to challenge the
veracity of the President of the United States. But their anger took
them over the edge into lawbreaking. Who in this disciplined,
top-down, well oiled White House would read Wilson's op-ed and slam
his fist down on the desk and proclaim, "That ***** is going to pay!
What do we have on him? Let's get it out there!"
7) Whoever authorized the Plame leak could possibly go to jail for
this willful act of lawbreaking. And those who actually called the six
reporters could also go to jail - unless they cop a plea and rat out
others.
8) Preliminary reports are that there is a great dissension inside the
White House staff over this leak. Many are described as 'disgusted' at
the outing of Ms. Plame.
9) There is still the question of whether or not the Ashcroft Justice
Department will honestly investigate the Bush White House. Already
Capitol Hill Democrats are calling for an Independent Counsel to do
this investigation. But that law expired and has not been renewed.
10) Meanwhile over at the Langley HQ of the CIA, there is much disgust
over the way they are always made the scapegoats by this White House.
After all, CIA Director Tenet had kept the African uranium tale out of
the Cincinnati speech last October that helped escalate the case for a
pre-emptive war against Iraq. But if heads don't roll over the Plame
leak, you can bet that CIA will leak things of their own about the
Bush White House.
11) Leaking and blackmail have always been a part of governing inside
the Beltway. But it has been one of this Administration's unexplained
curiosities why President Bush has kept Clinton's CIA Director -
especially after so many massive intelligence failures: 9/11; our
failure to get Osama; our failure to prove the existence of WMD before
the war; our failure to get Saddam; and our failure to find WMD in the
six months since the end of the war.
12) Many have wondered if Tenet has 'something' on the Bushes. Now
many more are wondering who made those six phone calls - and who
authorized them?
13) We need to reverse things: if the Clinton White House had sold out
an active-duty CIA agent as 'payback' for some whistle-blowing
article, we would be outraged. This crime is no less serious because
it was done in a Republican White House.
14) Long ago, in a piece entitled "Bush's Achilles Heel," I wrote that
this Bush's weakness was the entire mystery, secrecy and
sometimes-illegality of the intelligence community. This Plame leak
now threatens to become a huge story - involving lawbreaking, revenge,
abuse of power and the inevitable cover-up. Plus the 10 Democrats
running for President and the media are going to have a field day with
it.
15) Yep, 'tis true: payback is a *****.
____________________________________________________
Whew.
Harry
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
.
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| User: "CB" |
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| Title: Re: Newsmax bombs clowns in the White House |
01 Oct 2003 11:44:43 AM |
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"Wbarwell" <Wbarwell@munnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:3f7a5990$0$127$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
CB wrote:
DemocRATs have a history of obstruction of Justice. Trying to call the
kettle black is just another deflection.
"Wbarwell" <Wbarwell@munnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:3f7a50aa$0$132$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
CB wrote:
Unlike with Liberals, lady Justice is on the side of thosw who
cooperate rather than obstruct, hide and deflect
George "I was out of the loop" Bush pardoned how many cabinet mebers
when
his obstruction of justice and cover up schemes were uncovered by
Walsh?
The GOP did what when it was found out that Bush and crew lied and
obstructed Justice? Demand hearings into what happened and who lied
about what?
***** with a short memory and a far right bias I see.
No answer to past history of the GOP I see.
Right winger ***** monkies squabble and screech in the
forest, smearing ***** on themselves as they chatter
and bark.
Liberals invariably head straight into the gutter
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:75eknvcd1tmubaaootl1oagqastgkq64nm@4ax.com...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/220207.shtml
Payback Time
By John LeBoutillier
Tuesday, Sept. 30, 2003
The burgeoning flap over the leaking to the press of the name of a
CIA
agent - a clear and serious violation of federal law - is a serious,
serious legal and political problem for the Bush White House.
Let us explore the numerous implications:
1) The facts: In July two high level White House aides called at
least
six DC reporters - one of whom was Robert Novak - to 'slime'
whistle-blowing former US Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, by
revealing that she, Valeria Plame, is a CIA agent.
2) The CIA is furious over the 'politicization' of the identity of
one
of their agents. CIA Director George Tenet has asked the Department
of
Justice to investigate and bring criminal charges.
3) Former Ambassador Wilson - once appointed by the first President
Bush and the last US Ambassador to meet with Saddam before the 1990
invasion of Kuwait - believes it was G.W. Bush's closest political
advisor, Karl Rove, who either made or authorized the 'sliming'
phone
calls. Wilson is so angry over this lawbreaking that he has called
for
Rove to be arrested and "frog marched out of the White House in
handcuffs."
4) The Bush White House was angry at Wilson for writing a July 1,
2003
op-ed piece in the New York Times explaining his
Administration-authorized investigation into the 'Saddam tries to
buys
uranium from Niger' story. After shooting down that tale, Wilson was
shocked to see the President make the same claim in this year's
State
of the Union speech.
5) Now, here is a key question: who in the White House was so angry
with Wilson for 'blowing the whistle' that they authorized these six
phone calls? Certainly no one can believe that low-level aides would
even know that Plame was a CIA agent let alone feel free to have a
concerted 'leaking campaign.'
6) Clearly whoever orchestrated this anti-Wilson campaign was
looking
for payback - payback for having the temerity to challenge the
veracity of the President of the United States. But their anger took
them over the edge into lawbreaking. Who in this disciplined,
top-down, well oiled White House would read Wilson's op-ed and slam
his fist down on the desk and proclaim, "That ***** is going to
pay!
What do we have on him? Let's get it out there!"
7) Whoever authorized the Plame leak could possibly go to jail for
this willful act of lawbreaking. And those who actually called the
six
reporters could also go to jail - unless they cop a plea and rat out
others.
8) Preliminary reports are that there is a great dissension inside
the
White House staff over this leak. Many are described as 'disgusted'
at
the outing of Ms. Plame.
9) There is still the question of whether or not the Ashcroft
Justice
Department will honestly investigate the Bush White House. Already
Capitol Hill Democrats are calling for an Independent Counsel to do
this investigation. But that law expired and has not been renewed.
10) Meanwhile over at the Langley HQ of the CIA, there is much
disgust
over the way they are always made the scapegoats by this White
House.
After all, CIA Director Tenet had kept the African uranium tale out
of
the Cincinnati speech last October that helped escalate the case for
a
pre-emptive war against Iraq. But if heads don't roll over the Plame
leak, you can bet that CIA will leak things of their own about the
Bush White House.
11) Leaking and blackmail have always been a part of governing
inside
the Beltway. But it has been one of this Administration's
unexplained
curiosities why President Bush has kept Clinton's CIA Director -
especially after so many massive intelligence failures: 9/11; our
failure to get Osama; our failure to prove the existence of WMD
before
the war; our failure to get Saddam; and our failure to find WMD in
the
six months since the end of the war.
12) Many have wondered if Tenet has 'something' on the Bushes. Now
many more are wondering who made those six phone calls - and who
authorized them?
13) We need to reverse things: if the Clinton White House had sold
out
an active-duty CIA agent as 'payback' for some whistle-blowing
article, we would be outraged. This crime is no less serious because
it was done in a Republican White House.
14) Long ago, in a piece entitled "Bush's Achilles Heel," I wrote
that
this Bush's weakness was the entire mystery, secrecy and
sometimes-illegality of the intelligence community. This Plame leak
now threatens to become a huge story - involving lawbreaking,
revenge,
abuse of power and the inevitable cover-up. Plus the 10 Democrats
running for President and the media are going to have a field day
with
it.
15) Yep, 'tis true: payback is a *****.
____________________________________________________
Whew.
Harry
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
.
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| User: "mark" |
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| Title: Re: Newsmax bombs clowns in the White House |
01 Oct 2003 01:48:47 PM |
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CB wrote:
DemocRATs have a history of obstruction of Justice. Trying to call the
kettle black is just another deflection.
whew, since the other guys did it that makes it all right. I feel
better now...lol
--
mark
markjs1@*nospam*yahoo.com
~~~
"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity."
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