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"Harry Hope" |
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25 May 2005 06:27:51 AM |
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Newsweek kisses Bush Crime Family's rump. |
Hey Newsweek!
Don't think you're getting off easy!
Yes, you're on the list too this week, for acting like a bunch of
weak-assed Bush appeasers.
As soon as Scott McClellan snapped his fingers, Newsweek retracted
their story and began bowing and scraping for forgiveness from the
White House.
Despite Newsweek's peers in the news business begging them to resist,
they bent over and took the administration's punishment with a smile
on their faces. http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5409054.html
Not only that, but Scott McClellan insisted last week that simply
apologizing wasn't enough:
"It's a good first step," he simpered, but then announced that
Newsweek "now has a responsibility to spread the word to the Muslim
world that U.S. interrogators 'treat the Quran with great care and
respect,'" according to CNN.
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/05/16/newsweek.quran/index.html
How d'you like them apples Newsweek?
Welcome to Bush's America, where replacing the ugly truth with useful
lies is now the definition of "responsible journalism."
Game, set, and match.
From The Democratic Underground
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Harry
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25 May 2005 06:47:49 AM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
Hey Newsweek!
Don't think you're getting off easy!
Yes, you're on the list too this week, for acting like a bunch of
weak-assed Bush appeasers.
As soon as Scott McClellan snapped his fingers, Newsweek retracted
their story and began bowing and scraping for forgiveness from the
White House.
So now, in your pea sized mind, telling the truth and admitting when
you made a mistake is "kissing Bush's rump"? How very libtard of you.
You must have been educated at the Howard Dean school of lies and
baseless accusations.
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| User: "Edw" |
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25 May 2005 09:38:23 AM |
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"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
news:1117021669.005757.310850@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
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Harry Hope wrote:
Hey Newsweek!
Don't think you're getting off easy!
Yes, you're on the list too this week, for acting like a bunch of
weak-assed Bush appeasers.
As soon as Scott McClellan snapped his fingers, Newsweek retracted
their story and began bowing and scraping for forgiveness from the
White House.
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So now, in your pea sized mind, telling the truth and admitting when
you made a mistake is "kissing Bush's rump"? How very libtard of you.
You must have been educated at the Howard Dean school of lies and
baseless accusations.
If you knew what happened (or could bring yourself to understand it =
correctly) you wouldn't make such bizarre claims.
The story was secondarily about the Koran abuse. It reported what an =
anonymous source said of a Pentagon investigation into the charges of =
this abuse. The source said the Pentagon study found such abuse had =
occurred, and Newsweek reported it just that way. Before it was =
published, the story was submitted to the Pentagon, with a request to =
check it for accuracy. It was there for eleven days and was passed back =
to Newsweek with comments about another aspect of the story. That means =
a reasonable person would conclude that it was examined and all =
objections noted. The source in question had eleven days to correct =
his/her error. Strangely, that source "discovered" the error 24 hours =
after the article was published.
The claim that it "isn't the Pentagon's job" to check the accuracy of =
news stories is bizarre. The source was inside the Pentagon. So he/she =
had time to amke the original claim, but not the time to check it for =
accuracy? No one in the Pentagon press office, where the story =
languished for a week-and-a-half had the time or resources to do their =
job? That isn't a story about a biased press. That is a story of an =
institution supposedly competent to protect us, but not competent to do =
a simple fact check, entirely within the institution in which they work. =
Or is it a story of an institution that would turn those resources to =
purely political ends?
It is misleading in the extreme to claim it was a "single-source" story, =
and even more so to claim its retraction bears meaningfully on the truth =
or falsity of the claims that the Koran was desecrated. And, the =
Pentagon, through a press representative and Gen. Meyers, said the story =
did not provoke the rioting it is now said to have done. More =
incompetence?
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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26 May 2005 08:24:22 AM |
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Edw wrote:
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1117021669.005757.310850@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Harry Hope wrote:
Hey Newsweek!
Don't think you're getting off easy!
Yes, you're on the list too this week, for acting like a bunch of
weak-assed Bush appeasers.
As soon as Scott McClellan snapped his fingers, Newsweek retracted
their story and began bowing and scraping for forgiveness from the
White House.
So now, in your pea sized mind, telling the truth and admitting when
you made a mistake is "kissing Bush's rump"? How very libtard of you.
You must have been educated at the Howard Dean school of lies and
baseless accusations.
If you knew what happened (or could bring yourself to understand
it correctly) you wouldn't make such bizarre claims.
The story was secondarily about the Koran abuse. It reported
what an anonymous source said of a Pentagon investigation into
the charges of this abuse. The source said the Pentagon study
found such abuse had occurred, and Newsweek reported it just
that way...
And when challenged, Newsweek couldn't get their so called "secret
source" to stand by his claim. In the process Newsweek violated a
fundamental principle of responsible journalism by not getting two
independent sources. When they failed to mention that they didn't have
two independent sources for the story they in fact lied in print. It is
not the Pentagon's responsibility to check Newsweek's stories for
journalistic integrity. It is Newsweek's responsibility to do that.
Thus Newsweek is responsible for publishing a lie that got people
killed. The editors of Newsweek should be arrested for inciting riots
with lies and the company assets should be frozen and later used to pay
liability claims to the victims.
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| User: "Brandon K. Montoya" |
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27 May 2005 12:28:32 AM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
Edw wrote:
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1117021669.005757.310850@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Harry Hope wrote:
Hey Newsweek!
Don't think you're getting off easy!
Yes, you're on the list too this week, for acting like a bunch of
weak-assed Bush appeasers.
As soon as Scott McClellan snapped his fingers, Newsweek retracted
their story and began bowing and scraping for forgiveness from the
White House.
So now, in your pea sized mind, telling the truth and admitting when
you made a mistake is "kissing Bush's rump"? How very libtard of you.
You must have been educated at the Howard Dean school of lies and
baseless accusations.
If you knew what happened (or could bring yourself to understand
it correctly) you wouldn't make such bizarre claims.
The story was secondarily about the Koran abuse. It reported
what an anonymous source said of a Pentagon investigation into
the charges of this abuse. The source said the Pentagon study
found such abuse had occurred, and Newsweek reported it just
that way...
And when challenged, Newsweek couldn't get their so called "secret
source" to stand by his claim.
The Pentagon changed its story, this was beyond Newsweek's control.
In the process Newsweek violated a
fundamental principle of responsible journalism by not getting two
independent sources.
They found a story and ran it by the Pentagon which had more than a week
to respond but past.
Then there's the fact that these stories have been in the press for over
a year now, remaining undenied by the WH and Pentagon until the riots
happened.
When they failed to mention that they didn't have
two independent sources for the story they in fact lied in print. It is
not the Pentagon's responsibility to check Newsweek's stories for
journalistic integrity. It is Newsweek's responsibility to do that.
Thus Newsweek is responsible for publishing a lie that got people
killed. The editors of Newsweek should be arrested for inciting riots
with lies and the company assets should be frozen and later used to pay
liability claims to the victims.
Your "leaders" gave up that lie, it's time for you to follow suit, puggy
boy.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000930917
McClellan Backs Away from Claims that 'Newsweek' Story Cost Afghan Lives
By E&P Staff
Published: May 24, 2005 1:10 PM ET
NEW YORK At a White House press briefing Monday, Press Secretary Scott
McClellan, pressed by reporters and with Afghan President Karzai in
disagreement, retreated on claims that Newsweek's retracted story on
Koran abuse cost lives in Afghanistan.
He also claimed that he had never said it did, even though a check of
transcripts disputes that. On May 16, for example, he said, "people have
lost their lives." On May 17, he said, "People did lose their lives,"
and, "People lost their lives" due to the Newsweek report.
Here is the transcript from the latest White House press briefing:
Q: One other question. Karzai was quite definite in saying that he
didn't believe that the violence in Afghanistan was directly tied to the
Newsweek article about Koran desecration. Yet, from this podium, you
have made that link. So --
McCLELLAN: Actually, I don't think you're actually characterizing what
was said accurately.
Q: By whom?
McCLELLAN: As I said last week, and as President Karzai said today, and
as General Myers had said previously, the protest may well have been
pre-staged. The discredited report was damaging. It was used to incite
violence. But those who espouse an ideology of hatred and oppression and
murder don't need an excuse to incite violence. But the reports from the
region showed how this story was used to incite violence.
Q: But Karzai seemed to think that that wasn't what led to the violence,
that it was --
McCLELLAN: That's right, he actually -- he talked about -- President
Karzai spoke about how the demonstrations were aimed at undercutting the
progress being made toward democracy in Afghanistan, and the progress on
elections. They have elections coming up soon. And I spoke about that,
as well, last week.
Q: So could it be said that the Newsweek article played a role, but was
not --
McCLELLAN: John, I think we've made our views known when it comes to the
discredited report. There are some that want to continue to defend what
is a discredited report that has been disavowed by Newsweek, and that's
their business. We're perfectly willing to trust the American people to
make their own judgment about it.
Q: Who's doing that, exactly?
McCLELLAN: I'm sorry?
Q: Who wants to defend it?
McCLELLAN: Well, you can see in the media coverage, there are some that
want to continue to do that
--
The Neo Conservative movement in the Republican party was founded
ideologically by Leo Strauss, a "man" who believed that saving his
cowboy image for America was more important than truth or honesty. Since
their inception they have invented imaginary threats to America such as
Rumsfeld's overblown image of the USSR up to Saddam's non existent WMDs.
The story is deeper, far deeper than I have written here in this sig
file. Check out this three part documentary by the BBC to learn more
about it.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
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| User: "steve" |
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25 May 2005 07:03:21 AM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
Harry Hope wrote:
Hey Newsweek!
Don't think you're getting off easy!
Yes, you're on the list too this week, for acting like a bunch of
weak-assed Bush appeasers.
As soon as Scott McClellan snapped his fingers, Newsweek retracted
their story and began bowing and scraping for forgiveness from the
White House.
So now, in your pea sized mind, telling the truth and admitting when
you made a mistake is "kissing Bush's rump"? How very libtard of you.
You must have been educated at the Howard Dean school of lies and
baseless accusations.
What you're failing to take account of is all the OTHER reports of US
interrogators abusing the Koran.
This isn't a new story. It;s been going around for months - told by the
innocent people the US swept into its Gulag and who since been released.
The Newsweek debacle is another "Dan Rather" - a true story undermined
by the revelation of a fake source to ONE media outlet.
Newsweek was right - the US has desecrated the Koran. Where they went
wrong was in relying on only ONE source....when they would have been
spoiled for choice had they done their research. There was a story from
the UK only the week before on the same subject from several recently
released detainees.
From Reuters (in Google cache)
Koran abuse concerns raised in 2002
Fri May 20, 2005 01:32 AM BST
By Saul Hudson
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The International Committee of the Red Cross told
the Pentagon as early as 2002 detainees at Guantanamo Bay prison had
reported U.S. personnel mishandled the Koran, Red Cross and U.S.
officials said on Thursday.
The acknowledgment of the documentation of alleged abuse of the Koran
came as Washington sought to defuse anger in the Muslim world after
Newsweek reported the Muslim holy book was flushed down the toilet at
the Guantanamo prison. The magazine retracted the article on Monday
after it sparked deadly riots and was condemned by the Bush administration.
The International Committee of the Red Cross told the Pentagon
"multiple" times in 2002 and early 2003 prisoners at the base in Cuba
alleged U.S. officials showed "disrespect" for the Muslim holy book,
said Simon Schorno, an ICRC spokesman.
"The U.S. government took corrective measures and those allegations have
not resurfaced," Schorno said.
The ICRC spokesman declined to specify if the complaints included the
flushing of the Koran down the toilet or if U.S. officials used the
disrespect as part of interrogations. Members of the humanitarian
organisation, which is given access to the prison, did not witness any
mishandling of the Koran.
Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman, said the ICRC has come to the
Pentagon "on rare occasion" with allegations made by detainees at
Guantanamo.
"They are consistent with the type of things that we have talked about,
what we have found in log entries (at Guantanamo), to include things
like a Koran inadvertently falling to the floor," Whitman said.
Former Guantanamo prisoners and lawyers for detainees have for months
accused U.S. personnel at Guantanamo of putting the Koran into toilets.
Pentagon officials said this week they did not consider such statements
as credible allegations meriting investigation.
Human Rights Watch said the dispute over Newsweek's report overshadowed
the fact that religious humiliation of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and
elsewhere has been widespread.
"Around the world, the United States has been humiliating Muslim
detainees by offending their religious beliefs," Reed Brody of the New
York-based group said.
The group cited a former Army translator, who accused Guantanamo guards
of routinely tossing the Koran on the ground.
Muslims consider the Koran the literal word of God and treat each book
with reverence.
RULES ON HANDLING OF KORAN
In January 2003, the U.S. military issued guidelines to personnel at the
base that included the order: "Ensure that the Koran is not placed in
offensive areas such as the floor, near the toilet or sink, near the
feet or dirty/wet areas."
"The guidelines didn't come out of nowhere. You don't get such orders
unless there's some problem, concern or controversy," said a U.S.
official who asked not to be named.
Whitman said that "to the best of my knowledge" the concerns presented
by the ICRC did not prompt the memo.
The U.S. Southern Command, responsible for Guantanamo, Cuba, began a
fact-finding inquiry last week in the aftermath of the Newsweek report
into whether U.S. personnel at the prison put the Koran in toilets. The
Pentagon has said it has so far found nothing to substantiate the
allegation.
Anti-American sentiment has been strong in the Muslim world because of
the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and the later detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib
prison in Baghdad.
The Newsweek report sparked violent protests in Afghanistan, where 16
were killed and more than 100 injured, and in Pakistan, Indonesia and Gaza.
The Pentagon said it holds about 520 foreigners at Guantanamo, many
there for nearly 3-1/2 years. Most were caught in the Afghanistan war.
It makes on wonder why they did rely on only one source. In fact, it
makes on down right suspicious of the whole episode and all invovled in it.
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25 May 2005 08:55:04 AM |
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"steve" <steve@whosepc.org.nz> wrote in message
news:42946995@news.orcon.net.nz...
Mark Fox wrote:
Harry Hope wrote:
Hey Newsweek!
Don't think you're getting off easy!
Yes, you're on the list too this week, for acting like a bunch of
weak-assed Bush appeasers.
As soon as Scott McClellan snapped his fingers, Newsweek retracted
their story and began bowing and scraping for forgiveness from the
White House.
So now, in your pea sized mind, telling the truth and admitting when
you made a mistake is "kissing Bush's rump"? How very libtard of you.
You must have been educated at the Howard Dean school of lies and
baseless accusations.
What you're failing to take account of is all the OTHER reports of US
interrogators abusing the Koran.
This isn't a new story. It;s been going around for months - told by the
innocent people the US swept into its Gulag and who since been released.
The Newsweek debacle is another "Dan Rather" - a true story undermined by
the revelation of a fake source to ONE media outlet.
Newsweek was right - the US has desecrated the Koran. Where they went
wrong was in relying on only ONE source....when they would have been
spoiled for choice had they done their research. There was a story from
the UK only the week before on the same subject from several recently
released detainees.
This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, Dan Blather
perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
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| User: "Chance Hopkins" |
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25 May 2005 11:12:22 AM |
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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Jim E
you snipped the relavent part Jim. See it says "Reuters" not "Newsweek".
From Reuters (in Google cache)
Koran abuse concerns raised in 2002
Fri May 20, 2005 01:32 AM BST
By Saul Hudson
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The International Committee of the Red Cross told
the Pentagon as early as 2002 detainees at Guantanamo Bay prison had
reported U.S. personnel mishandled the Koran, Red Cross and U.S.
officials said on Thursday.
The acknowledgment of the documentation of alleged abuse of the Koran
came as Washington sought to defuse anger in the Muslim world after
Newsweek reported the Muslim holy book was flushed down the toilet at
the Guantanamo prison. The magazine retracted the article on Monday
after it sparked deadly riots and was condemned by the Bush administration.
The International Committee of the Red Cross told the Pentagon
"multiple" times in 2002 and early 2003 prisoners at the base in Cuba
alleged U.S. officials showed "disrespect" for the Muslim holy book,
said Simon Schorno, an ICRC spokesman.
"The U.S. government took corrective measures and those allegations have
not resurfaced," Schorno said.
The ICRC spokesman declined to specify if the complaints included the
flushing of the Koran down the toilet or if U.S. officials used the
disrespect as part of interrogations. Members of the humanitarian
organisation, which is given access to the prison, did not witness any
mishandling of the Koran.
Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman, said the ICRC has come to the
Pentagon "on rare occasion" with allegations made by detainees at
Guantanamo.
"They are consistent with the type of things that we have talked about,
what we have found in log entries (at Guantanamo), to include things
like a Koran inadvertently falling to the floor," Whitman said.
Former Guantanamo prisoners and lawyers for detainees have for months
accused U.S. personnel at Guantanamo of putting the Koran into toilets.
Pentagon officials said this week they did not consider such statements
as credible allegations meriting investigation.
Human Rights Watch said the dispute over Newsweek's report overshadowed
the fact that religious humiliation of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and
elsewhere has been widespread.
"Around the world, the United States has been humiliating Muslim
detainees by offending their religious beliefs," Reed Brody of the New
York-based group said.
The group cited a former Army translator, who accused Guantanamo guards
of routinely tossing the Koran on the ground.
Muslims consider the Koran the literal word of God and treat each book
with reverence.
RULES ON HANDLING OF KORAN
In January 2003, the U.S. military issued guidelines to personnel at the
base that included the order: "Ensure that the Koran is not placed in
offensive areas such as the floor, near the toilet or sink, near the
feet or dirty/wet areas."
"The guidelines didn't come out of nowhere. You don't get such orders
unless there's some problem, concern or controversy," said a U.S.
official who asked not to be named.
Whitman said that "to the best of my knowledge" the concerns presented
by the ICRC did not prompt the memo.
The U.S. Southern Command, responsible for Guantanamo, Cuba, began a
fact-finding inquiry last week in the aftermath of the Newsweek report
into whether U.S. personnel at the prison put the Koran in toilets. The
Pentagon has said it has so far found nothing to substantiate the
allegation.
Anti-American sentiment has been strong in the Muslim world because of
the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and the later detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib
prison in Baghdad.
The Newsweek report sparked violent protests in Afghanistan, where 16
were killed and more than 100 injured, and in Pakistan, Indonesia and Gaza.
The Pentagon said it holds about 520 foreigners at Guantanamo, many
there for nearly 3-1/2 years. Most were caught in the Afghanistan war.
It makes on wonder why they did rely on only one source. In fact, it
makes on down right suspicious of the whole episode and all invovled in it.
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25 May 2005 05:18:29 PM |
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/guantanamo_quran
FBI Records Cite Quran Abuse Allegations
By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer 34 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Terror suspects at the Guantanamo
Bay prison told U.S. interrogators as early as
April 2002, just three months after the first
detainees arrived, that military guards abused
them and desecrated the Quran, declassified FBI
records say.
"Their behavior is bad," one detainee is quoted
as saying of his guards during an interrogation
by an FBI special agent in July 2002. "About
five months ago the guards beat the detainees.
They flushed a Quran in the toilet."
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| User: "Jim E" |
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26 May 2005 12:11:46 PM |
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"Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
news:3fjedgF7urifU1@individual.net...
This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then *****.
Jim E
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| User: "Chance Hopkins" |
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26 May 2005 05:55:30 PM |
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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"Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:VQ6le.7208$Cz3.890751@monger.newsread.com...
"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
news:3fjedgF7urifU1@individual.net...
This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then
*****.
Jim E
The story says "Former Guantanamo prisoners".
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED TERRORISTS?
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| User: "Jim E" |
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28 May 2005 12:37:48 AM |
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"Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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"Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
news:3fjedgF7urifU1@individual.net...
This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then
*****.
Jim E
The story says "Former Guantanamo prisoners".
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED TERRORISTS?
TO PASSIFY LIBERAL AMBULANCE CHASERS, AND PRESS JACKYLS ???
See, I can use a caps lock too.
Looks stupid even when I do it.
Grow up.
Jim E
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31 May 2005 09:51:29 AM |
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message=20
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This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, =
Dan=20
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then=20
*****.
Jim E
The story says "Former Guantanamo prisoners".
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED TERRORISTS?
=20
TO PASSIFY LIBERAL AMBULANCE CHASERS, AND PRESS JACKYLS ???
Then you should be screaming for the heads of authorities of such epic =
incompetence and cynicism.
=20
=20
See, I can use a caps lock too.
Looks stupid even when I do it.
Grow up.
Everything you do is by definition stupid.
=20
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"Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then
*****.
Jim E
The story says "Former Guantanamo prisoners".
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED TERRORISTS?
TO PASSIFY LIBERAL AMBULANCE CHASERS, AND PRESS JACKYLS ???
Then you should be screaming for the heads of authorities of such epic
incompetence and cynicism.
Nice of you t verify that you are a head lopping
terrorist suck up.
Civilized people don't saw off the heads of the
politically incorrect.
Jim E
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This whole thing should be checked out by someone =
unimpeachable, Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value =
then
*****.
Jim E
The story says "Former Guantanamo prisoners".
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED TERRORISTS?
TO PASSIFY LIBERAL AMBULANCE CHASERS, AND PRESS JACKYLS ???
=20
Then you should be screaming for the heads of authorities of such epic =
incompetence and cynicism.
=20
=20
Nice of you t verify that you are a head lopping
terrorist suck up.
Civilized people don't saw off the heads of the
politically incorrect.
Speak to the point, which has nothing to do with decapitation, you =
drooling idiot.
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Jim E=20
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This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, =
Dan=20
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then=20
*****.
Jim E
=20
The story says "Former Guantanamo prisoners".
=20
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED TERRORISTS?
I've pointed that out to it. Several times. I have concluded that =
nothing of which Jimbob has not dreamed may be admitted as fact.
=20
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28 May 2005 11:45:19 AM |
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Chance Hopkins wrote:
The story says "Former Guantanamo prisoners".
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED TERRORISTS?
Why? To appease the liberal media of course. Its the same reason the
liberals yell and scream to let rapists and murderers out of jail so
they can rape and murder again. The liberal mind is demented and likes
to be victimized by criminals again and again. That's why I don't vote
for liberals. They are irresponsible and crate a danger to your
family. The terrorists in Gitmo should stay in Gitmo until the war on
terrorism is over. Liberals, stop working against your country's
national security by pushing to let these terrorists out early.
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| User: "Brandon K. Montoya" |
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29 May 2005 12:20:33 AM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
Chance Hopkins wrote:
The story says "Former Guantanamo prisoners".
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED TERRORISTS?
Why? To appease the liberal media of course.
The US government, controlled by Republicans takes its shots from the so
called "liberal media?"
That's a bad joke, even for a retard like you.
Its the same reason the
liberals yell and scream to let rapists and murderers out of jail so
they can rape and murder again. The liberal mind is demented and likes
to be victimized by criminals again and again. That's why I don't vote
for liberals. They are irresponsible and crate a danger to your
family. The terrorists in Gitmo should stay in Gitmo until the war on
terrorism is over. Liberals, stop working against your country's
national security by pushing to let these terrorists out early.
Have you finally decided to stop calling yourself a Democrat and show
your true colors now, fascist boy?
--
The Neo Conservative movement in the Republican party was founded
ideologically by Leo Strauss, a "man" who believed that saving his
cowboy image for America was more important than truth or honesty. Since
their inception they have invented imaginary threats to America such as
Rumsfeld's overblown image of the USSR up to Saddam's non existent WMDs.
The story is deeper, far deeper than I have written here in this sig
file. Check out this three part documentary by the BBC to learn more
about it.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
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29 May 2005 06:20:39 AM |
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Brandon K. Montoya wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Chance Hopkins wrote:
The story says "Former Guantanamo prisoners".
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED TERRORISTS?
Why? To appease the liberal media of course.
The US government, controlled by Republicans takes its shots from the so
called "liberal media?"
That's a bad joke, even for a retard like you.
That was quite serious. You are the bad joke.
Its the same reason the
liberals yell and scream to let rapists and murderers out of jail so
they can rape and murder again. The liberal mind is demented and likes
to be victimized by criminals again and again. That's why I don't vote
for liberals. They are irresponsible and crate a danger to your
family. The terrorists in Gitmo should stay in Gitmo until the war on
terrorism is over. Liberals, stop working against your country's
national security by pushing to let these terrorists out early.
Have you finally decided to stop calling yourself a Democrat and show
your true colors now, fascist boy?
Let me explain it yet again for idiots like you.
I agree with every position of the democrat party except for taxes and
national security. When the democrat party leadership stops lying to
me and gets serious about lowering taxes on the hardworking middle
class and also gets serious about national security (which includes
keeping terrorists locked up at Gitmo until the war is over) then this
democrat will once again vote for democrat candidates.
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29 May 2005 08:09:27 AM |
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"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1117365639.425465.237880
@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Brandon K. Montoya wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Chance Hopkins wrote:
The story says "Former Guantanamo prisoners".
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED TERRORISTS?
Why? To appease the liberal media of course.
The US government, controlled by Republicans takes its shots from the so
called "liberal media?"
That's a bad joke, even for a retard like you.
That was quite serious. You are the bad joke.
Its the same reason the
liberals yell and scream to let rapists and murderers out of jail so
they can rape and murder again. The liberal mind is demented and
likes
to be victimized by criminals again and again. That's why I don't
vote
for liberals. They are irresponsible and crate a danger to your
family. The terrorists in Gitmo should stay in Gitmo until the war on
terrorism is over. Liberals, stop working against your country's
national security by pushing to let these terrorists out early.
Have you finally decided to stop calling yourself a Democrat and show
your true colors now, fascist boy?
Let me explain it yet again for idiots like you.
I agree with every position of the democrat party except for taxes and
national security. When the democrat party leadership stops lying to
me and gets serious about lowering taxes on the hardworking middle
class and also gets serious about national security (which includes
keeping terrorists locked up at Gitmo until the war is over) then this
democrat will once again vote for democrat candidates.
Rather contrary positions you seem to
take there. You want to lower taxes but
increase spending on the military. Where do
you think the additional money should come
from?
PS: Reagan lowered taxes and increased
military spending - and racked up more debt
than all other presidents combined.
Mitchell Holman
Federal deficit in 2001 = 0
Federal deficit in 2002 = 154 Billion
Federal deficit in 2003 = 374 Billion
Federal deficit in 2004 = 412 Billion
Federal deficit in 2005 = 427 Billion
Spending bills vetoed by Bush = 0
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29 May 2005 12:09:17 PM |
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Mitchell Holman <ta2eneNoEmail*@comcast.com> wrote in
news:Xns966552FD4577Eta2eene2@216.196.97.131:
Let me explain it yet again for idiots like you.
Rather contrary positions you seem to
take there. You want to lower taxes but
increase spending on the military. Where do
you think the additional money should come
from?
Let's start by getting rid of every entitlement program like
welfare and force people to work. That would include that
monthly check you collect, Mitchie baby. Get a job.
--
The best thing about winning the election is all the howling
loony leftist moonbats. I get a warm fuzzy feeling everytime
a liberal squeals.
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| User: "Brandon K. Montoya" |
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30 May 2005 04:21:20 AM |
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Asmodeus wrote:
Mitchell Holman <ta2eneNoEmail*@comcast.com> wrote in
news:Xns966552FD4577Eta2eene2@216.196.97.131:
Let me explain it yet again for idiots like you.
Rather contrary positions you seem to
take there. You want to lower taxes but
increase spending on the military. Where do
you think the additional money should come
from?
Let's start by getting rid of every entitlement program like
welfare and force people to work. That would include that
monthly check you collect, Mitchie baby. Get a job.
As long as Republicans borrow and spend more than America makes, taxes
must be raised. For all their chatter of small government they never
move to do it. For all the whining about lower taxes, the best they
could give you was a smokescreen tax rebate check that they called a
"tax break." For all the bitching about balancing the budget it sure as
hell hasn't happened at all, and they have the votes to do it if they
had a plan.
--
The best thing about winning the election is all the howling
loony leftist moonbats. I get a warm fuzzy feeling everytime
a liberal squeals.
--
The Neo Conservative movement in the Republican party was founded
ideologically by Leo Strauss, a "man" who believed that saving his
cowboy image for America was more important than truth or honesty. Since
their inception they have invented imaginary threats to America such as
Rumsfeld's overblown image of the USSR up to Saddam's non existent WMDs.
The story is deeper, far deeper than I have written here in this sig
file. Check out this three part documentary by the BBC to learn more
about it.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
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30 May 2005 12:02:35 PM |
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Assmunch <assmunch@REMOVEinsightbb.com> wrote:
Mitchell Holman <ta2eneNoEmail*@comcast.com> wrote in
news:Xns966552FD4577Eta2eene2@216.196.97.131:
Let me explain it yet again for idiots like you.
Rather contrary positions you seem to take there. You want to lower taxes but
increase spending on the military. Where do you think the additional money
should come from?
Let's start by getting rid of every entitlement program like
welfare and force people to work. That would include that
monthly check you collect, Mitchie baby. Get a job.
A job in this Republican economy? <rofl!> You live in
a rightard fantasy, rightard.
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.notserver.com/
Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
http://PerkinsTragedy.org http://www.rightard.org/
End Republican race hatred: http://www.thedarkwind.org/
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| User: "Brandon K. Montoya" |
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29 May 2005 07:11:47 AM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
Brandon K. Montoya wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Chance Hopkins wrote:
The story says "Former Guantanamo prisoners".
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE US GOVERNMENT RELEASED TERRORISTS?
Why? To appease the liberal media of course.
The US government, controlled by Republicans takes its shots from the so
called "liberal media?"
That's a bad joke, even for a retard like you.
That was quite serious.
Then you are quite the idiot :^)
That you think such an arrogant administration that just got done
screaching at Newsweek to toe the line that they demand they do is
controlled by the same media they scream at is wholesale stupidity.
You are the bad joke.
Its the same reason the
liberals yell and scream to let rapists and murderers out of jail so
they can rape and murder again. The liberal mind is demented and likes
to be victimized by criminals again and again. That's why I don't vote
for liberals. They are irresponsible and crate a danger to your
family. The terrorists in Gitmo should stay in Gitmo until the war on
terrorism is over. Liberals, stop working against your country's
national security by pushing to let these terrorists out early.
Have you finally decided to stop calling yourself a Democrat and show
your true colors now, fascist boy?
Let me explain it yet again for idiots like you.
I agree with every position of the democrat party except for taxes and
national security. When the democrat party leadership stops lying to
me and gets serious about lowering taxes on the hardworking middle
class and also gets serious about national security (which includes
keeping terrorists locked up at Gitmo until the war is over) then this
democrat will once again vote for democrat candidates.
Zel, is that you?
;^)
--
The Neo Conservative movement in the Republican party was founded
ideologically by Leo Strauss, a "man" who believed that saving his
cowboy image for America was more important than truth or honesty. Since
their inception they have invented imaginary threats to America such as
Rumsfeld's overblown image of the USSR up to Saddam's non existent WMDs.
The story is deeper, far deeper than I have written here in this sig
file. Check out this three part documentary by the BBC to learn more
about it.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
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26 May 2005 01:45:43 PM |
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message =
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"Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message=20
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message=20
news:3fjedgF7urifU1@individual.net...
This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, =
Dan=20
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
=20
=20
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then =
*****.
Well, the FBI, the Pentagon and the press all took them seriously enough =
to investigate.
=20
Jim E=20
=20
=20
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26 May 2005 10:07:44 PM |
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"Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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"Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then
*****.
Well, the FBI, the Pentagon and the press all took them seriously enough to
investigate.
Jim E
And found nothing, or loons like you would be trumpeting it from the roof
tops.
Jim E
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26 May 2005 10:45:27 PM |
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message =
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"Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message=20
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message=20
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"Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
news:3fjedgF7urifU1@individual.net...
This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, =
Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then=20
*****.
=20
Well, the FBI, the Pentagon and the press all took them seriously =
enough to=20
investigate.
Jim E
=20
And found nothing, or loons like you would be trumpeting it from the =
roof=20
tops.
Nice try.
But, I'm still the one using facts, and you are still the one with none.
=20
=20
Jim E=20
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27 May 2005 09:58:46 PM |
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"Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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"Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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"Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
news:3fjedgF7urifU1@individual.net...
This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then
*****.
Well, the FBI, the Pentagon and the press all took them seriously enough
to
investigate.
Jim E
And found nothing, or loons like you would be trumpeting it from the roof
tops.
Nice try.
But, I'm still the one using facts, and you are still the one with none.
So I am to accept the allegation of some islamizoid as a fact.
What you smokin there libloon?
Jim E
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31 May 2005 09:37:37 AM |
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message =
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"Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message=20
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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"Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:VQ6le.7208$Cz3.890751@monger.newsread.com...
"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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This whole thing should be checked out by someone =
unimpeachable, Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then
*****.
Well, the FBI, the Pentagon and the press all took them seriously =
enough=20
to
investigate.
Jim E
And found nothing, or loons like you would be trumpeting it from the =
roof
tops.
=20
Nice try.
But, I'm still the one using facts, and you are still the one with =
none.
=20
So I am to accept the allegation of some islamizoid as a fact.
What you smokin there libloon?
Still defending your lost postition that all Muslims are terrorists? Or =
do you have some other mindless bigotry in mind?
The allegations won't go away by trying to shout them down. That's a =
strategy for five year olds.
In fact, even the Pentagon is now saying there was Koran abuse. Jim E =
puts another one in the "L" column.
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Jim E=20
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| User: "Brandon K. Montoya" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek kisses Bush Crime Family's rump. |
27 May 2005 11:34:23 PM |
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Jim E wrote:
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This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable, Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then
*****.
Well, the FBI, the Pentagon and the press all took them seriously enough
to
investigate.
Jim E
And found nothing, or loons like you would be trumpeting it from the roof
tops.
Nice try.
But, I'm still the one using facts, and you are still the one with none.
So I am to accept the allegation of some islamizoid as a fact.
You mean the innocent person determined NOT to be a terrorist?
What, do you just want US soldiers there for oil, is that it?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050525/ap_on_re_us/guantanamo_quran
The statements about guards disrespecting the Quran echo public
allegations made many months later by some detainees and their lawyers
after the prisoners' release from Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. The
once-secret FBI documents show a consistency to the allegations and are
the first indication that Justice and Defense department officials were
aware in early 2002 that detainees were accusing their guards of
mistreating the Quran.
What you smokin there libloon?
Jim E
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The Neo Conservative movement in the Republican party was founded
ideologically by Leo Strauss, a "man" who believed that saving his
cowboy image for America was more important than truth or honesty. Since
their inception they have invented imaginary threats to America such as
Rumsfeld's overblown image of the USSR up to Saddam's non existent WMDs.
The story is deeper, far deeper than I have written here in this sig
file. Check out this three part documentary by the BBC to learn more
about it.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
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| User: "Jim E" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek kisses Bush Crime Family's rump. |
28 May 2005 12:17:27 AM |
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"Brandon K. Montoya" <theintrepid@att.net> wrote in message
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Jim E wrote:
"Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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"Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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"Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote in message
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This whole thing should be checked out by someone unimpeachable,
Dan
Blather perhaps.
He has lots of experience in these matters.
The lib press mantra
" we have no facts, but believe us"
Jim E
Here is some information from the FBI on the subject.
hmmm...maybe Newsweek was right?
Allegations are nothing but the ravings of the terrorists.
No matter ho high you pile them allegations are of less value then
*****.
Well, the FBI, the Pentagon and the press all took them seriously
enough
to
investigate.
Jim E
And found nothing, or loons like you would be trumpeting it from the
roof
tops.
Nice try.
But, I'm still the one using facts, and you are still the one with none.
So I am to accept the allegation of some islamizoid as a fact.
You mean the innocent person determined NOT to be a terrorist?
You mean the *allegation* with no corroberation?
What, do you just want US soldiers there for oil, is that it?
Now you want to hide behind the long ago debunked war for oil mantra ?
What a loser.
Jim E
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