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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE"
Date: 05 Jun 2005 02:10:22 PM
Object: Newsweek's Baghdad Bureau Chief gives up on Iraq
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8101422/site/newsweek/
By Rod Nordland
NewsweekJune 13 issue - Two years ago I went to Iraq as an unabashed
believer in toppling Saddam Hussein. I knew his regime well from
previous visits; WMDs or no, ridding the world of Saddam would surely
be for the best, and America's good intentions would carry the day.
What went wrong? A lot, but the biggest turning point was the Abu
Ghraib scandal. Since April 2004 the liberation of Iraq has become a
desperate exercise in damage control. The abuse of prisoners at Abu
Ghraib alienated a broad swath of the Iraqi public. On top of that, it
didn't work. There is no evidence that all the mistreatment and
humiliation saved a single American life or led to the capture of any
major terrorist, despite claims by the military that the prison
produced "actionable intelligence."
The most shocking thing about Abu Ghraib was not the behavior of U.S.
troops, but the incompetence of their leaders. Against the conduct of
the Lynndie Englands and the Charles Graners, I'll gladly set the
honesty and courage of Specialist Joseph Darby, the young MP who
reported the abuse. A few soldiers will always do bad things. That's
why you need competent officers, who know what the men and women under
their command are capable of—and make sure it doesn't happen.
Living and working in Iraq, it's hard not to succumb to despair. At
last count America has pumped at least $7 billion into reconstruction
projects, with little to show for it but the hostility of ordinary
Iraqis, who still have an 18 percent unemployment rate. Most of the
cash goes to U.S. contractors who spend much of it on personal
security. Basic services like electricity, water and sewers still
aren't up to prewar levels. Electricity is especially vital in a
country where summer temperatures commonly reach 125 degrees
Fahrenheit. Yet only 15 percent of Iraqis have reliable electrical
service. In the capital, where it counts most, it's only 4 percent.
The most powerful army in human history can't even protect a two-mile
stretch of road. The Airport Highway connects both the international
airport and Baghdad's main American military base, Camp Victory, to
the city center. At night U.S. troops secure the road for the use of
dignitaries; they close it to traffic and shoot at any unauthorized
vehicles. More troops and more helicopters could help make the whole
country safer. Instead the Pentagon has been drawing down the number
of helicopters. And America never deployed nearly enough soldiers.
They couldn't stop the orgy of looting that followed Saddam's fall.
Now their primary mission is self-defense at any cost—which only
deepens Iraqis' resentment.
The four-square-mile Green Zone, the one place in Baghdad where
foreigners are reasonably safe, could be a showcase of American values
and abilities. Instead the American enclave is a trash-strewn
wasteland of Mad Max-style fortifications. The traffic lights don't
work because no one has bothered to fix them. The garbage rarely gets
collected. Some of the worst ambassadors in U.S. history are the GIs
at the Green Zone's checkpoints. They've repeatedly punched Iraqi
ministers, accidentally shot at visiting dignitaries and behave (even
on good days) with all the courtesy of nightclub bouncers—to Americans
and Iraqis alike. Not that U.S. soldiers in Iraq have much to smile
about. They're overworked, much ignored on the home front and widely
despised in Iraq, with little to look forward to but the distant end
of their tours—and in most cases, another tour soon to follow. Many
are reservists who, when they get home, often face the wreckage of
careers and family.
I can't say how it will end. Iraq now has an elected government,
popular at least among Shiites and Kurds, who give it strong approval
ratings. There's even some hope that the Sunni minority will join the
constitutional process. Iraqi security forces continue to get better
trained and equipped. But Iraqis have such a long way to go, and there
are so many ways for things to get even worse. I'm not one of those
who think America should pull out immediately. There's no real choice
but to stay, probably for many years to come. The question isn't "When
will America pull out?"; it's "How bad a mess can we afford to leave
behind?" All I can say is this: last one out, please turn on the
lights.
.

User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Newsweek's Baghdad Bureau Chief gives up on Iraq 05 Jun 2005 08:02:27 PM
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:


TY for posting this. Now, do something about your nym...

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8101422/site/newsweek/

By Rod Nordland
NewsweekJune 13 issue - Two years ago I went to Iraq as an unabashed
believer in toppling Saddam Hussein. I knew his regime well from
previous visits; WMDs or no, ridding the world of Saddam would surely
be for the best, and America's good intentions would carry the day.
What went wrong? A lot, but the biggest turning point was the Abu
Ghraib scandal. Since April 2004 the liberation of Iraq has become a
desperate exercise in damage control. The abuse of prisoners at Abu
Ghraib alienated a broad swath of the Iraqi public. On top of that, it
didn't work. There is no evidence that all the mistreatment and
humiliation saved a single American life or led to the capture of any
major terrorist, despite claims by the military that the prison
produced "actionable intelligence."

The most shocking thing about Abu Ghraib was not the behavior of U.S.
troops, but the incompetence of their leaders. Against the conduct of
the Lynndie Englands and the Charles Graners, I'll gladly set the
honesty and courage of Specialist Joseph Darby, the young MP who
reported the abuse. A few soldiers will always do bad things. That's
why you need competent officers, who know what the men and women under
their command are capable of—and make sure it doesn't happen.

Living and working in Iraq, it's hard not to succumb to despair. At
last count America has pumped at least $7 billion into reconstruction
projects, with little to show for it but the hostility of ordinary
Iraqis, who still have an 18 percent unemployment rate. Most of the
cash goes to U.S. contractors who spend much of it on personal
security. Basic services like electricity, water and sewers still
aren't up to prewar levels. Electricity is especially vital in a
country where summer temperatures commonly reach 125 degrees
Fahrenheit. Yet only 15 percent of Iraqis have reliable electrical
service. In the capital, where it counts most, it's only 4 percent.

The most powerful army in human history can't even protect a two-mile
stretch of road. The Airport Highway connects both the international
airport and Baghdad's main American military base, Camp Victory, to
the city center. At night U.S. troops secure the road for the use of
dignitaries; they close it to traffic and shoot at any unauthorized
vehicles. More troops and more helicopters could help make the whole
country safer. Instead the Pentagon has been drawing down the number
of helicopters. And America never deployed nearly enough soldiers.
They couldn't stop the orgy of looting that followed Saddam's fall.
Now their primary mission is self-defense at any cost—which only
deepens Iraqis' resentment.

The four-square-mile Green Zone, the one place in Baghdad where
foreigners are reasonably safe, could be a showcase of American values
and abilities. Instead the American enclave is a trash-strewn
wasteland of Mad Max-style fortifications. The traffic lights don't
work because no one has bothered to fix them. The garbage rarely gets
collected. Some of the worst ambassadors in U.S. history are the GIs
at the Green Zone's checkpoints. They've repeatedly punched Iraqi
ministers, accidentally shot at visiting dignitaries and behave (even
on good days) with all the courtesy of nightclub bouncers—to Americans
and Iraqis alike. Not that U.S. soldiers in Iraq have much to smile
about. They're overworked, much ignored on the home front and widely
despised in Iraq, with little to look forward to but the distant end
of their tours—and in most cases, another tour soon to follow. Many
are reservists who, when they get home, often face the wreckage of
careers and family.

I can't say how it will end. Iraq now has an elected government,
popular at least among Shiites and Kurds, who give it strong approval
ratings. There's even some hope that the Sunni minority will join the
constitutional process. Iraqi security forces continue to get better
trained and equipped. But Iraqis have such a long way to go, and there
are so many ways for things to get even worse. I'm not one of those
who think America should pull out immediately. There's no real choice
but to stay, probably for many years to come. The question isn't "When
will America pull out?"; it's "How bad a mess can we afford to leave
behind?" All I can say is this: last one out, please turn on the
lights.


.
User: "Well Done"

Title: Re: Newsweek's Baghdad Bureau Chief gives up on Iraq 12 Jun 2005 03:53:21 PM
Defendario <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
TY for posting this. Now, do something about your nym...

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8101422/site/newsweek/
By Rod Nordland
NewsweekJune 13 issue - Two years ago I went to Iraq
as an unabashed believer in toppling Saddam Hussein.

<snip>

I knew his regime well from
What went wrong? A lot, but the biggest turning
point was the Abu Ghraib scandal.

<snip>
Oh, spare us the "I used to agree with but now..." *****.
This is a common ruse used by shameless left shills.
--
): "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" :(
(: Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net :)
.

User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"

Title: Re: Newsweek's Baghdad Bureau Chief gives up on Iraq 06 Jun 2005 01:13:48 AM
Defendario wrote:

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:



TY for posting this. Now, do something about your nym...

What's wrong with my nym? You object to the truth?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Newsweek's Baghdad Bureau Chief gives up on Iraq 07 Jun 2005 07:59:33 PM
"Aunt Judy Pride Of Millie's Diarrhea murdered his turd tamper" spewed,
sprayed, and otherwise expelled the following fecal matter:

Defendario wrote:

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:



TY for posting this. Now, do something about your nym...


What's wrong with my nym? You object to the truth?

Nothing's wrong with your nym; it alerts people well ahead of reading
your posts that you're a k00k.
--
Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend (Xeton2001@yahoo.com)'s words of
wisdom, love, and respect (spelling and grammatical errors left intact)
Of course he does. With a name like roger, you know he's a pervert.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/38c4ddd6a5640c4a?hl=en
What is the P&G logo?. I just went to their WS and didn't see any.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/9acb6a6cd49d23aa?hl=en
Hey stupid. I told you the other day to stop using the phrase
"conspiracy theorist". We're gover-media skeptics.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/402c7cb6952357e9?hl=en
There's not a shred of evidence that the jerries murdered anything
close to 7 million jooz. Another monstrous lie just like the 9-11
official story.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/3650866dc7ecbadc
All his amnesty talk puzzled me because most conservatives are
hatefilled racists and don't want the greaseballs in this country.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/172c99cba6bacc3c?hl=en
You're crazy. There will be a draft. Bush is gonna stage another 9-11
type event and then say we have no choice but to go to war against
every muslim nation. And democrats will say nothing.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/b4a8ea8427fdf968
Put AEOS on the list too. It came out with great earnings and guidance
today and yet went down 7% on very heavy volume. When a stock sells off
on good news, it's going much lower.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/msg/1a9e462f5ff431de?hl=en
You are an ignoramus. 9-11 was an inside job. That's for sure.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/d4b6e83b246dae5e?hl=en
Fork the dictionary. You've got your definitions and we've got ours.
You prolly also think that when laura bush blew a stop sign and crashed
into and killed her former BF, that it was just an "accident". HAHA
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/a74373e47d638020?hl=en
The issue is the psychopath doing 60 mph OVER THE LIMIT!!!!!!!!. This
guy is a murderer and i want him locked up anyway they can do it. Three
cheers for the cops.
:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=780ea958.0411162236.1a4d23a5%40posting.google.com
Market economy???? HAHAHAHA. Prices are whatever the monopolists want
to charge.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/23c9a9e267ecc08f?hl=en
If you speed loons would just slow down we wouldn't have a problem.
drive them until the holes get too big for that tire-in-a-can stuff to
work. Then do what I do and go to pep boys and get a set of used
retreads for $50 and repeat.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/dbe7ec33863c0fc4?hl=en
Fork you, beyatch. I'm the greatest troll that ever lived!!!! I'm the
world's champ at infuriating all these pschopathic car loonies. HAHAHA
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/8316b755126bd447
Screw driver training and courtesy.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/d4aaae4439d8c383
The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to pay
the interest to the banks. This has been going on for nearly a hundred
years and it's just stealing from the public and giving to the bankers.
JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/f15b1f7d7ea0dfe2
I'm not talking about increasing the money supply; just replacing
borrowed money with printed money.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/760bbaea47e5f5f9
I know what you mean, dood. I did 5 years in the can myself for beating
the crap out of a half-dozen ***** gun loonies i caught raping a
collie and I couldn't handle the food either. ***** beets with every
meal. Ended up eating nothing but cans of tuna i bought at the commy.
:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0411242021.7b529c17%40posting.google.com
I don't think knife bans will ever happen, since knives are so damn
easy to make. I remember when i was in prison for beating up a dozen
gun loonies and we used to melt down a thousand or so aspirin tablets
into a thick goo and then let it harden into a knife shape which we
sharpened against the concrete floor. Anybody can make a knife anywhere
out of anything.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rush-limbaugh/msg/018c5bbd64dd19ac
Hey dood. I've been a US senator since 98! You mean you didn't know
that???
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/2f1dd067aa0af690
I never voted in my life, you lying *****. All elections are rigged.
The globalists rigged this one by paying kerry not to attack bush.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/87a31e73cec1db38
GODDAMMIT - STOP SENDING MESSAGES TO MORE THAN FIVE GROUPS
Google won't allow more than five. It's not my job to delete excessive
group listings but i seem to spend half my life doing that. OBEY THE
RULES, YOU BUTTHOLES!!!!
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/c3d2661d3c6734ed
I am not paid to delete the excessive newsgroups you clowns are posting
to. Obey the rules or GTF out of here!!!!
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/f5c7a53c81f28cdf
Tires don't blow out anymore.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/9a619fee7f463fc2
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:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/b9727d351b4be64a
Bush is dictator and that means he has to take the blame for
everything.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/a2d35f67fd7b6003
Has he killed as many people as Laura Bush?
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.flame.niggers/msg/c2ff1fca08982a38
You don't know what you're talking about, dood. AIDS is an american
bioweapon developed by americans so that blacks would be esp
susceptible to it.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.sport.baseball/msg/cd9d112311697712
She knows it won't matter. Blake is white so the media will insist on a
not guilty verdict.
:http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/59c74805c56a5747
YOu stupid lying *****. All bush has accomplished in AFG is to make
it the world's leading heroin supplier.
And BTW it wasn't a war. It was a massacre against a defenseless nation
that never did anything to us.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/29a86842abe0d9d6
She's just damn lucky the press is owned by the GOP and doesn't crucify
her for vehicular manslaughter like they've done to ted kennedy for 35
years.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/cac630fd8aec9a63
I'm saying that bush obviously doesn't want to catch OBL. Not now that
the election is over, anyway.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/46a00a246987524f
You're crazy, dood. Google is a super rw org and they censor liberals.
RW posters here get away with everything while libs have to be choir
boys.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/ca35950242741f13
That's why so many legal scholars think republicans should be banned
from juries. Anyone who'd vote for a man who lied us into war is too
dumb to sit on a jury.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/4dc8560247663014
Wouldn't have mattered if hitty had one. He took his orders from the
same organization that roosevelt did and bush does today.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/cd58ee450b438b19
You can't even lie any good. No where in the country are cops issued
crown victorias.
:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410112125.4b572994%40posting.google.com
i'm sure jeffrey dahmer also objects to big daddy govt telling him he
can't kill people anymore.
:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1665104637d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410311919.5f4893f4%40posting.google.com
At first i thought the tars had been slashed but no, the tars were fine
:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410311926.d89b941%40posting.google.com
I hate cell phone drivers but at least this gal had the sense to drive
slowly while yakking.
:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0411231910.47c6ceb7%40posting.google.com
Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open stretch
could be 25, i thought. Turns out the cop was right. No complaints from
me then. I should have known the law.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.autos/msg/b140009050c624a9
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/hornsey/515/Xeton2001IsAMoron.html
---
( the following contains part of one of Judy's posts, which would not
otherwise
be available due to Judy's use of the X-No-Archive bit)

Of course, they're anti-safety devices!!! Why would anyone think
otherwise, loonball???. I wish you'd get off this board - you make us
intelligent anti-speeders look bad. Plus, URALOON.

I think you've got it backwards with regards to who's more radical.
Why do you use a handle that's clearly mimicking a bodily function?
C.T.

That's my real name and i'm proud of it. It's pronounced diarrhrea.
Got it? So many loons in school made fun of me!!!

:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/36b69ad3f5e8013a?hl=en
( the following contains part of one of Judy's posts, which would not
otherwise
be available due to Judy's use of the X-No-Archive bit)

That's the way it should be. In fact even having a RD in your car
should result in mandatory and permanent loss of DL. Why do you need a
device whose only function is to help you commit a crime that murders
thousands of americans a year. URAPSYCHOPATH

:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/56c432d3f6f9a6fe?dmode=source&hl=en
Straw man???? If you saw some black guy on crack with a gun, you'd go
ballistic. But alkies with guns is ok with you cause alcohol is YOUR
drug. URA STUPID ILLOGICAL HYPOCRITE.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/c59a4f089df6ecfa?hl=en
We don't need safer cars and roads. The incredible highway carnage is
entirely due to reckless drivers like you. URAMURDERER.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/misc.legal/msg/3352db7c732fd7f1?hl=en
HUH??? The cops plant the gun on him and you still say he deserved 55
years. URAPSYCHO
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/ac09b1777ac5a5ce?hl=en
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User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Newsweek's Baghdad Bureau Chief gives up on Iraq 06 Jun 2005 01:09:03 PM
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


Defendario wrote:

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

TY for posting this. Now, do something about your nym...



What's wrong with my nym? You object to the truth?


Truth aside, it impairs your credibility
.
User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"

Title: Re: Newsweek's Baghdad Bureau Chief gives up on Iraq 06 Jun 2005 10:22:10 PM
Defendario wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


Defendario wrote:

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

TY for posting this. Now, do something about your nym...



What's wrong with my nym? You object to the truth?


Truth aside, it impairs your credibility

Now that's really stupid. You say telling the truth hurts my
credibility!!!
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Newsweek's Baghdad Bureau Chief gives up on Iraq 07 Jun 2005 06:09:37 PM
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

Defendario wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


Defendario wrote:

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

TY for posting this. Now, do something about your nym...



What's wrong with my nym? You object to the truth?


Truth aside, it impairs your credibility


Now that's really stupid. You say telling the truth hurts my
credibility!!!

It is stupid, since your credibility was destoyed long ago.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Newsweek's Baghdad Bureau Chief gives up on Iraq 06 Jun 2005 03:22:40 PM
Defendario wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


Defendario wrote:

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

TY for posting this. Now, do something about your nym...



What's wrong with my nym? You object to the truth?


Truth aside, it impairs your credibility

Xeton has no concern regarding it's credibility; check out some of it's
prior posts:
Of course he does. With a name like roger, you know he's a pervert.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/38c4ddd6a5640c4a?hl=en
What is the P&G logo?. I just went to their WS and didn't see any.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/9acb6a6cd49d23aa?hl=en
Hey stupid. I told you the other day to stop using the phrase
"conspiracy theorist". We're gover-media skeptics.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/402c7cb6952357e9?hl=en
There's not a shred of evidence that the jerries murdered anything
close to 7 million jooz. Another monstrous lie just like the 9-11
official story.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/3650866dc7ecbadc
All his amnesty talk puzzled me because most conservatives are
hatefilled racists and don't want the greaseballs in this country.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/172c99cba6bacc3c?hl=en
You're crazy. There will be a draft. Bush is gonna stage another 9-11
type event and then say we have no choice but to go to war against
every muslim nation. And democrats will say nothing.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/b4a8ea8427fdf968
Put AEOS on the list too. It came out with great earnings and guidance
today and yet went down 7% on very heavy volume. When a stock sells off
on good news, it's going much lower.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/msg/1a9e462f5ff431de?hl=en
You are an ignoramus. 9-11 was an inside job. That's for sure.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/d4b6e83b246dae5e?hl=en
Fork the dictionary. You've got your definitions and we've got ours.
You prolly also think that when laura bush blew a stop sign and crashed
into and killed her former BF, that it was just an "accident". HAHA
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/a74373e47d638020?hl=en
The issue is the psychopath doing 60 mph OVER THE LIMIT!!!!!!!!. This
guy is a murderer and i want him locked up anyway they can do it. Three
cheers for the cops.
:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=780ea958.0411162236.1a4d23a5%40posting.google.com
Market economy???? HAHAHAHA. Prices are whatever the monopolists want
to charge.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/23c9a9e267ecc08f?hl=en
If you speed loons would just slow down we wouldn't have a problem.
drive them until the holes get too big for that tire-in-a-can stuff to
work. Then do what I do and go to pep boys and get a set of used
retreads for $50 and repeat.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/dbe7ec33863c0fc4?hl=en
Fork you, beyatch. I'm the greatest troll that ever lived!!!! I'm the
world's champ at infuriating all these pschopathic car loonies. HAHAHA
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/8316b755126bd447
Screw driver training and courtesy.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/d4aaae4439d8c383
The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to pay
the interest to the banks. This has been going on for nearly a hundred
years and it's just stealing from the public and giving to the bankers.
JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/f15b1f7d7ea0dfe2
I'm not talking about increasing the money supply; just replacing
borrowed money with printed money.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/760bbaea47e5f5f9
I know what you mean, dood. I did 5 years in the can myself for beating
the crap out of a half-dozen ***** gun loonies i caught raping a
collie and I couldn't handle the food either. ***** beets with every
meal. Ended up eating nothing but cans of tuna i bought at the commy.
:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0411242021.7b529c17%40posting.google.com
I don't think knife bans will ever happen, since knives are so damn
easy to make. I remember when i was in prison for beating up a dozen
gun loonies and we used to melt down a thousand or so aspirin tablets
into a thick goo and then let it harden into a knife shape which we
sharpened against the concrete floor. Anybody can make a knife anywhere
out of anything.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rush-limbaugh/msg/018c5bbd64dd19ac
Hey dood. I've been a US senator since 98! You mean you didn't know
that???
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/2f1dd067aa0af690
I never voted in my life, you lying *****. All elections are rigged.
The globalists rigged this one by paying kerry not to attack bush.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/87a31e73cec1db38
GODDAMMIT - STOP SENDING MESSAGES TO MORE THAN FIVE GROUPS
Google won't allow more than five. It's not my job to delete excessive
group listings but i seem to spend half my life doing that. OBEY THE
RULES, YOU BUTTHOLES!!!!
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/c3d2661d3c6734ed
I am not paid to delete the excessive newsgroups you clowns are posting
to. Obey the rules or GTF out of here!!!!
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/f5c7a53c81f28cdf
Tires don't blow out anymore.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/9a619fee7f463fc2
LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/b9727d351b4be64a
Bush is dictator and that means he has to take the blame for
everything.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/a2d35f67fd7b6003
Has he killed as many people as Laura Bush?
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.flame.niggers/msg/c2ff1fca08982a38
You don't know what you're talking about, dood. AIDS is an american
bioweapon developed by americans so that blacks would be esp
susceptible to it.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.sport.baseball/msg/cd9d112311697712
She knows it won't matter. Blake is white so the media will insist on a
not guilty verdict.
:http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/59c74805c56a5747
YOu stupid lying *****. All bush has accomplished in AFG is to make
it the world's leading heroin supplier.
And BTW it wasn't a war. It was a massacre against a defenseless nation
that never did anything to us.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/29a86842abe0d9d6
She's just damn lucky the press is owned by the GOP and doesn't crucify
her for vehicular manslaughter like they've done to ted kennedy for 35
years.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/cac630fd8aec9a63
I'm saying that bush obviously doesn't want to catch OBL. Not now that
the election is over, anyway.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/46a00a246987524f
You're crazy, dood. Google is a super rw org and they censor liberals.
RW posters here get away with everything while libs have to be choir
boys.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/ca35950242741f13
That's why so many legal scholars think republicans should be banned
from juries. Anyone who'd vote for a man who lied us into war is too
dumb to sit on a jury.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/4dc8560247663014
Wouldn't have mattered if hitty had one. He took his orders from the
same organization that roosevelt did and bush does today.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/cd58ee450b438b19
You can't even lie any good. No where in the country are cops issued
crown victorias.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410112125.4b572994%40posting.google.com
i'm sure jeffrey dahmer also objects to big daddy govt telling him he
can't kill people anymore.
:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1665104637d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410311919.5f4893f4%40posting.google.com
At first i thought the tars had been slashed but no, the tars were fine
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410311926.d89b941%40posting.google.com
I hate cell phone drivers but at least this gal had the sense to drive
slowly while yakking.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0411231910.47c6ceb7%40posting.google.com
Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open stretch
could be 25, i thought. Turns out the cop was right. No complaints from
me then. I should have known the law.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.autos/msg/b140009050c624a9
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/hornsey/515/Xeton2001IsAMoron.html
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( the following contains part of one of Judy's posts, which would not
otherwise
be available due to Judy's use of the X-No-Archive bit)

Of course, they're anti-safety devices!!! Why would anyone think
otherwise, loonball???. I wish you'd get off this board - you make us
intelligent anti-speeders look bad. Plus, URALOON.

I think you've got it backwards with regards to who's more radical.
Why do you use a handle that's clearly mimicking a bodily function?
C.T.

That's my real name and i'm proud of it. It's pronounced diarrhrea.
Got it? So many loons in school made fun of me!!!

:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/36b69ad3f5e8013a?hl=en
( the following contains part of one of Judy's posts, which would not
otherwise
be available due to Judy's use of the X-No-Archive bit)

That's the way it should be. In fact even having a RD in your car
should result in mandatory and permanent loss of DL. Why do you need a
device whose only function is to help you commit a crime that murders
thousands of americans a year. URAPSYCHOPATH

:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/56c432d3f6f9a6fe?dmode=source&hl=en
Straw man???? If you saw some black guy on crack with a gun, you'd go
ballistic. But alkies with guns is ok with you cause alcohol is YOUR
drug. URA STUPID ILLOGICAL HYPOCRITE.
:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/c59a4f089df6ecfa?hl=en
We don't need safer cars and roads. The incredible highway carnage is
entirely due to reckless drivers like you. URAMURDERER.
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/misc.legal/msg/3352db7c732fd7f1?hl=en
HUH??? The cops plant the gun on him and you still say he deserved 55
years. URAPSYCHO
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/ac09b1777ac5a5ce?hl=en
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User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Newsweek's Baghdad Bureau Chief gives up on Iraq 06 Jun 2005 10:24:59 PM
wrote:

Defendario wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

Defendario wrote:


laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

TY for posting this. Now, do something about your nym...



What's wrong with my nym? You object to the truth?



Truth aside, it impairs your credibility



Xeton has no concern regarding it's credibility; check out some of it's
prior posts:

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Ermm, well there would be some advantage in leaving all that behind...
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User: ""

Title: Re: Newsweek's Baghdad Bureau Chief gives up on Iraq 07 Jun 2005 07:43:02 PM
Defendario wrote:

Xeton2001IsAMoron.20.dwpj65@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Defendario wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

Defendario wrote:


laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

TY for posting this. Now, do something about your nym...



What's wrong with my nym? You object to the truth?



Truth aside, it impairs your credibility



Xeton has no concern regarding it's credibility; check out some of it's
prior posts:

<SNIP LIST>

Ermm, well there would be some advantage in leaving all that behind...

That being? :-D
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