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"American Patriot" |
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15 Aug 2007 05:44:23 PM |
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NMexicans 1st to fight & last to lay down arms in defense of the USofA. |
World War II The Pacific
=B7 158th Infantry "Cuidado"
=B7 200 Coast Anti-Artillery.Aircraft 515th Coast Anti-Artillery
Aircraft, New Mexico National Guard Units
The Bataan Death March, forced march of 70,000
American and Filipino prisoners of war captured by the
Japenese in the Pilippines WWII.
Starting out from Mariveles, on the sothern end of the
Bataan Peninsula, on April 9, 1942, they were force-marched
55 miles to San Fernando, then taken by rail to Capas, from
where they walked the final eight miles to Camp O'Donnell.
They were starved and mistreated, often kicked or beaten
on their way, and many who fell were bayonetted.
Only 54,000 reached the camp: 7,000 - 10,000 died on the
way and the rest escaped into the jungle.
N.M., in December 1945, Lt. Gen. Jonathan M. Wainwright,
commander of the North Luzon Corps, praised the 200th and
the 515th Coastal Artillery units.
"They were the first to fire and the last to lay down their
arms and only reluctantly doing so after being given a direct
order."
Many were among the survivors of the infamous Bataan Death March.
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| User: "Doug" |
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| Title: Re: NMexicans 1st to fight & last to lay down arms in defense of the USofA. |
15 Aug 2007 06:31:32 PM |
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Caught your fucking a$$ in a lie. The 158th infantry regiment was NEVER
called
Cuidado in WW2 and was NEVER involved in the Bataan death march.
Furthermore,
there is absolutely no proof it was a majority hispanic/latino regiment.
http://azvetmemorial.com/bushmasters.htm
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"American Patriot" <Kcajyer1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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World War II The Pacific
· 158th Infantry "Cuidado"
· 200 Coast Anti-Artillery.Aircraft 515th Coast Anti-Artillery
Aircraft, New Mexico National Guard Units
The Bataan Death March, forced march of 70,000
American and Filipino prisoners of war captured by the
Japenese in the Pilippines WWII.
Starting out from Mariveles, on the sothern end of the
Bataan Peninsula, on April 9, 1942, they were force-marched
55 miles to San Fernando, then taken by rail to Capas, from
where they walked the final eight miles to Camp O'Donnell.
They were starved and mistreated, often kicked or beaten
on their way, and many who fell were bayonetted.
Only 54,000 reached the camp: 7,000 - 10,000 died on the
way and the rest escaped into the jungle.
N.M., in December 1945, Lt. Gen. Jonathan M. Wainwright,
commander of the North Luzon Corps, praised the 200th and
the 515th Coastal Artillery units.
"They were the first to fire and the last to lay down their
arms and only reluctantly doing so after being given a direct
order."
Many were among the survivors of the infamous Bataan Death March.
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| User: "Everybody Knows" |
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| Title: Re: NMexicans 1st to fight & last to lay down arms in defense of the USofA. |
16 Aug 2007 10:10:41 AM |
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"Doug" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Caught your fucking a$$ in a lie. The 158th infantry regiment was NEVER
called
Cuidado in WW2 and was NEVER involved in the Bataan death march.
Furthermore,
there is absolutely no proof it was a majority hispanic/latino regiment.
http://azvetmemorial.com/bushmasters.htm
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"American Patriot" <Kcajyer1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187217863.758689.237260@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
World War II The Pacific
· 158th Infantry "Cuidado"
· 200 Coast Anti-Artillery.Aircraft 515th Coast Anti-Artillery
Aircraft, New Mexico National Guard Units
The Bataan Death March, forced march of 70,000
American and Filipino prisoners of war captured by the
Japenese in the Pilippines WWII.
Starting out from Mariveles, on the sothern end of the
Bataan Peninsula, on April 9, 1942, they were force-marched
55 miles to San Fernando, then taken by rail to Capas, from
where they walked the final eight miles to Camp O'Donnell.
They were starved and mistreated, often kicked or beaten
on their way, and many who fell were bayonetted.
Only 54,000 reached the camp: 7,000 - 10,000 died on the
way and the rest escaped into the jungle.
N.M., in December 1945, Lt. Gen. Jonathan M. Wainwright,
commander of the North Luzon Corps, praised the 200th and
the 515th Coastal Artillery units.
"They were the first to fire and the last to lay down their
arms and only reluctantly doing so after being given a direct
order."
Many were among the survivors of the infamous Bataan Death March.
The 158th Infantry motto was Cuidado which means "Take Care."
WWII, Bicol Campaign, Luzon, Philippine Islands, 3-4 April 1945. Cries of
"Banzai" rang through the jungles - the staccato of enemy machine guns,
mortars and rifles broke through the jungle silence. The bayonet charges
were suicidal, but the 158th Regimental Combat Team, the "Bushmasters",
repulsed the enemy and advanced. It fought day after day, in critical
battles, to open the Visayan passages for allied shipping in the Pacific.
The merciless campaign lasted 2 months in terrain laced with tank traps,
wire, mines and bamboo thickets.
This proud Arizona National Guard unit, organized as the Arizona Volunteer
Infantry for the Indian campaigns in 1865, had its motto, "Cuidado" -- Take
Care. Mustering in the great southwest desert, the unit was mainly
"Mexican-American" and North American Indian from twenty tribes. Expanded in
Panama, it was one of World War II's few organizations to complete the trail
from "down under" to Japan.
http://www.army.mil/CMH/art/P-P/USAIA/Cuidado.htm
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| User: "American Patriot" |
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| Title: Re: NMexicans 1st to fight & last to lay down arms in defense of the USofA. |
15 Aug 2007 06:46:42 PM |
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On Aug 15, 4:31 pm, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
Caught your fucking a$$ in a lie.
Weakmind, It wasn't a lie (three separate units listed here,
two were in the Philippines
The 158th infantry regiment was NEVER
called
Cuidado in WW2
Oh yes it was.
and was NEVER involved in the Bataan death march.
Those were Three separate units, and for another time.
Wooow...so this is the 1st anything
in the zillion posts I post. Not bad for any writer, eh.
The intent of the post was to show that there were a
significant amount of "Hispanics" in the Philippines. They were
chosen because of their combat readiness and because they
spoke Spanish which was a language the Philipinos spoke.
Furthermore,
there is absolutely no proof it was a majority hispanic/latino regiment.
There's proof of a "significant" Spanish speakers, that is one reason
they
were picked.
http://azvetmemorial.com/bushmasters.htm
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"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187217863.758689.237260@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
World War II The Pacific
=B7 158th Infantry "Cuidado"
=B7 200 Coast Anti-Artillery.Aircraft 515th Coast Anti-Artillery
Aircraft, New Mexico National Guard Units
The Bataan Death March, forced march of 70,000
American and Filipino prisoners of war captured by the
Japenese in the Pilippines WWII.
Starting out from Mariveles, on the sothern end of the
Bataan Peninsula, on April 9, 1942, they were force-marched
55 miles to San Fernando, then taken by rail to Capas, from
where they walked the final eight miles to Camp O'Donnell.
They were starved and mistreated, often kicked or beaten
on their way, and many who fell were bayonetted.
Only 54,000 reached the camp: 7,000 - 10,000 died on the
way and the rest escaped into the jungle.
N.M., in December 1945, Lt. Gen. Jonathan M. Wainwright,
commander of the North Luzon Corps, praised the 200th and
the 515th Coastal Artillery units.
"They were the first to fire and the last to lay down their
arms and only reluctantly doing so after being given a direct
order."
Many were among the survivors of the infamous Bataan Death March.
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| User: "Doug" |
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| Title: Re: NMexicans 1st to fight & last to lay down arms in defense of the USofA. |
15 Aug 2007 08:26:51 PM |
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I already posted my proof latino propaganda boy. Let's see
yours. The 158th was called the Bushmasters in WW2
NOT Cuidado. Just to clue you in the 158th REGIMENT
is STILL called the Bushmasters NOT CUIDADO.
http://azvetmemorial.com/bushmasters.htm
futhermore:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMWuoX-rpCM
There were NOT three different 158th infantry regiments
in WW2. There are NEVER duplicate infantry regiments,
it's army policy FOOLIO. FYI, There are THREE battalions
to every infantry regiment.
However, it does look like one battalion (the 1st) of
the Bushmaster's regiment is called Cuidado.
PROVE to me that the 158th regiment was majority
latino/hispanic!
You can't prove anything because you're talking thru
your *****.
"American Patriot" <kcajyer_x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187221602.287626.295140@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 4:31 pm, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
Caught your fucking a$$ in a lie.
Weakmind, It wasn't a lie (three separate units listed here,
two were in the Philippines
The 158th infantry regiment was NEVER
called
Cuidado in WW2
Oh yes it was.
and was NEVER involved in the Bataan death march.
Those were Three separate units, and for another time.
Wooow...so this is the 1st anything
in the zillion posts I post. Not bad for any writer, eh.
The intent of the post was to show that there were a
significant amount of "Hispanics" in the Philippines. They were
chosen because of their combat readiness and because they
spoke Spanish which was a language the Philipinos spoke.
Furthermore,
there is absolutely no proof it was a majority hispanic/latino regiment.
There's proof of a "significant" Spanish speakers, that is one reason
they
were picked.
http://azvetmemorial.com/bushmasters.htm
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"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187217863.758689.237260@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
World War II The Pacific
· 158th Infantry "Cuidado"
· 200 Coast Anti-Artillery.Aircraft 515th Coast Anti-Artillery
Aircraft, New Mexico National Guard Units
The Bataan Death March, forced march of 70,000
American and Filipino prisoners of war captured by the
Japenese in the Pilippines WWII.
Starting out from Mariveles, on the sothern end of the
Bataan Peninsula, on April 9, 1942, they were force-marched
55 miles to San Fernando, then taken by rail to Capas, from
where they walked the final eight miles to Camp O'Donnell.
They were starved and mistreated, often kicked or beaten
on their way, and many who fell were bayonetted.
Only 54,000 reached the camp: 7,000 - 10,000 died on the
way and the rest escaped into the jungle.
N.M., in December 1945, Lt. Gen. Jonathan M. Wainwright,
commander of the North Luzon Corps, praised the 200th and
the 515th Coastal Artillery units.
"They were the first to fire and the last to lay down their
arms and only reluctantly doing so after being given a direct
order."
Many were among the survivors of the infamous Bataan Death March.
.
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| User: "American Patriot" |
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| Title: Re: NMexicans 1st to fight & last to lay down arms in defense of the USofA. |
15 Aug 2007 08:44:34 PM |
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On Aug 15, 6:26 pm, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I already posted my proof latino propaganda boy. Let's see
yours. The 158th was called the Bushmasters in WW2
NOT Cuidado. Just to clue you in the 158th REGIMENT
is STILL called the Bushmasters NOT CUIDADO.
http://azvetmemorial.com/bushmasters.htm
futhermore:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJMWuoX-rpCM
There were NOT three different 158th infantry regiments
in WW2. There are NEVER duplicate infantry regiments,
it's army policy FOOLIO. FYI, There are THREE battalions
to every infantry regiment.
Weak mind, keep trying though.
However, it does look like one battalion (the 1st) of
the Bushmaster's regiment is called Cuidado.
Oh, you were sceaming it wasn't a while back.
You are so weak minded. Let's see what else you'll
take back. Lol.
PROVE to me that the 158th regiment was majority
latino/hispanic!
Who are You that anything has to be proved?
You are one weak mind.
You can't prove anything because you're talking thru
your *****.
You've already conceded that the unit was
called 'CUIDADO", after a while you'l concede
more.
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187221602.287626.295140@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 4:31 pm, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
Caught your fucking a$$ in a lie.
Weakmind, It wasn't a lie (three separate units listed here,
two were in the Philippines
The 158th infantry regiment was NEVER
called
Cuidado in WW2
Oh yes it was.
and was NEVER involved in the Bataan death march.
Those were Three separate units, and for another time.
Wooow...so this is the 1st anything
in the zillion posts I post. Not bad for any writer, eh.
The intent of the post was to show that there were a
significant amount of "Hispanics" in the Philippines. They were
chosen because of their combat readiness and because they
spoke Spanish which was a language the Philipinos spoke.
Furthermore,
there is absolutely no proof it was a majority hispanic/latino regiment.
There's proof of a "significant" Spanish speakers, that is one reason
they
were picked.
http://azvetmemorial.com/bushmasters.htm
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"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187217863.758689.237260@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
World War II The Pacific
=B7 158th Infantry "Cuidado"
=B7 200 Coast Anti-Artillery.Aircraft 515th Coast Anti-Artillery
Aircraft, New Mexico National Guard Units
The Bataan Death March, forced march of 70,000
American and Filipino prisoners of war captured by the
Japenese in the Pilippines WWII.
Starting out from Mariveles, on the sothern end of the
Bataan Peninsula, on April 9, 1942, they were force-marched
55 miles to San Fernando, then taken by rail to Capas, from
where they walked the final eight miles to Camp O'Donnell.
They were starved and mistreated, often kicked or beaten
on their way, and many who fell were bayonetted.
Only 54,000 reached the camp: 7,000 - 10,000 died on the
way and the rest escaped into the jungle.
N.M., in December 1945, Lt. Gen. Jonathan M. Wainwright,
commander of the North Luzon Corps, praised the 200th and
the 515th Coastal Artillery units.
"They were the first to fire and the last to lay down their
arms and only reluctantly doing so after being given a direct
order."
Many were among the survivors of the infamous Bataan Death March.-=
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16 Aug 2007 12:30:14 AM |
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"American Patriot" <Kcajyer1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187228674.447678.241420@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 6:26 pm, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I already posted my proof latino propaganda boy. Let's see
yours. The 158th was called the Bushmasters in WW2
NOT Cuidado. Just to clue you in the 158th REGIMENT
is STILL called the Bushmasters NOT CUIDADO.
http://azvetmemorial.com/bushmasters.htm
futhermore:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMWuoX-rpCM
There were NOT three different 158th infantry regiments
in WW2. There are NEVER duplicate infantry regiments,
it's army policy FOOLIO. FYI, There are THREE battalions
to every infantry regiment.
Weak mind, keep trying though.
---------------
It's strange how you claim to have served in the military
(and law enforcement) yet you clearly don' t know the difference
between a battalion and a regiment.
However, it does look like one battalion (the 1st) of
the Bushmaster's regiment is called Cuidado.
Oh, you were sceaming it wasn't a while back.
You are so weak minded. Let's see what else you'll
take back. Lol.
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Like I said, you claim to have served in the military
yet you don't know the difference between a regiment
and a battalion?
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
PROVE to me that the 158th regiment was majority
latino/hispanic!
Who are You that anything has to be proved?
You are one weak mind.
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You really can't prove anything can you?
You can't prove anything because you're talking thru
your *****.
You've already conceded that the unit was
called 'CUIDADO", after a while you'l concede
more.
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The 1st battalion OF the 158th regiment might
be called Cuidado. The regiment itself is called
by its rightful title the Bushmasters.
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| User: "American Patriot" |
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| Title: Re: NMexicans 1st to fight & last to lay down arms in defense of the USofA. |
16 Aug 2007 02:47:14 PM |
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On Aug 15, 10:30 pm, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187228674.447678.241420@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 6:26 pm, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I already posted my proof latino propaganda boy. Let's see
yours. The 158th was called the Bushmasters in WW2
NOT Cuidado. Just to clue you in the 158th REGIMENT
is STILL called the Bushmasters NOT CUIDADO.
http://azvetmemorial.com/bushmasters.htm
futhermore:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMWuoX-rpCM
There were NOT three different 158th infantry regiments
in WW2. There are NEVER duplicate infantry regiments,
it's army policy FOOLIO. FYI, There are THREE battalions
to every infantry regiment.
Weak mind, keep trying though.
---------------
It's strange how you claim to have served in the military
(and law enforcement) yet you clearly don' t know the difference
between a battalion and a regiment.
However, it does look like one battalion (the 1st) of
the Bushmaster's regiment is called Cuidado.
Oh, you were sceaming it wasn't a while back.
You are so weak minded. Let's see what else you'll
take back. Lol.
------------------------
Like I said, you claim to have served in the military
yet you don't know the difference between a regiment
and a battalion?
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
PROVE to me that the 158th regiment was majority
latino/hispanic!
Who are You that anything has to be proved?
You are one weak mind.
-----------------------------
You really can't prove anything can you?
You can't prove anything because you're talking thru
your *****.
You've already conceded that the unit was
called 'CUIDADO", after a while you'l concede
more.
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The 1st battalion OF the 158th regiment might
be called Cuidado. The regiment itself is called
by its rightful title the Bushmasters.
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| User: "Doug" |
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17 Aug 2007 12:45:58 PM |
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"American Patriot" <Kcajyer1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie. But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
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| User: "American Patriot" |
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17 Aug 2007 12:59:58 PM |
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On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
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| User: "Doug" |
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| Title: Re: NMexicans 1st to fight & last to lay down arms in defense of the USofA. |
17 Aug 2007 01:20:08 PM |
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"American Patriot" <kcajyer_x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187373598.189622.100600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Unit, CO, MOS and billet please. Your "proof" is
laughable.
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| User: "American Patriot" |
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17 Aug 2007 01:29:35 PM |
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On Aug 17, 11:20 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187373598.189622.100600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Unit
I posted the "Unit".
, CO
I posted the "CO"
, MOS
Apparently you haven't been in the U.S. Military;
I also listed my "MOS".
and
billet
Enlisted, not an officer.
please. Your "proof" is
laughable.
I didn't provide "proof", dummy.
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17 Aug 2007 04:36:34 PM |
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"American Patriot" <kcajyer_x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187373598.189622.100600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Hmm Was that the Canadian forces? Because there is no US Army military
police Criminal Investigator. What company or bn were you in and where
Bob E
Retired
Military Police
1969 to 1995
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17 Aug 2007 05:05:53 PM |
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On Aug 17, 2:36 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187373598.189622.100600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Hmm Was that the Canadian forces?
Because there is no US Army military
police Criminal Investigator.
Looks like *You* weren't in the Army;
everyone was at least aware of CID. No
one liked seeing us coming, neither did the MPs.
What company or bn were you in and where
Bob E
Retired
Military Police
1969 to 1995
...and you aren't even aware of CID, eh.
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Sure I was but that's not what you said
"American Patriot" <kcajyer_x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 17, 2:36 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Hmm Was that the Canadian forces?
Because there is no US Army military
police Criminal Investigator.
Looks like *You* weren't in the Army;
everyone was at least aware of CID. No
one liked seeing us coming, neither did the MPs.
What company or bn were you in and where
Bob E
Retired
Military Police
1969 to 1995
..and you aren't even aware of CID, eh.
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17 Aug 2007 05:15:18 PM |
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On Aug 17, 2:36 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187373598.189622.100600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Hmm Was that the Canadian forces?
Because there is no US Army military
police Criminal Investigator.
Stupied, here is the history of CID, and MY "Unit".
http://www.cid.army.mil/history.htm
The U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command was organized as a major
command of the Army to provide investigative services to all levels of
the Army. Using modern investigative techniques, equipment and
systems, USACIDC concerns itself with every level of the Army
throughout the world in which criminal activity can or has occurred.
Unrestricted, CID searches out the full facts of a situation,
organizes the facts into a logical summary of investigative data, and
presents this data to the responsible command or a United States
attorney as appropriate. The responsible command or the U.S. attorney
then determines what action will be taken. Ultimately, the commander
of USACIDC answers only to the Chief of Staff of the Army and the
Secretary of the Army.
In 1775, the "regular" soldiers of the Continental Army received
extensive training based upon the Prussian manual of arms. This
training was designed to instill military discipline in the
"Continentals" who would then be augmented by volunteer and militia
units. The result would be a fighting unit which would instantly obey
commanders during the heat of battle. This training would also help
reinforce the maintenance of discipline within the ranks during
periods when combat was not imminent. Failure to maintain discipline
during bivouac and battle could destroy the Army and, with it, the new
nation.
The emphasis on enforcing discipline within the Army continued until
1863, when the emphasis shifted to enforcement of a new law passed
during the nation's Civil War.
As the Civil War dragged on and casualty lists proliferated, Congress
passed the Enrollment Act which was designed to provide conscripts for
the Union Army. It was the first draft law and was highly unpopular.
Because riots often erupted in protest of the new draft law, Secretary
of War Edwin Stanton felt that a police force was needed to enforce
the new and unpopular law. In March 1863, the Provost Marshal
General's Bureau was established to administer and enforce the draft
law and to arrest deserters.
During the war, investigations of criminal acts within the Army, such
as payroll thefts or murders, were conducted by private agencies such
as the Pinkerton Detective Agency. Ultimately, Major Alan Pinkerton
was commissioned by MG George McClellan to create the first criminal
investigation division.
After the Civil War, the Provost Marshal General's Bureau remained
largely unchanged until the American Expeditionary Forces entered
France during World War I in 1917. As the number of American soldiers
in France increased, so too did the need for additional police
services. In October 1917, the Military Police Corps was established;
from this corps, today's Military Police Corps evolved. Although this
new corps functioned well in its role as uniformed policemen during
World War I, crime rates mounted and a legitimate need for a detective
element became apparent.
In November 1918, Gen. John Pershing directed the Provost Marshal
General of his American Expeditionary Forces to organize a criminal
investigation division within the Military Police Corps for the
purpose of detecting and preventing crimes within the territory
occupied by the American Expeditionary Forces. The Criminal
Investigation Division (CID) was headed by a division chief who served
as the CID advisor to the Provost Marshal General on all matters
(administrative and technical) pertinent to criminal investigation.
Operational control of CID, however, remained with individual provost
marshals. There was no central control of investigative efforts within
CID and the individual investigators were hampered by a lack of
investigative training and experience. Investigators consisted of
personnel selected from military police units within each command.
Crimes committed by American soldiers and crimes committed by other
nationals against the Allies were reported through channels similar to
those of a civilian police force. CID personnel acted as detectives as
they investigated crimes or suspected crimes.
CID effectiveness, although hampered by some shortcomings, produced
favorable results in the recovery of stolen government and personal
property. However, the absence of central direction and control, and
the lack of investigative training and experience among personnel,
kept CID from achieving its full capability.
Between World Wars I and II, the Army was reduced to a small peacetime
organization where there was little need of a criminal investigative
element.
The American entry into World War II in December 1941 changed the Army
almost overnight from a small peacetime organization of professionals
into a force of millions. Because the Army was a community within
itself, and this community had grown so rapidly, there was again a
need for some type of law enforcement system.
In early 1942, investigations of crimes committed by military
personnel were considered to be a "command function" to be conducted
by local military police personnel. The delegation of criminal
investigations to a command function meant that each commander was
responsible for seeing that crime committed within the commander's
realm of responsibility was investigated. The Office of The Provost
Marshal General felt that the agents in the Investigations Department
were not trained for criminal investigations per se, nor did it
anticipate their being used in that capacity. The only investigations
being conducted at this time were "loyalty" investigations into the
backgrounds of persons hired for employment in defense related
industries.
As the Army expanded, so too did the crime rate. Criminal
investigations failed to keep abreast of the expanding crime rate.
Commanders did not have the personnel or the funds to conduct adequate
investigations. In December 1943, The Provost Marshal General was
charged with providing staff supervision over all criminal
investigations.
The Criminal Investigation Division of The Provost Marshal General's
Office was established in January 1944. The Provost Marshal General
rendered staff supervision over criminal investigation activities,
coordinated investigations between commands, dictated plans and
policies and set standards for investigators.
Following World War II, the CID was centralized at the theater Army
level. Control of criminal investigation personnel was decentralized
to area commands during the 1950s and then down to the installation
level during the early 1960s. While The Provost Marshal General still
had overall supervision of criminal investigation activities, the
operations were conducted at the local level.
A Department of Defense study in 1964 called "Project Security Shield"
made clear that complete centralization of the Army's criminal
investigative effort was needed in order to produce a more efficient
and responsive worldwide capability.
In 1965, the Army took the first step towards centralizing command and
control of CID elements. Elements were organized into CID groups
corresponding to the Army areas in the United States. The following
year, the concept was introduced to units in Europe and the Far East.
This group arrangement did not totally solve identified problems and
in September 1969, at the direction of the Army Chief of Staff, the
U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Agency was established under the
direction of The Provost Marshal General. The agency was to supervise
all CID operations and to provide guidance to CID elements around the
world.
However, the agency did not have command authority. It was only
chartered to provide direction to the criminal investigation effort.
In March 1971, Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird directed the
Secretary of the Army to form a CID command with command and control
authority over all Army-wide CID assets.
On September 17, 1971, the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command
was established as a major Army command. The CID Command was vested
with command and control of all Army criminal investigation activities
and resources worldwide. Granting major command status to the CID
facilitated CID communications with all levels of the military and
civilian governments while providing a centralized controlling
authority over the Army's investigative resources and activities. The
Commander of CID is directly responsible to the Chief of Staff of the
Army and the Secretary of the Army. The organization of the CID
command brought to an end the 50-year-old problem of how to administer
the CID.
CID has the authority to investigate felony crime affecting the Army
anytime, anyplace in the world.
During its history, CID has undergone considerable change, both in
organization and its approach to the problem of detecting and
preventing crime. Throughout the changes, however, run the threads of
common purpose and principle that link yesterday's years of success by
individual CID special agents investigating crime within the Army and
today's agents. As the Army's responsibilities have grown and changed,
CID has responded to every change by continuing to provide the timely,
second-to-none investigative service that has become its trademark.
Regardless of the type of crimes investigated by CID, be it counter-
narcotic, procurement fraud, property crimes or crimes of violence,
CID's performance has invariably been at or above the standards of its
nationwide law enforcement agency peers.
Today, the Criminal Investigation Command headquarters is located at
Fort Belvoir, Va. Its position in the Army organization and its
location at the seat of national government ensures the CID has a
positive direction and remains responsive to the Army's needs. It is
an organization that has successfully lived up to its motto:
"Do What Has To Be Done"
What company or bn were you in and where
Bob E
Retired
Military Police
1969 to 1995
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17 Aug 2007 06:31:59 PM |
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On Aug 17, 2:36 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187373598.189622.100600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Hmm Was that the Canadian forces? Because there is no US Army military
police Criminal Investigator. What company or bn were you in and where
Bob E
Retired
Military Police
1969 to 1995
Bobby, why do you lie about U.S. Military service which
apparently you were not part of? What do you gain
by such lies?
There are thousands upon thousands of good people
who have served with honor, and for you to lie and say
you were there is sneaky and wrong.
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17 Aug 2007 07:26:11 PM |
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"American Patriot" <kcajyer_x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187393519.512387.310920@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 2:36 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187373598.189622.100600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Hmm Was that the Canadian forces? Because there is no US Army military
police Criminal Investigator. What company or bn were you in and where
Bob E
Retired
Military Police
1969 to 1995
Bobby, why do you lie about U.S. Military service which
apparently you were not part of? What do you gain
by such lies?
There are thousands upon thousands of good people
who have served with honor, and for you to lie and say
you were there is sneaky and wrong.
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Oh Really?
I be more then happy to tell you when and where I was stationed.
Let's start a little here.
984th MP Co, Ft Carson Co
202th MP Co Camp Zama -Deactivated
62nd MP CO Okinawa, Japan- deactivated
140th MP Co, Ft. Gordon GA- Now called MP Co
527th MP Co, Weisbaden Germany (Now in Geissen or Iraq)
Like for me to continue?
Bob E
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17 Aug 2007 07:32:20 PM |
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On Aug 17, 5:26 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187393519.512387.310920@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 2:36 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187373598.189622.100600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Hmm Was that the Canadian forces? Because there is no US Army military
police Criminal Investigator. What company or bn were you in and where
Bob E
Retired
Military Police
1969 to 1995
Bobby, why do you lie about U.S. Military service which
apparently you were not part of? What do you gain
by such lies?
There are thousands upon thousands of good people
who have served with honor, and for you to lie and say
you were there is sneaky and wrong.
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Oh Really?
I be more then happy to tell you when and where I was stationed.
Let's start a little here.
984th MP Co, Ft Carson Co
202th MP Co Camp Zama -Deactivated
62nd MP CO Okinawa, Japan- deactivated
140th MP Co, Ft. Gordon GA- Now called MP Co
527th MP Co, Weisbaden Germany (Now in Geissen or Iraq)
Like for me to continue?
Once you posted no knowledge of CID
I knew you were a liar.
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17 Aug 2007 08:56:47 PM |
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"American Patriot" <kcajyer_x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187397140.802450.140350@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 5:26 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187393519.512387.310920@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 2:36 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187373598.189622.100600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who
happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Hmm Was that the Canadian forces? Because there is no US Army military
police Criminal Investigator. What company or bn were you in and
where
Bob E
Retired
Military Police
1969 to 1995
Bobby, why do you lie about U.S. Military service which
apparently you were not part of? What do you gain
by such lies?
There are thousands upon thousands of good people
who have served with honor, and for you to lie and say
you were there is sneaky and wrong.
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Oh Really?
I be more then happy to tell you when and where I was stationed.
Let's start a little here.
984th MP Co, Ft Carson Co
202th MP Co Camp Zama -Deactivated
62nd MP CO Okinawa, Japan- deactivated
140th MP Co, Ft. Gordon GA- Now called MP Co
527th MP Co, Weisbaden Germany (Now in Geissen or Iraq)
Like for me to continue?
Once you posted no knowledge of CID
I knew you were a liar.
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No you were asked which units you were in and you were very vague
on all of it.
But as I showed above I do know something and yes I was a MP
so I do know about CID I also know all about MPI, Now you were
either one of those, a MP or nothing. I at least showed you something
Bob E
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No you were asked which units you were in and you were very vague
on all of it.
But as I showed above I do know something and yes I was a MP
so I do know about CID I also know all about MPI, Now you were
either one of those, a MP or nothing. I at least showed you something
Bob E
The answer obviously, is he was nothing, zero, zilch, nada.
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17 Aug 2007 09:39:00 PM |
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On Aug 17, 6:56 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187397140.802450.140350@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 5:26 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187393519.512387.310920@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 2:36 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187373598.189622.100600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187293634.263137.204840@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans who
happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Hmm Was that the Canadian forces? Because there is no US Army military
police Criminal Investigator. What company or bn were you in and
where
Bob E
Retired
Military Police
1969 to 1995
Bobby, why do you lie about U.S. Military service which
apparently you were not part of? What do you gain
by such lies?
There are thousands upon thousands of good people
who have served with honor, and for you to lie and say
you were there is sneaky and wrong.
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Oh Really?
I be more then happy to tell you when and where I was stationed.
Let's start a little here.
984th MP Co, Ft Carson Co
202th MP Co Camp Zama -Deactivated
62nd MP CO Okinawa, Japan- deactivated
140th MP Co, Ft. Gordon GA- Now called MP Co
527th MP Co, Weisbaden Germany (Now in Geissen or Iraq)
Like for me to continue?
Once you posted no knowledge of CID
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No you were asked which units you were in and you were very vague
on all of it.
I stated I was assigned to CID.
But as I showed above I do know something
Not much of anything appears. You claim you've
been in the US Army and don't know CID, then
bud, you weren't there.
and yes I was a MP
You state you were an Army MP and
said there is "no such unit" or similar, as CID;
therefore bud, you weren't there.
so I do know about CID
You now "know about CID", *AFTER*
you were queried and a link to CID webpages
provided.
I also know all about MPI,
You lied about being in the Army, that's
low. Who cares if you know "all about MPI".
Now you were
either one of those,
a MP or nothing.
I already posted I was assigned to Army CID, what's
all this about, "a MP or nothing"?.
I at least showed you something
You "showed something" alright, you showed
just how dull you are. You're extremely dull or
just a plain liar.
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No I said there was no such thing as a criminal investigator
is what I said I didn't say anything about there not being CID
Which is Criminal Investigation Command
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Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
Let's see dimbulb, My posts are about Patriotic Americans =
who
happen
to be of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being =
"non
American".??
Care to explain that.
You never served in the US military, it's nothing but a =
delusion, a
lie.
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years
in the USA ARMY
- MP Gp (CI)
Criminal Investigator
But considering you post under an alias you could make up
any story you want.
"Alias" or not, enlisted, took a leave of absence
from a City P.D., was assigned to the Army CID.
Say and believe what you want though. Carry on.
Hmm Was that the Canadian forces? Because there is no US Army =
military
police Criminal Investigator. What company or bn were you in =
and
where
Bob E
Retired
Military Police
1969 to 1995
Bobby, why do you lie about U.S. Military service which
apparently you were not part of? What do you gain
by such lies?
There are thousands upon thousands of good people
who have served with honor, and for you to lie and say
you were there is sneaky and wrong.
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Oh Really?
I be more then happy to tell you when and where I was stationed.
Let's start a little here.
984th MP Co, Ft Carson Co
202th MP Co Camp Zama -Deactivated
62nd MP CO Okinawa, Japan- deactivated
140th MP Co, Ft. Gordon GA- Now called MP Co
527th MP Co, Weisbaden Germany (Now in Geissen or Iraq)
Like for me to continue?
Once you posted no knowledge of CID
I knew you were a liar.
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No you were asked which units you were in and you were very vague
on all of it.
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I stated I was assigned to CID.
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But as I showed above I do know something
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Not much of anything appears. You claim you've
been in the US Army and don't know CID, then
bud, you weren't there.
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and yes I was a MP
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You state you were an Army MP and
said there is "no such unit" or similar, as CID;
therefore bud, you weren't there.
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so I do know about CID
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You now "know about CID", *AFTER*
you were queried and a link to CID webpages
provided.
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I also know all about MPI,
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You lied about being in the Army, that's
low. Who cares if you know "all about MPI".
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Now you were
either one of those,
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a MP or nothing.
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I already posted I was assigned to Army CID, what's
all this about, "a MP or nothing"?.
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I at least showed you something
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You "showed something" alright, you showed
just how dull you are. You're extremely dull or
just a plain liar.
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No I said there was no such thing as a criminal investigator
is what I said I didn't say anything about there not being CID
Which is Criminal Investigation Command.
So don't turn my words around to what you think I said
and the same goes for you. See if you can find any of the units
I mentioned. Better yet go to www.62ndmpco.org\okinawa\atworkspicsa1.asp
and look in the pictures there and see if you can find me
Then tell me I am a liar and I was never a MP
Oh see if you can match a name up with my email address
Then turn around and show me the same proof.
Thank you
Bob E
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Mexicos? Or=20
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>> >> > happen<BR>>> >> >> >> =
> to be=20
of "Hispanic" heritage; then you accuse me of being "non<BR>>> =
>>=20
>> >> > American".??<BR>>> >> >> =
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You=20
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a<BR>>>=20
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>> >=20
You wish, but it's Not a lie, I served three years<BR>>> >> =
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P.D., was=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and look in the pictures there and see =
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"Bob Escher" <bescher@rsegroup.com> wrote in message
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No I said there was no such thing as a criminal investigator
is what I said I didn't say anything about there not being CID
Which is Criminal Investigation Command
"American Patriot" <Kcajyer1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 17, 5:26 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 17, 2:36 pm, "Bob Escher" <besc...@rsegroup.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <kcajye...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 17, 10:45 am, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Who's military did you serve in? Mexicos? Or Benezuelas?
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