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"Paul Abeles" |
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31 May 2004 12:55:12 PM |
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No action on Israeli WMDs |
Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism. While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here is an
immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't this
regarded as utterly unacceptable? Is the argument that Israel's nuclear
bombs are, in some way, kosher? Good bombs that help stabilise the Middle
East? Surely here's a significant issue of proliferation, yet the world
averts its gaze. And when anyone in the neighbourhood has nuclear plans, the
Israelis don't hesitate to mount pre-emptive strikes, wiping out, for
example, an Iraqi nuclear power plant in the early 1980s. To visit Israel is
be astonished by the tininess of the place and by its vulnerability. So one
can understand why many Israelis would want a nuclear umbrella to defend
themselves from their enemies past, present and potential. But it's not good
enough to complain about suicide bombers if, at the same time, you have 200
atomic bombs. Suicide bombers are not WMDs. They can kill a few dozen, along
with themselves.
But atomic bombs and, even worse, thermo-nuclear devices? It would be
suicidal for Israel to use them - to drop even one nuclear weapon in the
Middle East would be a catastrophe for the Jewish nation and the entire
world. And given that Israel enjoys the total support of the US, its
stockpile seems as redundant as it is provocative.
There are far too many nuclear weapons in the world. Despite all the talk of
nuclear disarmament in the post-Cold War era, the US and Russian stockpiles
are immense. If we are to continue making a huge fuss about proliferation,
then we should be concerned with nuclear bombs in the Middle East. Not the
hypothetical weapons of Saddam Hussein but the real weapons in the hands of
Ariel Sharon.
On the other hand, perhaps Vanunu was deluded. Perhaps the BBC has got it
wrong. For many years Israel has had a policy of nuclear ambiguity and would
neither confirm nor deny its possession of WMDs. Clearly it's time to bring
Hans Blix out of retirement and to retrieve Richard Butler from Government
House in Tasmania, to discover just how many bombs Israel has. And why it
has them.
Phillip Adams.
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31 May 2004 01:40:55 PM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted
Yeap.
Eat your heart out, abeles.
There ain't a zilch you or anyone else can do about it!
TK9
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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31 May 2004 03:05:30 PM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted
Yeap.
Eat your heart out, abeles.
There ain't a zilch you or anyone else can do about it!
THERE IS LOTS THAT CAN BE DONE, ALLRIGHT. 300 NUKES ARE MISSING FROM THE
UKRAINIAN SILOS AND NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THEY ARE!
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted
Yeap.
Eat your heart out, abeles.
There ain't a zilch you or anyone else can do about it!
THERE IS LOTS THAT CAN BE DONE, ALLRIGHT. 300 NUKES ARE MISSING FROM THE
UKRAINIAN SILOS AND NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THEY ARE!
They're pointed right at you.
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
31 May 2004 08:08:41 PM |
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Subject: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs
From: "TonyaK9"
Date: 5/31/2004 2:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <X_Kuc.16814$Tn6.635@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted
Yeap.
Eat your heart out, abeles.
There ain't a zilch you or anyone else can do about it!
TK9
Actually there is. The United Staes can stop funding the Isreal insanity.
Over 30 years of aggression has bankrupted the United States. Now we fight a
200 plub billion dollar war largely pushed by Israel dual citizens. Enough is
enough. Let Israel be Israel and get the hell out of hte middle east.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Jim E" |
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31 May 2004 01:58:51 PM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
You are correct. That is as it should be.
As one of the free and democratic nations of the world, they have this
right.
Nice to see that you are catching on.
Jim E
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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31 May 2004 03:04:18 PM |
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"Jim E" <fatboy-plonk-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
You are correct. That is as it should be.
As one of the free and democratic nations of the world,
"FREE DEMOCRATIC NATIONS" DO NOT NEED NUKES TO DOMINEER OTHERS!
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01 Jun 2004 02:40:33 AM |
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <fatboy-plonk-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
You are correct. That is as it should be.
As one of the free and democratic nations of the world,
"FREE DEMOCRATIC NATIONS" DO NOT NEED NUKES TO DOMINEER OTHERS!
Not needed, but it does make it so much easier, and very
cost effective.
Cheers Jim E
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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31 May 2004 03:55:00 PM |
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"Jim E" <fatboy-plonk-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
You are correct. That is as it should be.
As one of the free and democratic nations of the world, they have this
right.
And as a nation that has shown itself to be highly responsible with nuclear
weapons - theirs as well as their psychotic neighbors' - they have more than
earned the right to have them.
Susan
Nice to see that you are catching on.
Jim E
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31 May 2004 07:20:02 PM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <fatboy-plonk-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
You are correct. That is as it should be.
As one of the free and democratic nations of the world, they have this
right.
And as a nation that has shown itself to be highly responsible with
nuclear
weapons - theirs as well as their psychotic neighbors' - they have more
than
earned the right to have them.
How did they "earn" that right? By proving that Israel can murder thousands
without the need of nukes?
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| User: "Theodore Herzl" |
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04 Jun 2004 07:09:32 PM |
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"Conquistador" <pinkspider123@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<SYPuc.6128$Yd3.1347@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <fatboy-plonk-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
You are correct. That is as it should be.
As one of the free and democratic nations of the world, they have this
right.
And as a nation that has shown itself to be highly responsible with
nuclear
weapons - theirs as well as their psychotic neighbors' - they have more
than
earned the right to have them.
How did they "earn" that right? By proving that Israel can murder thousands
without the need of nukes?
Don't worry, Israel is not the only country in the region with nuclear
weapons or the ability to deliver them. Very soon, even more
countries will announce they are also in possesion of nukes and able
to defend themselves against Zionist terrorism.
Only then will the US recognize their mistake in allowing such an
unstable and immoral people such as the Israeli's to keep such
weapons.
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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31 May 2004 08:10:20 PM |
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Subject: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs
From: "Susan Cohen"
Date: 5/31/2004 4:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <EYMuc.20197$g15.12189@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
"Jim E" <fatboy-plonk-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
news:4kKuc.20666$L.6301@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
You are correct. That is as it should be.
As one of the free and democratic nations of the world, they have this
right.
And as a nation that has shown itself to be highly responsible with nuclear
weapons - theirs as well as their psychotic neighbors' - they have more than
earned the right to have them.
Susan
*****. HOw many nations has Israel invaded. I guess when they eventually
get their tits caught and drop a nuclear bomb then you will expent the United
States to pay for the repairs.
Nice to see that you are catching on.
Jim E
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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31 May 2004 09:05:20 PM |
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"Jim E" <fatboy-plonk-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
You are correct. That is as it should be.
As one of the free and democratic nations of the world, they have this
right.
If only Israel was a democracy!!
Half the population is still waiting for a vote dicklips!
-TheMan-
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31 May 2004 11:34:27 PM |
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TheMan wrote:
"Jim E" <fatboy-plonk-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
news:4kKuc.20666$L.6301@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
You are correct. That is as it should be.
As one of the free and democratic nations of the world, they have this
right.
If only Israel was a democracy!!
Half the population is still waiting for a vote dicklips!
-TheMan-
Man can reasonbly estimate the distance from here to Alpha Centuri, yet
none among us is able to estimate the absolute depth of your depravity.
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31 May 2004 04:36:25 PM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism. While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here is
an
immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't this
regarded as utterly unacceptable?
Because the world knows that Israel is no threat, despite what some
snivveling anti-Semite would say.
The bigger danger is if some Arab terrorist country got hold of a nuke, they
would use it in the blink of an eye.
Nukes + Israel = Israel continues to live.
Nukes + Arab country = the end of the world.
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31 May 2004 07:23:44 PM |
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"Ed" <No_Spam@do_not_spam_me.net> wrote in message
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here
is
an
immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't
this
regarded as utterly unacceptable?
Because the world knows that Israel is no threat, despite what some
snivveling anti-Semite would say.
The bigger danger is if some Arab terrorist country got hold of a nuke,
they
would use it in the blink of an eye.
How do you know that Arabs do not have them? Didn't Col. Ghaddafi just give
up tons of fusible material including strontium 235? How do you know that
other Arab countries do not have them?
Nukes + Israel = Israel continues to live.
Israel will not survive using nukes but Arabs will. Arabia is pretty big
piece of real estate!
Nukes + Arab country = the end of the world.
Lybia has proved you wrong!
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05 Jun 2004 08:39:52 AM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here
is an immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't
this regarded as utterly unacceptable?
Because the world knows that Israel is no threat, despite what some
snivveling anti-Semite would say.
The bigger danger is if some Arab terrorist country got hold of a nuke,
they> would use it in the blink of an eye.
How do you know that Arabs do not have them? Didn't Col. Ghaddafi just give
up tons of fusible material including strontium 235? How do you know that
other Arab countries do not have them?<
Indeed they well may. Which is why Israel began its own ABM system
back in the
1980s, and then convinced the US to fund it in order to get around the
US-Soviet ABM treaty of 1972. By 80% funding an Israeli theater ABM
design,
for relatively little money the US got access to Israeli knowhow, and
a
veto on Israel's ability to sell the Arrow to third parties, while at
the
same time able to get around some of restrictions of the 1972
US-Soviet ABM treaty. Now the Arrow II is produced by I believe
Boeing, if I'm not mistaken.
Also there is joint development of the Tactical High Energy Laser
(THEL)
gun to destroy katyushas, cruise missiles, etc., going on.
Nukes + Israel = Israel continues to live.
Israel will not survive using nukes but Arabs will. Arabia is pretty big
piece of real estate!<<
But most of the population is in cities not spread in the desert
anymore.
However, there are oilfields in the desert. At any rate, any country
in the
Middle East that launches missiles against ISrael will be destroyed
within
minutes because Israel's retaliatory system is fully automated and
will
automatically launch missiles retracing the trajectory of the incoming
missile before it hits. It's always "on" and can only be turned off by
two
keys, which is the opposite of the way most missile launch systems
work. It
was designed to go off on relatively short notice as Israel would only
have
4 minutes at most to decide. So the decision is already made and
burned
into the firmware, except for the precise target parameters, which
would
be acquired "on the fly" from satellites and the Green Pine
over-the-horizon
radar system. Meanwhile, the Arrow system is automatically activated
and
it it fails to destroy incoming, the Jericho II missiles are launched
before
they are hit. Fifty Jericho IIs would be launched with 30 H-bombs and
all
Arab capitals would cease to exist within 4-10 minutes, and the
Persian
Gulf oil fields would be destroyed and dangerously irradiated for a
long time.
So the question is, as Dirty Harry would put it, "Are the Arabs
feeling lucky?"
Nukes + Arab country = the end of the world.
Lybia has proved you wrong!<
Lybia had no delivery system, and anyhow, what was it gaining from its
puny
a bomb system? Alienating Egypt? An a-bomb race in the Middle East
between
all the Arab countries would put them at even greater risk from each
other
than from ISrael.
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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31 May 2004 02:51:52 PM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism. While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here is
an
immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't this
regarded as utterly unacceptable? Is the argument that Israel's nuclear
bombs are, in some way, kosher? Good bombs that help stabilise the Middle
East? Surely here's a significant issue of proliferation, yet the world
averts its gaze. And when anyone in the neighbourhood has nuclear plans,
the
Israelis don't hesitate to mount pre-emptive strikes, wiping out, for
example, an Iraqi nuclear power plant in the early 1980s. To visit Israel
is
be astonished by the tininess of the place and by its vulnerability. So
one
can understand why many Israelis would want a nuclear umbrella to defend
themselves from their enemies past, present and potential. But it's not
good
enough to complain about suicide bombers if, at the same time, you have
200
atomic bombs. Suicide bombers are not WMDs. They can kill a few dozen,
along
with themselves.
But atomic bombs and, even worse, thermo-nuclear devices? It would be
suicidal for Israel to use them - to drop even one nuclear weapon in the
Middle East would be a catastrophe for the Jewish nation and the entire
world. And given that Israel enjoys the total support of the US, its
stockpile seems as redundant as it is provocative.
There are far too many nuclear weapons in the world. Despite all the talk
of
nuclear disarmament in the post-Cold War era, the US and Russian
stockpiles
are immense. If we are to continue making a huge fuss about proliferation,
then we should be concerned with nuclear bombs in the Middle East. Not the
hypothetical weapons of Saddam Hussein but the real weapons in the hands
of
Ariel Sharon.
On the other hand, perhaps Vanunu was deluded. Perhaps the BBC has got it
wrong. For many years Israel has had a policy of nuclear ambiguity and
would
neither confirm nor deny its possession of WMDs. Clearly it's time to
bring
Hans Blix out of retirement and to retrieve Richard Butler from Government
House in Tasmania, to discover just how many bombs Israel has. And why it
has them.
Phillip Adams.
Israelis are above the law. They also have about 12,000 Palestinians in the
concetration camps in Negev desert, existing under inhuman conditions, Some
have been there for a decade or more, and the world does not do a thing!
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31 May 2004 02:03:25 PM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism. While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here is
an
immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't this
regarded as utterly unacceptable? Is the argument that Israel's nuclear
bombs are, in some way, kosher? Good bombs that help stabilise the Middle
East? Surely here's a significant issue of proliferation, yet the world
averts its gaze. And when anyone in the neighbourhood has nuclear plans,
the
Israelis don't hesitate to mount pre-emptive strikes, wiping out, for
example, an Iraqi nuclear power plant in the early 1980s. To visit Israel
is
be astonished by the tininess of the place and by its vulnerability. So
one
can understand why many Israelis would want a nuclear umbrella to defend
themselves from their enemies past, present and potential. But it's not
good
enough to complain about suicide bombers if, at the same time, you have
200
atomic bombs. Suicide bombers are not WMDs. They can kill a few dozen,
along
with themselves.
But atomic bombs and, even worse, thermo-nuclear devices? It would be
suicidal for Israel to use them - to drop even one nuclear weapon in the
Middle East would be a catastrophe for the Jewish nation and the entire
world. And given that Israel enjoys the total support of the US, its
stockpile seems as redundant as it is provocative.
There are far too many nuclear weapons in the world. Despite all the talk
of
nuclear disarmament in the post-Cold War era, the US and Russian
stockpiles
are immense. If we are to continue making a huge fuss about proliferation,
then we should be concerned with nuclear bombs in the Middle East. Not the
hypothetical weapons of Saddam Hussein but the real weapons in the hands
of
Ariel Sharon.
On the other hand, perhaps Vanunu was deluded. Perhaps the BBC has got it
wrong. For many years Israel has had a policy of nuclear ambiguity and
would
neither confirm nor deny its possession of WMDs. Clearly it's time to
bring
Hans Blix out of retirement and to retrieve Richard Butler from Government
House in Tasmania, to discover just how many bombs Israel has. And why it
has them.
How many Nuclear bombs does Israel have? Probably not near enough. Israel
needs to have enough nuclear bombs to destroy all life in the Islamic
nations of the world and they need to let those nations know that they have
that capability.
Why does Israel have WMD? Because they are vastly out numbered and
surrounded by a people that have an insane evil religion that teaches the
obliteration of all Jews. There are only a few nations in the world that
can be trusted to have WMD. Israel is one of those few nations. Israel must
have WMD for their very survival.
--
We must never forget that on Sept.12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at
half-staff and the Palestinians were dancing in the streets.
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
31 May 2004 03:03:16 PM |
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"James" <jmedors@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:NdLuc.23165$3X4.12648@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
news:4kKuc.20666$L.6301@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here
is
an
immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't
this
regarded as utterly unacceptable? Is the argument that Israel's nuclear
bombs are, in some way, kosher? Good bombs that help stabilise the
Middle
East? Surely here's a significant issue of proliferation, yet the world
averts its gaze. And when anyone in the neighbourhood has nuclear plans,
the
Israelis don't hesitate to mount pre-emptive strikes, wiping out, for
example, an Iraqi nuclear power plant in the early 1980s. To visit
Israel
is
be astonished by the tininess of the place and by its vulnerability. So
one
can understand why many Israelis would want a nuclear umbrella to defend
themselves from their enemies past, present and potential. But it's not
good
enough to complain about suicide bombers if, at the same time, you have
200
atomic bombs. Suicide bombers are not WMDs. They can kill a few dozen,
along
with themselves.
But atomic bombs and, even worse, thermo-nuclear devices? It would be
suicidal for Israel to use them - to drop even one nuclear weapon in the
Middle East would be a catastrophe for the Jewish nation and the entire
world. And given that Israel enjoys the total support of the US, its
stockpile seems as redundant as it is provocative.
There are far too many nuclear weapons in the world. Despite all the
talk
of
nuclear disarmament in the post-Cold War era, the US and Russian
stockpiles
are immense. If we are to continue making a huge fuss about
proliferation,
then we should be concerned with nuclear bombs in the Middle East. Not
the
hypothetical weapons of Saddam Hussein but the real weapons in the hands
of
Ariel Sharon.
On the other hand, perhaps Vanunu was deluded. Perhaps the BBC has got
it
wrong. For many years Israel has had a policy of nuclear ambiguity and
would
neither confirm nor deny its possession of WMDs. Clearly it's time to
bring
Hans Blix out of retirement and to retrieve Richard Butler from
Government
House in Tasmania, to discover just how many bombs Israel has. And why
it
has them.
How many Nuclear bombs does Israel have? Probably not near enough.
Israel
needs to have enough nuclear bombs to destroy all life in the Islamic
nations of the world and they need to let those nations know that they
have
that capability.
yOU GOT THE RIGHT IDEA, THAT IS THE ONLY SURE WAY TO DESTROY ISRAEL FOREVER!
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| User: "Jim E" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
01 Jun 2004 03:58:25 AM |
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider
yOU GOT THE RIGHT IDEA, THAT IS THE ONLY SURE WAY TO DESTROY ISRAEL
FOREVER!
Using the shift key when in caps lock is redundant, and results
in the appearance of stupidity.
Do you ever look at what you type before you launch it
forth into the ether?
Jim E
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
01 Jun 2004 06:36:47 AM |
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Jim E wrote:
"amigocabal" <pinkspider
yOU GOT THE RIGHT IDEA, THAT IS THE ONLY SURE WAY TO DESTROY ISRAEL
FOREVER!
Using the shift key when in caps lock is redundant, and results
in the appearance of stupidity.
Do you ever look at what you type before you launch it
forth into the ether?
Jim E
That would be the cyberspeak equivalent to thinking before speaking,
another concept foreign to Alex, not necessarily for lack of will but
rather lack of ability.
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| User: "a poor misguided soul" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
31 May 2004 06:08:57 PM |
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James wrote:
"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
news:4kKuc.20666$L.6301@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism. While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here is
an
immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't this
regarded as utterly unacceptable? Is the argument that Israel's nuclear
bombs are, in some way, kosher? Good bombs that help stabilise the Middle
East? Surely here's a significant issue of proliferation, yet the world
averts its gaze. And when anyone in the neighbourhood has nuclear plans,
the
Israelis don't hesitate to mount pre-emptive strikes, wiping out, for
example, an Iraqi nuclear power plant in the early 1980s. To visit Israel
is
be astonished by the tininess of the place and by its vulnerability. So
one
can understand why many Israelis would want a nuclear umbrella to defend
themselves from their enemies past, present and potential. But it's not
good
enough to complain about suicide bombers if, at the same time, you have
200
atomic bombs. Suicide bombers are not WMDs. They can kill a few dozen,
along
with themselves.
But atomic bombs and, even worse, thermo-nuclear devices? It would be
suicidal for Israel to use them - to drop even one nuclear weapon in the
Middle East would be a catastrophe for the Jewish nation and the entire
world. And given that Israel enjoys the total support of the US, its
stockpile seems as redundant as it is provocative.
There are far too many nuclear weapons in the world. Despite all the talk
of
nuclear disarmament in the post-Cold War era, the US and Russian
stockpiles
are immense. If we are to continue making a huge fuss about proliferation,
then we should be concerned with nuclear bombs in the Middle East. Not the
hypothetical weapons of Saddam Hussein but the real weapons in the hands
of
Ariel Sharon.
On the other hand, perhaps Vanunu was deluded. Perhaps the BBC has got it
wrong. For many years Israel has had a policy of nuclear ambiguity and
would
neither confirm nor deny its possession of WMDs. Clearly it's time to
bring
Hans Blix out of retirement and to retrieve Richard Butler from Government
House in Tasmania, to discover just how many bombs Israel has. And why it
has them.
How many Nuclear bombs does Israel have? Probably not near enough. Israel
needs to have enough nuclear bombs to destroy all life in the Islamic
nations of the world and they need to let those nations know that they have
that capability.
Why does Israel have WMD? Because they are vastly out numbered and
surrounded by a people that have an insane evil religion that teaches the
obliteration of all Jews. There are only a few nations in the world that
can be trusted to have WMD. Israel is one of those few nations. Israel must
have WMD for their very survival.
Israel isn't portrayed as being run by a mad man either. It is said
that Saddam has already proved that he would use WMD's, Isreal never has.
--
You laugh because I'm different, I laugh because you're all the same.
Click here <http://patism66.blogspot.com>
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| User: "Conquistador" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
31 May 2004 07:27:20 PM |
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"a poor misguided soul" <miscconcepts@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:40BBBAFB.2000204@netscape.net...
James wrote:
"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
news:4kKuc.20666$L.6301@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here
is
an
immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't
this
regarded as utterly unacceptable? Is the argument that Israel's nuclear
bombs are, in some way, kosher? Good bombs that help stabilise the
Middle
East? Surely here's a significant issue of proliferation, yet the world
averts its gaze. And when anyone in the neighbourhood has nuclear plans,
the
Israelis don't hesitate to mount pre-emptive strikes, wiping out, for
example, an Iraqi nuclear power plant in the early 1980s. To visit
Israel
is
be astonished by the tininess of the place and by its vulnerability. So
one
can understand why many Israelis would want a nuclear umbrella to defend
themselves from their enemies past, present and potential. But it's not
good
enough to complain about suicide bombers if, at the same time, you have
200
atomic bombs. Suicide bombers are not WMDs. They can kill a few dozen,
along
with themselves.
But atomic bombs and, even worse, thermo-nuclear devices? It would be
suicidal for Israel to use them - to drop even one nuclear weapon in the
Middle East would be a catastrophe for the Jewish nation and the entire
world. And given that Israel enjoys the total support of the US, its
stockpile seems as redundant as it is provocative.
There are far too many nuclear weapons in the world. Despite all the
talk
of
nuclear disarmament in the post-Cold War era, the US and Russian
stockpiles
are immense. If we are to continue making a huge fuss about
proliferation,
then we should be concerned with nuclear bombs in the Middle East. Not
the
hypothetical weapons of Saddam Hussein but the real weapons in the hands
of
Ariel Sharon.
On the other hand, perhaps Vanunu was deluded. Perhaps the BBC has got
it
wrong. For many years Israel has had a policy of nuclear ambiguity and
would
neither confirm nor deny its possession of WMDs. Clearly it's time to
bring
Hans Blix out of retirement and to retrieve Richard Butler from
Government
House in Tasmania, to discover just how many bombs Israel has. And why
it
has them.
How many Nuclear bombs does Israel have? Probably not near enough.
Israel
needs to have enough nuclear bombs to destroy all life in the Islamic
nations of the world and they need to let those nations know that they
have
that capability.
Why does Israel have WMD? Because they are vastly out numbered and
surrounded by a people that have an insane evil religion that teaches the
obliteration of all Jews. There are only a few nations in the world that
can be trusted to have WMD. Israel is one of those few nations. Israel
must
have WMD for their very survival.
Israel isn't portrayed as being run by a mad man either. It is said
that Saddam has already proved that he would use WMD's, Isreal never has.
Saddam has used the WMD's that were supplied to him by USA, and because US
approved their use!
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| User: "Jim E" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
01 Jun 2004 04:02:01 AM |
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"Conquistador" <pinkspider123@ea
Saddam has used the WMD's that were supplied to him by USA, and because US
approved their use!
Today's challenge for the kid always sucking up to the ragheads.
Prove any of your above statement.Punk.
Jim E
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| User: "Norma" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
31 May 2004 04:39:17 PM |
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"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
news:4kKuc.20666$L.6301@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism. While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here is
an
immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't this
regarded as utterly unacceptable? Is the argument that Israel's nuclear
bombs are, in some way, kosher? Good bombs that help stabilise the Middle
East? Surely here's a significant issue of proliferation, yet the world
averts its gaze. And when anyone in the neighbourhood has nuclear plans,
the
Israelis don't hesitate to mount pre-emptive strikes, wiping out, for
example, an Iraqi nuclear power plant in the early 1980s. To visit Israel
is
be astonished by the tininess of the place and by its vulnerability. So
one
can understand why many Israelis would want a nuclear umbrella to defend
themselves from their enemies past, present and potential. But it's not
good
enough to complain about suicide bombers if, at the same time, you have
200
atomic bombs. Suicide bombers are not WMDs. They can kill a few dozen,
along
with themselves.
But atomic bombs and, even worse, thermo-nuclear devices? It would be
suicidal for Israel to use them - to drop even one nuclear weapon in the
Middle East would be a catastrophe for the Jewish nation and the entire
world. And given that Israel enjoys the total support of the US, its
stockpile seems as redundant as it is provocative.
There are far too many nuclear weapons in the world. Despite all the talk
of
nuclear disarmament in the post-Cold War era, the US and Russian
stockpiles
are immense. If we are to continue making a huge fuss about proliferation,
then we should be concerned with nuclear bombs in the Middle East. Not the
hypothetical weapons of Saddam Hussein but the real weapons in the hands
of
Ariel Sharon.
On the other hand, perhaps Vanunu was deluded. Perhaps the BBC has got it
wrong. For many years Israel has had a policy of nuclear ambiguity and
would
neither confirm nor deny its possession of WMDs. Clearly it's time to
bring
Hans Blix out of retirement and to retrieve Richard Butler from Government
House in Tasmania, to discover just how many bombs Israel has. And why it
has them.
I don't know the authoer, but who has been threatened or even hassled
outright? If the Isrealis were going to use those weapons it would be
obvious as to where it would be, and that isn't an option.
Why don't all countries give up all weapons and see what happens.
Sometimes, Paul, you surprise us all over again. Norma
Phillip Adams.
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| User: "TonyaK9" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
31 May 2004 04:42:20 PM |
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"Norma" <norma2339@charter.net> wrote in message
news:10bn9fi1q1hskef@corp.supernews.com...
"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
news:4kKuc.20666$L.6301@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism.
While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here
is
an
immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't
this
regarded as utterly unacceptable? Is the argument that Israel's nuclear
bombs are, in some way, kosher? Good bombs that help stabilise the
Middle
East? Surely here's a significant issue of proliferation, yet the world
averts its gaze. And when anyone in the neighbourhood has nuclear plans,
the
Israelis don't hesitate to mount pre-emptive strikes, wiping out, for
example, an Iraqi nuclear power plant in the early 1980s. To visit
Israel
is
be astonished by the tininess of the place and by its vulnerability. So
one
can understand why many Israelis would want a nuclear umbrella to defend
themselves from their enemies past, present and potential. But it's not
good
enough to complain about suicide bombers if, at the same time, you have
200
atomic bombs. Suicide bombers are not WMDs. They can kill a few dozen,
along
with themselves.
But atomic bombs and, even worse, thermo-nuclear devices? It would be
suicidal for Israel to use them - to drop even one nuclear weapon in the
Middle East would be a catastrophe for the Jewish nation and the entire
world. And given that Israel enjoys the total support of the US, its
stockpile seems as redundant as it is provocative.
There are far too many nuclear weapons in the world. Despite all the
talk
of
nuclear disarmament in the post-Cold War era, the US and Russian
stockpiles
are immense. If we are to continue making a huge fuss about
proliferation,
then we should be concerned with nuclear bombs in the Middle East. Not
the
hypothetical weapons of Saddam Hussein but the real weapons in the hands
of
Ariel Sharon.
On the other hand, perhaps Vanunu was deluded. Perhaps the BBC has got
it
wrong. For many years Israel has had a policy of nuclear ambiguity and
would
neither confirm nor deny its possession of WMDs. Clearly it's time to
bring
Hans Blix out of retirement and to retrieve Richard Butler from
Government
House in Tasmania, to discover just how many bombs Israel has. And why
it
has them.
I don't know the authoer, but who has been threatened or even hassled
outright? If the Isrealis were going to use those weapons it would be
obvious as to where it would be, and that isn't an option.
Why don't all countries give up all weapons and see what happens.
Sometimes, Paul, you surprise us all over again. Norma
Not "us all", Norma.
Only you... for obvious reason ...
TK9
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| User: "ferret" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
31 May 2004 07:55:58 PM |
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If your a democracy Nukes are used for Peaceful, Defence purposes
If your a dictator Nukes are used for Mass Destruction puposes
There are so many countries with so many Nukes, but these are totally
safe because they are a democracy !
So if you were a dictator where would you go to buy WMD's, go to the
UK for chemicals and go to the US for Nukes.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
01 Jun 2004 06:31:12 AM |
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"ferret" <nobody@localhost.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2i22guFh66brU1@uni-berlin.de...
So if you were a dictator where would you go to buy WMD's, go to the
UK for chemicals and go to the US for Nukes.
S.H. got his from the French, IIRC.
Susan
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| User: "TonyaK9" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
31 May 2004 08:44:04 PM |
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"ferret" <nobody@localhost.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2i22guFh66brU1@uni-berlin.de...
If your a democracy Nukes are used for Peaceful, Defence purposes
If your a dictator Nukes are used for Mass Destruction puposes
There are so many countries with so many Nukes, but these are totally
safe because they are a democracy !
So if you were a dictator where would you go to buy WMD's, go to the
UK for chemicals and go to the US for Nukes.
That's not where the rogues have gone for their nukes: they went straight to
THE ONLY MUSLIM COUNTRY with the nuclear technology - Pakistan!!!
That is why such weapons must NEVER to be allowed into the countries ruled
by the bloody cult of Islam.
TK9
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| User: "Paul Abeles" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
31 May 2004 09:47:56 PM |
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Interesting response. I need not reply to you all.
Just to add, that I have no problems with Israel having WMD's.
I mostly have a problem with Bush's double standards.
In fact I think Australia should have stuck to its own Nuclear program,
which it abandoned in the 1960's.
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| User: "Thomas Anantharaman" |
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| Title: Re: No action on Israeli WMDs |
31 May 2004 02:12:13 PM |
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Paul Abeles wrote:
Israel's WMDs seem to be accepted, unreported and beyond criticism. While
media attention remains focused on George W. Bush's axis of evil, here is an
immense armoury, capable of obliterating the entire region. Why isn't this
regarded as utterly unacceptable? Is the argument that Israel's nuclear
bombs are, in some way, kosher?
Unlike most countries, Israel has not signed the Nuclear
non-proliferation treaty. Like India, it is perfectly legal for Israel
to develop Nuclear weapons. The only penalty for not signing the
non-proliferation treaty is that no other nation may provide Israel any
aid in developing its Nuclear technology (Isreal has no need for such aid).
The only thing non-Kosher here is US behaviour : US Congress has passed
a law limiting aid to countries that violate or refuse to sign the
Nuclear non-proliferation treaty. While USA is happy to enforce this law
against India, they look the other way when it comes to Israel : of
course Israel is happy to cooperate by not officially acknowledging it
has nuclear weapons.
Note that countries like India would happily sign on to the Nuclear
non-proliferation treaty as Nuclear powers, but they are not allowed to
do so by the "official" nuclear powers. Given this state of affairs,
Israel is harming noone by not admitting to its nuclear weapons since it
is already doing all it can to encourage non-proliferation of Nuclear
weapons.
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