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No, Canada SUCKS! |
http://frum.nationalreview.com/archives/04032003.asp
Shame
Here’s an appalling story from Wednesday’s Globe & Mail:
Canadians hurl abuse at U.S. hockey peewees
By INGRID PERITZ
Wednesday, April 2, 2003 - Page A1
MONTREAL -- A peewee hockey tournament in Montreal became a trip
into hostile territory for a busload of Americans who say they
encountered such fierce anti-Americanism that they will think
twice before returning.
During a four-day visit, boys travelling with their Massachusetts
hockey team witnessed the burning of the Stars and Stripes and
the booing of the U.S. national anthem. When travelling in their
bus emblazoned with a red-white-and-blue "Coach USA" logo, they
saw people on the street who extended their middle fingers or
made other angry gestures.
On the ice, the Canadian players told their visiting counterparts
that "the U.S. sucks" and dispensed other anti-American insults,
the Americans said.
"It was a shock to go to a tournament and have kids saying this
to us. These are our friends that are doing this," Brockton
Boxers coach Ernest Nadeau said.
"We didn't expect Canadian players -- especially young boys --
would take things to that extreme," he said in an interview.
The 11- and 12-year-old boys from Brockton, 30 kilometres south
of Boston, had been looking forward to the hockey tournament in
Montreal. But parents who accompanied them said they were
unprepared for the depth of anti-American sentiment over the
U.S.-led war against Iraq.
One parent, Bill Carpenter, was so upset he cancelled his
family's vacation to Quebec this summer.
"We were very offended by the whole thing," said Mr. Carpenter,
who accompanied two sons on the trip.
"I understand the opposition to the war. But we were made to feel
unwelcome just about anywhere we went.
"Montreal is a 5½-hour drive for us. It's not like we were
travelling to Syria or France or Germany," he said. "As
Americans, we felt in the past that Canada was our closest ally
and friend. No one told us we were heading into unfriendly
territory."
The trip soured soon after the Americans rolled into Montreal on
March 20.
Their bus entered downtown Montreal just as hundreds of college
and university students were marching through the streets in an
antiwar demonstration. Police cruisers spotted the U.S. bus and
escorted it to its hotel on Sherbrooke Street as a safety
precaution. A police officer urged the visitors to remain in the
bus until the protest passed.
The children watched as several demonstrators made obscene
gestures toward the bus. A U.S. flag was dragged through the
street.
"We felt horrible," Mr. Nadeau said. "How would you feel if the
Canadian flag was dragged down the streets in the U.S.A.? This is
a country that's supposed to be our ally."
That night, about a dozen families went to the Montreal
Canadiens-New York Islanders game at the Montreal Bell Centre, a
much-anticipated visit planned months in advance. In a gesture
later condemned, the U.S. national anthem was widely booed by the
crowd, leaving the visiting American children perplexed.
"The kids were just questioning, 'Why are they doing this?' "
said David Cruise, who was there with his 12-year-old son. "It's
hard for them to realize we weren't in America any more; we were
in a different country.
"I said, 'They're booing our national anthem because they don't
like us.' "
Mr. Cruise felt so uncomfortable that he left with his son after
the first period. "Whether you're for or against the war, we have
guys over there dying," Mr. Cruise said. "The next time, we'll
stay in the States. I'm not going back there again."
The visitors say anti-American comments continued when the young
players faced off against the Beverly Bandits, a team from
Beverly, Ont. U.S. players say the Canadians hurled insults
during face-offs and at other times.
"They told us we sucked, gave us the finger and said 'Down with
the U.S.A.' or 'The U.S.A. sucks," Mr. Nadeau said. At one point,
a Canadian player made a disparaging remark about the United
States "and the referee turned around and said, 'I agree with
you.' "What stunned us was that the referee, who is supposed to
be unbiased, is agreeing with the boys on the ice."
His players "wanted to retaliate" against the Canadians, but Mr.
Nadeau said he urged them "not to do anything foolish."
Denis Desrochers, president of the minor hockey team in Beverly,
west of Hamilton, said in an interview that he had heard nothing
about the anti-American slurs.
"It boggles my mind that the kids would say that. They don't even
talk about it," he said. "I wouldn't tolerate it. Whether you're
American or Canadian, you're not allowed to swear at any kids."
On Saturday, Mr. Carpenter went for a walk downtown with his two
children as another antiwar demonstration unfolded in Montreal --
one of several that drew huge crowds in a province staunchly
opposed to the war.
Mr. Carpenter came across a knot of demonstrators surrounding a
protester who, with an Iraqi flag and a U.S. flag, had climbed
atop a traffic light.
The crowd cheered when the man waved the Iraqi flag, and booed
the U.S. flag, Mr. Carpenter said. Then the protester doused the
U.S. flag in kerosene.
"It went up in a puff of smoke and flames, and the crowd went
wild. They were all cheering," said Mr. Carpenter, whose 24-year-
old son, a U.S. Marine, was sent to retrieve bodies of Americans
killed in the 2001 terrorist bombing of USS Cole in Yemen.
Mr. Carpenter tried to explain the anti-American displays to his
children. "I said to my kids, 'These folks disagree with our
government, not you personally.' "
As they crossed the border into the United States, cheers went up
in the bus. "We were very, very happy to get back home," Mr.
Nadeau said.
**
Canadians who want to send a different message from that sent by
those Montrealers might consider attending the Rally for America
in Toronto on Friday at noon.
_______________________________
I'm sure there'll be at least a dozen of them at the rally!
Canada SUCKS!
--
UN-OUT!
"Get the U.S. out of the UN and the UN out of the U.S."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UN-OUT/
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| User: "Adam H." |
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08 Jan 2006 05:34:36 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:15:02 -0600, "UN-OUT" <NO-UN@freedom.unn>
wrote:
http://frum.nationalreview.com/archives/04032003.asp
Shame
Here’s an appalling story from Wednesday’s Globe & Mail:
....almost 3 years ago.
What makes you Americans so insecure nowadays?
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I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it
‘Republican’, but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I’ll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
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| User: "Hank McSpank" |
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08 Jan 2006 06:01:40 PM |
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What makes you Americans so insecure nowadays?
It's hard to be a nation of congenital liars who deep down know that
they are in the wrong and have been for decades. That's why you hear so
seppos decrying problems in other country when the same problem is
self evident in their own country(but much worse).
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08 Jan 2006 06:47:41 PM |
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Thank you very much.
Henrietta K. Thomas
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| User: "tightwad" |
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08 Jan 2006 05:30:11 PM |
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The Goals of the Socialists running Canada are best being served by
slanderinf America and Americans.
They are diverting attention from all th social and economic problems
the Socialists have caused by attacking America.
I hope Free Canadians will recognize what is happening and not buy into
the madness of the socialists.
Canadians are just like our neighbors down the street. They are no
different.
God help Canadians and Americans if the Socialists are not stopped.
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| User: "Republicans Hate America" |
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09 Jan 2006 02:55:13 AM |
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If we don't (blank), then the terrorists will have won
Monday, December 26, 2005; Posted: 2:48 p.m. EST (19:48 GMT)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/26/shields.terror/index.html
WASHINGTON -- After the national nightmare of September 11, 2001,
those urging their fellow Americans to pursue a particular activity or
to support a particular public policy -- whether drilling in the
Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, or outlawing civil unions between gay
Americans, or buying a new car -- would often argue that their fellow
Americans' unwillingness or refusal would force the world to conclude:
"... then the terrorists have won!"
It was Henry Kissinger who observed in 1969, "The conventional army
loses if it does not win; the guerilla wins if he does not lose." In
Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States military has more than
answered the challenge given it by routing the opposing armies. But a
case can be made -- four-and-a-half years after the terrorists'
assaults on New York and Washington -- that the criminals who
organized and executed that attack have succeeded beyond their wildest
expectations.
First, the United States is less favorably regarded and much more
isolated in the world than it was before 9-11. According to the Pew
Global Attitudes Project, anti-Americanism "surged as a result of the
U.S. war in Iraq." In 2000, three out of four citizens of Canada,
Britain, France and Germany held a favorable opinion of the United
States. By 2005, less than a minority of people in those same
countries felt favorably.
Japan, France and Germany are all more favorably regarded than the
United States by the countries of Europe, and China has a more
positive image than the United States among the Europeans polled. In
Jordan, Turkey and Morocco, positive feelings toward the United States
have fallen through the floor.
The unity that had been the hallmark of the nation in the last months
of 2001 was replaced by polarization and distrust. George W. Bush, who
-- if he had chosen to do so -- could have become another Ike by
governing as a center-right leader and bringing three or four
Democrats into his Cabinet as part of a national coalition government,
decided instead to follow an ardently conservative agenda in a time of
war featuring historically aberrational tax cuts.
The social fabric of the nation has been worn and torn. The number and
percentage of this country's citizens in poverty has gone up each and
every year of this decade. Today, there are 5.4 million more Americans
living in poverty, most of them children, than there were when George
W. Bush was elected president. The number without health insurance
grew by more than 6 million from 2000 to 2004, to more than 45 million
Americans. During the same period, employer-sponsored health insurance
dropped by 5 full percentage points, from covering 66 percent of the
non-elderly to just 61 percent.
Inflation-adjusted hourly and weekly wages are still below where they
were in the fall of 2001, in spite of the fact that worker
productivity has risen some 13.5 percent during that same time. For
five years in a row, Americans' median household income has dropped.
It was actually $1,740 lower in 2004 than it had been in 1999. Those
in the nation forced to work for the minimum wage (which has not been
increased in nearly nine years, during which time the Congress has
voted itself seven salary increases) have paid a painful price. The
real value of the minimum wage has fallen by 82 cents from $6.02 to
$5.15 an hour since 2000 to today.
In a morally just nation, the rich do not get richer while the poor
get poorer. But in the United States, that has been the continuing
case. In the last quarter century, the household income of the highest
quintile of the population has increased by 52 percent, while that
same figure for the lowest quintile has grown by not quite 5 percent.
The nation's fiscal health has deteriorated. When Bush took office,
the debt ceiling for all federal borrowing was under $6 trillion and
had not been raised since 1997. Last year, Bush signed into law
another $800 billion increase in the debt ceiling to $8.2 trillion. In
the first 224 years of the nation, 42 U.S. presidents borrowed a total
of $1.01 trillion from all foreign sources. In just over one term in
office, George W. Bush has out-borrowed all 42 of his predecessors.
Some record.
By standards of national cohesion, economic and social justice,
international respect, and fiscal vitality, the United States has lost
much ground since 9-11, and we're not winning this war.
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| User: "Hank McSpank" |
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08 Jan 2006 05:59:17 PM |
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tightwad wrote:
The Goals of the Socialists running Canada are best being served by
slanderinf America and Americans.
They are diverting attention from all th social and economic problems
the Socialists have caused by attacking America.
Do they have big problems? Are they as big as an illegal war that has
cost US taxpayers (the poor ones that is) up to two trillion dollars and
an economy that is mired in debt of eight trillion dollars.
Is that a beam in your eye or are you just going to close that one and
pretend that it's all OK?
I hope Free Canadians will recognize what is happening and not buy into
the madness of the socialists.
At least doctors don't check the wallet before the pulse in Canada
Canadians are just like our neighbors down the street. They are no
different.
God help Canadians and Americans if the Socialists are not stopped.
Any you think that your corporate kleptocracy is better than socialism?
Man seppos are crazy.
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| User: "Ms Liberty" |
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09 Jan 2006 09:10:28 PM |
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Hank McSpank <hankmcspank@blah.com> wrote :
tightwad wrote:
The Goals of the Socialists running Canada are best being
served by slanderinf America and Americans.
They are diverting attention from all th social and economic
problems the Socialists have caused by attacking America.
Do they have big problems? Are they as big as an illegal war
that has cost US taxpayers (the poor ones that is) up to two
trillion dollars and an economy that is mired in debt of eight
trillion dollars. Is that a beam in your eye or are you just
going to close that one and pretend that it's all OK?
I hope Free Canadians will recognize what is happening and
not buy into the madness of the socialists.
At least doctors don't check the wallet before the pulse in
Canada
Yeah they can't, it takes 6-12 months before they can see you!
Socialist medicine!
--
Ms Liberty - United States of America
"Gun control often serves as a gateway to tyranny. Tyrants from
Hitler to Mao to Stalin have sought to disarm their own citizens,
for the simple reason that unarmed people are easier to control.
Our Founders, having just expelled the British army, knew that
the right to bear arms serves as the guardian of every other
right. This is the principle so often ignored by both sides in
the gun control debate. Only armed citizens can resist tyrannical
government." - Ron Paul
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| User: "Chris Kingsley" |
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08 Jan 2006 03:39:55 PM |
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This is the second time in two days you've sent out this big cross-posted
spam sucking ***** on a three year old "story" if I can call it that,
about a few brainless hockey fans shouting anti-American abuse at an
American hockey team. And if the hockey team had been from Ontario they'd
have been shouting anti-English slogans, and if it had been a native team
they'd have been shouting anti-native slogans. They're idiots. Get over it.
Like the US doesn't have enough idiots of its own fer gawd's sakes.
"UN-OUT" <NO-UN@freedom.unn> wrote in message
news:Z5ednUb1WqJLHVzeRVn-sQ@forethought.net...
http://frum.nationalreview.com/archives/04032003.asp
Shame
Here's an appalling story from Wednesday's Globe & Mail:
Canadians hurl abuse at U.S. hockey peewees
By INGRID PERITZ
Wednesday, April 2, 2003 - Page A1
MONTREAL -- A peewee hockey tournament in Montreal became a trip
into hostile territory for a busload of Americans who say they
encountered such fierce anti-Americanism that they will think
twice before returning.
During a four-day visit, boys travelling with their Massachusetts
hockey team witnessed the burning of the Stars and Stripes and
the booing of the U.S. national anthem. When travelling in their
bus emblazoned with a red-white-and-blue "Coach USA" logo, they
saw people on the street who extended their middle fingers or
made other angry gestures.
On the ice, the Canadian players told their visiting counterparts
that "the U.S. sucks" and dispensed other anti-American insults,
the Americans said.
"It was a shock to go to a tournament and have kids saying this
to us. These are our friends that are doing this," Brockton
Boxers coach Ernest Nadeau said.
"We didn't expect Canadian players -- especially young boys --
would take things to that extreme," he said in an interview.
The 11- and 12-year-old boys from Brockton, 30 kilometres south
of Boston, had been looking forward to the hockey tournament in
Montreal. But parents who accompanied them said they were
unprepared for the depth of anti-American sentiment over the
U.S.-led war against Iraq.
One parent, Bill Carpenter, was so upset he cancelled his
family's vacation to Quebec this summer.
"We were very offended by the whole thing," said Mr. Carpenter,
who accompanied two sons on the trip.
"I understand the opposition to the war. But we were made to feel
unwelcome just about anywhere we went.
"Montreal is a 5½-hour drive for us. It's not like we were
travelling to Syria or France or Germany," he said. "As
Americans, we felt in the past that Canada was our closest ally
and friend. No one told us we were heading into unfriendly
territory."
The trip soured soon after the Americans rolled into Montreal on
March 20.
Their bus entered downtown Montreal just as hundreds of college
and university students were marching through the streets in an
antiwar demonstration. Police cruisers spotted the U.S. bus and
escorted it to its hotel on Sherbrooke Street as a safety
precaution. A police officer urged the visitors to remain in the
bus until the protest passed.
The children watched as several demonstrators made obscene
gestures toward the bus. A U.S. flag was dragged through the
street.
"We felt horrible," Mr. Nadeau said. "How would you feel if the
Canadian flag was dragged down the streets in the U.S.A.? This is
a country that's supposed to be our ally."
That night, about a dozen families went to the Montreal
Canadiens-New York Islanders game at the Montreal Bell Centre, a
much-anticipated visit planned months in advance. In a gesture
later condemned, the U.S. national anthem was widely booed by the
crowd, leaving the visiting American children perplexed.
"The kids were just questioning, 'Why are they doing this?' "
said David Cruise, who was there with his 12-year-old son. "It's
hard for them to realize we weren't in America any more; we were
in a different country.
"I said, 'They're booing our national anthem because they don't
like us.' "
Mr. Cruise felt so uncomfortable that he left with his son after
the first period. "Whether you're for or against the war, we have
guys over there dying," Mr. Cruise said. "The next time, we'll
stay in the States. I'm not going back there again."
The visitors say anti-American comments continued when the young
players faced off against the Beverly Bandits, a team from
Beverly, Ont. U.S. players say the Canadians hurled insults
during face-offs and at other times.
"They told us we sucked, gave us the finger and said 'Down with
the U.S.A.' or 'The U.S.A. sucks," Mr. Nadeau said. At one point,
a Canadian player made a disparaging remark about the United
States "and the referee turned around and said, 'I agree with
you.' "What stunned us was that the referee, who is supposed to
be unbiased, is agreeing with the boys on the ice."
His players "wanted to retaliate" against the Canadians, but Mr.
Nadeau said he urged them "not to do anything foolish."
Denis Desrochers, president of the minor hockey team in Beverly,
west of Hamilton, said in an interview that he had heard nothing
about the anti-American slurs.
"It boggles my mind that the kids would say that. They don't even
talk about it," he said. "I wouldn't tolerate it. Whether you're
American or Canadian, you're not allowed to swear at any kids."
On Saturday, Mr. Carpenter went for a walk downtown with his two
children as another antiwar demonstration unfolded in Montreal --
one of several that drew huge crowds in a province staunchly
opposed to the war.
Mr. Carpenter came across a knot of demonstrators surrounding a
protester who, with an Iraqi flag and a U.S. flag, had climbed
atop a traffic light.
The crowd cheered when the man waved the Iraqi flag, and booed
the U.S. flag, Mr. Carpenter said. Then the protester doused the
U.S. flag in kerosene.
"It went up in a puff of smoke and flames, and the crowd went
wild. They were all cheering," said Mr. Carpenter, whose 24-year-
old son, a U.S. Marine, was sent to retrieve bodies of Americans
killed in the 2001 terrorist bombing of USS Cole in Yemen.
Mr. Carpenter tried to explain the anti-American displays to his
children. "I said to my kids, 'These folks disagree with our
government, not you personally.' "
As they crossed the border into the United States, cheers went up
in the bus. "We were very, very happy to get back home," Mr.
Nadeau said.
**
Canadians who want to send a different message from that sent by
those Montrealers might consider attending the Rally for America
in Toronto on Friday at noon.
_______________________________
I'm sure there'll be at least a dozen of them at the rally!
Canada SUCKS!
--
UN-OUT!
"Get the U.S. out of the UN and the UN out of the U.S."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UN-OUT/
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