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User: "J. Hyderman"
Date: 08 Jan 2006 03:39:14 PM
Object: No-fly list ends beach vacation
Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches U.S.
By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail
TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima, and
their two young sons were flown right back to their home in Mississauga
after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he ended up in a
Mexican jail.
The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly" list
of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked an
international incident involving officials in three countries and no end of
shock and dismay for his wife and children.
"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."
Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air space.
It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.
Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns and
operates a shoe store in Scarborough.
"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.
The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect continental
borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without problems. The likes
of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most recognizable figures in U.S.
politics, singer Cat Stevens and even Canada's Defence Minister, Bill
Graham, have had trouble boarding commercial flights, or been blocked
altogether, because their names were accidentally included on the list.
All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.
She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.
The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the first
family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.
Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States with a
list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base and up
popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.
Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs 11,000
flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had ever been
detained by immigration authorities because his name was on the no-fly list.
When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room for
questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their sons,
Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of hours
later that the Kahils found out why.
Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr. Kahil
was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.
After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for her
husband to be returned to Canada.
The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he would
just disappear.
"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it in
Canada."
Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr. Kahil
arrives home.
"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names are
not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.
Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.
As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they consider
taking another vacation outside Canada.
"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442
Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!
.

User: "E.E.Bud Keith"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 04:30:42 PM
"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
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Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima, and
their two young sons were flown right back to their home in Mississauga
after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he ended up in a
Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked an
international incident involving officials in three countries and no end
of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air space.
It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States with
a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base and
up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on the
no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room for
questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their sons,
Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of hours
later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr. Kahil
was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for her
husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he would
just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it in
Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names are
not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they consider
taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!

And nit wits like you can not help but make up some Bush story about
somthing that you know nothing about.

If this guy was wronged he is owed and apology and he will be released. If
it were up to nuts like you terrorists would be running around the world
killing at will.
Now having said that, perhaps there was a mistake made
and everyone makes mistaskes. And idiots like like you want to take a simple
mistake and elevate it to a world shaking affair because of your irrational
hate for Bush.
And of course we all know how perfect liberals are,they never make mistakes.
Except the entire contemporary liberal movement is nothing but one gigantic
mistake.
.
User: "J. Hyderman"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 04:33:17 PM
"E.E.Bud Keith" <budk101@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
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Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches
U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima,
and their two young sons were flown right back to their home in
Mississauga after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he
ended up in a Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked
an international incident involving officials in three countries and no
end of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air
space. It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States with
a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base
and up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on the
no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room
for questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their
sons, Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of
hours later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr.
Kahil was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for
her husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he
would just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it in
Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names
are not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they
consider taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!

And nit wits like you can not help but make up some Bush story about
somthing that you know nothing about.

If this guy was wronged he is owed and apology and he will be released. If
it were up to nuts like you terrorists would be running around the world
killing at will.
Now having said that, perhaps there was a mistake made
and everyone makes mistaskes. And idiots like like you want to take a
simple mistake and elevate it to a world shaking affair because of your
irrational hate for Bush.
And of course we all know how perfect liberals are,they never make
mistakes. Except the entire contemporary liberal movement is nothing but
one gigantic mistake.

Translation: >hic<
.

User: "Joseph Welch"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 05:41:05 PM
"E.E.Bud Keith" <budk101@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:oZSdnY7uaYkfD1zeRVn-rg@comcast.com...

If it were up to nuts like you terrorists would be running around the
world killing at will.

What a fucking ridiculous statement. Were you born this stupid or do you
have to really work at it? Was there a brain damage incident somewhere in
your past?
You are a total moron.
--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
.

User: "Miles Long"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 09 Jan 2006 11:51:48 AM
E.E.Bud Keith wrote:

"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
news:6Efwf.45558$dO2.37515@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...

Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima, and
their two young sons were flown right back to their home in Mississauga
after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he ended up in a
Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked an
international incident involving officials in three countries and no end
of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air space.
It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States with
a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base and
up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on the
no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room for
questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their sons,
Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of hours
later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr. Kahil
was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for her
husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he would
just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it in
Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names are
not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they consider
taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!

And nit wits like you can not help but make up some Bush story about
somthing that you know nothing about.


If this guy was wronged he is owed and apology and he will be released. If
it were up to nuts like you terrorists would be running around the world
killing at will.

Thank you E.E. for the funniest post today! <laughing>
Miles "One Old Man Who Can't Stay Out Of His Own Way" Long

Now having said that, perhaps there was a mistake made
and everyone makes mistaskes. And idiots like like you want to take a simple
mistake and elevate it to a world shaking affair because of your irrational
hate for Bush.
And of course we all know how perfect liberals are,they never make mistakes.
Except the entire contemporary liberal movement is nothing but one gigantic
mistake.


.

User: "Rob Olsen"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 05:12:24 PM
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:30:42 -0600, "E.E.Bud Keith"
<budk101@comcast.net> wrote:


"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
news:6Efwf.45558$dO2.37515@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...

Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima, and
their two young sons were flown right back to their home in Mississauga
after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he ended up in a
Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked an
international incident involving officials in three countries and no end
of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air space.
It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States with
a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base and
up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on the
no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room for
questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their sons,
Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of hours
later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr. Kahil
was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for her
husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he would
just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it in
Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names are
not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they consider
taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!

And nit wits like you can not help but make up some Bush story about
somthing that you know nothing about.

If this guy was wronged he is owed and apology and he will be released. If
it were up to nuts like you terrorists would be running around the world
killing at will.

Unfortunately, thanks to vote fraud on the part of the Republican
party, terrorists ARE running around the world killing at will at the
behest of GW Bush.

Now having said that, perhaps there was a mistake made
and everyone makes mistaskes. And idiots like like you want to take a simple
mistake and elevate it to a world shaking affair because of your irrational
hate for Bush.

Why do you always come out in opposition to freedom?

And of course we all know how perfect liberals are,they never make mistakes.
Except the entire contemporary liberal movement is nothing but one gigantic
mistake.

LOL!! Did 5200+ americans die on a liberals watch? No. Did the US
become the most hated country on the planet on a liberals watch? No.
Was there a 500% increase in terrorism on a liberals watch? No. Did
the number of Americans living in poverty increase by 5,000,000 people
on a liberals watch? No. Are dozens of liberals implicated in bribery
scandals in congress? No.
Mistake? The only mistake we made was allowing the supreme court to
get away with violating the rights of the people of Florida in the
2000 election.
You anti-American , pathetic fucks need a good ***** kicking. You're
going to get in 2006 .
-----
"I would rather be wrapped in the constitution,
burning the flag, than wrapped in the flag burning
the constitution".
.
User: "Billy"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 06:23:35 PM
"Rob Olsen" <Rob@burningbush.org> wrote in message
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:30:42 -0600, "E.E.Bud Keith"
<budk101@comcast.net> wrote:


"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
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Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches
U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima,
and
their two young sons were flown right back to their home in Mississauga
after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he ended up in a
Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked
an
international incident involving officials in three countries and no end
of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by
RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air
space.
It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is
a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome
in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States
with
a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base
and
up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on
the
no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room
for
questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their sons,
Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of hours
later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr.
Kahil
was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for
her
husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said
she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he
would
just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it
in
Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names
are
not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in
Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they
consider
taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!

And nit wits like you can not help but make up some Bush story about
somthing that you know nothing about.

If this guy was wronged he is owed and apology and he will be released. If
it were up to nuts like you terrorists would be running around the world
killing at will.


Unfortunately, thanks to vote fraud on the part of the Republican
party, terrorists ARE running around the world killing at will at the
behest of GW Bush.


Now having said that, perhaps there was a mistake made
and everyone makes mistaskes. And idiots like like you want to take a
simple
mistake and elevate it to a world shaking affair because of your
irrational
hate for Bush.


Why do you always come out in opposition to freedom?

And of course we all know how perfect liberals are,they never make
mistakes.
Except the entire contemporary liberal movement is nothing but one
gigantic
mistake.


LOL!! Did 5200+ americans die on a liberals watch?

The plan was concived, trained for and rehearsed.
No. Did the US

become the most hated country on the planet on a liberals watch?

Yes, didn't you watch Bin laden declair war on the US and call for all Arabs
to kill us on ? Don't worry neither did Willie.
Once again, I have to stress the necessity of focusing on the Americans and
the Jews for they represent the spearhead with which the members of our
religion have been slaughtered. Any effort directed against America and the
Jews yields positive and direct results -- Allah willing. It is far better
for anyone to kill a single American soldier than to squander his efforts on
other activities."-- Osama bin Laden, in May 1998, a little over two months
before the U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, in the transcript of
(ABC reporter) John Miller, "Interview: Osama bin Laden," as posted on the
PBS web site (last checked, September 19, 2001)
They compromise our honor and our dignity and dare we utter a single word of
protest against the injustice, we are called terrorists. May 1998 interview,
Frontline
"Our job is to instigate, and by the grace of God, we did that, and certain
people responded to this instigation."-- Osama bin Laden, regarding bombing
of two U.S. embassies in Africa, quoted from http://i.am/not_a_crook
"They [the United States] violate our land and occupy it and steal the
Muslims' possessions, and when faced by resistance they call it
terrorism."-- Osama bin Laden, on TV in June 1999, quoted from
http://i.am/not_a_crook
"I have high regard and respect for those men who erased the disgrace from
the forehead of our nation."-- Osama bin Laden, on TV in June 1999

Was there a 500% increase in terrorism on a liberals watch?

yes
2000, October 12 Yemen - USS Cole, 17 Killed (US sailors); Bomb laden boat
rammed the ship. Osama bin Ladin, Al-Qaeda
1999, October 31 Massachusetts - EgyptAir Flight 990, 217 Killed (100
Americans); Deliberate plane crash Unknown
1998, August 7 Tanzania - U.S. Embassy, 11 Killed; 86 Injured; Car bomb
Osama bin Laden, Al-Qaeda
1998, August 7 Kenya - U.S.Embassy, 292 Killed (12 Americans); 5,000
Injured; Car bomb Osama bin Laden, Al-Qaeda
1997, November 12 Pakistan - Hotel, 5 Killed (4 Americans); Shot to death in
their car Islamic Inqilabi, No arrests
1997, February 23 New York City - Empire State building, 1 Killed (Norwegian
tourist); 4 Injured; Sniper shootings on American soil Palestinian
1996, December 3 France - Subway Train, 4 Killed (1 American); 86 Injured;
Bomb exploded Algerian extremists
1996, July 17 New York - TWA Flight 800, 230 Killed (169 Americans);
exploded in air Unknown
1996, June 25 Saudi Arabia - Khobar Towers , 19 Killed (all Americans); 515
Injured; Truck bomb Saudi Hezballah
1995, November 13 Saudi Arabia - Riyadh headquarters , 7 Killed (5
Americans); 42 Wounded; Car bomb Islamic Jihad
1995, July 4 India - Hotel, 5 Killed (1 American); tourists kidnapped. One
was found beheaded in October and the other four were never seen again.
Al-Faran, No arrests
1995, March 8 Pakistan - US Consulate Vehicle, 2 Killed (American diplomats)
1 Injured; Shot with assault rifles Unknown, No arrests
1994, March 1 Brooklyn, New York - Brooklyn Bridge, 1 Killed; 13 Injured;
Automobile chase and gun attack on van of American Jew teenagers Lebanese
Islamic terrorist
1993, February 26 New York City - World Trade Center, 6 Killed; 1,042
Injured; Massive Car bomb Islamic extremists
1993, January 25 Virginia - Central Intelligence Agency, 2 Killed
(Americans); 3 Wounded; Sniper attack Mir Aimal Kasi, Pakistani terrorist;,
captured, executed
1993, October 3-4 Somalia - Mogadishu, 18 American Soldiers Killed who were
part of a UN Peacekeeping force Islamic terrorists led by Mohamed Farah
Aideed; Planned by Osama bin Laden
1991, October 28 Turkey - Istanbul, 1 Killed (US Soldier); 1 Wounded; Car
bomb Islamic Jihad
1991, October 28 Turkey - Ankara, 1 Killed (US Soldier); 1 Injured (his
wife); Car bomb Islamic Jihad
1991, February 7 Turkey - Incirlik Air Base, 1 Killed (American), Shot as he
got into his car Unknown
1988, December 21 Scotland; Pan-Am Boeing 747 , 270 Killed (189 Americans);
Bomb in suitcase Libya
1988, February 17 Lebanon, 1 Killed (US military officer); Kidnapped from
his car and killed Hezballah
1987, May 17 Persian Gulf - USS Stark, 37 American Servicemen Killed by 2
air to ground missles Iraqi Fighter Jet
1986, September 5 Pakistan - Pan Am Flight 73, 22 Killed (2 Americans); 150
wounded; attempted plane hijacking; terrorists shot passengers and threw
grenades
You do the math
o. Did

the number of Americans living in poverty increase by 5,000,000 people
on a liberals watch?

The lack of imgration laws from the liberals caused it though.
Are dozens of liberals implicated in bribery

scandals in congress? No.

Yes
Thursday, October 27, 2005
Today's Democratic Indictment, Conviction & Sentencing News
Just Today:
* Wisconsin - State Senate Majority Leader pleads guilty to two felonies
* Illinois - 5 convicted election leaders have sentencing postponed until
January
* Alabama - Former Governor indicted on federal racketeering charges
* Texas - Contractors Association pleads guilty to two counts of illegal
donations to Democrats
Senate Majority Leader Democrat Chuck Chvala of Wisconsin said he did not
believe he was breaking the law when pleading guilty to two felonies today
but fellow Democrat Douglas Burnett disagreed saying both he and Chvala were
fighting to keep Chvala as Majority Leader the Capital Times reported today.
"In our zeal to win elections Senator Chvala and I know we crossed the line
and we broke the law," Burnett said in a statement to the court before
sentencing. "We knew we were crossing the line and we did it anyway because
we thought the ends justify the means," Burnett added. "I've learned the
ends never justify the means."
"It is a failure I will have to live with for the rest of my life," he said.
Earlier in the day Chvala entered guilty pleas to two felony counts,
including one involving the activity Burnett was part of, using a so-called
independent campaign fund to collect money from lobbyists and give it to
Democrats who were in serious election fights to retain their seats.
Without those Democrats winning, Chvala would lose his reign as majority
leader in the Senate and all the power that position has.
Chvala won back control of the Senate from Republicans in 1996 and held onto
it until he was charged with 19 felonies in 2002, using the post to stymie
Republicans who controlled the Assembly and governor's office during that
period. Many of the Democrats defeated in 2002 were targeted because of
their links to Chvala.
Texas Contractors today pled guilty to illegal campaign donations to
Democrats in Texas:
The U.S. Hispanic Contractors Association has pleaded guilty to two counts
of giving illegal corporate donations to Democratic candidates during the
2002 election.
The association, facing a maximum fine of $20,000 per count, agreed to pay
$3,000 for each donation.
"Texas law is very clear in prohibiting campaign contributions by
corporations and labor unions," Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle
said.
The contractors were charged with contributing money collected from
businesses to political candidates. John Sharp, running for lieutenant
governor, received $1,000 from the contractors, and Sam Guzman, running for
state representative from Austin, got $2,000.
In the case of DeLay's committee, Texans for a Republican Majority, the
Republicans spent $600,000 of corporate money on consultants, fundraisers,
phone banks, pollsters and made a $190,000 transfer to the Republican
National Committee, which then gave $190,000 to Texas candidates during the
2002 elections. But DeLay's committee apparently did not give corporate
money directly to candidates, as the contractors did. The Texas Association
of Business spent $1.7 million on direct mail either touting or criticizing
legislative candidates but also did not give money directly to candidates.
In East St. Louis, Illinois today, the five Democratic leaders convicted of
voter fraud in July had their sentencing postponed until January.
The sentencing hearings for former City Council member Charles Powell Jr.
and four other Democratic Party leaders convicted of vote buying have been
rescheduled for January and February.
U.S. District Chief Judge G. Patrick Murphy, who had presided over their
four-week trial in June and will mete out their sentences, on Wednesday set
the following schedule of sentencings:
.. Sheila Thomas -- 8 a.m., Jan. 30
.. Yvette Johnson -- 9 a.m., Jan. 30
.. Kelvin Ellis -- 8 a.m., Feb. 6
.. Jesse Lewis -- 9 a.m., Feb. 6
.. Charlie Powell -- 8 a.m., Feb. 13
Murphy originally had scheduled the hearings for Oct. 3, but postponed them
until after he had ruled on the defendants' post-conviction motions seeking
either new trials or vacated sentences. Murphy issued an order Oct. 17
upholding the convictions.
Sen. Jim Talent has returned a $2,000 contribution made to his 2002 Senate
campaign by indicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
Democrats have yet to return "dirty money" donations from U.S. Rep. Frank
Ballance, a North Carolina Democrat, was "sentenced" to four years in prison
on Oct. 12.
But, Democrats are howling that Congressional hopeful Jim Feldkamp is
rejecting calls to return $10,000 he received from "indicted" House Majority
Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.
And, finally, Powerline today mentioned that Alabama's former Democratic
Governor, Donald Siegelman, was indicted yesterday on federal charges of
racketeering, fraud, bribery, extortion and obstruction of justice.
Siegelman is alleged to have taken bribes while governor.
For previous news on the Democratic Culture of Corruption:
West Virginia - At least 6 Convictions of Voter Fraud this Year
West Virginia Democrats Charged with Vote Buying
Senator Byrd Loses Support
Another One Bites the Dust from the "Culture of Corruption" Party
St. Louis - (Missouri and Illinois) 16 convictions of voter fraud, election
violations, and attempted murder of a federal voter fraud witness
East St. Louis makes Voter Fraud a Business
$5 for Non-Racists; Racists are $10
ESL Prosecution Witness Falters
Damning Tapes in East St. Louis Voter Fraud Trial
Witness Grilled at ESL Vote Fraud Trial
How to Buy Votes at ESL Vote Fraud Trial
"Showing Appreciation" at ESL Voter Fraud Trial
Democratic Vote Buyers May Get Pass
ESL Vote Fraud Trial Gets Nasty
Ugly Politics, Ugly Trial in ESL
Closing Arguments Wrap Up in ESL Voter Fraud Trial
"Guilty" Verdict in ESL Voter Fraud Trial
Convicting Democrats is New St. Louis Pastime
Another One Bites the Dust from the "Culture of Corruption" Party
Area Democrat Pleads Guilty of Plotting to Murder Federal Voter Fraud Case
Witness!
More Democrats to be Indicted in East St. Louis
North Carolina- Fraud
U.S. Representative sentenced to four years for fraud


.

User: "E.E.Bud Keith"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 05:47:28 PM
"Rob Olsen" <Rob@burningbush.org> wrote in message
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:30:42 -0600, "E.E.Bud Keith"
<budk101@comcast.net> wrote:


"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
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Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches
U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima,
and
their two young sons were flown right back to their home in Mississauga
after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he ended up in a
Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked
an
international incident involving officials in three countries and no end
of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by
RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air
space.
It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is
a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome
in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States
with
a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base
and
up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on
the
no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room
for
questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their sons,
Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of hours
later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr.
Kahil
was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for
her
husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said
she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he
would
just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it
in
Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names
are
not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in
Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they
consider
taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!

And nit wits like you can not help but make up some Bush story about
somthing that you know nothing about.

If this guy was wronged he is owed and apology and he will be released. If
it were up to nuts like you terrorists would be running around the world
killing at will.


Unfortunately, thanks to vote fraud on the part of the Republican
party, terrorists ARE running around the world killing at will at the
behest of GW Bush.


Now having said that, perhaps there was a mistake made
and everyone makes mistaskes. And idiots like like you want to take a
simple
mistake and elevate it to a world shaking affair because of your
irrational
hate for Bush.


Why do you always come out in opposition to freedom?

And of course we all know how perfect liberals are,they never make
mistakes.
Except the entire contemporary liberal movement is nothing but one
gigantic
mistake.


LOL!! Did 5200+ americans die on a liberals watch? No. Did the US
become the most hated country on the planet on a liberals watch? No.
Was there a 500% increase in terrorism on a liberals watch? No. Did
the number of Americans living in poverty increase by 5,000,000 people
on a liberals watch? No. Are dozens of liberals implicated in bribery
scandals in congress? No.


Mistake? The only mistake we made was allowing the supreme court to
get away with violating the rights of the people of Florida in the
2000 election.


You anti-American , pathetic fucks need a good ***** kicking. You're
going to get in 2006 .

You silly *****, with the way you liberals work you are not going to win
elections in the next 20 years.
Hate mongering does not win *****, all you goof balls do is try to spread
hate and decent. Further your so fucking dumb that you think the list you
put ion this post cannot be applied to any politician liberal or
conservative.
You are so full of ,dumbocrap/socialist bull ***** that you can't fimd your
***** with both hands.



-----

"I would rather be wrapped in the constitution,
burning the flag, than wrapped in the flag burning
the constitution".

.
User: "John Agosta"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 06:00:16 PM
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:30:42 -0600, "E.E.Bud Keith"
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"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
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Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches
U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima,
and
their two young sons were flown right back to their home in Mississauga
after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he ended up in a
Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked
an
international incident involving officials in three countries and no
end
of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an
interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by
RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air
space.
It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is
a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names
were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome
in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States
with
a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base
and
up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on
the
no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room
for
questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their sons,
Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of hours
later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr.
Kahil
was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for
her
husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said
she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he
would
just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it
in
Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names
are
not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in
Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they
consider
taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!

And nit wits like you can not help but make up some Bush story about
somthing that you know nothing about.

If this guy was wronged he is owed and apology and he will be released.
If
it were up to nuts like you terrorists would be running around the world
killing at will.


Unfortunately, thanks to vote fraud on the part of the Republican
party, terrorists ARE running around the world killing at will at the
behest of GW Bush.


Now having said that, perhaps there was a mistake made
and everyone makes mistaskes. And idiots like like you want to take a
simple
mistake and elevate it to a world shaking affair because of your
irrational
hate for Bush.


Why do you always come out in opposition to freedom?

And of course we all know how perfect liberals are,they never make
mistakes.
Except the entire contemporary liberal movement is nothing but one
gigantic
mistake.


LOL!! Did 5200+ americans die on a liberals watch? No. Did the US
become the most hated country on the planet on a liberals watch? No.
Was there a 500% increase in terrorism on a liberals watch? No. Did
the number of Americans living in poverty increase by 5,000,000 people
on a liberals watch? No. Are dozens of liberals implicated in bribery
scandals in congress? No.


Mistake? The only mistake we made was allowing the supreme court to
get away with violating the rights of the people of Florida in the
2000 election.


You anti-American , pathetic fucks need a good ***** kicking. You're
going to get in 2006 .


You silly *****, with the way you liberals work you are not going to win
elections in the next 20 years.
Hate mongering does not win *****, all you goof balls do is try to spread
hate and decent. Further your so fucking dumb that you think the list you
put ion this post cannot be applied to any politician liberal or
conservative.
You are so full of ,dumbocrap/socialist bull ***** that you can't fimd your
***** with both hands.

Well spoken !!
Your command of the English language must make your school teachers and
parents proud !
.


User: "John Agosta"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 05:25:47 PM
This guy should be reimbursed every cent he's lost, and more, for the BS
he's been through.
"Rob Olsen" <Rob@burningbush.org> wrote in message
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:30:42 -0600, "E.E.Bud Keith"
<budk101@comcast.net> wrote:


"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
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Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches
U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima,
and
their two young sons were flown right back to their home in Mississauga
after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he ended up in a
Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked
an
international incident involving officials in three countries and no end
of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by
RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air
space.
It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is
a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome
in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States
with
a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base
and
up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on
the
no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room
for
questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their sons,
Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of hours
later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr.
Kahil
was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for
her
husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said
she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he
would
just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it
in
Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names
are
not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in
Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they
consider
taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!

And nit wits like you can not help but make up some Bush story about
somthing that you know nothing about.

If this guy was wronged he is owed and apology and he will be released. If
it were up to nuts like you terrorists would be running around the world
killing at will.


Unfortunately, thanks to vote fraud on the part of the Republican
party, terrorists ARE running around the world killing at will at the
behest of GW Bush.


Now having said that, perhaps there was a mistake made
and everyone makes mistaskes. And idiots like like you want to take a
simple
mistake and elevate it to a world shaking affair because of your
irrational
hate for Bush.


Why do you always come out in opposition to freedom?

And of course we all know how perfect liberals are,they never make
mistakes.
Except the entire contemporary liberal movement is nothing but one
gigantic
mistake.


LOL!! Did 5200+ americans die on a liberals watch? No. Did the US
become the most hated country on the planet on a liberals watch? No.
Was there a 500% increase in terrorism on a liberals watch? No. Did
the number of Americans living in poverty increase by 5,000,000 people
on a liberals watch? No. Are dozens of liberals implicated in bribery
scandals in congress? No.


Mistake? The only mistake we made was allowing the supreme court to
get away with violating the rights of the people of Florida in the
2000 election.


You anti-American , pathetic fucks need a good ***** kicking. You're
going to get in 2006 .


-----

"I would rather be wrapped in the constitution,
burning the flag, than wrapped in the flag burning
the constitution".

.
User: "Republicans Hate America"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 10:26:57 PM
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 17:25:47 -0600, "John Agosta"
<j_agosta@remove_wideopenwest.kom> wrote:

This guy should be reimbursed every cent he's lost, and more, for the BS
he's been through.

He's not the only one
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1106404904408_3?hub=Canada
Arar lawsuit threatens national security: U.S.
CTV.ca News Staff
The U.S. government filed a motion to dismiss a lawsuit brought by
Maher Arar, claiming information released on his deportation would
threaten national security, The Toronto Star reported.
U.S. Department of Justice lawyers said if information was released on
U.S. involvement in Arar's deportation to Syria in 2002, it could
endanger "intelligence, foreign policy and national security interests
of the United States."
Lawyers who filed the motion on Arar's behalf say it's an attempt to
avoid a review of its policy on terrorism suspects.
"They're asking the court to sanction their cover-up basically," Maria
LaHood, lawyer with New York's Center for Constitutional Rights told
The Star Friday.
The lawsuit, which was launched last January in the U.S., alleges that
U.S. officials within President George Bush's administration knew Arar
would be tortured.
Arar was detained as he travelled through a New York airport in
September 2002, on suspicion of ties to the al Qaeda terrorist
network.
U.S. authorities deported him to Syria via Jordan, where he was
allegedly tortured and held without charges for a year before his
release in 2003.
Arar and his wife Monia Mazigh have been pressing the Canadian
government also to release information about his case to the public.
Last month, Arar reminded Canadians that "very little has been public"
since Liberal cabinet minister Anne McLellan ordered an inquiry into
the matter more than a year ago.
Arar said one of the questions he wanted to see answer was "whether
the security services in this country are contracting out
interrogations to foreign agencies."
.




User: "Billy"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 06:11:29 PM
Boo hoo
"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
news:6Efwf.45558$dO2.37515@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...

Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima, and
their two young sons were flown right back to their home in Mississauga
after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he ended up in a
Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked an
international incident involving officials in three countries and no end
of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air space.
It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States with
a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base and
up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on the
no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room for
questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their sons,
Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of hours
later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr. Kahil
was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for her
husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he would
just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it in
Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names are
not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they consider
taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!


.
User: "Demmy Moore"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 09 Jan 2006 01:12:15 AM
5,000 Americans dead on 9/11. Do I say Boo hoo?
No, I say, "Not a bad start."
"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
news:KRhwf.7297$JT.5680@fed1read06...

Boo hoo

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Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches
U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima,
and their two young sons were flown right back to their home in
Mississauga after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he
ended up in a Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked
an international incident involving officials in three countries and no
end of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air
space. It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States with
a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base
and up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on the
no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room
for questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their
sons, Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of
hours later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr.
Kahil was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for
her husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he
would just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it in
Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names
are not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they
consider taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!




.
User: "Billy"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 09 Jan 2006 11:13:41 AM
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5,000 Americans dead on 9/11. Do I say Boo hoo?
No, I say, "Not a bad start."

No one cares what you have to say, not even your mother.


"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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Boo hoo





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Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches
U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima,
and their two young sons were flown right back to their home in
Mississauga after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he
ended up in a Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked
an international incident involving officials in three countries and no
end of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by
RCMP officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air
space. It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is
a common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome
in their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States
with a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data
base and up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on
the no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room
for questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their
sons, Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of
hours later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr.
Kahil was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for
her husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said
she was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he
would just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it
in Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names
are not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in
Ottawa, would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he
returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they
consider taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!






.


User: "John Agosta"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 06:18:19 PM
Why do you say "boo hoo?"
Do you enjoy seeing innocents screwed around by bureaucracies ?
"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
news:KRhwf.7297$JT.5680@fed1read06...

Boo hoo

"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
news:6Efwf.45558$dO2.37515@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...

Unclear what awaits Ontario man detained in Mexico after name catches
U.S.

By Karen Howlett / Globe and Mail

TORONTO -- It was supposed to be a week of sun and sand at a resort in
Mexico for Sami Kahil and his family. Instead, Mr. Kahil's wife, Rima,
and their two young sons were flown right back to their home in
Mississauga after arriving in Acapulco Thursday afternoon -- while he
ended up in a Mexican jail.

The problem for Mr. Kahil is that his name happens to be on a "no-fly"
list of people prohibited from entering the United States. That sparked
an international incident involving officials in three countries and no
end of shock and dismay for his wife and children.

"He's done nothing wrong," an exasperated Ms. Kahil said in an interview
yesterday. "He's not the person they're looking for."

Mr. Kahil was due to arrive back in Canada this morning, escorted by RCMP
officers on a private airplane that will avoid flying over U.S. air
space. It is not at all clear what fate awaits him.

Ms. Kahil said it's simply a case of mistaken identity -- Sami Kahil is a
common name in the Middle East. Her 38-year-old husband is a native of
Lebanon and a Canadian citizen who has lived here for 20 years. He owns
and operates a shoe store in Scarborough.

"We have nothing to do with politics or religion," she said.

The U.S. no-fly list, designed to screen terrorists and protect
continental borders, has thousands of names on it. It is not without
problems. The likes of Senator Edward Kennedy, one of the most
recognizable figures in U.S. politics, singer Cat Stevens and even
Canada's Defence Minister, Bill Graham, have had trouble boarding
commercial flights, or been blocked altogether, because their names were
accidentally included on the list.

All of this is little consolation to Ms. Kahil, who has spent virtually
every minute since arriving home late Thursday enlisting the help of
Canadian officials to get her husband out of jail and back home.

She said the most upsetting thing for her was realizing that as Mexican
immigration officials were telling her husband that he was not welcome in
their country, no one notified officials in Canada.

The family's plight began a few hours after they boarded an Air Transat
charter flight at 8 a.m. Thursday, bound for Ixtapa. It was to be the
first family vacation in more than five years, Ms. Kahil said.

Fifteen minutes after the plane left Toronto's Pearson International
Airport, the airline provided customs officials in the United States with
a list of passengers. Agents ran the list through a national data base
and up popped a name matching Mr. Kahil's.

Air Transat spokeswoman Sophie Lussier said the charter airline runs
11,000 flights a year, but that this was the first time a passenger had
ever been detained by immigration authorities because his name was on the
no-fly list.

When the plane landed in Acapulco, the Kahils were ushered into a room
for questioning. Mug shots were taken of the couple, along with their
sons, Karim and Adam, who are 8 and 6. But it was not until a couple of
hours later that the Kahils found out why.

Ms. Kahil and the children returned to Canada later that day and Mr.
Kahil was put in a detention centre and his passport was confiscated.

After Ms. Kahil made dozens of phone calls to the airline, her MP and
Foreign Affairs, the wheels were put in motion yesterday afternoon for
her husband to be returned to Canada.

The biggest relief came for Ms. Kahil when she learned that her husband
would be escorted by the RCMP rather than U.S. air marshals. She said she
was terrified that the marshals would take him somewhere and that he
would just disappear.

"Even if he gets arrested, that's fine," she said. "We'll deal with it in
Canada."

Brian Doyle, a spokesman at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in
Washington, said his office will have no further involvement once Mr.
Kahil arrives home.

"He was of sufficient interest that we were concerned," he said. Names
are not put on the list "willy-nilly," he added.

Rodney Moore, a spokesman at the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ottawa,
would not say yesterday what will happen to Mr. Kahil when he returns.

As for Ms. Kahil and her family, it will be some time before they
consider taking another vacation outside Canada.

"My kids don't even want to hear the word Mexico or holiday," she said.
"They don't even want to go on a plane."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5442

Bush's Boogeyman Patrol just can't get that Homeland Security tweaked!




.
User: "Billy"

Title: Re: No-fly list ends beach vacation 08 Jan 2006 06:29:31 PM
"John Agosta" <j_agosta@remove_wideopenwest.kom> wrote in message
news:W8edneCJ3YtUNlzeRVn-tg@wideopenwest.com...

Why do you sa