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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Godzilla Pimp"
Date: 10 Jun 2004 10:01:17 PM
Object: No free speech in Europe
PARIS - French actress-turned-animal rights activist Brigitte Bardot was
convicted Thursday of inciting racial hatred and ordered to pay $6,000 - the
fourth such fine for the former sex symbol since 1997.
The Paris court sentenced Bardot, 69, for remarks in her book "A Scream in
the Silence," an outspoken attack on gays, immigrants and the jobless that
shocked France last year.
In the book, she laments the "Islamization of France" and the "underground
and dangerous infiltration of Islam."
"Mme. Bardot presents Muslims as barbaric and cruel invaders, responsible
for terrorist acts and eager to dominate the French to the extent of wanting
to exterminate them," the court said.
France's 5-million-member Muslim community is the largest in Europe
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5181642/
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User: "Ken [NY"

Title: Re: No free speech in Europe 11 Jun 2004 12:12:35 PM
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 03:01:17 GMT, "Godzilla Pimp" <wah@wahwah.org>
mumbled incoherently:

PARIS - French actress-turned-animal rights activist Brigitte Bardot was
convicted Thursday of inciting racial hatred and ordered to pay $6,000 - the
fourth such fine for the former sex symbol since 1997.

The Paris court sentenced Bardot, 69, for remarks in her book "A Scream in
the Silence," an outspoken attack on gays, immigrants and the jobless that
shocked France last year.
In the book, she laments the "Islamization of France" and the "underground
and dangerous infiltration of Islam."

"Mme. Bardot presents Muslims as barbaric and cruel invaders, responsible
for terrorist acts and eager to dominate the French to the extent of wanting
to exterminate them," the court said.

Americans are usually shocked that few of the rights
guaranteed to US residents - citizens or not - exist in Europe. Even
freedom of the press is nonexistant:
A former aide to Prince Charles apparently has alleged that the prince
engaged in sexual activity with another former aide, a charge that has
yet to see print in Great Britain because a court order bars
publication of the story.
Why have Britain's tabloids steered clear of the specific allegations?
It has to do with Great Britain's decidedly different take on press
freedom.
In Great Britain, anyone publishing negative allegations about someone
has to be able to prove those charges in a court of law. This standard
applies whether the plaintiff is a prince or a pauper.
http://www.detnews.com/2003/editorial/0311/19/a11-328919.htm
Cordially,
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department®
___________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm

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User: "Grinder"

Title: Dan Rather weighs in 11 Jun 2004 03:05:14 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2002/05_may/16/dan_rather.shtml
"It is an obscene comparison - you know I am not sure I like it - but you
know there was a time in South Africa that people would put flaming tyres
around people's necks if they dissented. And in some ways the fear is that
you will be necklaced here, you will have a flaming tyre of lack of
patriotism put around your neck. Now it is that fear that keeps journalists
from asking the toughest of the tough questions, and to continue to bore in
on the tough questions so often. And again, I am humbled to say, I do not
except myself from this criticism."
He declares himself a patriot, but for him the essence of being American is
being able to bring the government to account: "It's unpatriotic not to
stand up, look them in the eye, and ask the questions they don't want to
hear - they being those who have the responsibility, the ultimate
responsibility in a society such as ours, of sending our sons and daughters,
our husbands, wives, our blood, to face death, to take death. Now, in my
position my view is not to ask the tough questions in this kind of
environment is the height of lack of patriotism."
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User: "Jafo"

Title: Re: Dan Rather weighs in 11 Jun 2004 04:09:49 PM
As viewed from alt.california, Grinder wrote:

"It is an obscene comparison - you know I am not sure I like it -
but you know there was a time in South Africa that people would
put flaming tyres around people's necks if they dissented. And
in some ways the fear is that you will be necklaced here, you
will have a flaming tyre of lack of patriotism put around your
neck. Now it is that fear that keeps journalists from asking the
toughest of the tough questions, and to continue to bore in on
the tough questions so often. And again, I am humbled to say,
I do not except myself from this criticism."

He declares himself a patriot, but for him the essence of being
American is being able to bring the government to account: "It's
unpatriotic not to stand up, look them in the eye, and ask the
questions they don't want to hear - they being those who have the
responsibility, the ultimate responsibility in a society such as
ours, of sending our sons and daughters, our husbands, wives, our
blood, to face death, to take death. Now, in my position my view
is not to ask the tough questions in this kind of environment is
the height of lack of patriotism."

"What's the frequency, Kenneth?"
--
Jafo
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User: "Grinder"

Title: Re: Dan Rather weighs in 11 Jun 2004 05:04:53 PM
Another original thought brought to you by:
"Jafo" <a@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:3p7kc0ta8qv32fqnafpbsr5qascujkeibm@4ax.com...

As viewed from alt.california, Grinder wrote:

"It is an obscene comparison - you know I am not sure I like it -
but you know there was a time in South Africa that people would
put flaming tyres around people's necks if they dissented. And
in some ways the fear is that you will be necklaced here, you
will have a flaming tyre of lack of patriotism put around your
neck. Now it is that fear that keeps journalists from asking the
toughest of the tough questions, and to continue to bore in on
the tough questions so often. And again, I am humbled to say,
I do not except myself from this criticism."

He declares himself a patriot, but for him the essence of being
American is being able to bring the government to account: "It's
unpatriotic not to stand up, look them in the eye, and ask the
questions they don't want to hear - they being those who have the
responsibility, the ultimate responsibility in a society such as
ours, of sending our sons and daughters, our husbands, wives, our
blood, to face death, to take death. Now, in my position my view
is not to ask the tough questions in this kind of environment is
the height of lack of patriotism."


"What's the frequency, Kenneth?"

--
Jafo

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