| Topic: |
Politics > Politics-USA |
| User: |
"Defendario" |
| Date: |
01 Aug 2006 07:44:31 PM |
| Object: |
'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
*Inter Press Service*
Dahr Jamail
*
QANA, Aug 1 (IPS) - Red Cross workers and residents of Qana, where
Israeli bombing killed at least 60 civilians, have told IPS that no
Hezbollah rockets were launched from the city before the Israeli air
strike. *
The Israeli military has said it bombed the building in which several
people had taken shelter, more than half of them children, because the
Army had faced rocket fire from Qana. The Israeli military has said that
Hezbollah was therefore responsible for the deaths.
"There were no Hezbollah rockets fired from here," 32-year-old Ali Abdel
told IPS. "Anyone in this village will tell you this, because it is the
truth."
Abdel had taken shelter in a nearby house when the shelter was bombed at
1 am. When the bombings finally let up in the morning, he went back to
the bombed shelter to search for relatives.
He found his 70-year-old father and 64-year-old mother both dead inside.
"They bombed it, and afterwards I heard the screams of women, children,
and a few men -- they were crying for help. But then one minute after
the first bomb, another bomb struck, and after this there was nothing
but silence, and the sound of more bombs around the village."
Masen Hashen, a 30-year-old construction worker from Qana who lost
several family members in the air strike on the shelter, said there were
no Hezbollah rockets fired from his village. "Because if they had done
that now, or in the past, all of us would have left. Because we know we
would be bombed."
Qana had been a shelter because no rockets were being fired from there,
survivors said. "When Hezbollah fires their rockets, everyone runs away
because they know an Israeli bombardment will come soon," Abdel said.
"That is why everyone stayed in the shelter and nearby homes, because we
all thought we'd be all right since there were no Hezbollah fighters in
Qana."
Lebanese Red Cross workers in the nearby coastal city of Tyre told IPS
that there was no basis for Israeli claims that Hezbollah had launched
rockets from Qana.
"We found no evidence of Hezbollah fighters in Qana," Kassem Shaulan, a
28-year-old medic and training manager for the Red Cross in Tyre told
IPS at their headquarters. "When we rescue people or recover bodies from
villages, we usually see rocket launchers or Hezbollah fighters if they
are there, but in Qana I can say that the village was 100 percent clear
of either of those."
Another Red Cross worker, 32-year-old Mohammad Zatar, told IPS that "we
can tell when Hezbollah has been firing rockets from certain areas,
because all of the people run away, on foot if they have to."
While IPS was interviewing people in Qana at the site of the shelter
Monday, Israeli warplanes roared overhead. Vibrations from nearby
bombing rattled many buildings. At least three villages in southern
Lebanon were attacked in Israeli air strikes Monday.
Following the international outcry over the air strike, Israel declared
a 48-hour cessation of air strikes in order to carry out a military
probe into the Qana killings.
Despite the false Israeli statement that it was halting its air strikes,
Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon told Army Radio that the stoppage
"does not signify in any way the end to the war."
Israel has rejected mounting international pressure to end the
20-day-old war against Hezbollah. The United Nations has indefinitely
postponed a meeting on a new peacekeeping force for southern Lebanon.
While defending the Israeli air strike on the civilians in Qana,
Israel's ambassador to the United Nations Dan Gillerman told the UN
Security Council that Qana was "a hub for Hezbollah", and said that
Israel had urged villagers to leave.
Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres said in reply to questions in
New York Monday that the bombing was "totally, totally its (Hezbollah's)
fault."
More writing, commentary, photography, pictures and images at http://dahrjamailiraq.com
.
|
|
| User: "DoD" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
01 Aug 2006 08:09:19 PM |
|
|
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:4jab1aF6obcoU3@individual.net...
<snip stupid *****>
"Here is the president of terror," proclaims a Hizballah propaganda film
montage on Al-Manar television, showing the face of President Bush alongside
an American flag. As faces of dead and wounded children appear on the
screen, crude pictures of bombs rain down on the pictures, all of them
labeled "MADE IN AMERICA."
President George Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert have now gained
"most wanted" criminal status on Hizballah's television station, as the
terrorist organization escalates its anti-American and anti-Semitic
propaganda. While Bush, Olmert, Israel, America, Jews, and most Westerners
have always been frowned on by Hizballah, the messages of hate have deepened
noticeably in the last week as Hizballah has come under greater military
pressure.
Hizballah's main propaganda arm, al-Manar television, has begun featuring
video clips of Olmert saying, "[W]e believe in our struggle because no
struggle is more moral." Out of nowhere, a Nazi swastika armband appears on
Olmert's right arm and, through the miracle of television, Olmert, whose
words are translated from Hebrew into Arabic, suddenly grows a Hitler-like
mustache.
Similarly, a Hizballah commentator, identified as "Professor Ramouda,"
offered this take on Israel: "Israel is not a country, but rather a military
base built on the principle of racism. They are using all the techniques
used by the Nazis."
To those who are familiar with Hizballah's television, radio and Internet
eructations, the charge of being a Nazi is somewhat out of charcter, because
Hizballah daily features its uniformed terrorists marching in Nazi-like
goose-step and using the familiar open-palm "zig-heil" salute. At the same
time, al-Manar screens a relentless barrage of anti-Semitic propaganda.
Two days before the deaths of 27 Lebanese in the collapse of a building-used
as a Hizballah rocket warehouse-al-Manar launched an unusually anti-Semitic
attack on Israel when a featured commentator claimed that Jews were
instructed to kill women and children. "What does their Torah say: it says
kill all men, women and children and even animals," said the Hizballah
commentator, Ghassan Matar, identified as a former member of the Lebanese
parliament. "That is what their Israeli Zionist god, their racist god
'Yahweh' orders them," sneered the gray-haired Matar, gesturing broadly with
his hands. Matar, who was wearing tinted eye glasses and a short-sleeved
yellow jacket, said that Israeli conquest of some villages in southern
Lebanon would not bring it victory.
Al-Manar is also known for broadcasting programs based on the "Protocols of
the Elders of Zion"-an anti-Semitic tract first developed by the Russian
Czars and then distributed by the Soviets.
The growing anti-Jewish and anti-American assaults on al-Manar may be
indicative of tension felt by Hizballah personnel in recent days. This would
explain why the anti-American message has also been escalated as Hizballah
emphasizes the "American role" in regional events, perhaps as an explanation
for why things have not gone as well as Hizballah hoped.
"Land is not the most important factor, but rather the spirit of the
people," declared a strategic commentator identified as Dr. Col. Amin
Akhtai, interviewed on the television station that until now has been
bragging about battlefield successes. Dr. Akhtai said that Hizballah was not
concerned about loss of terrain, because "perhaps the remaining terrain is
better suited for defense." Most telling about his remarks was the fact that
he prefaced them with a lengthy and uncharacteristic eulogy to "those heroes
who have become martyrs in the defense of Lebanon."
Israel regards al-Manar television as a potent propaganda force, but the IDF
has so far failed to knock it off the air though it has caused obvious
damage to Hizballah's broadcast product-interruptions and drops in the
quality of broadcasting. But Hizballah's propaganda is still potent, and it
is a complicated mix of psychological warfare, part of which is aimed at the
Lebanese population, part at the broader Arab audience, and partly at
Israelis, trying to demoralize them. There is still a bragging tone to much
of the Hizballah broadcasts-including phony claims of sinking two Israeli
missile boats and shooting down an Israeli fighter jet.
Still, there are many signs of Hizballah stress, including growing calls for
Arab aid, international intervention and ceasefire. Facing growing criticism
at home in Lebanon for the destruction of southern Lebanon, Hizballah is
also draping itself, literally, in Lebanese flags and Lebanese nationalism,
and pretending that it is looking out for Lebanese interests.
These messages of distress are beamed throughout the Arab world by Al-Manar'
s satellite broadcast, and many parallel messages are relayed by Al-Jazeera,
the Gulf-based satellite TV channel, that echoes Al-Manar's pan-Arab and
Pan-Islamic messages.
One suspects that the anti-American and anti-UN riots and demonstrations in
some Arab capitals have to do not so much with Arabs upset at pictures of
dead Lebanese civilians but rather with the increasing militant Arab outrage
as "the Arab street" begins to sense the truth: Hizballah still has some
rockets, but Israel has killed hundreds--over 400 by Israel's count--of
Hizballah's estimated 700 active fighters in southern Lebanon.
The Palestinian media and many Israeli Arabs have echoed Hizballah's
political messages, including the media of the Palestinian Authority (PA),
controlled by Mahmoud Abbas, which receives millions of dollars in American
aid. Nazir al-Ghul, anchorman of Voice of Palestine radio, began morning
broadcasts this week with a condemnation of American transfers of precision
laser-guided bombs to Israel.
The change in the Abbas regime's view of America is not unexpected, because
Abbas and his Fatah movement have-for more than a week, at least-been
supporting the killing and kidnapping of Israeli soldiers as a legitimate
form of "resistance." A cartoon in the Abbas-controlled Fatah newspaper
Al-Hayat al-Jadida this week depicted an Arab holding up a bandaged hand in
a sign of victory in which the fingers were kidnapped Israeli soldiers.
The stridently anti-Israeli and anti-American attitude of the supposedly
moderate Abbas regime has been largely ignored or excused by Israeli policy
makers and Israeli army intelligence analysts (such as former intelligence
chief Aharon Ze'evi-Farkash) since Abbas publicly referred to Israel as "al'
udu al-sihyouni"-the Zionist enemy-during his election campaign a year and a
half ago.
For their part, the Palestinians make no attempt to hide their delight at
the deaths of Israelis in or near Lebanon. Al-Ayyam, a Palestinian paper
controlled by Abbas's Fatah movement, had a cartoon this week that showed an
explosive mine-shaped like Lebanon-waiting to blow up an Israeli naval
vessel. The largest Palestinian newspaper, Al-Quds, which is also vetted by
Abbas and the PA, has featured several cartoons this week showing Israelis
burying themselves in a grave marked Lebanon or in quicksand marked Lebanon,
and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert being hung out to dry on a clothesline.
A similar message also appears on Al-Manar. "Notice how scared and confused
they are," noted a Hizballah commentator Friday afternoon to his colleague
as they reviewed films from Israeli television showing bloodied Israelis
against the background of destroyed buildings in Haifa and Nahariya Israel.
Both Palestinian and Hizballah criticism of American diplomatic support for
Israel is clear in cartoons in both the Lebanese and Palestinian press. Some
of these cartoons have a distinct racist or sexist tone, but one of the
tamer cartoons, below, shows Condoleeza Rice seeing the situation-the need
for a ceasefire-backwards through a telescope.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23632
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Jeffrey Krantz" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
04 Aug 2006 04:42:36 PM |
|
|
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:4jab1aF6obcoU3@individual.net...
*Inter Press Service*
Dahr Jamail
*
QANA, Aug 1 (IPS) - Red Cross workers and residents of Qana, where
Israeli bombing killed at least 60 civilians, have told IPS that no
Hezbollah rockets were launched from the city before the Israeli air
strike. *
And we should believe them and not our lying eyes. TOO BAD there is
videotape.
But a questiion: How did they get killed in a building while sleeping, when
the IDF planes hit the building seven hour prior to the collapse of the
building???
.
|
|
|
| User: "Defendario" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
04 Aug 2006 09:10:12 PM |
|
|
Jeffrey Krantz wrote:
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:4jab1aF6obcoU3@individual.net...
*Inter Press Service*
Dahr Jamail
*
QANA, Aug 1 (IPS) - Red Cross workers and residents of Qana, where
Israeli bombing killed at least 60 civilians, have told IPS that no
Hezbollah rockets were launched from the city before the Israeli air
strike. *
And we should believe them and not our lying eyes. TOO BAD there is
videotape.
I haven't seen any videotape that shows Qana, with date, time and GPS.
No one here believes your zioShill *****, Jeffy.
Tell it to some schmuck.
But a questiion: How did they get killed in a building while sleeping, when
the IDF planes hit the building seven hour prior to the collapse of the
building???
Put the crack pipe down, Jeffy. You are attacking your own straw man,
not anything I posit.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Jeffrey Krantz" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
04 Aug 2006 11:00:43 PM |
|
|
I haven't seen any videotape that shows Qana, with date, time and GPS.
Obviously this is Howeird again,. but no matter
It was on CNN
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "milou" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
04 Aug 2006 05:43:52 PM |
|
|
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:42:36 GMT, "Jeffrey Krantz" <drref@si.rr.com>
wrote:
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:4jab1aF6obcoU3@individual.net...
*Inter Press Service*
Dahr Jamail
*
QANA, Aug 1 (IPS) - Red Cross workers and residents of Qana, where
Israeli bombing killed at least 60 civilians, have told IPS that no
Hezbollah rockets were launched from the city before the Israeli air
strike. *
And we should believe them and not our lying eyes. TOO BAD there is
videotape.
But a questiion: How did they get killed in a building while sleeping, when
the IDF planes hit the building seven hour prior to the collapse of the
building???
The peace loving hizbollocks will tells us that the evil Israelis were
dropping illegal silent bombs with delayed action.
The media will lap it up. Can you imagine the headlines in the
Guardian and on CNN?
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Paulo Gomes Jardim" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
04 Aug 2006 11:25:53 PM |
|
|
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:42:36 +0100, Jeffrey Krantz <drref@si.rr.com> wrote:
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:4jab1aF6obcoU3@individual.net...
*Inter Press Service*
Dahr Jamail
*
QANA, Aug 1 (IPS) - Red Cross workers and residents of Qana, where
Israeli bombing killed at least 60 civilians, have told IPS that no
Hezbollah rockets were launched from the city before the Israeli air
strike. *
And we should believe them and not our lying eyes. TOO BAD there is
videotape.
The videotape depicts a scene without any distinctive mark, therefore it
could have been filmed anywere else. It would not be accepted as proof on
any court of the world worth of that name.
--
There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.
(Sun Tzu, The Art of War)
.
|
|
|
| User: "Jeffrey Krantz" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
05 Aug 2006 04:42:25 PM |
|
|
The videotape depicts a scene without any distinctive mark, therefore it
could have been filmed anywere else. It would not be accepted as proof on
any court of the world worth of that name.
Assuming arguendo you are correct. Neither would Hezbollah claims of a
massacre.
And the problem is that Israel has a track record of not lying. Arabs dont.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Ben Cramer" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
05 Aug 2006 07:56:24 PM |
|
|
"Jeffrey Krantz" <drref@si.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5h8Bg.1698$rI5.1328@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
The videotape depicts a scene without any distinctive mark, therefore it
could have been filmed anywere else. It would not be accepted as proof on
any court of the world worth of that name.
Assuming arguendo you are correct. Neither would Hezbollah claims of a
massacre.
And the problem is that Israel has a track record of not lying. Arabs
dont.
I do beg your pardon! Israel has a track record of doing nothing BUT lying.
I started taking notice when I discovered the "A land with no people for a
people with no land" statement. That's a pearler.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Bert Hyman" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
05 Aug 2006 04:50:10 PM |
|
|
In news:5h8Bg.1698$rI5.1328@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com "Jeffrey Krantz"
<drref@si.rr.com> wrote:
And the problem is that Israel has a track record of not lying. Arabs
dont.
Yipes! How come your head didn't burst into flames when that thought
came out of it?
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
.
|
|
|
| User: "Al Smith" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
05 Aug 2006 07:21:35 PM |
|
|
And the problem is that Israel has a track record of not lying. Arabs
dont.
Yipes! How come your head didn't burst into flames when that thought
came out of it?
I had to read it three times to believe that he wrote what he
wrote. "Israel has a track record of not lying." That is very
funny stuff. Book this guy in Vegas.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Bert Hyman" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
05 Aug 2006 06:40:28 PM |
|
|
In news:Xns9816AB5283D01VeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7 Bert Hyman
<bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
In news:5h8Bg.1698$rI5.1328@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com "Jeffrey Krantz"
<drref@si.rr.com> wrote:
And the problem is that Israel has a track record of not lying. Arabs
dont.
Yipes! How come your head didn't burst into flames when that thought
came out of it?
Oops. Looks like it's ->my head that burst into flames.
You did say "not", didn't you.
Gah...
It was the double negative that got me.
Yeah, that was it ...
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "zarqawi" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
05 Aug 2006 08:22:12 PM |
|
|
No rockets fired from Qana. So, what? Who gives a *****?
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Geno1234" |
|
| Title: Re: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana' |
01 Aug 2006 08:56:21 PM |
|
|
They never were ***** hole.
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:4jab1aF6obcoU3@individual.net...
*Inter Press Service*
Dahr Jamail
*
QANA, Aug 1 (IPS) - Red Cross workers and residents of Qana, where
Israeli bombing killed at least 60 civilians, have told IPS that no
Hezbollah rockets were launched from the city before the Israeli air
strike. *
The Israeli military has said it bombed the building in which several
people had taken shelter, more than half of them children, because the
Army had faced rocket fire from Qana. The Israeli military has said that
Hezbollah was therefore responsible for the deaths.
"There were no Hezbollah rockets fired from here," 32-year-old Ali Abdel
told IPS. "Anyone in this village will tell you this, because it is the
truth."
Abdel had taken shelter in a nearby house when the shelter was bombed at
1 am. When the bombings finally let up in the morning, he went back to
the bombed shelter to search for relatives.
He found his 70-year-old father and 64-year-old mother both dead inside.
"They bombed it, and afterwards I heard the screams of women, children,
and a few men -- they were crying for help. But then one minute after
the first bomb, another bomb struck, and after this there was nothing
but silence, and the sound of more bombs around the village."
Masen Hashen, a 30-year-old construction worker from Qana who lost
several family members in the air strike on the shelter, said there were
no Hezbollah rockets fired from his village. "Because if they had done
that now, or in the past, all of us would have left. Because we know we
would be bombed."
Qana had been a shelter because no rockets were being fired from there,
survivors said. "When Hezbollah fires their rockets, everyone runs away
because they know an Israeli bombardment will come soon," Abdel said.
"That is why everyone stayed in the shelter and nearby homes, because we
all thought we'd be all right since there were no Hezbollah fighters in
Qana."
Lebanese Red Cross workers in the nearby coastal city of Tyre told IPS
that there was no basis for Israeli claims that Hezbollah had launched
rockets from Qana.
"We found no evidence of Hezbollah fighters in Qana," Kassem Shaulan, a
28-year-old medic and training manager for the Red Cross in Tyre told
IPS at their headquarters. "When we rescue people or recover bodies from
villages, we usually see rocket launchers or Hezbollah fighters if they
are there, but in Qana I can say that the village was 100 percent clear
of either of those."
Another Red Cross worker, 32-year-old Mohammad Zatar, told IPS that "we
can tell when Hezbollah has been firing rockets from certain areas,
because all of the people run away, on foot if they have to."
While IPS was interviewing people in Qana at the site of the shelter
Monday, Israeli warplanes roared overhead. Vibrations from nearby
bombing rattled many buildings. At least three villages in southern
Lebanon were attacked in Israeli air strikes Monday.
Following the international outcry over the air strike, Israel declared
a 48-hour cessation of air strikes in order to carry out a military
probe into the Qana killings.
Despite the false Israeli statement that it was halting its air strikes,
Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon told Army Radio that the stoppage
"does not signify in any way the end to the war."
Israel has rejected mounting international pressure to end the
20-day-old war against Hezbollah. The United Nations has indefinitely
postponed a meeting on a new peacekeeping force for southern Lebanon.
While defending the Israeli air strike on the civilians in Qana,
Israel's ambassador to the United Nations Dan Gillerman told the UN
Security Council that Qana was "a hub for Hezbollah", and said that
Israel had urged villagers to leave.
Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres said in reply to questions in
New York Monday that the bombing was "totally, totally its (Hezbollah's)
fault."
More writing, commentary, photography, pictures and images at
http://dahrjamailiraq.com
.
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
