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House Passes Permanent Estate Tax Repeal
By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, April 14, 2005
The House voted 272 to 162 yesterday to permanently repeal the estate tax,
throwing the issue to the Senate where negotiations have begun on a deep and
permanent estate tax cut that can pass this year, even if it falls short of
full repeal.
The House vote pitted repeal proponents, who held that a tax on inheritances
is fundamentally unfair, against Democrats, who questioned how Congress
could support a tax cut largely for the affluent that would cost $290
billion over 10 years, in the face of record budget deficits.
"This is reverse Robin Hood," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi
(D-Calif.). "We're taking money from the middle class and giving it to the
super-rich."
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A50961-2005Apr13?language=printer
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"Those seeking profits," Jefferson wrote, "were they given total freedom,
would not be the ones to trust to keep government pure and our rights
secure. Indeed, it has always been those seeking wealth who were the source
of corruption in government. No other depositories of power have ever yet
been found, which did not end in converting to their own profit the earnings
of those committed to their charge."
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0618-03.htm
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17 Apr 2005 01:38:12 PM |
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"Black Elk" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1113609590.8431288af63679d34d20b6548963be59@teranews...
House Passes Permanent Estate Tax Repeal
By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, April 14, 2005
The House voted 272 to 162 yesterday to permanently repeal the estate tax,
throwing the issue to the Senate where negotiations have begun on a deep
and permanent estate tax cut that can pass this year, even if it falls
short of full repeal.
The House vote pitted repeal proponents, who held that a tax on
inheritances is fundamentally unfair, against Democrats, who questioned
how Congress could support a tax cut largely for the affluent that would
cost $290 billion over 10 years, in the face of record budget deficits.
"This is reverse Robin Hood," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi
(D-Calif.). "We're taking money from the middle class and giving it to the
super-rich."
Wonderful. Then when I'm dead I can give my money away and the govt won't
get it like they do while I'm alive.
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| User: "Werner Hetzner" |
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| Title: Re: No money for armor or deficit reduction--- but plenty for anothertax cut. |
15 Apr 2005 09:42:14 PM |
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Black Elk wrote:
House Passes Permanent Estate Tax Repeal
By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, April 14, 2005
The House voted 272 to 162 yesterday to permanently repeal the estate tax,
throwing the issue to the Senate where negotiations have begun on a deep and
permanent estate tax cut that can pass this year, even if it falls short of
full repeal.
The House vote pitted repeal proponents, who held that a tax on inheritances
is fundamentally unfair, against Democrats, who questioned how Congress
could support a tax cut largely for the affluent that would cost $290
billion over 10 years, in the face of record budget deficits.
"This is reverse Robin Hood," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi
(D-Calif.). "We're taking money from the middle class and giving it to the
super-rich."
-snip-
You have to expect that from Pelosi. Tax and spend. Go after the rich.
After all, they are outnumbered and have fewer votes. A grade school kid
could figure that arithmetic.
But once the rich outsource themselves to China, who will be left to
tax? Their money is already heading in that direction. Maybe she can
persuade the UN to tax the Chinese so she can buy votes at home, but I
don't think it will work out that way. Perhaps the middle class and poor
can find work in capital frindly China like they found work in once
capital friendly America before taxation overtook the country.
Pelosi should concentrate on anything it should be to lower taxes and
regulations. I sometimes wonder why Democrats never seem to notice
people choose to flee Democrat run cities or reasons. Even Democrats do
that. I met one this evening who lives in Republican suburbs while
talking about how money should be kept "in the communty". Evidently he
makes an exception of his money in the Democrat community.
Who can respect such people besides other Democrats?
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15 Apr 2005 11:04:02 PM |
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"Werner Hetzner" <whetzner@mac.com> wrote in message
news:42607B8D.7010105@mac.com...
Black Elk wrote:
House Passes Permanent Estate Tax Repeal
By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, April 14, 2005
The House voted 272 to 162 yesterday to permanently repeal the estate tax,
throwing the issue to the Senate where negotiations have begun on a deep
and permanent estate tax cut that can pass this year, even if it falls
short of full repeal.
The House vote pitted repeal proponents, who held that a tax on
inheritances is fundamentally unfair, against Democrats, who questioned
how Congress could support a tax cut largely for the affluent that would
cost $290 billion over 10 years, in the face of record budget deficits.
"This is reverse Robin Hood," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi
(D-Calif.). "We're taking money from the middle class and giving it to the
super-rich."
-snip-
You have to expect that from Pelosi. Tax and spend. Go after the rich.
After all, they are outnumbered and have fewer votes. A grade school kid
could figure that arithmetic.
I don't see where she says take money away from the rich, she says leave it
with the middle class.
But once the rich outsource themselves to China, who will be left to tax?
They've already done that.
Their money is already heading in that direction.
It has been for a long time and it isn't because of taxation, it's because
of greed.
Maybe she can
persuade the UN to tax the Chinese so she can buy votes at home, but I
don't think it will work out that way. Perhaps the middle class and poor
can find work in capital frindly China like they found work in once
capital friendly America before taxation overtook the country.
Corporate America sells out the working middle-class to Communist China and
you are a big enough sleeze artist to blame Democrats. Go figure.
Pelosi should concentrate on anything it should be to lower taxes and
regulations. I sometimes wonder why Democrats never seem to notice people
choose to flee Democrat run cities or reasons.
Answer me this, why does a Democratic state like MA have the highest per
capita income and the most prestigious universities in the U.S.?
I don't expect an answer from you troll man.
Even Democrats do
that. I met one this evening who lives in Republican suburbs while talking
about how money should be kept "in the communty". Evidently he makes an
exception of his money in the Democrat community.
Who can respect such people besides other Democrats?
You and your ilk are traitors of the lowest caliber. You belong in prison
where you're prevented from bilking the working class out of their jobs,
wages and benefits.
--
"Those seeking profits," Jefferson wrote, "were they given total freedom,
would not be the ones to trust to keep government pure and our rights
secure. Indeed, it has always been those seeking wealth who were the source
of corruption in government. No other depositories of power have ever yet
been found, which did not end in converting to their own profit the earnings
of those committed to their charge."
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0618-03.htm
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| User: "Werner Hetzner" |
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16 Apr 2005 09:52:33 AM |
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Black Elk wrote:
"Werner Hetzner" <whetzner@mac.com> wrote in message
news:42607B8D.7010105@mac.com...
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"This is reverse Robin Hood," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi
(D-Calif.). "We're taking money from the middle class and giving it to the
super-rich."
-snip-
You have to expect that from Pelosi. Tax and spend. Go after the rich.
After all, they are outnumbered and have fewer votes. A grade school kid
could figure that arithmetic.
I don't see where she says take money away from the rich, she says leave it
with the middle class.
You don't see much of anything that you don't want to see.
But once the rich outsource themselves to China, who will be left to tax?
They've already done that.
Well, now you may be catching on.
Their money is already heading in that direction.
It has been for a long time and it isn't because of taxation, it's because
of greed.
Yes, Pelosi's greed. And people like her. Those who want a free lunch on
someone else's dime.
Maybe she can
persuade the UN to tax the Chinese so she can buy votes at home, but I
don't think it will work out that way. Perhaps the middle class and poor
can find work in capital frindly China like they found work in once
capital friendly America before taxation overtook the country.
Corporate America sells out the working middle-class to Communist China and
you are a big enough sleeze artist to blame Democrats. Go figure.
Some day you notice a connection between Democrats and voting with your
feet. It is all around you. You just have to open your eyes.
Corporate America is not obligated to anyone. Any American is not
obligated to any other American. If this were not so I could make you
obligated to me.
Pelosi should concentrate on anything it should be to lower taxes and
regulations. I sometimes wonder why Democrats never seem to notice people
choose to flee Democrat run cities or reasons.
Answer me this, why does a Democratic state like MA have the highest per
capita income and the most prestigious universities in the U.S.?
Does this mean you have not noticed the flight form Democrat cities? The
universities were there before FDR. Most of those attending Boston
universities are not from Boston. The univrsities in Boston were not
created by the Democrat political machine. And once students graduate
from them they leave Boston.
I don't expect an answer from you troll man.
Even Democrats do
that. I met one this evening who lives in Republican suburbs while talking
about how money should be kept "in the communty". Evidently he makes an
exception of his money in the Democrat community.
Who can respect such people besides other Democrats?
You and your ilk are traitors of the lowest caliber. You belong in prison
where you're prevented from bilking the working class out of their jobs,
wages and benefits.
You fucking idiot. I am one of the working class. I have never owned a
new car. I even live in a Democrat city, while a lot of Democrats prefer
to live in the surrounding Republican suburbs. I live here not because I
like Democrat government, which I don't, but because I got a good house
for what I can afford because those with more money wouldn't want to buy
it because it's in a dying Democrat city. Taxes are too high and going
up while the services are going down. The schools suck. The water is
expensive, and I can't be sure it's all that good.
I exploited the fact that a lack of demand made the place relatively
cheap to buy. I bought the view (right on a river) and the house (old,
very nice wood interior), not the Democrat government or what it does.
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