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Politics > Politics-USA |
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"GunWoman" |
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30 Jul 2005 03:24:15 PM |
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NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
It's time to draw a line in the sand! NRA just passed that
lawsuit bill yesterday while giving away even more of our human
rights!
I left the NRA years ago and a little over a year ago, people
encouraged me to rejoin and "try to change it from within" but I
see that won't work now, it can't, because the board members have
changed the rules to keep themselves in power and ensure that
serious RKBA advocates can't run the org, while they continue to
slowly give our human rights away.
I'm fed up. Never again!
I'm no longer a member, I won't even renew that paltry $10 trial
membership I tried for a year.
They just gave more of our human rights away by agreeing to
require gun locks to be sold with every gun in the U.S. now,
which will surely be just like the seat belt laws. First they
required seat belts, then that they be used. Sure as the sun
rises, we WILL be required to lock up all our guns at all times,
at some future date. Thanks NRA!
So being I'm no longer even a trial member, I've given up most
hope for the organization. So I just changed the group
description and title at the NRA changing group I had before, to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NRA_CHANGE/
You no longer have to be a member to join. I'll be advocating the
change from the outside from now on, as the new group description
says!
I'd urge everyone to support GOA exclusively instead. If everyone
did that and GOA got a few million members that the NRA lost,
maybe NRA would quit the legislative efforts and leave that to
GOA that does it best, with NO COMPROMISE.
The NRA should get out of the human rights surrender business,
which is all they do, and focus on education, information and
training, which they've always been great at. I won't EVER rejoin
as long as they remain in the human rights surrender business!
NEVER AGAIN!
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GunWoman - Armed and Safer in the USA
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| User: "©hri§tÇræm® " |
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| Title: Re: NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
31 Jul 2005 03:32:59 AM |
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It's time to draw a line in the sand!
Start a new group. ***** em. Take all their customers.
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©hri§tÇræm®
"The power of Cream compels you."
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| User: "Bert Hyman" |
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| Title: Re: NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
30 Jul 2005 03:31:42 PM |
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In news:Xns96A39290733DEGunWomangunsnotspamc@216.196.97.142 GunWoman
<GunWoman@guns-notspam.com> wrote:
It's time to draw a line in the sand! NRA just passed that
lawsuit bill yesterday while giving away even more of our human
rights!
If you're going to take an "all or nothing" position, be prepared for
nothing, if not less.
Good luck.
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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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| User: "GunWoman" |
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| Title: Re: NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
30 Jul 2005 05:15:11 PM |
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Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote :
In news:Xns96A39290733DEGunWomangunsnotspamc@216.196.97.142
GunWoman
<GunWoman@guns-notspam.com> wrote:
It's time to draw a line in the sand! NRA just passed that
lawsuit bill yesterday while giving away even more of our
human rights!
If you're going to take an "all or nothing" position, be
prepared for nothing, if not less.
Good luck.
Be prepared for nothing anyway, that's where the NRA is leading
you!
--
GunWoman - Armed and Safer in the USA
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| User: "Trumpet" |
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| Title: Re: NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
30 Jul 2005 06:23:49 PM |
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Oh Baby,
I love it when yer pissed. The state of High Dudgeon, color rising in your
face. Feels Great!!
Now the ride is over, pull yer head out of yer ***** and listen:
There is no "human" right to guns.
As citizens of the U.S. we have a constitutional right bear arms. This is
no fashion a human right. There are plenty of humans who do not have this
right, but that does not mean it is a human right
Learn the Lingo, so you can stop looking like a dumb *****.
besides, If God wanted everyone to have a gun, he'd have made our index
fingers into .357's..
Trumpet
"GunWoman" <GunWoman@guns-notspam.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96A39290733DEGunWomangunsnotspamc@216.196.97.142...
It's time to draw a line in the sand! NRA just passed that
lawsuit bill yesterday while giving away even more of our human
rights!
I left the NRA years ago and a little over a year ago, people
encouraged me to rejoin and "try to change it from within" but I
see that won't work now, it can't, because the board members have
changed the rules to keep themselves in power and ensure that
serious RKBA advocates can't run the org, while they continue to
slowly give our human rights away.
I'm fed up. Never again!
I'm no longer a member, I won't even renew that paltry $10 trial
membership I tried for a year.
They just gave more of our human rights away by agreeing to
require gun locks to be sold with every gun in the U.S. now,
which will surely be just like the seat belt laws. First they
required seat belts, then that they be used. Sure as the sun
rises, we WILL be required to lock up all our guns at all times,
at some future date. Thanks NRA!
So being I'm no longer even a trial member, I've given up most
hope for the organization. So I just changed the group
description and title at the NRA changing group I had before, to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NRA_CHANGE/
You no longer have to be a member to join. I'll be advocating the
change from the outside from now on, as the new group description
says!
I'd urge everyone to support GOA exclusively instead. If everyone
did that and GOA got a few million members that the NRA lost,
maybe NRA would quit the legislative efforts and leave that to
GOA that does it best, with NO COMPROMISE.
The NRA should get out of the human rights surrender business,
which is all they do, and focus on education, information and
training, which they've always been great at. I won't EVER rejoin
as long as they remain in the human rights surrender business!
NEVER AGAIN!
--
GunWoman - Armed and Safer in the USA
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| User: "GunWoman" |
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| Title: Re: NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
30 Jul 2005 06:48:58 PM |
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"Trumpet" <probin1@comcast.net> wrote :
Oh Baby,
I love it when yer pissed. The state of High Dudgeon, color
rising in your face. Feels Great!!
Now the ride is over, pull yer head out of yer ***** and listen:
There is no "human" right to guns.
Yes there is, you're a liar.
As citizens of the U.S. we have a constitutional right bear
arms. This is no fashion a human right.
huÆman rightsÆ,
fundamental rights, esp. those believed to belong to an
individual and in whose exercise a government may not interfere,
as the rights to speak, associate, work, etc.
[1785–95]
Notice that all the ones mentioned are also RECOGNIZED in our
Bill of Rights, which is indeed a Bill of Human Rights.
There are plenty of
humans who do not have this right, but that does not mean it
is a human right
Huh?
Learn the Lingo, so you can stop looking like a dumb *****.
You're the dumb *****, you cocksucking weasel socialist!
besides, If God wanted everyone to have a gun, he'd have made
our index fingers into .357's..
East ***** and die!
--
GunWoman - Armed and Safer in the USA
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| User: "Bert Hyman" |
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| Title: Re: NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
30 Jul 2005 06:30:23 PM |
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In news:ucWdnYAdEtxnlnHfRVn-iQ@comcast.com "Trumpet" <probin1@comcast.net>
wrote:
There is no "human" right to guns.
Sure there is. Guns are just property. You have as much right to own and
use a gun as you do a computer or a house.
As citizens of the U.S. we have a constitutional right bear arms.
The 2nd Amendment is just a reminder to the Federal government that it
shouldn't violate that right.
This is no fashion a human right.
You're confusing human rights with words on a piece of paper.
There are plenty of humans who do not have this
right, but that does not mean it is a human right
There are plenty of humans who have all sorts of their rights violated by
various governments. This does not mean that they don't have those rights.
Just because you can be killed doesn't mean that you have no right to
live.
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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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| User: "The Chief" |
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| Title: Re: NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
04 Aug 2005 03:15:35 PM |
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Wrong - all humans have the right to defend themselves - some states
(nations) allow them to do so with the most efficient tool, some don't.
That one is not allowed to exercise a right doesn't change the fact that
the right exists.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
30 Jul 2005 03:56:33 PM |
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Watch out: some of our regular posters like "boycott" Bob or "native
american" Babs will question your patriotism for raising these
points...
Because, you see, obviously being American is having the possibility to
kill anyone who gets too close to your home.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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| Title: Re: NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
30 Jul 2005 06:31:12 PM |
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"Parsifal" <jean-pascal.vachon@chello.at> wrote in message
news:1122756993.767958.134640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Watch out: some of our regular posters like "boycott" Bob or "native
american" Babs will question your patriotism for raising these
points...
Because, you see, obviously being American is having the possibility to
kill anyone who gets too close to your home.
NOPE. It's having the CAPABILITY to defend your home, your family, your
property from intruders who wish to remove od do harm to your home, your
family, your possessions.
-*MORT*-
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
31 Jul 2005 04:01:01 AM |
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Why are so worried to be attacked?
Why are Americans so paranoid?
I am almost 40 years old. I've lived the last 18 years of my life in
cities with more than 2 million of population (not in the USA though).
We can take the subway anytime and can walk anywhere.
Guess what: my first encounter with crime happened a month ago when my
apartment was broken in while my wife and I were away. What would
having a gun done to this situation? Nothing, since I wasn't there. And
let's say I would have caught them: would I have used a gun as
retaliation for a laptop, a digital camera and an iPod? Gee, we're
talking about pieces of plastic against human life here!!!! Of course I
was upset, of course I would gladly kicked them but then what?!? Do
these person deserve to die?
Can I consider that as having my home being "attacked"?
Obviously, the value of a human life is not very high in the USA. Well,
that's no surprise considering their history...
I
Of course not.
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| User: "Lynn K. Circle" |
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| Title: Re: NO MORE NRA HUMAN RIGHTS SURRENDER! |
30 Jul 2005 04:45:05 PM |
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"Parsifal" <jean-pascal.vachon@chello.at> wrote in message
news:1122756993.767958.134640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Watch out: some of our regular posters like "boycott" Bob or "native
american" Babs will question your patriotism for raising these
points...
Because, you see, obviously being American is having the possibility to
kill anyone who gets too close to your home.
Nice try at pure ingenousness. Being American is having the right to
protect yourself and your family. We consider someone who breaks into your
house a very real threat. We believe that if you legally own your
possessions, you have the right to use force to stop someone else from
taking them away from you. Yes, the force allowed does include shooting
someone who has broken into your house to burglarize it. Compare this to
Britain where any homeowner who injures a thief in the course of trying to
prevent the burglary of his own residence himself becomes a criminal for
having caused that injury. "Poor burglar!" saith British law.
American law does NOT permit you to kill the burglar or anyone else. It
simply allows you to defend yourself. If a criminal happens to die as a
result of a justified defense, too bad and small loss. But if the homeowner
can be shown to have deliberately killed a burglar, especially one who was
shot in the back or in the head after already being incapacitated, that
homeowner is facing murder charges.
Lynn K.Circle
NRA, TSRA,American Legion
Happily Jewish
American and Proud to Be One
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