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"PERVERTED PUGS" |
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01 Oct 2006 10:35:33 AM |
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No Mr. Bush, Pakistan IS NOT Soverign |
Seize Thee Ruthless King!
by Christopher Brauchli
Ruin seize thee ruthless King!
Confusion on thy banners wait
Though fanned by Conquest's crimson wing
They mock the air with idle state. -- Thomas Gray, The Bard
It's been kind of confusing what with Pervez Musharraf being in
Washington eagerly awaiting the publication of his book (and also getting to
see George Bush), the F-16s being almost ready for delivery and George Bush
getting confused and actually thinking for a brief time that Pakistan was a
sovereign nation. It all started the week before Mr. Musharraf came to
Washington.
It was during that week that Mr. Bush said that Pakistan was a
sovereign nation. It happened at a press conference in which he was asked
why he opposed sending troops into Pakistan to look for Osama bin Laden.
Explaining his opposition he said: "First of all, Pakistan is a sovereign
nation. In order for us to send thousands of troops into a sovereign nation,
we've got to be invited by the government of Pakistan." (No one asked him
whether Iraq had been a sovereign nation before it became a Bush fiefdom.)
Pakistan remained a sovereign nation (in Mr. Bush's mind) until the next
week when, asked what he'd do if Osama bin Laden or a high ranking al-Qaida
leader was found in Pakistan Mr. Bush said he would "absolutely " order U.S.
military strikes on targets inside Pakistan. In less than a week Pakistan
had ceased to be a sovereign nation. Unaware of his country's loss of
sovereignty, Mr. Musharraf said, "We wouldn't like to allow that at all. We
will do it ourselves."
The week grew even stranger when, in an interview on CBS's 60 Minutes
in which Mr. Musharraf was promoting his book that went on sale two days
after the broadcast, he revealed that right after 9/11 Deputy Secretary of
State, Richard Armitage, told Mr. Musharraf that if he failed to cooperate
with the United States in its hunt for Osama bin Laden, the United States
would bomb Pakistan back into the Stone Age.
Before 9/11, Pakistan had been one of very few countries that had
diplomatic ties with the Taliban. Not wanting to return to the Stone Age,
Pakistan promptly broke off relations with the Taliban and Mr. Musharraf
became one of Mr. Bush's good friends. Mr. Armitage, of course, denied he'd
ever threatened Pakistan and Mr. Musharraf declined to comment when asked
about the denial at a press briefing with Mr. Bush because, as he explained,
he was sworn to pre-publication secrecy by his publisher. That was quite
understandable.
Not being bombed back into the Stone-Age by a trigger happy Bush, was
not Mr. Musharraf's only reward for cutting off relations with the Taliban.
There was the obvious reward of having George Bush as a friend. During a
2004 Christmas time visit to the White House by Mr. Musharraf, Mr. Bush
said: "There is nobody more dedicated in the protection of his own people
than President Musharraf." Mr. Musharraf would have had to look long and
hard to find a Pakistani to make such a statement. And that was not his only
reward. Another was being permitted to buy a bunch of F-16 airplanes.
In the late 1980s the United States had promised to sell F-16s to
Pakistan but changed its mind after Pakistan had made a substantial down
payment. The planes were not delivered. A suit by Pakistan to recover its
down payment was eventually settled. In 2005, as a reward for Mr. Musharraf's
friendship, Pakistan was again told it could buy the planes. Until Mr.
Musharraf's most recent visit to Washington, it had been thought the deal
would be finalized any day. That has all changed.
On September 22, 2006, it was reported that Pakistan is having second
thoughts about the planes. That's because it has learned that the planes are
to be delivered without electronic warfare systems that are reportedly
"vital for real time monitoring". That means that the planes' radars are
only programmed to detect enemy aircraft that are non-NATO aircraft such as
China or India. If Pakistan gets into a war with a NATO country it would be
at a big disadvantage since its radar would not detect the presence of those
enemy aircraft. (What particular NATO country Pakistan thinks it might get
into a war with is unclear but Mr. Bush's friends have lots of ways of
surprising us.)
As a result of the disclosure of this omission of equipment, the
Pakistani weekly, Friday Times, said Pakistan's signing of the "letter of
acceptance" has been postponed. According to the Friday Times a Pakistani
official said: "So the signing deal is off. . . . . But the entire deal is
likely to spark much more debate and change before finalization." It's not
hard to see why. As I said at the outset, the week was confusing. Most weeks
under George's rule are.
For Christopher Brauchli's political commentary see his web page Human
Race and Other Sports. Email to:
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| User: "Amanda Williams" |
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| Title: Re: No Mr. Bush, Pakistan IS NOT Soverign |
01 Oct 2006 11:26:52 AM |
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"PERVERTED PUGS" <look@bush.net> allegedly said in
news:9fRTg.18550$Ij.6312@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
Seize Thee Ruthless King!
by Christopher Brauchli
Ruin seize thee ruthless King!
Confusion on thy banners wait
Though fanned by Conquest's crimson wing
They mock the air with idle state. -- Thomas Gray, The Bard
It's been kind of confusing what with Pervez Musharraf being in
Washington eagerly awaiting the publication of his book (and also
getting to see George Bush), the F-16s being almost ready for delivery
and George Bush getting confused and actually thinking for a brief
time that Pakistan was a sovereign nation. It all started the week
before Mr. Musharraf came to Washington.
It was during that week that Mr. Bush said that Pakistan was a
sovereign nation. It happened at a press conference in which he was
asked why he opposed sending troops into Pakistan to look for Osama
bin Laden. Explaining his opposition he said: "First of all, Pakistan
is a sovereign nation. In order for us to send thousands of troops
into a sovereign nation, we've got to be invited by the government of
Pakistan." (No one asked him whether Iraq had been a sovereign nation
before it became a Bush fiefdom.) Pakistan remained a sovereign nation
(in Mr. Bush's mind) until the next week when, asked what he'd do if
Osama bin Laden or a high ranking al-Qaida leader was found in
Pakistan Mr. Bush said he would "absolutely " order U.S. military
strikes on targets inside Pakistan. In less than a week Pakistan had
ceased to be a sovereign nation. Unaware of his country's loss of
sovereignty, Mr. Musharraf said, "We wouldn't like to allow that at
all. We will do it ourselves."
The week grew even stranger when, in an interview on CBS's 60
Minutes
in which Mr. Musharraf was promoting his book that went on sale two
days after the broadcast, he revealed that right after 9/11 Deputy
Secretary of State, Richard Armitage, told Mr. Musharraf that if he
failed to cooperate with the United States in its hunt for Osama bin
Laden, the United States would bomb Pakistan back into the Stone Age.
Before 9/11, Pakistan had been one of very few countries that
had
diplomatic ties with the Taliban. Not wanting to return to the Stone
Age, Pakistan promptly broke off relations with the Taliban and Mr.
Musharraf became one of Mr. Bush's good friends. Mr. Armitage, of
course, denied he'd ever threatened Pakistan and Mr. Musharraf
declined to comment when asked about the denial at a press briefing
with Mr. Bush because, as he explained, he was sworn to
pre-publication secrecy by his publisher. That was quite
understandable.
Not being bombed back into the Stone-Age by a trigger happy
Bush, was
not Mr. Musharraf's only reward for cutting off relations with the
Taliban. There was the obvious reward of having George Bush as a
friend. During a 2004 Christmas time visit to the White House by Mr.
Musharraf, Mr. Bush said: "There is nobody more dedicated in the
protection of his own people than President Musharraf." Mr. Musharraf
would have had to look long and hard to find a Pakistani to make such
a statement. And that was not his only reward. Another was being
permitted to buy a bunch of F-16 airplanes.
In the late 1980s the United States had promised to sell F-16s
to
Pakistan but changed its mind after Pakistan had made a substantial
down payment. The planes were not delivered. A suit by Pakistan to
recover its down payment was eventually settled. In 2005, as a reward
for Mr. Musharraf's friendship, Pakistan was again told it could buy
the planes. Until Mr. Musharraf's most recent visit to Washington, it
had been thought the deal would be finalized any day. That has all
changed.
On September 22, 2006, it was reported that Pakistan is having
second
thoughts about the planes. That's because it has learned that the
planes are to be delivered without electronic warfare systems that are
reportedly "vital for real time monitoring". That means that the
planes' radars are only programmed to detect enemy aircraft that are
non-NATO aircraft such as China or India. If Pakistan gets into a war
with a NATO country it would be at a big disadvantage since its radar
would not detect the presence of those enemy aircraft. (What
particular NATO country Pakistan thinks it might get into a war with
is unclear but Mr. Bush's friends have lots of ways of surprising us.)
As a result of the disclosure of this omission of equipment, the
Pakistani weekly, Friday Times, said Pakistan's signing of the "letter
of acceptance" has been postponed. According to the Friday Times a
Pakistani official said: "So the signing deal is off. . . . . But the
entire deal is likely to spark much more debate and change before
finalization." It's not hard to see why. As I said at the outset, the
week was confusing. Most weeks under George's rule are.
For Christopher Brauchli's political commentary see his web page
Human
Race and Other Sports. Email to:
###
Then there is the irony of little georgie babbling about "planting the
seeds of democracy" while back slapping with a military dictator who
overthrew a democratically elected government....
Of course an advanced concept like "irony" is way beyond the
comprehension of your average rightard drooler...
--
AW
<small but dangerous>
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| User: "Dana" |
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| Title: Re: No Mr. Bush, Pakistan IS NOT Soverign |
01 Oct 2006 04:17:58 PM |
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"PERVERTED PUGS" <look@bush.net> wrote in message
news:9fRTg.18550$Ij.6312@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
Seize Thee Ruthless King!
On September 22, 2006, it was reported that Pakistan is having
second
thoughts about the planes. That's because it has learned that the planes
are
to be delivered without electronic warfare systems that are reportedly
"vital for real time monitoring". That means that the planes' radars are
only programmed to detect enemy aircraft that are non-NATO aircraft such
as
China or India. If Pakistan gets into a war with a NATO country it would
be
at a big disadvantage since its radar would not detect the presence of
those
enemy aircraft. (What particular NATO country Pakistan thinks it might get
into a war with is unclear but Mr. Bush's friends have lots of ways of
surprising us.)
You have no idea how technically incorrect this is.
EW and Radar are two different systems.
Radar detects targets by sending out and receiving energy.
EW systems detect when your vehicle is being painted by such emissions from
outside sources.
EW systems can also jam and confuse Radar and IR type of detectors.
Hence by not having EW systems, that will not prevent the Radars from
detecting other Aircraft, including Nato Aircraft. Of course the stealth
planes would be a little different, as that is why they are called stealth
planes, our Radars cannot see them either.
And yes Pakistan is a sovereign nation.
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| User: "PERVERTED PUGS" |
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| Title: Re: No Mr. Bush, Pakistan IS NOT Soverign |
01 Oct 2006 04:39:09 PM |
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"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:12i0b63h89c2b0c@corp.supernews.com...
"PERVERTED PUGS" <look@bush.net> wrote in message
news:9fRTg.18550$Ij.6312@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
Seize Thee Ruthless King!
On September 22, 2006, it was reported that Pakistan is having
second
thoughts about the planes. That's because it has learned that the planes
are
to be delivered without electronic warfare systems that are reportedly
"vital for real time monitoring". That means that the planes' radars are
only programmed to detect enemy aircraft that are non-NATO aircraft such
as
China or India. If Pakistan gets into a war with a NATO country it would
be
at a big disadvantage since its radar would not detect the presence of
those
enemy aircraft. (What particular NATO country Pakistan thinks it might
get
into a war with is unclear but Mr. Bush's friends have lots of ways of
surprising us.)
You have no idea how technically incorrect this is.
EW and Radar are two different systems.
Radar detects targets by sending out and receiving energy.
EW systems detect when your vehicle is being painted by such emissions
from
outside sources.
EW systems can also jam and confuse Radar and IR type of detectors.
Hence by not having EW systems, that will not prevent the Radars from
detecting other Aircraft, including Nato Aircraft. Of course the stealth
planes would be a little different, as that is why they are called stealth
planes, our Radars cannot see them either.
And yes Pakistan is a sovereign nation.
Islamic Republic of Pakistan you meant?
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