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User: "Ken [NY"
Date: 06 Sep 2003 08:28:48 AM
Object: No Quagmire Here!
No Quagmire Here!
Ann Coulter
September 3, 2003
ANOTHER PRESIDENT began a war promising a "chance to test our weapons,
to try our energy and ideas and imagination for the many battles yet
to come." He said that as conditions change, "we will be prepared to
modify our strategy." The heralded modifications never came, nor did
an end to the war. President Lyndon Johnson's war on poverty turned
out to be a bigger quagmire than Vietnam. Would that the Democrats
would give the war in Iraq as much time to succeed as they are willing
to give the "War on Poverty," now entering its 40th year.
Instead of poor people with hope and possibility, we now have a
permanent underclass of aspiring criminals knifing one another between
having illegitimate children and collecting welfare checks. It is an
ironclad law of economics that if you want more of something,
subsidize it; if you want less of something, tax it. But liberals were
shocked and bewildered to discover that when they subsidized
illegitimacy, they got more of it.
The War on Poverty took a crisis-level illegitimacy rate among blacks
in the mid-1960s (22 percent) and tripled it to 69 percent. It
transformed a negligible illegitimacy rate among whites (2 percent) to
emergency proportions (22.5 percent) - higher than the black
illegitimacy rate when Daniel Patrick Moynihan heralded the War on
Poverty with his alarmist report on black families, "The Negro Family:
The Case for National Action." (Demonstrating the sort of on-the
job-training that has so impressed Hollywood elites, the state with
the second highest rate of white illegitimacy is Howard Dean's
Vermont.) Overall, the illegitimacy rate has skyrocketed from about 8
percent to 33.8 percent.
If George Bush's war on terrorism were to go as well as the Democrats'
war on poverty, in a few decades we could have four times as many
angry Muslims worldwide plotting terrorist violence against Americans.
Or how about an "exit strategy" for New York City's war on high rents?
Rent control was introduced as a temporary wartime measure during
World War II. Sixty years later, the Germans have been subdued - but
government bureaucrats in New York are still setting rents, leading to
the surplus of affordable housing for which the city is duly famous.
The anointed live in lush five-bedroom apartments in marquee buildings
for $350 a month while newcomers are forced to bid up the few units in
what's left of the housing market, paying thousands of dollars per
month to live in rat-infested tenements.
Justice Sandra Day O'Connor recently upheld a 25-year failed
experiment in race discrimination for college admissions. She breezily
announced a pull-out date of 2028. Liberals admired O'Connor's
Solomon-like resolution of a festering national problem and did not
concern themselves with the absence of an "exit strategy."
But George Bush - with the widespread support of the American people
and the U.S. Congress - acts to take out a lunatic supporting Islamic
terrorism, and within six months, all the Democratic presidential
candidates are clamoring for an "exit strategy." Bush should promise
the Democrats that there will be peace and democracy in Iraq long
before the Democrats conceive of an exit strategy to the war on
poverty, the war on high rents, and the war on white kids applying to
Michigan Law School.
The party of diversity is in lockstep in supporting all those idiotic
programs. They're working just great. But our servicemen come under
attack while clearing out a swamp of murderous fanatics who seek the
death of all Americans and the Democrats have had enough.
To be fair, encouraging Democrats to come up with new ideas is fraught
with danger. One Democrat who has recently demonstrated her
out-of-the-box thinking is Mattie Hunter, a Democratic state senator
in Illinois. (You knew she was a Democrat when the New York Times
neglected to provide a party affiliation.) After a fired employee
returned to the auto supply warehouse in Hunter's district to gun down
six of his former colleagues, she demanded an investigation into ...
the circumstances of the gunman's firing. "How did they do it?" she
said. "Did they just say, 'We're going to fire you'? Was it done
professionally? In today's day, everyone is under a lot of pressure.
When someone loses their job, it's a shock and tragedy in itself."
Perhaps Hunter could propose a War on Firing Employees. In 50 years,
69 percent of all employees will be shooting up their workplaces, but
the Democrats will urge patience in working out the bugs.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
reported in The Washington Times
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you’re gay.
.

User: "Mitchell Holman"

Title: Re: No Quagmire Here! 06 Sep 2003 08:56:28 AM
"Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> wrote in
news:67mjlvk08kahp0a4at1j7at7890glvg91q@4ax.com:

No Quagmire Here!
Ann Coulter
September 3, 2003

ANOTHER PRESIDENT began a war promising a "chance to test our weapons,
to try our energy and ideas and imagination for the many battles yet
to come." He said that as conditions change, "we will be prepared to
modify our strategy." The heralded modifications never came, nor did
an end to the war. President Lyndon Johnson's war on poverty turned
out to be a bigger quagmire than Vietnam. Would that the Democrats
would give the war in Iraq as much time to succeed as they are willing
to give the "War on Poverty," now entering its 40th year.

Instead of poor people with hope and possibility, we now have a
permanent underclass of aspiring criminals knifing one another between
having illegitimate children and collecting welfare checks. It is an
ironclad law of economics that if you want more of something,
subsidize it; if you want less of something, tax it. But liberals were
shocked and bewildered to discover that when they subsidized
illegitimacy, they got more of it.

The War on Poverty took a crisis-level illegitimacy rate among blacks
in the mid-1960s (22 percent) and tripled it to 69 percent. It
transformed a negligible illegitimacy rate among whites (2 percent) to
emergency proportions (22.5 percent) - higher than the black
illegitimacy rate when Daniel Patrick Moynihan heralded the War on
Poverty with his alarmist report on black families, "The Negro Family:
The Case for National Action." (Demonstrating the sort of on-the
job-training that has so impressed Hollywood elites, the state with
the second highest rate of white illegitimacy is Howard Dean's
Vermont.) Overall, the illegitimacy rate has skyrocketed from about 8
percent to 33.8 percent.

If George Bush's war on terrorism were to go as well as the Democrats'
war on poverty, in a few decades we could have four times as many
angry Muslims worldwide plotting terrorist violence against Americans.

Or how about an "exit strategy" for New York City's war on high rents?
Rent control was introduced as a temporary wartime measure during
World War II. Sixty years later, the Germans have been subdued - but
government bureaucrats in New York are still setting rents, leading to
the surplus of affordable housing for which the city is duly famous.
The anointed live in lush five-bedroom apartments in marquee buildings
for $350 a month while newcomers are forced to bid up the few units in
what's left of the housing market, paying thousands of dollars per
month to live in rat-infested tenements.

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor recently upheld a 25-year failed
experiment in race discrimination for college admissions. She breezily
announced a pull-out date of 2028. Liberals admired O'Connor's
Solomon-like resolution of a festering national problem and did not
concern themselves with the absence of an "exit strategy."

But George Bush - with the widespread support of the American people
and the U.S. Congress - acts to take out a lunatic supporting Islamic
terrorism, and within six months, all the Democratic presidential
candidates are clamoring for an "exit strategy." Bush should promise
the Democrats that there will be peace and democracy in Iraq long
before the Democrats conceive of an exit strategy to the war on
poverty, the war on high rents, and the war on white kids applying to
Michigan Law School.

The party of diversity is in lockstep in supporting all those idiotic
programs. They're working just great. But our servicemen come under
attack while clearing out a swamp of murderous fanatics who seek the
death of all Americans and the Democrats have had enough.

To be fair, encouraging Democrats to come up with new ideas is fraught
with danger. One Democrat who has recently demonstrated her
out-of-the-box thinking is Mattie Hunter, a Democratic state senator
in Illinois. (You knew she was a Democrat when the New York Times
neglected to provide a party affiliation.) After a fired employee
returned to the auto supply warehouse in Hunter's district to gun down
six of his former colleagues, she demanded an investigation into ...
the circumstances of the gunman's firing. "How did they do it?" she
said. "Did they just say, 'We're going to fire you'? Was it done
professionally? In today's day, everyone is under a lot of pressure.
When someone loses their job, it's a shock and tragedy in itself."

Perhaps Hunter could propose a War on Firing Employees. In 50 years,
69 percent of all employees will be shooting up their workplaces, but
the Democrats will urge patience in working out the bugs.

Typical Coulter - completely misses the point.
Bush got us into a war with no exit strategy. Fact.
And all the offtopic whining about rent control,
Affirmative Action, and welfare programs won't
change that.
Can you imagine Powell telling the UN the US
needs assistance in Iraq because of NY rent control?
LOL!!


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm

"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher

"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
reported in The Washington Times

Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you’re gay.

.

User: "James Hall"

Title: Re: No Quagmire Here! - Just The 1st Annual Iraqi Sand Bowl 06 Sep 2003 01:40:14 PM
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User: ""

Title: Re: No Quagmire Here! 06 Sep 2003 10:19:31 AM
Ken,
Last few years before I retired in NJ, about 25 miles west on I- 80 from the
GW bridge, I got a good idea of both NJ and NYC. Both over taxed, way too
expensive, and the entire infrastructure collapsing.
I liveed for a bit in Hackensack, in what they called an "elevater building"
I think to distinguish it from a walk up building.
Sometimes, the elevater even worked.
Two very small rooms, and a bathroom sized kitchen. $900 a month. Then moved
west, out a one bedroom apt for $1,165 per month, in another dump, but at
least I was on the ground floor.
I would not move back there for a million a month! Sorry!
If your a retired policemen, how could you possibly take all the crap from
all those mouthy, spoiled brats without spanking the hell out of them?
Coming from Ohio, and points west, I had a significant gun collection, so I
looked areound for a city that would allow me to bring it in. I was a minor
executive, no criminal record. One Police Chief said to me "You have HOW
many guns? My people would have to work overtime for two weeks just to
process the paperwork! No way"! So I had to leave them with my daughter in
Ohio, until I could escape from NJ!
Yet NJ had more criminal shootings than anywhere I ever lived! I personally
saw crimes commited on a regular basis, and I had never seen that anywhere
before!
Then, there's the constant whining by the spoiled brats about the cost of
Auto insurance, from the most irresponsible
drivers I have ever seen, and I lived in Europe for many years. No
comparison.
Almost every day, these is a very serious accident on I-80, and an airevac
probably once a week.
So, I don't envy the police nor the fireman out there, you deserve at least
twice what you make, just for putting up this a totally spoiled population
who have a "Civil Right" to everything, up to and including murder, but
absolutely no responsibilites nor duties.
"Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> wrote in message
news:67mjlvk08kahp0a4at1j7at7890glvg91q@4ax.com...

No Quagmire Here!
Ann Coulter
September 3, 2003

ANOTHER PRESIDENT began a war promising a "chance to test our weapons,
to try our energy and ideas and imagination for the many battles yet
to come." He said that as conditions change, "we will be prepared to
modify our strategy." The heralded modifications never came, nor did
an end to the war. President Lyndon Johnson's war on poverty turned
out to be a bigger quagmire than Vietnam. Would that the Democrats
would give the war in Iraq as much time to succeed as they are willing
to give the "War on Poverty," now entering its 40th year.

Instead of poor people with hope and possibility, we now have a
permanent underclass of aspiring criminals knifing one another between
having illegitimate children and collecting welfare checks. It is an
ironclad law of economics that if you want more of something,
subsidize it; if you want less of something, tax it. But liberals were
shocked and bewildered to discover that when they subsidized
illegitimacy, they got more of it.

The War on Poverty took a crisis-level illegitimacy rate among blacks
in the mid-1960s (22 percent) and tripled it to 69 percent. It
transformed a negligible illegitimacy rate among whites (2 percent) to
emergency proportions (22.5 percent) - higher than the black
illegitimacy rate when Daniel Patrick Moynihan heralded the War on
Poverty with his alarmist report on black families, "The Negro Family:
The Case for National Action." (Demonstrating the sort of on-the
job-training that has so impressed Hollywood elites, the state with
the second highest rate of white illegitimacy is Howard Dean's
Vermont.) Overall, the illegitimacy rate has skyrocketed from about 8
percent to 33.8 percent.

If George Bush's war on terrorism were to go as well as the Democrats'
war on poverty, in a few decades we could have four times as many
angry Muslims worldwide plotting terrorist violence against Americans.

Or how about an "exit strategy" for New York City's war on high rents?
Rent control was introduced as a temporary wartime measure during
World War II. Sixty years later, the Germans have been subdued - but
government bureaucrats in New York are still setting rents, leading to
the surplus of affordable housing for which the city is duly famous.
The anointed live in lush five-bedroom apartments in marquee buildings
for $350 a month while newcomers are forced to bid up the few units in
what's left of the housing market, paying thousands of dollars per
month to live in rat-infested tenements.

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor recently upheld a 25-year failed
experiment in race discrimination for college admissions. She breezily
announced a pull-out date of 2028. Liberals admired O'Connor's
Solomon-like resolution of a festering national problem and did not
concern themselves with the absence of an "exit strategy."

But George Bush - with the widespread support of the American people
and the U.S. Congress - acts to take out a lunatic supporting Islamic
terrorism, and within six months, all the Democratic presidential
candidates are clamoring for an "exit strategy." Bush should promise
the Democrats that there will be peace and democracy in Iraq long
before the Democrats conceive of an exit strategy to the war on
poverty, the war on high rents, and the war on white kids applying to
Michigan Law School.

The party of diversity is in lockstep in supporting all those idiotic
programs. They're working just great. But our servicemen come under
attack while clearing out a swamp of murderous fanatics who seek the
death of all Americans and the Democrats have had enough.

To be fair, encouraging Democrats to come up with new ideas is fraught
with danger. One Democrat who has recently demonstrated her
out-of-the-box thinking is Mattie Hunter, a Democratic state senator
in Illinois. (You knew she was a Democrat when the New York Times
neglected to provide a party affiliation.) After a fired employee
returned to the auto supply warehouse in Hunter's district to gun down
six of his former colleagues, she demanded an investigation into ...
the circumstances of the gunman's firing. "How did they do it?" she
said. "Did they just say, 'We're going to fire you'? Was it done
professionally? In today's day, everyone is under a lot of pressure.
When someone loses their job, it's a shock and tragedy in itself."

Perhaps Hunter could propose a War on Firing Employees. In 50 years,
69 percent of all employees will be shooting up their workplaces, but
the Democrats will urge patience in working out the bugs.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm

"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher

"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
reported in The Washington Times

Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you're gay.

.
User: "Ken [NY"

Title: Re: No Quagmire Here! 07 Sep 2003 10:51:37 AM
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 15:19:31 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> ranted:

Ken,

Last few years before I retired in NJ, about 25 miles west on I- 80 from the
GW bridge, I got a good idea of both NJ and NYC. Both over taxed, way too
expensive, and the entire infrastructure collapsing.

I liveed for a bit in Hackensack, in what they called an "elevater building"
I think to distinguish it from a walk up building.
Sometimes, the elevater even worked.
Two very small rooms, and a bathroom sized kitchen. $900 a month. Then moved
west, out a one bedroom apt for $1,165 per month, in another dump, but at
least I was on the ground floor.

I would not move back there for a million a month! Sorry!

If your a retired policemen, how could you possibly take all the crap from
all those mouthy, spoiled brats without spanking the hell out of them?

Police officer applicants are probably the most investigated
people in the country. I used to work for Republic Aviation and my job
was installing special weapons equipment into F-105 fighter-bombers. I
was investigated by the FBI before being hired. But their
investigation was nothing compared to what I went through to become a
cop. IA went door to door through my neighborhoods, trying to find a
reason NOT to hire me. I was required to list all tickets I had
gotten, including parking violations. I managed to forgot one
equipment violation I had gotten while driving a truck part time when
in college, and they almost did not hire me for that. They checked me
out with my employees, schools and even my teachers, wanting to know
if I was a trouble maker or fighter. Thank goodness I had no enemies
at that time who could have deep-sixed my career before it began.
What I am trying to say is that police officers, at least
where I worked, have to have a spotless background. So they only hire
people who are slow to anger and are even tempered. Plus - if IA had
gotten verified information that I had "spanked" anyone in any way, I
would at least have been pulled off patrol, possibly fired and
possibly charged criminally. Just not worth losing my career to get
even with some jerk. Besides, there is an old police saying - "there
will always be another day". I might see the same idiot blasting
through a red light. :-)

Coming from Ohio, and points west, I had a significant gun collection, so I
looked areound for a city that would allow me to bring it in. I was a minor
executive, no criminal record. One Police Chief said to me "You have HOW
many guns? My people would have to work overtime for two weeks just to
process the paperwork! No way"! So I had to leave them with my daughter in
Ohio, until I could escape from NJ!

Yet NJ had more criminal shootings than anywhere I ever lived! I personally
saw crimes commited on a regular basis, and I had never seen that anywhere
before!

In my opinion, the reason there are so many gun homicides in
NJ is probably because there are so many unarmed victims. Citizen gun
ownership does lower felony crime rates.
Remember some town a while back made it mandatory to post
signs in front of gun owners' homes, warning that the residents were
armed with firearms? In no time, the crime rate dropped like a rock,
so even people with no guns began to put up those signs in front of
their homes.
Except for terrorist bombings, there is very little serious
street crime in Israel. That could be because almost everybody there
is walking around armed with submachine guns.

Then, there's the constant whining by the spoiled brats about the cost of
Auto insurance, from the most irresponsible
drivers I have ever seen, and I lived in Europe for many years. No
comparison.
Almost every day, these is a very serious accident on I-80, and an airevac
probably once a week.

NJ tried to keep auto insurance rates down by putting a price
cap on them. The results are the same as with any government price
control - shortages, this time on insurance companies who decided not
to sell insurance in New Jersy since they could not turn a profit.
That is something about economics that a lot of people don't
understand. When the feds decided to impose wage and price controls in
the seventies, soon there was a shortage of just about everything. We
had gas lines running around the block - people desiring to get their
rationed gas. One goofy local news man - Geraldo Rivera - went out in
a helicopter into the Atlantic beyond NY Harbor, and claimed he had
found tankers full of oil, waiting for the prices to get REALLY high
so they could sell it. Of course, like just about everything he is
involved with, it was bunk. We began to have shortages of milk, bread,
eggs and even jelly beans before Easter. I wrote to him, asking if he
could scan the seas and find any freighters filled with jelly beans. I
got no response.

So, I don't envy the police nor the fireman out there, you deserve at least
twice what you make, just for putting up this a totally spoiled population
who have a "Civil Right" to everything, up to and including murder, but
absolutely no responsibilites nor duties.

The NYPD is certainly terribly underpaid as is the FDNY. But I
am fortunate to have been a member of a department which paid its
employees decently, and I made some very good investments.
The vast majority of the public are fine citizens just as the
vast majority of the police are good cops. There are those who spoil
it for the others, though. The police have the job of stopping the bad
members of the public and Internal Affairs takes care of stopping bad
cops.
Cheers,
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
reported in The Washington Times
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you’re gay.
.



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