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No Room for INTELLIGENT DESIGN in Big Bang Theory - Universe - Galaxies - Hubble , |
Here again is that majestic, magnificent, mindboggling
Hubble Telescope ultra view photo taken last year of
a totally blackened sky that reveals a spectacular view
as if seen through an eight-foot-long straw.
I repeat: As seen through AN EIGHT-FOOT-LONG STRAW.
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Galaxies upon galaxies upon galaxies, and each galaxy
containing multi-millions of stars and trillions of planets
and moons, much like our own Milky Way.
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Astonishingly, no one -- if living on a planet in one of these
galaxies -- can see their closest neighboring galaxy with the
naked eye. And each star in each galaxy is light years from its
closest neighboring star.
Imagine, too, that the universe looks like this is ALL directions,
and there evidently is no end in sight to such a majestic view
when employed the Hubble in *any* direction from earth.
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Let the Establishment astronomers and space scientists
-- the heathens -- continue to downplay the significance of this
breathtaking photo, crediting it to a happenstance occurrence called
the Big Bang. But the Big Bang is getting to look more and more like
the Big Bang BUST every day.
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One honest opinion that an Intelligent Designer -- or Intelligent
DesignerS -- definitely had a hand in construction of the universe
makes a lot more sense than the nonsense proposed by
know-it-all "scientists," the overly educated bureaucratic buffoons
with the alphabet soup at the end of their names.
Their biased opinion is that life is an accident wrapped snugly
around their desire to protect their vested interests. Here, too, are
mountains of deceit, deception, collusion and conspiracy, the same
accusation as so well fits their physical anthropological brethren.
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I say it's high time science moves out of the Dark Ages, comes
to grips with the false doctrine of evolution and concludes that
all sad sack theories -- none based on facts and physical
evidence -- had better get out of the way of Intelligent Design,
or it''ll soon get steamrolled over.
HUBBLE'S DEEPEST VIEW EVER
OF UNIVERSE UNVEILS EARLIEST GALAXIES
( Press Release -- March 9, 2004)
(A little editorializing music, Maestro)
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Astronomers at the Space Telescope Science Institute today
unveiled the deepest portrait of the visible universe ever achieved
by humankind.
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Called the Hubble Ultra Deep Field (HUDF), the million-second-long
exposure reveals the first galaxies to emerge from the so-called "dark
ages," the time shortly after the Big Bang when the first stars
reheated the cold, dark universe. The new image should offer new
insights into what types of objects reheated the universe long ago.
There it is: mention of a Big Bang, as always, simply meaning
cosmologists have no concrete answer, so they keep tossing
around a theory short on facts and physical evidence.
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This historic new view is actually two separate images taken by
Hubble's Advanced Camera for Surveys (ACS) and the Near Infrared
Camera and Multi-object Spectrometer (NICMOS). Both images reveal
galaxies that are too faint to be seen by ground-based telescopes, or
even in Hubble's previous faraway looks, called the Hubble Deep Fields
(HDFs), taken in 1995 and 1998.
"Hubble takes us to within a stone's throw of the Big Bang itself,"
says Massimo Stiavelli of the Space Telescope Science Institute in
Baltimore, Md., and the HUDF project lead.
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Horseshit! The Space Telescope Science Institute is not closer
to confirming a Big Bang than it was decades ago, and the Hubble
Ultra Deep Field photo is being used as just another feeble attempt
to convey the message that the universe -- and all life -- had begun
on its own.
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The combination of ACS and NICMOS images will be used to search for
galaxies that existed between 400 and 800 million years (corresponding
to a red shift range of 7 to 12) after the Big Bang. A key question
for HUDF astronomers is whether the universe appears to be the same at
this very early time as it did when the cosmos was between 1 and 2
billion years old.
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The HUDF field contains an estimated 10,000 galaxies. In ground-based
images, the patch of sky in which the galaxies reside (just one-tenth
the diameter of the full Moon) is largely empty.
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Well, it won't show "empty" when a telescope -- stronger than the
existing Hubble -- is able to peer into that empty, dark expanse of
space in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field Photo. I assure you it
will show millions upon millions more galaxies, much farther
away than even seen in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field Photo.
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Located in the constellation Fornax, the region is below the
constellation Orion.
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The final ACS image, assembled by Anton Koekemoer of the Space
Telescope Science Institute, is studded with a wide range of galaxies
of various sizes, shapes, and colors.
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In vibrant contrast to the image's rich harvest of classic spiral and
elliptical galaxies, there is a zoo of oddball galaxies littering the
field. Some look like toothpicks; others like links on a bracelet. A
few appear to be interacting.
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Their strange shapes are a far cry from the majestic spiral and
elliptical galaxies we see today. These oddball galaxies chronicle a
period when the universe was more chaotic. Order and structure were
just beginning to emerge.
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Boy, are those cosmologists smart. Especially when their basing
their science on theory, simply theory.
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Installed in 2002 during the last servicing mission to the Hubble
telescope, the ACS has twice the field of view and a higher
sensitivity than the older workhorse camera, the Wide Field Planetary
Camera 2, installed during the 1993 servicing mission.
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"The large discovery efficiency of the ACS is now being exploited in
sky surveys such as the HUDF," Stiavelli says.
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The NICMOS sees even farther than the ACS. The NICMOS reveals the
farthest galaxies ever seen, because the expanding universe has
stretched their light into the near-infrared portion of the spectrum.
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"The NICMOS provides important additional scientific content to
cosmological studies in the HUDF," says Rodger Thompson of the
University of Arizona and the NICMOS Principal Investigator.
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The ACS uncovered galaxies that existed 800 million years after the
Big Bang (at a red shift of 7). But the NICMOS may have spotted
galaxies that lived just 400 million years after the birth of the
cosmos (at a red shift of 12). Thompson must confirm the NICMOS
discovery with follow-up research.
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There is absolutely no grounds for the dating mentioned. Instead of
400 or 800 millions years ago, it may well be 400 or 800 zillion years ago.
My, the cosmologists like to toss figures around to suit their fancy.
Sheer guesswork, and not even good guesswork at that.
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"The images will also help us prepare for the next step from NICMOS on
the Hubble telescope to the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST),"
Thompson explains. "The NICMOS images reach back to the distance and
time that JWST is destined to explore at much greater sensitivity.
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" In addition to distant galaxies, the longer infrared wavelengths are
sensitive to galaxies that are intrinsically red, such as elliptical
galaxies and galaxies that have red colors due to a high degree of
dust absorption.
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The entire HUDF also was observed with the advanced camera's "grism"
spectrograph, a hybrid prism and diffraction grating.
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"The grism spectra have already yielded the identification of about a
thousand objects. Included among them are some of the intensely faint
and red points of light in the ACS image, prime candidates for distant
galaxies," says Sangeeta Malhotra of the Space Telescope Science
Institute and the Principal Investigator for the Ultra Deep Field's
ACS grism follow-up study.
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"Based on those identifications, some of these objects are among the
farthest and youngest galaxies ever seen. The grism spectra also
distinguish among other types of very red objects, such as old and
dusty red galaxies, quasars, and cool dwarf stars."
Galaxies evolved so quickly in the universe that their most important
changes happened within a billion years of the Big Bang.
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Oh, no! Another mention of the Big Bang. Those cosmologists
just love those two words. Same as they hate those other two words,
Intelligent Design.
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"Where the HDFs showed galaxies when they were youngsters, the HUDF
reveals them as toddlers, enmeshed in a period of rapid developmental
changes," Stiavelli says.
Hubble's ACS allows astronomers to see galaxies two to four times
fainter than Hubble could view previously, and is also very sensitive
to the near-infrared radiation that allows astronomers to pluck out
some of the farthest observable galaxies in the universe.
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This will hold the record as the deepest-ever view of the universe
until ESA, together with NASA, launches the James Webb Space Telescope
in 2011.
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And, when the James Webb Space Telescope comes on line six years
from now, it'll show galaxies upon galaxies in the black patches of sky
shown in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field Photo. Then the ***** contained
in this press release will be updated, with even more positive identification
that a Big Bang is behind it all.
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Though ground-based telescopes have, to date, spied objects that
existed just 500 million years after the Big Bang (at a red shift of
10), they need the help of a rare natural zoom lens in space, called a
gravitational lens, to see them.
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See, they've started already. And it ain't even 2001.
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However, the ACS can reveal typical galaxies at these great distances.
Even much larger ground-based telescopes with adaptive optics cannot
reproduce such a view.
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The ACS picture required a series of exposures taken over the course
of 400 Hubble orbits around Earth. This is such a big chunk of the
telescope's annual observing time that Institute Director Steven
Beckwith used his own Director's Discretionary Time to provide the
needed resources.
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The HUDF observations began Sept. 24, 2003 and continued through Jan.
16, 2004. The telescope's ACS camera, the size of a phone booth,
captured ancient photons of light that began traversing the universe
even before Earth existed.
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Photons of light from the very faintest objects arrived at a trickle
of one photon per minute, compared with millions of photons per minute
from nearer galaxies.
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Just like the previous HDFs, the new data are expected to galvanize
the astronomical community and lead to dozens of research papers that
will offer new insights into the birth and evolution of galaxies.
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I wouldn't exactly say "galvanize" but I would say "petrified," like in
"scared of the truth" -- of Intelligent Design. Still, all of the research
papers will cling to to theory of the Big Bang, even though it really
won't have any more basis in fact.
It would be much better if the cosmologists ate some humble
pie and simly declared: "We just don't know how the universe
came to be."
Big Bang theorists have no alternative but to cling to the Big Bang
as the reason to eliminate an Intelligent Designer. Instead of peering
into their telescopes, they might make more progress searching for
answers if they look where the sun doesn't shine.
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| Title: Re: No Room for INTELLIGENT DESIGN in Big Bang Theory - Universe - Galaxies - Hubble , |
07 Aug 2005 09:02:10 AM |
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"Ed Conrad" <edconrad@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Galaxies upon galaxies upon galaxies, and each galaxy
containing multi-millions of stars and trillions of planets
and moons, much like our own Milky Way.
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Astonishingly, no one -- if living on a planet in one of these
galaxies -- can see their closest neighboring galaxy with the
naked eye. And each star in each galaxy is light years from its
closest neighboring star.
Imagine, too, that the universe looks like this is ALL directions,
and there evidently is no end in sight to such a majestic view
when employed the Hubble in *any* direction from earth.
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Let the Establishment astronomers and space scientists
-- the heathens -- continue to downplay the significance of this
breathtaking photo, crediting it to a happenstance occurrence called
the Big Bang. But the Big Bang is getting to look more and more like
the Big Bang BUST every day.
You are obviously ignorant about modern physics.
The Big Bang is verified with new evidence constantly, including the finding
of heavier particles, background radiation, and all sorts of phenomena that
make it a very strong, theory.
One honest opinion that an Intelligent Designer -- or Intelligent
DesignerS -- definitely had a hand in construction of the universe
That's one opinion, but it's not falsifiable and thus outside of science.
You obviously do not understand the basics of science.
There could be an intelligent designer who used the big bang as a way to
create space-time (which is an entity) and hence our laws of physics. There
could be intelligent design behind evolution (that's what most Christians
believe, after all). But just as the earth isn't flat and the sun doesn't
worship the earth, denying well verified science simply makes you look like
a fool.
makes a lot more sense than the nonsense proposed by
know-it-all "scientists," the overly educated bureaucratic buffoons
with the alphabet soup at the end of their names.
You would prefer the ignorant to determine the facts, and ignore evidence
and the scientific method? That is purely irrational and idiotic.
Oh well, science has had to defeat that kind of idiocy for centuries.
And science always wins.
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| Title: Re: No Room for INTELLIGENT DESIGN in Big Bang Theory - Universe - Galaxies - Hubble , |
07 Aug 2005 10:11:14 AM |
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"Scott Erb" <scotterb@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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One honest opinion that an Intelligent Designer -- or
Intelligent
DesignerS -- definitely had a hand in construction of the
universe
That's one opinion, but it's not falsifiable and thus
outside of science.
You obviously do not understand the basics of science.
The "god question" is not outside the realm of
science. Taken apart from any religious of
philosophical concepts, it can be considered
by science, and formulated as an inferential
hypothesis. It could be falsified by showing
that there is clear evidence that there is
or was no universal intelligence involved in
the design of the universe. It's a legitimate
hypothesis because there is considerable
evidence of exacting design, including an
act of creation: the big bang.
And it would be limited to clear physical
evidence of a metaphysical blueprint. Much
the way an expressed organism has its own
unique DNA blueprint.
This is certainly no wilder than string
theory, which infers an 11-dimensional
universe most of which cannot even be
experimentally observed at the present time.
Your concept of science is political, Scott,
not scientific. Science examines chains of
cause and effect, and much like the big bang
itself, effects imply causes that can be
inferred. The big bang is an inference from
effects; it's not an event that can be
reproduced. Likewise, at some point the effects
of the design of the universe can validly
imply a designing universal intelligence that
can be inferred.
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| User: "1827 Dead zepp1827#2211finestplanet.com" |
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| Title: Re: No Room for INTELLIGENT DESIGN in Big Bang Theory - Universe - Galaxies - Hubble , |
07 Aug 2005 07:51:01 AM |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:46:21 GMT, Ed Conrad <edconrad@verizon.net>
wrote:
Here again is that majestic, magnificent, mindboggling
Hubble Telescope ultra view photo taken last year of
a totally blackened sky that reveals a spectacular view
as if seen through an eight-foot-long straw.
I repeat: As seen through AN EIGHT-FOOT-LONG STRAW.
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http://www.spacedaily.com/images/hubble-ultradeep-desk-1024.jpg
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Galaxies upon galaxies upon galaxies, and each galaxy
containing multi-millions of stars and trillions of planets
and moons, much like our own Milky Way.
<
Astonishingly, no one -- if living on a planet in one of these
galaxies -- can see their closest neighboring galaxy with the
naked eye. And each star in each galaxy is light years from its
closest neighboring star.
Imagine, too, that the universe looks like this is ALL directions,
and there evidently is no end in sight to such a majestic view
when employed the Hubble in *any* direction from earth.
<
Let the Establishment astronomers and space scientists
-- the heathens -- continue to downplay the significance of this
breathtaking photo, crediting it to a happenstance occurrence called
the Big Bang. But the Big Bang is getting to look more and more like
the Big Bang BUST every day.
<
One honest opinion that an Intelligent Designer -- or Intelligent
DesignerS -- definitely had a hand in construction of the universe
makes a lot more sense than the nonsense proposed by
know-it-all "scientists," the overly educated bureaucratic buffoons
with the alphabet soup at the end of their names.
Their biased opinion is that life is an accident wrapped snugly
around their desire to protect their vested interests. Here, too, are
mountains of deceit, deception, collusion and conspiracy, the same
accusation as so well fits their physical anthropological brethren.
<
I say it's high time science moves out of the Dark Ages, comes
to grips with the false doctrine of evolution and concludes that
all sad sack theories -- none based on facts and physical
evidence -- had better get out of the way of Intelligent Design,
or it''ll soon get steamrolled over.
You DO understand that the "Big Bang" has nothing to do directly with
evolution on earth, and occurred about 15 billion years apart, right?
I look at that image (which is actually about seven years old), and I
remember that Genesis says that god created the lights in the sky on
the fourth day in order for the shepherds to know when to stage
festivals. In other words, that image, times several billion, was all
made just so people who weren't around yet could know when to order
people out to live off the fields for a week (where the "proclaim
liberty throughout the land" quote comes from) or allow shephards to
say, "Oh, look the sun is in Capricorn, time to bring the sheep in for
the winter".
Wouldn't you say that was a bit of OVERKILL?
HUBBLE'S DEEPEST VIEW EVER
OF UNIVERSE UNVEILS EARLIEST GALAXIES
( Press Release -- March 9, 2004)
(A little editorializing music, Maestro)
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Astronomers at the Space Telescope Science Institute today
unveiled the deepest portrait of the visible universe ever achieved
by humankind.
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Called the Hubble Ultra Deep Field (HUDF), the million-second-long
exposure reveals the first galaxies to emerge from the so-called "dark
ages," the time shortly after the Big Bang when the first stars
reheated the cold, dark universe. The new image should offer new
insights into what types of objects reheated the universe long ago.
There it is: mention of a Big Bang, as always, simply meaning
cosmologists have no concrete answer, so they keep tossing
around a theory short on facts and physical evidence.
<
This historic new view is actually two separate images taken by
Hubble's Advanced Camera for Surveys (ACS) and the Near Infrared
Camera and Multi-object Spectrometer (NICMOS). Both images reveal
galaxies that are too faint to be seen by ground-based telescopes, or
even in Hubble's previous faraway looks, called the Hubble Deep Fields
(HDFs), taken in 1995 and 1998.
"Hubble takes us to within a stone's throw of the Big Bang itself,"
says Massimo Stiavelli of the Space Telescope Science Institute in
Baltimore, Md., and the HUDF project lead.
<
Horseshit! The Space Telescope Science Institute is not closer
to confirming a Big Bang than it was decades ago, and the Hubble
Ultra Deep Field photo is being used as just another feeble attempt
to convey the message that the universe -- and all life -- had begun
on its own.
<
The combination of ACS and NICMOS images will be used to search for
galaxies that existed between 400 and 800 million years (corresponding
to a red shift range of 7 to 12) after the Big Bang. A key question
for HUDF astronomers is whether the universe appears to be the same at
this very early time as it did when the cosmos was between 1 and 2
billion years old.
<
The HUDF field contains an estimated 10,000 galaxies. In ground-based
images, the patch of sky in which the galaxies reside (just one-tenth
the diameter of the full Moon) is largely empty.
<
Well, it won't show "empty" when a telescope -- stronger than the
existing Hubble -- is able to peer into that empty, dark expanse of
space in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field Photo. I assure you it
will show millions upon millions more galaxies, much farther
away than even seen in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field Photo.
<
Located in the constellation Fornax, the region is below the
constellation Orion.
<
The final ACS image, assembled by Anton Koekemoer of the Space
Telescope Science Institute, is studded with a wide range of galaxies
of various sizes, shapes, and colors.
<
In vibrant contrast to the image's rich harvest of classic spiral and
elliptical galaxies, there is a zoo of oddball galaxies littering the
field. Some look like toothpicks; others like links on a bracelet. A
few appear to be interacting.
<
Their strange shapes are a far cry from the majestic spiral and
elliptical galaxies we see today. These oddball galaxies chronicle a
period when the universe was more chaotic. Order and structure were
just beginning to emerge.
<
Boy, are those cosmologists smart. Especially when their basing
their science on theory, simply theory.
<
Installed in 2002 during the last servicing mission to the Hubble
telescope, the ACS has twice the field of view and a higher
sensitivity than the older workhorse camera, the Wide Field Planetary
Camera 2, installed during the 1993 servicing mission.
<
"The large discovery efficiency of the ACS is now being exploited in
sky surveys such as the HUDF," Stiavelli says.
<
The NICMOS sees even farther than the ACS. The NICMOS reveals the
farthest galaxies ever seen, because the expanding universe has
stretched their light into the near-infrared portion of the spectrum.
<
"The NICMOS provides important additional scientific content to
cosmological studies in the HUDF," says Rodger Thompson of the
University of Arizona and the NICMOS Principal Investigator.
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The ACS uncovered galaxies that existed 800 million years after the
Big Bang (at a red shift of 7). But the NICMOS may have spotted
galaxies that lived just 400 million years after the birth of the
cosmos (at a red shift of 12). Thompson must confirm the NICMOS
discovery with follow-up research.
<
There is absolutely no grounds for the dating mentioned. Instead of
400 or 800 millions years ago, it may well be 400 or 800 zillion years ago.
My, the cosmologists like to toss figures around to suit their fancy.
Sheer guesswork, and not even good guesswork at that.
<
"The images will also help us prepare for the next step from NICMOS on
the Hubble telescope to the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST),"
Thompson explains. "The NICMOS images reach back to the distance and
time that JWST is destined to explore at much greater sensitivity.
<
" In addition to distant galaxies, the longer infrared wavelengths are
sensitive to galaxies that are intrinsically red, such as elliptical
galaxies and galaxies that have red colors due to a high degree of
dust absorption.
<
The entire HUDF also was observed with the advanced camera's "grism"
spectrograph, a hybrid prism and diffraction grating.
<
"The grism spectra have already yielded the identification of about a
thousand objects. Included among them are some of the intensely faint
and red points of light in the ACS image, prime candidates for distant
galaxies," says Sangeeta Malhotra of the Space Telescope Science
Institute and the Principal Investigator for the Ultra Deep Field's
ACS grism follow-up study.
<
"Based on those identifications, some of these objects are among the
farthest and youngest galaxies ever seen. The grism spectra also
distinguish among other types of very red objects, such as old and
dusty red galaxies, quasars, and cool dwarf stars."
Galaxies evolved so quickly in the universe that their most important
changes happened within a billion years of the Big Bang.
<
Oh, no! Another mention of the Big Bang. Those cosmologists
just love those two words. Same as they hate those other two words,
Intelligent Design.
<
"Where the HDFs showed galaxies when they were youngsters, the HUDF
reveals them as toddlers, enmeshed in a period of rapid developmental
changes," Stiavelli says.
Hubble's ACS allows astronomers to see galaxies two to four times
fainter than Hubble could view previously, and is also very sensitive
to the near-infrared radiation that allows astronomers to pluck out
some of the farthest observable galaxies in the universe.
<
This will hold the record as the deepest-ever view of the universe
until ESA, together with NASA, launches the James Webb Space Telescope
in 2011.
<
And, when the James Webb Space Telescope comes on line six years
from now, it'll show galaxies upon galaxies in the black patches of sky
shown in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field Photo. Then the ***** contained
in this press release will be updated, with even more positive identification
that a Big Bang is behind it all.
<
Though ground-based telescopes have, to date, spied objects that
existed just 500 million years after the Big Bang (at a red shift of
10), they need the help of a rare natural zoom lens in space, called a
gravitational lens, to see them.
<
See, they've started already. And it ain't even 2001.
<
However, the ACS can reveal typical galaxies at these great distances.
Even much larger ground-based telescopes with adaptive optics cannot
reproduce such a view.
<
The ACS picture required a series of exposures taken over the course
of 400 Hubble orbits around Earth. This is such a big chunk of the
telescope's annual observing time that Institute Director Steven
Beckwith used his own Director's Discretionary Time to provide the
needed resources.
<
The HUDF observations began Sept. 24, 2003 and continued through Jan.
16, 2004. The telescope's ACS camera, the size of a phone booth,
captured ancient photons of light that began traversing the universe
even before Earth existed.
<
Photons of light from the very faintest objects arrived at a trickle
of one photon per minute, compared with millions of photons per minute
from nearer galaxies.
<
Just like the previous HDFs, the new data are expected to galvanize
the astronomical community and lead to dozens of research papers that
will offer new insights into the birth and evolution of galaxies.
<
I wouldn't exactly say "galvanize" but I would say "petrified," like in
"scared of the truth" -- of Intelligent Design. Still, all of the research
papers will cling to to theory of the Big Bang, even though it really
won't have any more basis in fact.
It would be much better if the cosmologists ate some humble
pie and simly declared: "We just don't know how the universe
came to be."
Big Bang theorists have no alternative but to cling to the Big Bang
as the reason to eliminate an Intelligent Designer. Instead of peering
into their telescopes, they might make more progress searching for
answers if they look where the sun doesn't shine.
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http://www.edconrad.com
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Christian-Christensen, Donna M., U.S. Virgin Islands
Clay Jr., William "Lacy", Missouri, 1st
Cleaver, Emanuel, Missouri, 5th
Clyburn, James E., South Carolina, 6th
Coble, Howard, North Carolina, 6th
Cole, Tom, Oklahoma, 4th
Conaway, K. Michael, Texas, 11th
Conyers Jr., John, Michigan, 14th
Cooper, Jim, Tennessee, 5th
Costa, Jim, California, 20th
Costello, Jerry, Illinois, 12th
Cox, Christopher, California, 48th
Cramer, Robert E. "Bud", Alabama, 5th
Crenshaw, Ander, Florida, 4th
Crowley, Joseph, New York, 7th
Cubin, Barbara, Wyoming, At Large
Cuellar, Henry, Texas, 28th
Culberson, John, Texas, 7th
Cummings, Elijah, Maryland, 7th
Cunningham, Randy "Duke", California, 50th
Davis, Artur, Alabama, 7th
Davis, Danny K., Illinois, 7th
Davis, Geoff, Kentucky, 4th
Davis, Jim, Florida, 11th
Davis, Jo Ann S., Virginia, 1st
Davis, Lincoln, Tennessee, 4th
Davis, Susan, California, 53rd
Davis, Tom, Virginia, 11th
Deal, Nathan, Georgia, 10th
DeFazio, Peter, Oregon, 4th
DeGette, Diana, Colorado, 1st
Delahunt, William, Massachusetts, 10th
DeLauro, Rosa L., Connecticut, 3rd
DeLay, Tom, Texas, 22nd
Dent, Charles W., Pennsylvania, 15th
Diaz-Balart, Lincoln, Florida, 21st
Diaz-Balart, Mario, Florida, 25th
Dicks, Norman D., Washington, 6th
Dingell, John, Michigan, 15th
Doggett, Lloyd, Texas, 25th
Doolittle, John, California, 4th
Doyle, Mike, Pennsylvania, 14th
Drake, Thelma D., Virginia, 2nd
Dreier, David, California, 26th
Duncan Jr., John J., Tennessee, 2nd
Edwards, Chet, Texas, 17th
Ehlers, Vernon J., Michigan, 3rd
Emanuel, Rahm, Illinois, 5th
Emerson, Jo Ann, Missouri, 8th
Engel, Eliot, New York, 17th
English, Phil, Pennsylvania, 3rd
Eshoo, Anna G., California, 14th
Etheridge, Bob, North Carolina, 2nd
Evans, Lane, Illinois, 17th
Everett, Terry, Alabama, 2nd
Faleomavaega, Eni F. H., American Samoa
Farr, Sam, California, 17th
Fattah, Chaka, Pennsylvania, 2nd
Feeney, Tom, Florida, 24th
Ferguson, Michael, New Jersey, 7th
Filner, Bob, California, 51st
Fitzpatrick, Michael G., Pennsylvania, 8th
Flake, Jeff , Arizona, 6th
Foley, Mark, Florida, 16th
Forbes, J. Randy, Virginia, 4th
Ford, Harold, Tennessee, 9th
Fortenberry, Jeff, Nebraska, 1st
Fortuno, Luis G., Puerto Rico
Fossella, Vito, New York, 13th
Foxx, Virginia, North Carolina, 5th
Frank, Barney, Massachusetts, 4th
Franks, Trent, Arizona, 2nd
Frelinghuysen, Rodney, New Jersey, 11th
Gallegly, Elton, California, 24th
Garrett, Scott, New Jersey, 5th
Gerlach, Jim, Pennsylvania, 6th
Gibbons, Jim, Nevada, 2nd
Gilchrest, Wayne, Maryland, 1st
Gillmor, Paul, Ohio, 5th
Gingrey, Phil, Georgia, 11th
Gohmert, Louie, Texas, 1st
Gonzalez, Charlie A., Texas, 20th
Goode Jr., Virgil H., Virginia, 5th
Goodlatte, Bob, Virginia, 6th
Gordon, Bart, Tennessee, 6th
Granger, Kay, Texas, 12th
Graves, Sam, Missouri, 6th
Green, Al, Texas, 9th
Green, Gene, Texas, 29th
Green, Mark, Wisconsin, 8th
Grijalva, Raul, Arizona, 7th
Gutierrez, Luis, Illinois, 4th
Gutknecht, Gil, Minnesota, 1st
Hall, Ralph M., Texas, 4th
Harman, Jane, California, 36th
Harris, Katherine, Florida, 13th
Hart, Melissa, Pennsylvania, 4th
Hastert, Denny, Illinois, 14th
Hastings, Alcee L., Florida, 23rd
Hastings, Doc, Washington, 4th
Hayes, Robin, North Carolina, 8th
Hayworth, J.D., Arizona, 5th
Hefley, Joel, Colorado, 5th
Hensarling, Jeb, Texas, 5th
Herger, Wally, California, 2nd
Herseth, Stephanie, South Dakota, At Large
Higgins, Brian, New York, 27th
Hinchey, Maurice, New York, 22nd
Hinojosa, Rubén, Texas, 15th
Hobson, David, Ohio, 7th
Hoekstra, Pete, Michigan, 2nd
Holden, Tim, Pennsylvania, 17th
Holt, Rush, New Jersey, 12th
Honda, Mike, California, 15th
Hooley, Darlene, Oregon, 5th
Hostettler, John N., Indiana, 8th
Hoyer, Steny H., Maryland, 5th
Hulshof, Kenny, Missouri, 9th
Hunter, Duncan, California, 52nd
Hyde, Henry, Illinois, 6th
Inglis, Bob, South Carolina, 4th
Inslee, Jay, Washington, 1st
Israel, Steve, New York, 2nd
Issa, Darrell, California, 49th
Istook Jr., Ernest J., Oklahoma, 5th
Jackson Jr., Jesse L., Illinois, 2nd
Jackson Lee, Sheila, Texas, 18th
Jefferson, William J., Louisiana, 2nd
Jenkins, William L., Tennessee, 1st
Jindal, Bobby, Louisiana, 1st
Johnson, Eddie Bernice, Texas, 30th
Johnson, Nancy L., Connecticut, 5th
Johnson, Sam, Texas, 3rd
Johnson, Timothy V., Illinois, 15th
Jones, Stephanie Tubbs, Ohio, 11th
Jones, Walter B., North Carolina, 3rd
Kanjorski, Paul E., Pennsylvania, 11th
Kaptur, Marcy, Ohio, 9th
Keller, Ric, Florida, 8th
Kelly, Sue, New York, 19th
Kennedy, Mark, Minnesota, 6th
Kennedy, Patrick, Rhode Island, 1st
Kildee, Dale, Michigan, 5th
Kilpatrick, Carolyn, Michigan, 13th
Kind, Ron, Wisconsin, 3rd
King, Pete, New York, 3rd
King, Steve, Iowa, 5th
Kingston, Jack, Georgia, 1st
Kirk, Mark, Illinois, 10th
Kline, John, Minnesota, 2nd
Knollenberg, Joseph , Michigan, 9th
Kolbe, Jim, Arizona, 8th
Kucinich, Dennis J., Ohio, 10th
Kuhl Jr., John R. "Randy", New York, 29th
Lahood, Ray, Illinois, 18th
Langevin, Jim, Rhode Island, 2nd
Lantos, Tom, California, 12th
Larsen, Rick, Washington, 2nd
Larson, John B., Connecticut, 1st
Latham, Tom, Iowa, 4th
LaTourette, Steven C., Ohio, 14th
Leach, Jim, Iowa, 2nd
Lee, Barbara, California, 9th
Levin, Sander, Michigan, 12th
Lewis, Jerry, California, 41st
Lewis, John, Georgia, 5th
Lewis, Ron, Kentucky, 2nd
Linder, John, Georgia, 7th
Lipinski, Daniel, Illinois, 3rd
LoBiondo, Frank, New Jersey, 2nd
Lofgren, Zoe, California, 16th
Lowey, Nita, New York, 18th
Lucas, Frank, Oklahoma, 3rd
Lungren, Daniel E., California, 3rd
Lynch, Stephen F., Massachusetts, 9th
Mack, Connie, Florida, 14th
Maloney, Carolyn, New York, 14th
Manzullo, Donald, Illinois, 16th
Marchant, Kenny, Texas, 24th
Markey, Ed, Massachusetts, 7th
Marshall, Jim, Georgia, 3rd
Matheson, Jim, Utah, 2nd
Matsui, Doris O., California, 5th
McCarthy, Carolyn, New York, 4th
McCaul, Michael T., Texas, 10th
McCollum, Betty, Minnesota, 4th
McCotter, Thaddeus, Michigan, 11th
McCrery, Jim, Louisiana, 4th
McDermott, Jim, Washington, 7th
McGovern, James, Massachusetts, 3rd
McHenry, Patrick T., North Carolina, 10th
McHugh, John M., New York, 23rd
McIntyre, Mike, North Carolina, 7th
McKeon, Buck, California, 25th
McKinney, Cynthia, Georgia, 4th
McMorris, Cathy, Washington, 5th
McNulty, Michael R., New York, 21st
Meehan, Marty, Massachusetts, 5th
Meek, Kendrick, Florida, 17th
Meeks, Gregory W., New York, 6th
Melancon, Charlie, Louisiana, 3rd
Menendez, Bob, New Jersey, 13th
Mica, John, Florida, 7th
Michaud, Michael, Maine, 2nd
Millender-McDonald, Juanita, California, 37th
Miller, Brad, North Carolina, 13th
Miller, Candice, Michigan, 10th
Miller, Gary, California, 42nd
Miller, George, California, 7th
Miller, Jeff, Florida, 1st
Mollohan, Alan B., West Virginia, 1st
Moore, Dennis, Kansas, 3rd
Moore, Gwen, Wisconsin, 4th
Moran, Jerry, Kansas, 1st
Moran, Jim, Virginia, 8th
Murphy, Tim, Pennsylvania, 18th
Murtha, John, Pennsylvania, 12th
Musgrave, Marilyn, Colorado, 4th
Myrick, Sue, North Carolina, 9th
Nadler, Jerrold, New York, 8th
Napolitano, Grace, California, 38th
Neal, Richard E., Massachusetts, 2nd
Neugebauer, Randy, Texas, 19th
Ney, Robert W., Ohio, 18th
Northup, Anne, Kentucky, 3rd
Norton, Eleanor Holmes, District of Columbia
Norwood, Charlie, Georgia, 9th
Nunes, Devin, California, 21st
Nussle, Jim, Iowa, 1st
Oberstar, James L., Minnesota, 8th
Obey, David R., Wisconsin, 7th
Olver, John, Massachusetts, 1st
Ortiz, Solomon P., Texas, 27th
Osborne, Tom, Nebraska, 3rd
Otter, Butch, Idaho, 1st
Owens, Major, New York, 11th
Oxley, Michael G., Ohio, 4th
Pallone Jr., Frank, New Jersey, 6th
Pascrell Jr., Bill, New Jersey, 8th
Pastor, Ed , Arizona, 4th
Paul, Ron, Texas, 14th
Payne, Donald M., New Jersey, 10th
Pearce, Steve, New Mexico, 2nd
Pelosi, Nancy, California, 8th
Pence, Mike, Indiana, 6th
Peterson, Collin C., Minnesota, 7th
Peterson, John E., Pennsylvania, 5th
Petri, Thomas, Wisconsin, 6th
Pickering, Charles W. "Chip", Mississippi, 3rd
Pitts, Joseph R., Pennsylvania, 16th
Platts, Todd, Pennsylvania, 19th
Poe, Ted, Texas, 2nd
Pombo, Richard, California, 11th
Pomeroy, Earl, North Dakota, At Large
Porter, Jon, Nevada, 3rd
Portman, Rob, Ohio, 2nd -- Vacancy
Price, David, North Carolina, 4th
Price, Tom, Georgia, 6th
Pryce, Deborah, Ohio, 15th
Putnam, Adam, Florida, 12th
Radanovich, George P., California, 19th
Rahall, Nick, West Virginia, 3rd
Ramstad, Jim, Minnesota, 3rd
Rangel, Charles B., New York, 15th
Regula, Ralph, Ohio, 16th
Rehberg, Dennis, Montana, At Large
Reichert, David G., Washington, 8th
Renzi, Rick, Arizona, 1st
Reyes, Silvestre, Texas, 16th
Reynolds, Thomas M., New York, 26th
Rogers, Harold, Kentucky, 5th
Rogers, Mike, Alabama, 3rd
Rogers, Mike, Michigan, 8th
Rohrabacher, Dana, California, 46th
Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana, Florida, 18th
Ross, Mike, Arkansas, 4th
Rothman, Steven, New Jersey, 9th
Roybal-Allard, Lucille, California, 34th
Royce, Ed, California, 40th
Ruppersberger, Dutch, Maryland, 2nd
Rush, Bobby L., Illinois, 1st
Ryan, Paul, Wisconsin, 1st
Ryan, Tim, Ohio, 17th
Ryun, Jim, Kansas, 2nd
Sabo, Martin Olav, Minnesota, 5th
Salazar, John T., Colorado, 3rd
Sanchez, Linda, California, 39th
Sanchez, Loretta, California, 47th
Sanders, Bernie, Vermont, At Large
Saxton, Jim, New Jersey, 3rd
Schakowsky, Jan, Illinois, 9th
Schiff, Adam, California, 29th
Schwartz, Allyson L., Pennsylvania, 13th
Schwarz, John J.H. "Joe", Michigan, 7th
Scott, David, Georgia, 13th
Scott, Robert C. "Bobby", Virginia, 3rd
Sensenbrenner, F. James, Wisconsin, 5th
Sessions, Pete, Texas, 32nd
Serrano, José E., New York, 16th
Shadegg, John, Arizona, 3rd
Shaw Jr., E. Clay , Florida, 22nd
Shays, Christopher, Connecticut, 4th
Sherman, Brad, California, 27th
Sherwood, Don, Pennsylvania, 10th
Shimkus, John, Illinois, 19th
Shuster, Bill, Pennsylvania, 9th
Simmons, Rob, Connecticut, 2nd
Simpson, Mike, Idaho, 2nd
Skelton, Ike, Missouri, 4th
Slaughter, Louise, New York, 28th
Smith, Adam, Washington, 9th
Smith, Chris, New Jersey, 4th
Smith, Lamar, Texas, 21st
Snyder, Vic, Arkansas, 2nd
Sodrel, Michael E., Indiana, 9th
Solis, Hilda, California, 32nd
Souder, Mark E., Indiana, 3rd
Spratt, John, South Carolina, 5th
Stark, Fortney Pete, California, 13th
Stearns, Cliff, Florida, 6th
Strickland, Ted, Ohio, 6th
Stupak, Bart, Michigan, 1st
Sullivan, John, Oklahoma, 1st
Sweeney, John E., New York, 20th
Tancredo, Tom, Colorado, 6th
Tanner, John, Tennessee, 8th
Tauscher, Ellen, California, 10th
Taylor, Charles H., North Carolina, 11th
Taylor, Gene, Mississippi, 4th
Terry, Lee, Nebraska, 2nd
Thomas, Bill, California, 22nd
Thompson, Bennie G., Mississippi, 2nd
Thompson, Mike, California, 1st
Thornberry, Mac, Texas, 13th
Tiahrt, Todd, Kansas, 4th
Tiberi, Pat, Ohio, 12th
Tierney, John, Massachusetts, 6th
Towns, Edolphus, New York, 10th
Turner, Michael, Ohio, 3rd
Udall, Mark, Colorado, 2nd
Udall, Tom, New Mexico, 3rd
Upton, Fred, Michigan, 6th
Van Hollen, Chris, Maryland, 8th
Velázquez, Nydia M., New York, 12th
Visclosky, Peter, Indiana, 1st
Walden, Greg, Oregon, 2nd
Walsh, Jim, New York, 25th
Wamp, Zach, Tennessee, 3rd
Wasserman Schultz, Debbie, Florida, 20th
Waters, Maxine, California, 35th
Watson, Diane E., California, 33rd
Watt, Mel, North Carolina, 12th
Waxman, Henry, California, 30th
Weiner, Anthony D., New York, 9th
Weldon, Curt, Pennsylvania, 7th
Weldon, Dave, Florida, 15th
Weller, Jerry, Illinois, 11th
Westmoreland, Lynn A., Georgia, 8th
Wexler, Robert, Florida, 19th
Whitfield, Ed, Kentucky, 1st
Wicker, Roger, Mississippi, 1st
Wilson, Heather, New Mexico, 1st
Wilson, Joe, South Carolina, 2nd
Wolf, Frank, Virginia, 10th
Woolsey, Lynn, California, 6th
Wu, David, Oregon, 1st
Wynn, Albert, Maryland, 4th
Young, C.W. Bill, Florida, 10th
Young, Don, Alaska, At Large
"I have not ordered the use of force. I hope
the use of force will not become necessary.
Hopefully this can be done peacefully.
Hopefully we can do this without any
military action."
--Putsch, three months after telling Blair he planned
to attack as soon as he had the phony intelligence
and propaganda all in place.
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"1827 Dead" <zepp1827#2211finestplanet.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:46:21 GMT, Ed Conrad <edconrad@verizon.net>
wrote:
Here again is that majestic, magnificent, mindboggling
Do a google on this fool.
You wouldn't believe what a whack job he is.
He is a refugee from the skeptic, and various religious groups. He gets
soundly trashed where ever he crops up
Jim E
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 08:11:39 -0700, "Jim E" <YD641387@SEA.net> wrote:
"1827 Dead" <zepp1827#2211finestplanet.com> wrote in message
news:8m0cf1l703dp228j3to37scsbe9qvtoqmb@4ax.com...
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:46:21 GMT, Ed Conrad <edconrad@verizon.net>
wrote:
Here again is that majestic, magnificent, mindboggling
Do a google on this fool.
You wouldn't believe what a whack job he is.
He is a refugee from the skeptic, and various religious groups. He gets
soundly trashed where ever he crops up
Actually, I just wrote an essay based on the Hubble shot ("And on the
Fourth Day..."), and in the course of preparing for it, I visited his
website. The essay will probably be ready to go out tonight.
Yeah, I see what you mean.
Jim E
"I have not ordered the use of force. I hope
the use of force will not become necessary.
Hopefully this can be done peacefully.
Hopefully we can do this without any
military action."
--Putsch, three months after telling Blair he planned
to attack as soon as he had the phony intelligence
and propaganda all in place.
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Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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