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11 Aug 2004 12:18:12 AM |
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No wonder Bush wants Goss to head CIA until Nov. 2. |
This is plain wrong. If Chavez wins a recall, Bush is a chickenshit to turn
the CIA loose on him.
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CIA executives gathered in Santiago de Chile revealed in contingency plot to
overthrow Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez Frias
President Hugo Chavez Frias
Venezuela state-owned news agency VENPRES is quoting an El Mundo de Madrid
(Spain) report that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is set to put a
contingency plan in motion in the (likely) event that President Hugo Chavez
Frias wins next weekend's Recall Referendum.
The Madrid newspaper says that the White House strategy is to avoid a
regional expansion of the President Hugo Chavez Frias 'Bolivarian
Revolution' which is seen by Washington D.C. as a direct step into the kind
of socialism espoused by many European nations and envisaged in the United
States if John Kerry wrests control of the White House from the Bush 2
administration this coming fall.
El Mundo says the CIA plan appears to concede a Chavez Frias victory next
weekend "for good or bad" and that Langley spooks are already working on a
strategy to "neutralize" Chavez Frias by fair means or foul.
CIA under secretary for southern hemispherical affairs, William Spencer, has
been drafted to Santiago de Chile to analyze the "Venezuelan situation" with
CIA country directors from Colombia, Ecuador, Brasil and Peru. Spencer is
reportedly convinced that Chavez Frias intends (no matter how fanciful) to
create two centers of "revolutionary focus" in South America in preparation
to overthrow Colombian President Alvaro Uribe Velez and Bolivia's Head of
State, Carlos Mesa.
Spencer espouses the theory that Chavez Frias will then forge onwards using
a domino effect to include the overthrow of Peru's Alejandro Toledo, using
multiple corruption scandals there as a pretext for invasion. Washington
apparently sees Chavez Frias' progress as a "corrosive action" in a
continuing Bolivarian Revolution which will expand easily into countries
such as Ecuador where indigenous political are already reacting strongly to
Washington's ideas of neo-liberalism.
President Hugo Chavez Frias
The CIA contingency plan against President Hugo Chavez Frias seemingly also
includes Argentina and Brazil in the Venezuelan leader's dastardly designs
against US Homeland Security ... inciting South American nations further
into "contagious anti-USA prejudices..."
According to the Madrid newspaper it is no coincidence that the US CIA
delegates have gathered in Chile which is considered by Langley and Crawford
(Texas) as the "last bastion of democracy and pro-US economic policies in
South America." They are elaborating a financial strategy in cooperation
with US Treasury officials and the Pentagon aimed at covering all possible
loopholes in the anti-socialist strategy and to halt Chavez Frias
"overwhelming ambition" to "transform Latin America into an impregnable
replica of Fidel Castro's Cuba..."
Part of the CIA strategy reveals a plot to have Movimiento Quinta Republica
(MVR) suspend the referendum using the argument that serious irregularities
have been detected ... alternatively that a conspiracy has been uncovered to
assassinate Chavez Frias before the result is known. "In such a scenario
.... if a State of Emergency is declared, the referendum, would be suspended
indefinitely along with Constitutional guarantees and the Congress would be
dissolved and public protests would immediately be ruled unlawful."
A second scenario would be the fraudulent manipulation of the voting results
and the repression of whatever protests that would be called by the
opposition Coordinadora Democratica (CD) alliance. Whichever way, Chavez
Frias will use to take whatever means necessary to avoid new elections
taking place...
http://www.vheadline.com/printer_news.asp?id=22356
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A pattern of deception
A hard truth appears to have escaped the notice of the public and received
scant attention from the media: Bush is the first president in American
history to use deceptive propaganda as his main means of communications in
selling his policies. His pattern of deception continues unabated and in
direct conflict with the notion of the public's informed consent that is
central to American democracy.
Walter Williams is professor emeritus at the University of Washington's
Evans School of Public Affairs.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/opinion/6378746.htm
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| User: "NoPlutocracyUSA" |
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13 Aug 2004 09:57:39 AM |
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"NotBush2004" <NotBush@WhiteHouse.Gov> wrote in message
news:d0iSc.25007$AT.24050@roc.nntpserver.com...
This is plain wrong. If Chavez wins a recall, Bush is a chickenshit to
turn
the CIA loose on him.
---------------------------------------------------------
CIA executives gathered in Santiago de Chile revealed in contingency plot
to
overthrow Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez Frias
President Hugo Chavez Frias
Venezuela state-owned news agency VENPRES is quoting an El Mundo de Madrid
(Spain) report that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is set to put
a
contingency plan in motion in the (likely) event that President Hugo
Chavez
Frias wins next weekend's Recall Referendum.
The Madrid newspaper says that the White House strategy is to avoid a
regional expansion of the President Hugo Chavez Frias 'Bolivarian
Revolution' which is seen by Washington D.C. as a direct step into the
kind
of socialism espoused by many European nations and envisaged in the United
States if John Kerry wrests control of the White House from the Bush 2
administration this coming fall.
El Mundo says the CIA plan appears to concede a Chavez Frias victory next
weekend "for good or bad" and that Langley spooks are already working on a
strategy to "neutralize" Chavez Frias by fair means or foul.
CIA under secretary for southern hemispherical affairs, William Spencer,
has
been drafted to Santiago de Chile to analyze the "Venezuelan situation"
with
CIA country directors from Colombia, Ecuador, Brasil and Peru. Spencer is
reportedly convinced that Chavez Frias intends (no matter how fanciful) to
create two centers of "revolutionary focus" in South America in
preparation
to overthrow Colombian President Alvaro Uribe Velez and Bolivia's Head of
State, Carlos Mesa.
Spencer espouses the theory that Chavez Frias will then forge onwards
using
a domino effect to include the overthrow of Peru's Alejandro Toledo, using
multiple corruption scandals there as a pretext for invasion. Washington
apparently sees Chavez Frias' progress as a "corrosive action" in a
continuing Bolivarian Revolution which will expand easily into countries
such as Ecuador where indigenous political are already reacting strongly
to
Washington's ideas of neo-liberalism.
President Hugo Chavez Frias
The CIA contingency plan against President Hugo Chavez Frias seemingly
also
includes Argentina and Brazil in the Venezuelan leader's dastardly designs
against US Homeland Security ... inciting South American nations further
into "contagious anti-USA prejudices..."
According to the Madrid newspaper it is no coincidence that the US CIA
delegates have gathered in Chile which is considered by Langley and
Crawford
(Texas) as the "last bastion of democracy and pro-US economic policies in
South America." They are elaborating a financial strategy in cooperation
with US Treasury officials and the Pentagon aimed at covering all possible
loopholes in the anti-socialist strategy and to halt Chavez Frias
"overwhelming ambition" to "transform Latin America into an impregnable
replica of Fidel Castro's Cuba..."
Part of the CIA strategy reveals a plot to have Movimiento Quinta
Republica
(MVR) suspend the referendum using the argument that serious
irregularities
have been detected ... alternatively that a conspiracy has been uncovered
to
assassinate Chavez Frias before the result is known. "In such a scenario
... if a State of Emergency is declared, the referendum, would be
suspended
indefinitely along with Constitutional guarantees and the Congress would
be
dissolved and public protests would immediately be ruled unlawful."
A second scenario would be the fraudulent manipulation of the voting
results
and the repression of whatever protests that would be called by the
opposition Coordinadora Democratica (CD) alliance. Whichever way, Chavez
Frias will use to take whatever means necessary to avoid new elections
taking place...
http://www.vheadline.com/printer_news.asp?id=22356
So, just like Chile in 1973, the repug slime in the white house seek to
overthrow the government of a Latin American country whose population vastly
support the president. Democracy means nothing to the Bushfilth repugs,
just as it meant nothing to Nixon and Kissinger. They preach Democracy, but
every time they see it they do everything they can to kill it.
This is how Kissinger rationalized orchestrating the military coup that
overthrew the popularly elected Allende: "I don't see why we need to stand
by and watch a country go communist because of the irresponsibility of its
own people."
As if we have the right to judge the people of a foreign country
"irresponsible" and overthrow the president they elect. Oh, but that's
right, we're talking about repugs. With repugs, might gives right, and
ordinary people don't matter. The only people that matter to Bushfilth
repugs are those making over $300k a year. There aren't too many of those
in Venezuela. Mostly just poor folk trying desperately to get by.
Chavez has been the best thing to happen to the people of Venezuela in a
century. He is totally on the side of the vast majority of Venezuelan
citizens, fighting against brutally corrupt big business interests that have
exploited the people of that country for generations.
Nixon, Kissinger, and everyone involved in the CIA should have been strung
up for the war crime of overthrowing Allende in Chile in 1973. The people
loved Allende. He offered hope for freedom from the toil of exploitation by
big US business interests that controlled the puppet strings of the previous
corrupt Chilean government. The CIA overthrew Allende and planted in his
place the brutal dictator Pinochet who slaughtered citizens by the
thousands.
Now the Bushfilth repugs are working with the CIA to do the same thing in
Venezuela. This is a war crime. The international community should loudly
and overwhelmingly condemn the Bush cabal for planning it. Perhaps that
would put enough pressure on the Bushfilth to not allow them to get away
with it in the next three months.
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| User: "OrionCA" |
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14 Aug 2004 12:23:44 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:57:39 -0700, "NoPlutocracyUSA"
<person332XFG400201@adelphia.net> wrote:
So, just like Chile in 1973, the repug slime in the white house seek to
overthrow the government of a Latin American country
alt.fan.conspiracy is looking for you. You wandered away again.
--
Kerry nails himself:
"Don't get suckered into the how many years you've been
in one job or this job" debate, Kerry said. "You've got
people in [Washington] who have been in one job [for]
30 years of what you call experience, and they have done
nothing, They don't stand for anything and they don't
know how to fight."
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1802&u=/washpost/20040711/ts_washpost/a41190_2004jul10&printer=1
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| User: "NoPlutocracyUSA" |
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15 Aug 2004 09:32:39 AM |
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"OrionCA" <pandakat@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:5kish0duhdbu82kfofdnb8u453mfhqj5lc@4ax.com...
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:57:39 -0700, "NoPlutocracyUSA"
<person332XFG400201@adelphia.net> wrote:
So, just like Chile in 1973, the repug slime in the white house seek to
overthrow the government of a Latin American country
alt.fan.conspiracy is looking for you. You wandered away again.
--
Only an ignorant, idiot repug would refer to an historical incident that is
thoroughly documented as fact (admitted to by Nixon and Kissinger in the
Nixon tapes) as a conspiracy theory.
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| User: "Lance Lamboy" |
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15 Aug 2004 09:42:35 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 07:32:39 -0700, NoPlutocracyUSA wrote:
"OrionCA" <pandakat@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:5kish0duhdbu82kfofdnb8u453mfhqj5lc@4ax.com...
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:57:39 -0700, "NoPlutocracyUSA"
<person332XFG400201@adelphia.net> wrote:
So, just like Chile in 1973, the repug slime in the white house seek
to overthrow the government of a Latin American country
alt.fan.conspiracy is looking for you. You wandered away again. --
Only an ignorant, idiot repug would refer to an historical incident that
is thoroughly documented as fact (admitted to by Nixon and Kissinger in
the Nixon tapes) as a conspiracy theory.
The standard Republican definition of "conspiracy theory" includes factual
accounts of Republican activities. It does not include unsubstantiated,
bizarre stories about Clinton or his penis.
--
Lance Lamboy
"Go F*ck Yourself" ~ ***** Cheney
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| User: "Lance Lamboy" |
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14 Aug 2004 10:22:26 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:57:39 -0700, NoPlutocracyUSA wrote:
"NotBush2004" <NotBush@WhiteHouse.Gov> wrote in message
news:d0iSc.25007$AT.24050@roc.nntpserver.com...
This is plain wrong. If Chavez wins a recall, Bush is a chickenshit to
turn
the CIA loose on him.
---------------------------------------------------------
CIA executives gathered in Santiago de Chile revealed in contingency
plot
to
overthrow Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez Frias
President Hugo Chavez Frias
Venezuela state-owned news agency VENPRES is quoting an El Mundo de
Madrid (Spain) report that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is
set to put
a
contingency plan in motion in the (likely) event that President Hugo
Chavez
Frias wins next weekend's Recall Referendum.
The Madrid newspaper says that the White House strategy is to avoid a
regional expansion of the President Hugo Chavez Frias 'Bolivarian
Revolution' which is seen by Washington D.C. as a direct step into the
kind
of socialism espoused by many European nations and envisaged in the
United States if John Kerry wrests control of the White House from the
Bush 2 administration this coming fall.
El Mundo says the CIA plan appears to concede a Chavez Frias victory
next weekend "for good or bad" and that Langley spooks are already
working on a strategy to "neutralize" Chavez Frias by fair means or
foul.
CIA under secretary for southern hemispherical affairs, William
Spencer,
has
been drafted to Santiago de Chile to analyze the "Venezuelan situation"
with
CIA country directors from Colombia, Ecuador, Brasil and Peru. Spencer
is reportedly convinced that Chavez Frias intends (no matter how
fanciful) to create two centers of "revolutionary focus" in South
America in
preparation
to overthrow Colombian President Alvaro Uribe Velez and Bolivia's Head
of State, Carlos Mesa.
Spencer espouses the theory that Chavez Frias will then forge onwards
using
a domino effect to include the overthrow of Peru's Alejandro Toledo,
using multiple corruption scandals there as a pretext for invasion.
Washington apparently sees Chavez Frias' progress as a "corrosive
action" in a continuing Bolivarian Revolution which will expand easily
into countries such as Ecuador where indigenous political are already
reacting strongly
to
Washington's ideas of neo-liberalism.
President Hugo Chavez Frias
The CIA contingency plan against President Hugo Chavez Frias seemingly
also
includes Argentina and Brazil in the Venezuelan leader's dastardly
designs against US Homeland Security ... inciting South American
nations further into "contagious anti-USA prejudices..."
According to the Madrid newspaper it is no coincidence that the US CIA
delegates have gathered in Chile which is considered by Langley and
Crawford
(Texas) as the "last bastion of democracy and pro-US economic policies
in South America." They are elaborating a financial strategy in
cooperation with US Treasury officials and the Pentagon aimed at
covering all possible loopholes in the anti-socialist strategy and to
halt Chavez Frias "overwhelming ambition" to "transform Latin America
into an impregnable replica of Fidel Castro's Cuba..."
Part of the CIA strategy reveals a plot to have Movimiento Quinta
Republica
(MVR) suspend the referendum using the argument that serious
irregularities
have been detected ... alternatively that a conspiracy has been
uncovered
to
assassinate Chavez Frias before the result is known. "In such a
scenario ... if a State of Emergency is declared, the referendum, would
be
suspended
indefinitely along with Constitutional guarantees and the Congress
would
be
dissolved and public protests would immediately be ruled unlawful."
A second scenario would be the fraudulent manipulation of the voting
results
and the repression of whatever protests that would be called by the
opposition Coordinadora Democratica (CD) alliance. Whichever way,
Chavez Frias will use to take whatever means necessary to avoid new
elections taking place...
http://www.vheadline.com/printer_news.asp?id=22356
So, just like Chile in 1973, the repug slime in the white house seek to
overthrow the government of a Latin American country whose population
vastly support the president. Democracy means nothing to the Bushfilth
repugs, just as it meant nothing to Nixon and Kissinger. They preach
Democracy, but every time they see it they do everything they can to
kill it.
This is how Kissinger rationalized orchestrating the military coup that
overthrew the popularly elected Allende: "I don't see why we need to
stand by and watch a country go communist because of the
irresponsibility of its own people."
As if we have the right to judge the people of a foreign country
"irresponsible" and overthrow the president they elect. Oh, but that's
right, we're talking about repugs. With repugs, might gives right, and
ordinary people don't matter. The only people that matter to Bushfilth
repugs are those making over $300k a year. There aren't too many of
those in Venezuela. Mostly just poor folk trying desperately to get by.
Chavez has been the best thing to happen to the people of Venezuela in a
century. He is totally on the side of the vast majority of Venezuelan
citizens, fighting against brutally corrupt big business interests that
have exploited the people of that country for generations.
Nixon, Kissinger, and everyone involved in the CIA should have been
strung up for the war crime of overthrowing Allende in Chile in 1973.
The people loved Allende. He offered hope for freedom from the toil of
exploitation by big US business interests that controlled the puppet
strings of the previous corrupt Chilean government. The CIA overthrew
Allende and planted in his place the brutal dictator Pinochet who
slaughtered citizens by the thousands.
Now the Bushfilth repugs are working with the CIA to do the same thing
in Venezuela. This is a war crime. The international community should
loudly and overwhelmingly condemn the Bush cabal for planning it.
Perhaps that would put enough pressure on the Bushfilth to not allow
them to get away with it in the next three months.
If the people of Venezuala can elect their own president in free and fair
elections, then sooner or later Americans will want free and fair
elections too.
--
Lance Lamboy
"Go F*ck Yourself" ~ ***** Cheney
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14 Aug 2004 11:48:03 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:22:26 -0400, "Lance Lamboy"
<lance.lamboy@lamboy.nospam.com> wrote:
If the people of Venezuala can elect their own president in free and fair
elections, then sooner or later Americans will want free and fair
elections too.
America is a great country. A place where even the President can dream
of some day be ELECTED president.
- - - -
Just another albino black sheep
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11 Aug 2004 04:31:30 PM |
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"NotBush2004" <NotBush@WhiteHouse.Gov> wrote in message news:<d0iSc.25007$AT.24050@roc.nntpserver.com>...
This is plain wrong. If Chavez wins a recall, Bush is a chickenshit to turn
the CIA loose on him.
Goss Blocked Efforts to Investigate Abu Ghraib: As chairman of the
House Intelligence Committee, Goss led a party-line vote to reject an
amendment that would have "Increased oversight and investigated
alleged prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib." [Congressional Quarterly,
6/17/04]
As chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Goss led a party-line
vote to reject an amendment that would have authorized an
investigation into "U.S. dealings with Iraqi exile leader Ahmed
Chalabi." Even after allegations that Chalabi has leaked U.S. military
secrets to Iran, Goss said, "I would say that the oversight has worked
well in matters relating to Mr. Chalabi." (Congressional Quarterly,
6/17/04)
"Rep. Porter Goss said Thursday that the uproar over allegations that
White House officials purposely identified a covert CIA
agent...doesn't yet merit an investigation by the House Select
Committee on Intelligence, which he chairs...'Somebody sends me a blue
dress and some DNA, I'll have an investigation.'"
Conservatives hate Americans.
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| User: "Grain of Sand" |
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11 Aug 2004 08:27:48 AM |
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In article <d0iSc.25007$AT.24050@roc.nntpserver.com>,
"NotBush2004" <NotBush@WhiteHouse.Gov> wrote:
This is plain wrong. If Chavez wins a recall, Bush is a chickenshit to turn
the CIA loose on him.
---------------------------------------------------------
CIA executives gathered in Santiago de Chile revealed in contingency plot to
overthrow Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez Frias
President Hugo Chavez Frias
Venezuela state-owned news agency VENPRES is quoting an El Mundo de Madrid
(Spain) report that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is set to put a
contingency plan in motion in the (likely) event that President Hugo Chavez
Frias wins next weekend's Recall Referendum.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2549589.stm
US dependence
The ability of Venezuela to continue pumping oil also has wider
implications for oil markets around the world.
Venezuela is the fifth largest oil exporter in the world, and supplies
about 13% of daily oil imports into the US.
Kepp your eye on the news from Venezuela on the 15th.
--
" Victory breeds hatred. The defeated live in pain. Happily
the peaceful live, giving up victory and defeat." - Dhammapada
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/sbe10/
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| User: "Arizona Bushwhacker" |
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11 Aug 2004 12:26:28 AM |
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Was there ever any doubt that Bush would appoint
someone who's only goal in life would be to look the
other way every time Bush commits a crime against
America???
"NotBush2004" <NotBush@WhiteHouse.Gov> wrote in message
news:d0iSc.25007$AT.24050@roc.nntpserver.com...
This is plain wrong. If Chavez wins a recall, Bush is a chickenshit to
turn
the CIA loose on him.
---------------------------------------------------------
CIA executives gathered in Santiago de Chile revealed in contingency plot
to
overthrow Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez Frias
President Hugo Chavez Frias
Venezuela state-owned news agency VENPRES is quoting an El Mundo de Madrid
(Spain) report that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is set to put
a
contingency plan in motion in the (likely) event that President Hugo
Chavez
Frias wins next weekend's Recall Referendum.
The Madrid newspaper says that the White House strategy is to avoid a
regional expansion of the President Hugo Chavez Frias 'Bolivarian
Revolution' which is seen by Washington D.C. as a direct step into the
kind
of socialism espoused by many European nations and envisaged in the United
States if John Kerry wrests control of the White House from the Bush 2
administration this coming fall.
El Mundo says the CIA plan appears to concede a Chavez Frias victory next
weekend "for good or bad" and that Langley spooks are already working on a
strategy to "neutralize" Chavez Frias by fair means or foul.
CIA under secretary for southern hemispherical affairs, William Spencer,
has
been drafted to Santiago de Chile to analyze the "Venezuelan situation"
with
CIA country directors from Colombia, Ecuador, Brasil and Peru. Spencer is
reportedly convinced that Chavez Frias intends (no matter how fanciful) to
create two centers of "revolutionary focus" in South America in
preparation
to overthrow Colombian President Alvaro Uribe Velez and Bolivia's Head of
State, Carlos Mesa.
Spencer espouses the theory that Chavez Frias will then forge onwards
using
a domino effect to include the overthrow of Peru's Alejandro Toledo, using
multiple corruption scandals there as a pretext for invasion. Washington
apparently sees Chavez Frias' progress as a "corrosive action" in a
continuing Bolivarian Revolution which will expand easily into countries
such as Ecuador where indigenous political are already reacting strongly
to
Washington's ideas of neo-liberalism.
President Hugo Chavez Frias
The CIA contingency plan against President Hugo Chavez Frias seemingly
also
includes Argentina and Brazil in the Venezuelan leader's dastardly designs
against US Homeland Security ... inciting South American nations further
into "contagious anti-USA prejudices..."
According to the Madrid newspaper it is no coincidence that the US CIA
delegates have gathered in Chile which is considered by Langley and
Crawford
(Texas) as the "last bastion of democracy and pro-US economic policies in
South America." They are elaborating a financial strategy in cooperation
with US Treasury officials and the Pentagon aimed at covering all possible
loopholes in the anti-socialist strategy and to halt Chavez Frias
"overwhelming ambition" to "transform Latin America into an impregnable
replica of Fidel Castro's Cuba..."
Part of the CIA strategy reveals a plot to have Movimiento Quinta
Republica
(MVR) suspend the referendum using the argument that serious
irregularities
have been detected ... alternatively that a conspiracy has been uncovered
to
assassinate Chavez Frias before the result is known. "In such a scenario
... if a State of Emergency is declared, the referendum, would be
suspended
indefinitely along with Constitutional guarantees and the Congress would
be
dissolved and public protests would immediately be ruled unlawful."
A second scenario would be the fraudulent manipulation of the voting
results
and the repression of whatever protests that would be called by the
opposition Coordinadora Democratica (CD) alliance. Whichever way, Chavez
Frias will use to take whatever means necessary to avoid new elections
taking place...
http://www.vheadline.com/printer_news.asp?id=22356
--
A pattern of deception
A hard truth appears to have escaped the notice of the public and received
scant attention from the media: Bush is the first president in American
history to use deceptive propaganda as his main means of communications in
selling his policies. His pattern of deception continues unabated and in
direct conflict with the notion of the public's informed consent that is
central to American democracy.
Walter Williams is professor emeritus at the University of Washington's
Evans School of Public Affairs.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/opinion/6378746.htm
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| User: "Bob" |
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11 Aug 2004 08:36:01 AM |
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"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushwhatcher@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42iSc.24294$ih.5428@fed1read07...
Was there ever any doubt that Bush would appoint
someone who's only goal in life would be to look the
other way every time Bush commits a crime against
America???
If the Democrats oppose this appointment,
they will pay at the polls for obstructing
the intelligence community once again.
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| User: "" |
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12 Aug 2004 09:02:13 AM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:TgpSc.10055$5i4.8699@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushwhatcher@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42iSc.24294$ih.5428@fed1read07...
Was there ever any doubt that Bush would appoint
someone who's only goal in life would be to look the
other way every time Bush commits a crime against
America???
If the Democrats oppose this appointment,
they will pay at the polls for obstructing
the intelligence community once again.
Since you mention obstruction the intelligence community.
What do you call it when a republican supporting reporter leaks the identity
of a CIA opperative ????
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| User: "Bob" |
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12 Aug 2004 06:28:27 PM |
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Was there ever any doubt that Bush would appoint
someone who's only goal in life would be to look the
other way every time Bush commits a crime against
America???
If the Democrats oppose this appointment,
they will pay at the polls for obstructing
the intelligence community once again.
Since you mention obstruction the intelligence community.
What do you call it when a republican supporting reporter leaks the identity
of a CIA opperative ????
I try not to make judgements like that
based on party affiliation. If a law was
broken, off to jail.
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Was there ever any doubt that Bush would appoint
someone who's only goal in life would be to look the
other way every time Bush commits a crime against
America???
If the Democrats oppose this appointment,
they will pay at the polls for obstructing
the intelligence community once again.
Since you mention obstruction the intelligence community.
What do you call it when a republican supporting reporter leaks the
identity
of a CIA opperative ????
I try not to make judgements like that
based on party affiliation. If a law was
broken, off to jail.
Well if there is justice, the incumbant administration will pay for it at
the polls in November.
I hope so, or else the entire middle class will continue having to pick up
the check to make corporations rich.
If the incumbants stay, America will possibly have to pay for a constitution
tainted by campain driven tampering.
Here's an idea. Let's build our beloved nation better that her citizens can
say "In America we trust".
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Was there ever any doubt that Bush would appoint
someone who's only goal in life would be to look the
other way every time Bush commits a crime against
America???
If the Democrats oppose this appointment,
they will pay at the polls for obstructing
the intelligence community once again.
Since you mention obstruction the intelligence community.
What do you call it when a republican supporting reporter leaks the
identity
of a CIA opperative ????
I try not to make judgements like that
based on party affiliation. If a law was
broken, off to jail.
Well if there is justice, the incumbant administration will pay for it at
the polls in November.
I prefer to wait until the facts are known,
don't you?
I hope so, or else the entire middle class will continue having to pick up
the check to make corporations rich.
What are you talking about here?
If the incumbants stay, America will possibly have to pay for a constitution
tainted by campain driven tampering.
The biggest danger to our Constitution
are activist judges.
Here's an idea. Let's build our beloved nation better that her citizens can
say "In America we trust".
Ok by me.
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21 Aug 2004 09:01:28 PM |
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Was there ever any doubt that Bush would appoint
someone who's only goal in life would be to look the
other way every time Bush commits a crime against
America???
If the Democrats oppose this appointment,
they will pay at the polls for obstructing
the intelligence community once again.
Since you mention obstruction the intelligence community.
What do you call it when a republican supporting reporter leaks the
identity
of a CIA operative ????
I try not to make judgments like that
based on party affiliation. If a law was
broken, off to jail.
Well if there is justice, the incumbant administration will pay for it
at
the polls in November.
I prefer to wait until the facts are known,
don't you?
What makes you think they are in any way interested in delivering the facts.
Wasn't the Bush administration "waiting for facts" while ignoring the
previous administrations claim an attack would be made on US soil ???
Goss was asked for an investigation of the information leak. He proudly
responded with something like "you show me a stained dress and I'll start an
investigation".
So he's responding with a bipartisan remark that undermines his dedication
to the potion ?
Don't wait for any facts, he's in the Bush administration's back pocket, and
will not investigate the offense.
The leaking the CIA operative's identity was to intimidate and prevent
speaking out.
He is not the right man for the job if he doesn't take the leak seriously.
I hope so, or else the entire middle class will continue having to pick
up
the check to make corporations rich.
What are you talking about here?
Lou Dobbs "outsourcing America".
Republicans will tell you we waste too much money on the poor.
What they don't tell you is all the tax dollars they forfeit for the benefit
for Rich Dynasties.
The ratio of average worker's salary compared to a CEO's has grown
exponentially.
Companies need cheap labor because of the astronomical premium they are
having to pay for CEO's salaries.
It's a legal form of embezzlement. The middle class should not have to
tolerate it.
Trickle down doesn't work. If you really want to drive the economy with
fiscal responsibility, you benefit the middle class.
Who is going to support a growing economy on underemployment and
unemployment ??
If the incumbents stay, America will possibly have to pay for a
constitution
tainted by campaign driven tampering.
The biggest danger to our Constitution
are activist judges.
How are they a threat ? Please explain. I've heard your statement before.
Judges are not trying to change the constitution.
How are they the threat, and the Bush Administration, who wants to change
the constitution not a threat ?
If you don't believe Bush has some never proposing to change the
constitution.
Consider the fact how his election was so close and controversial. He wants
to change a founding document of our nation for a right wing agenda.
Why does he want to do that. It's disrespectful to all of those who give
their lives fighting for American freedoms and liberties.
I consider writing bigotry into our constitution unpatriotic and even
treasonous.
They should respect the constitution more. They should respect US citizen's
liberties more.
Here's an idea. Let's build our beloved nation better that her citizens
can
say "In America we trust".
Ok by me.
Can you trust America when one side of our political parties strive to
change the constitution for a political wedge issue ???
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| User: "" |
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11 Aug 2004 10:22:24 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 08:36:01 -0500, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushwhatcher@cox.net> wrote in message
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Was there ever any doubt that Bush would appoint
someone who's only goal in life would be to look the
other way every time Bush commits a crime against
America???
If the Democrats oppose this appointment,
they will pay at the polls for obstructing
the intelligence community once again.
Nah, they'll simply appoint someone better. He's be identified before
December and getting transition briefings before inauguration.
- - - -
Just another albino black sheep
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11 Aug 2004 09:22:51 AM |
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bob sez:
"If the Democrats oppose this appointment,
they will pay at the polls for obstructing
the intelligence community once again..."
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If?
The Democrats will oppose Goss's appointment because they are genetically
programmed to be assholes.
Pelosi is frothing at the mouth and incoherent as she flails about looking
for some way to bash Bush. She is even biting her fellow Democrats in her
frenzy, e.g., "Let's not try to find reasons why we should stay home, we
shouldn't come here, we shouldn't do this, and this. We have a
responsibility, we have a job to do. The question is why aren't we here
doing it," Pelosi said after a specially called meeting of House Democrats
in Washington, D.C., attended by roughly half the caucus.
Some of the members of the caucus figure she's had a blowout somewhere in
her little pointy head, but nobosy has the guts to stand up and say
something.
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11 Aug 2004 12:17:57 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:22:51 GMT, "Fucky Wucky" <mrFuck@lst.net>
wrote:
bob sez:
"If the Democrats oppose this appointment,
they will pay at the polls for obstructing
the intelligence community once again..."
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If?
The Democrats will oppose Goss's appointment because they are genetically
programmed to be assholes.
Pelosi is frothing at the mouth and incoherent as she flails about looking
for some way to bash Bush. She is even biting her fellow Democrats in her
frenzy, e.g., "Let's not try to find reasons why we should stay home, we
shouldn't come here, we shouldn't do this, and this. We have a
responsibility, we have a job to do. The question is why aren't we here
doing it," Pelosi said after a specially called meeting of House Democrats
in Washington, D.C., attended by roughly half the caucus.
Some of the members of the caucus figure she's had a blowout somewhere in
her little pointy head, but nobosy has the guts to stand up and say
something.
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11 Aug 2004 12:24:22 AM |
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"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushwhatcher@cox.net> wrote in message
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Was there ever any doubt that Bush would appoint
someone who's only goal in life would be to look the
other way every time Bush commits a crime against
America???
Non whatsoever. It's been the Bush administration's MO since they were
appointed.
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President Bush: Flip-Flopper-In-Chief
July 7, 2004
From the beginning, George W. Bush has made his own credibility a central
issue. On 10/11/00, then-Gov. Bush said: "I think credibility is
important.It is going to be important for the president to be credible with
Congress, important for the president to be credible with foreign nations."
But President Bush's serial flip-flopping raises serious questions about
whether Congress and foreign leaders can rely on what he says.
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=42263
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This is plain wrong. If Chavez wins a recall, Bush is a chickenshit to
turn
the CIA loose on him.
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CIA executives gathered in Santiago de Chile revealed in contingency
plot
to
overthrow Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez Frias
President Hugo Chavez Frias
Venezuela state-owned news agency VENPRES is quoting an El Mundo de
Madrid
(Spain) report that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is set to
put
a
contingency plan in motion in the (likely) event that President Hugo
Chavez
Frias wins next weekend's Recall Referendum.
The Madrid newspaper says that the White House strategy is to avoid a
regional expansion of the President Hugo Chavez Frias 'Bolivarian
Revolution' which is seen by Washington D.C. as a direct step into the
kind
of socialism espoused by many European nations and envisaged in the
United
States if John Kerry wrests control of the White House from the Bush 2
administration this coming fall.
El Mundo says the CIA plan appears to concede a Chavez Frias victory
next
weekend "for good or bad" and that Langley spooks are already working on
a
strategy to "neutralize" Chavez Frias by fair means or foul.
CIA under secretary for southern hemispherical affairs, William Spencer,
has
been drafted to Santiago de Chile to analyze the "Venezuelan situation"
with
CIA country directors from Colombia, Ecuador, Brasil and Peru. Spencer
is
reportedly convinced that Chavez Frias intends (no matter how fanciful)
to
create two centers of "revolutionary focus" in South America in
preparation
to overthrow Colombian President Alvaro Uribe Velez and Bolivia's Head
of
State, Carlos Mesa.
Spencer espouses the theory that Chavez Frias will then forge onwards
using
a domino effect to include the overthrow of Peru's Alejandro Toledo,
using
multiple corruption scandals there as a pretext for invasion.
Washington
apparently sees Chavez Frias' progress as a "corrosive action" in a
continuing Bolivarian Revolution which will expand easily into countries
such as Ecuador where indigenous political are already reacting strongly
to
Washington's ideas of neo-liberalism.
President Hugo Chavez Frias
The CIA contingency plan against President Hugo Chavez Frias seemingly
also
includes Argentina and Brazil in the Venezuelan leader's dastardly
designs
against US Homeland Security ... inciting South American nations further
into "contagious anti-USA prejudices..."
According to the Madrid newspaper it is no coincidence that the US CIA
delegates have gathered in Chile which is considered by Langley and
Crawford
(Texas) as the "last bastion of democracy and pro-US economic policies
in
South America." They are elaborating a financial strategy in
cooperation
with US Treasury officials and the Pentagon aimed at covering all
possible
loopholes in the anti-socialist strategy and to halt Chavez Frias
"overwhelming ambition" to "transform Latin America into an impregnable
replica of Fidel Castro's Cuba..."
Part of the CIA strategy reveals a plot to have Movimiento Quinta
Republica
(MVR) suspend the referendum using the argument that serious
irregularities
have been detected ... alternatively that a conspiracy has been
uncovered
to
assassinate Chavez Frias before the result is known. "In such a
scenario
... if a State of Emergency is declared, the referendum, would be
suspended
indefinitely along with Constitutional guarantees and the Congress would
be
dissolved and public protests would immediately be ruled unlawful."
A second scenario would be the fraudulent manipulation of the voting
results
and the repression of whatever protests that would be called by the
opposition Coordinadora Democratica (CD) alliance. Whichever way,
Chavez
Frias will use to take whatever means necessary to avoid new elections
taking place...
http://www.vheadline.com/printer_news.asp?id=22356
--
A pattern of deception
A hard truth appears to have escaped the notice of the public and
received
scant attention from the media: Bush is the first president in American
history to use deceptive propaganda as his main means of communications
in
selling his policies. His pattern of deception continues unabated and in
direct conflict with the notion of the public's informed consent that is
central to American democracy.
Walter Williams is professor emeritus at the University of Washington's
Evans School of Public Affairs.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/opinion/6378746.htm
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