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"Tuttles Almanac" |
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07 Dec 2005 05:22:26 PM |
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Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech Calls Bush-Blair War Criminals |
Bush and Blair slated by Pinter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4505874.stm
George W Bush and Tony Blair must be held to account for
feeding the public "a vast tapestry of lies" about
the Iraq war, writer Harold Pinter said.
The playwright launched a scathing attack on US and
UK politicians in his lecture as winner of this year's
Nobel Prize for Literature.
Most politicians "are interested not in truth but in
power and the maintenance of that power", the 75-year-old said.
His speech was pre-recorded as Pinter was admitted to hospital this week.
'Live in ignorance'
Pinter, whose plays include The Birthday Party and Betrayal,
was announced the winner of the $1.3m (£740,000) cash prize in October.
On Wednesday his lecture, entitled Art, Truth and Politics,
studied the importance of truth in art before decrying its
perceived absence in politics.
He said politicians feel it is "essential that people remain
in ignorance, that they live in ignorance of the truth, even
the truth of their own lives".
Pinter said the US justification for invading Iraq - that Saddam Hussein
possessed weapons of mass destruction - "was not true".
"The truth is something entirely different," Pinter added.
"The truth is to do with how the United States understands
its role in the world and how it chooses to embody it."
Pinter said that since World War II the US government "supported
and in many cases engendered every right-wing military dictatorship
in the world".
"I refer to Indonesia, Greece, Uruguay, Brazil, Paraguay, Haiti,
Turkey, the Philippines, Guatemala, El Salvador and, of course, Chile."
'Bleating lamb'
He added: "You have to hand it to America. It has exercised
a quite clinical manipulation of power worldwide while
masquerading as a force for universal good."
Referring to Blair's support for the US-led war on Iraq,
Pinter described the "pathetic and supine" Great Britain
as "a bleating little lamb tagging behind (the US) on a lead".
He called for President Bush and Prime Minister Blair to be
"arraigned before the International Criminal Court of Justice".
"But Bush has been clever," Pinter said. "He has not ratified
the International Criminal Court of Justice."
Nevertheless he added that "thousands, if not millions"
of people in the US were "sickened, shamed and angered"
by their government's actions.
"As things stand they are not a coherent political force - yet."
Publisher Stephen Page will accept the Nobel Prize for
Literature on Pinter's behalf on Saturday.
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| User: "Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech Calls Bush-Blair War Criminals |
07 Dec 2005 05:34:33 PM |
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"Tuttle's Almanac"> Pinter said the US justification for invading Iraq -
that Saddam Hussein
possessed weapons of mass destruction - "was not true".
Even a Nobel Laureate knows merely this is not a lie.
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| User: "imp-Unity*4*Bush" |
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| Title: Re: Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech Calls Bush-Blair War Criminals |
08 Dec 2005 09:21:49 PM |
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On Dec 7, 2005, "Tuttle's Almanac" blatherously upchucked nonsensical
gnatherblab, most likely a religious inoculation aimed at THEE
mental-midget masses, resulting in no insurmountable
brain damage to the logical thinker...
Bush and Blair slated by Pinter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4505874.stm
I wonder, hmmm, nothing about this on war criminal accusation on
American cable media that I've seen, Right or Left...I guess we're
kinda like the Mooslime's I'lljizzinnthe-ear-eh? ... Spoon fed what
they want us to hear daily...
George W Bush and Tony Blair must be held to account for
feeding the public "a vast tapestry of lies" about
the Iraq war, writer Harold Pinter said.
The playwright launched a scathing attack on US and
UK politicians in his lecture as winner of this year's
Nobel Prize for Literature.
Most politicians "are interested not in truth but in
power and the maintenance of that power", the 75-year-old said.
His speech was pre-recorded as Pinter was admitted to hospital this week.
'Live in ignorance'
Pinter, whose plays include The Birthday Party and Betrayal,
was announced the winner of the $1.3m (£740,000) cash prize in October.
On Wednesday his lecture, entitled Art, Truth and Politics,
studied the importance of truth in art before decrying its
perceived absence in politics.
He said politicians feel it is "essential that people remain
in ignorance, that they live in ignorance of the truth, even
the truth of their own lives".
Pinter said the US justification for invading Iraq - that Saddam Hussein
possessed weapons of mass destruction - "was not true".
"The truth is something entirely different," Pinter added.
"The truth is to do with how the United States understands
its role in the world and how it chooses to embody it."
Pinter said that since World War II the US government "supported
and in many cases engendered every right-wing military dictatorship
in the world".
"I refer to Indonesia, Greece, Uruguay, Brazil, Paraguay, Haiti,
Turkey, the Philippines, Guatemala, El Salvador and, of course, Chile."
'Bleating lamb'
He added: "You have to hand it to America. It has exercised
a quite clinical manipulation of power worldwide while
masquerading as a force for universal good."
Referring to Blair's support for the US-led war on Iraq,
Pinter described the "pathetic and supine" Great Britain
as "a bleating little lamb tagging behind (the US) on a lead".
He called for President Bush and Prime Minister Blair to be
"arraigned before the International Criminal Court of Justice".
"But Bush has been clever," Pinter said. "He has not ratified
the International Criminal Court of Justice."
Nevertheless he added that "thousands, if not millions"
of people in the US were "sickened, shamed and angered"
by their government's actions.
"As things stand they are not a coherent political force - yet."
Publisher Stephen Page will accept the Nobel Prize for
Literature on Pinter's behalf on Saturday.
_______________________________________________
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Being Re-puke-lick-can stifles the free-thinker. There are two absolutes in
life; truth and fact. The GOP has zero-to-none ... .. . respectively ;)
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| User: "Neolibertarian" |
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| Title: Re: Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech Calls Bush-Blair War Criminals |
07 Dec 2005 08:22:44 PM |
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In article <11perliancffrca@corp.supernews.com>,
Tuttle's Almanac <Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:
Bush and Blair slated by Pinter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4505874.stm
George W Bush and Tony Blair must be held to account for
feeding the public "a vast tapestry of lies" about
the Iraq war, writer Harold Pinter said.
The playwright launched a scathing attack on US and
UK politicians in his lecture as winner of this year's
Nobel Prize for Literature.
It's always fun to see a playwright lecture world leaders on foreign
policy.
Almost as fun as Einstein claiming that wealth must be distributed
equally.
--
NeoLibertarian
Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech Calls Bush-Blair War Criminals |
07 Dec 2005 11:14:19 PM |
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Neolibertarian wrote:
In article <11perliancffrca@corp.supernews.com>,
Tuttle's Almanac <Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:
Bush and Blair slated by Pinter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4505874.stm
George W Bush and Tony Blair must be held to account for
feeding the public "a vast tapestry of lies" about
the Iraq war, writer Harold Pinter said.
The playwright launched a scathing attack on US and
UK politicians in his lecture as winner of this year's
Nobel Prize for Literature.
It's always fun to see a playwright lecture world leaders on foreign
policy.
Almost as fun as Einstein claiming that wealth must be distributed
equally.
Or a chickenhawk demanding we stay the course in Iraq.
--
NeoLibertarian
Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech Calls Bush-Blair War Criminals |
08 Dec 2005 04:01:16 PM |
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wrote:
Neolibertarian wrote:
In article <11perliancffrca@corp.supernews.com>,
Tuttle's Almanac <Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:
Bush and Blair slated by Pinter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4505874.stm
George W Bush and Tony Blair must be held to account for
feeding the public "a vast tapestry of lies" about
the Iraq war, writer Harold Pinter said.
The playwright launched a scathing attack on US and
UK politicians in his lecture as winner of this year's
Nobel Prize for Literature.
It's always fun to see a playwright lecture world leaders on foreign
policy.
Almost as fun as Einstein claiming that wealth must be distributed
equally.
Or a chickenhawk demanding we stay the course in Iraq.
To stay, or not to stay: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous false claims
Made by resentful loonies and their reckless leaders
And by opposing, fuel them? To lie; to claim
"War no more;" so the sheep then yell "Nazis!"
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NeoLibertarian
Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity.
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| User: "Hillary Clinton : Radlib KOOKs Enemy Number One" |
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| Title: Re: Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech Calls Bush-Blair War Criminals |
07 Dec 2005 05:37:51 PM |
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Since anyone, even multiple murderers can get a " Nobel Prize" it pretty
much means nothing.
Dec. 6 - KGO - The NAACP has launched a major campaign to spare Tookie
Williams' life. But will claims of redemption sway the governor as he
considers clemency?
Williams' supporters often cite his claim of redemption in prison and point
to children's books and Nobel Prize nominations as proof that he has
changed. But how much will such claims weigh on the governor as he considers
clemency?
In a letter to be mailed tomorrow (Wednesday), Professor Phil Gasper is
nominating death row inmate Stanley 'Tookie' Williams for the Nobel Peace
Prize.
It'll be Williams' sixth nomination since the Crips gang founder claimed
redemption.
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| User: "Winston Smith, American Patriot" |
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| Title: Re: Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech Calls Bush-Blair War Criminals |
08 Dec 2005 07:59:22 AM |
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"Hillary Clinton : Radlib KOOK's Enemy Number One"
<HillaryClintoon@Senate.gov> wrote in
news:4397722b$0$1209$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com:
Since anyone, even multiple murderers can get a " Nobel Prize" it
pretty much means nothing.
Absolutely right.
Henry Kissinger and Menachem Begin come to mind.
Nobel laureate murdering bastards and all-around misanthropes.
--
http://hume.realisticpolitics.com/
The real danger to the future of humanity is the preference
for surrendering to fear, superstition, and faith
in absolutist belief systems, and so to submit to these
willingly and to the control of those demagogues who
make use of these, rather than preferring
to reason with one's own mind.
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| User: "Red Sanders" |
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| Title: Re: Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech Calls Bush-Blair War Criminals |
07 Dec 2005 05:40:01 PM |
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"Hillary Clinton : Radlib KOOK's Enemy Number One"
<HillaryClintoon@Senate.gov> wrote in message
news:4397722b$0$1209$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com...
Since anyone, even multiple murderers can get a " Nobel Prize" it pretty
much means nothing.
Huh, I wasn't aware Bush was nominated
Dec. 6 - KGO - The NAACP has launched a major campaign to spare Tookie
Williams' life. But will claims of redemption sway the governor as he
considers clemency?
Williams' supporters often cite his claim of redemption in prison and
point
to children's books and Nobel Prize nominations as proof that he has
changed. But how much will such claims weigh on the governor as he
considers
clemency?
In a letter to be mailed tomorrow (Wednesday), Professor Phil Gasper is
nominating death row inmate Stanley 'Tookie' Williams for the Nobel Peace
Prize.
It'll be Williams' sixth nomination since the Crips gang founder claimed
redemption.
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| User: "Bubali" |
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| Title: Re: Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech Calls Bush-Blair War Criminals |
07 Dec 2005 06:51:37 PM |
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You don't need to get a Nobel prize to say the truth ...just a modicum of
brain (:-)
But to put the classy, charming, intelligent, sociable Blair on the same
level with
the retard American bozo, maybe, just maybe it is a bit of an exageration!
"Tuttle's Almanac" <Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote in message
news:11perliancffrca@corp.supernews.com...
Bush and Blair slated by Pinter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4505874.stm
George W Bush and Tony Blair must be held to account for
feeding the public "a vast tapestry of lies" about
the Iraq war, writer Harold Pinter said.
The playwright launched a scathing attack on US and
UK politicians in his lecture as winner of this year's
Nobel Prize for Literature.
Most politicians "are interested not in truth but in
power and the maintenance of that power", the 75-year-old said.
His speech was pre-recorded as Pinter was admitted to hospital this week.
'Live in ignorance'
Pinter, whose plays include The Birthday Party and Betrayal,
was announced the winner of the $1.3m (£740,000) cash prize in October.
On Wednesday his lecture, entitled Art, Truth and Politics,
studied the importance of truth in art before decrying its
perceived absence in politics.
He said politicians feel it is "essential that people remain
in ignorance, that they live in ignorance of the truth, even
the truth of their own lives".
Pinter said the US justification for invading Iraq - that Saddam Hussein
possessed weapons of mass destruction - "was not true".
"The truth is something entirely different," Pinter added.
"The truth is to do with how the United States understands
its role in the world and how it chooses to embody it."
Pinter said that since World War II the US government "supported
and in many cases engendered every right-wing military dictatorship
in the world".
"I refer to Indonesia, Greece, Uruguay, Brazil, Paraguay, Haiti,
Turkey, the Philippines, Guatemala, El Salvador and, of course, Chile."
'Bleating lamb'
He added: "You have to hand it to America. It has exercised
a quite clinical manipulation of power worldwide while
masquerading as a force for universal good."
Referring to Blair's support for the US-led war on Iraq,
Pinter described the "pathetic and supine" Great Britain
as "a bleating little lamb tagging behind (the US) on a lead".
He called for President Bush and Prime Minister Blair to be
"arraigned before the International Criminal Court of Justice".
"But Bush has been clever," Pinter said. "He has not ratified
the International Criminal Court of Justice."
Nevertheless he added that "thousands, if not millions"
of people in the US were "sickened, shamed and angered"
by their government's actions.
"As things stand they are not a coherent political force - yet."
Publisher Stephen Page will accept the Nobel Prize for
Literature on Pinter's behalf on Saturday.
_______________________________________________
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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07 Dec 2005 10:49:32 PM |
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On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:51:37 -0500, "Bubali" <dertytr@dromednam.com>
wrote:
You don't need to get a Nobel prize to say the truth ...just a modicum of
brain (:-)
But to put the classy, charming, intelligent, sociable Blair on the same
level with
the retard American bozo, maybe, just maybe it is a bit of an exageration!
So this guy gets the supreme prize for his craft. A once in a life
time thing and all he can think of saying is bad things about
politicians? What a goof.
"Tuttle's Almanac" <Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote in message
news:11perliancffrca@corp.supernews.com...
Bush and Blair slated by Pinter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4505874.stm
George W Bush and Tony Blair must be held to account for
feeding the public "a vast tapestry of lies" about
the Iraq war, writer Harold Pinter said.
The playwright launched a scathing attack on US and
UK politicians in his lecture as winner of this year's
Nobel Prize for Literature.
Most politicians "are interested not in truth but in
power and the maintenance of that power", the 75-year-old said.
His speech was pre-recorded as Pinter was admitted to hospital this week.
'Live in ignorance'
Pinter, whose plays include The Birthday Party and Betrayal,
was announced the winner of the $1.3m (£740,000) cash prize in October.
On Wednesday his lecture, entitled Art, Truth and Politics,
studied the importance of truth in art before decrying its
perceived absence in politics.
He said politicians feel it is "essential that people remain
in ignorance, that they live in ignorance of the truth, even
the truth of their own lives".
Pinter said the US justification for invading Iraq - that Saddam Hussein
possessed weapons of mass destruction - "was not true".
"The truth is something entirely different," Pinter added.
"The truth is to do with how the United States understands
its role in the world and how it chooses to embody it."
Pinter said that since World War II the US government "supported
and in many cases engendered every right-wing military dictatorship
in the world".
"I refer to Indonesia, Greece, Uruguay, Brazil, Paraguay, Haiti,
Turkey, the Philippines, Guatemala, El Salvador and, of course, Chile."
'Bleating lamb'
He added: "You have to hand it to America. It has exercised
a quite clinical manipulation of power worldwide while
masquerading as a force for universal good."
Referring to Blair's support for the US-led war on Iraq,
Pinter described the "pathetic and supine" Great Britain
as "a bleating little lamb tagging behind (the US) on a lead".
He called for President Bush and Prime Minister Blair to be
"arraigned before the International Criminal Court of Justice".
"But Bush has been clever," Pinter said. "He has not ratified
the International Criminal Court of Justice."
Nevertheless he added that "thousands, if not millions"
of people in the US were "sickened, shamed and angered"
by their government's actions.
"As things stand they are not a coherent political force - yet."
Publisher Stephen Page will accept the Nobel Prize for
Literature on Pinter's behalf on Saturday.
_______________________________________________
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "" |
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08 Dec 2005 09:42:01 PM |
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the so called "nobel prize" is a miserable joke..a bunch of idiot
communists patting each other on the back....pass this on.
Boycott Aruba !
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