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"WhoDat?" |
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16 Aug 2004 08:26:06 AM |
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Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
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| User: "Rhino" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
16 Aug 2004 11:18:08 AM |
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"WhoDat?" <itme@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:OB2Uc.5393$FZs1.959@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Thanks for posting this. I wish the TV news offered such a balanced
assessment of the news from Iraq.
Rhino
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| User: "PagCal" |
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16 Aug 2004 06:23:24 PM |
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The WSJ is hardly balanced news.
Further, one of the strong points mentioned in the article is that
'Elections are Scheduled' as if that was some sort of indicator of
progress. It isn't. Three guys in a back room probably scheduled them.
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
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| User: "John Galt" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
17 Aug 2004 11:34:07 AM |
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PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
Twenty years from now - the same will be said of George W. Bush, while
the likes of Clinton and Kerry (who?) are vague memories.
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| User: "fish" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
18 Aug 2004 03:49:34 AM |
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"John Galt" <john_galt_gultch@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:2b9d71e8.0408170726.f1bdb5e@posting.google.com...
PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message
news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
Twenty years from now - the same will be said of George W. Bush, while
the likes of Clinton and Kerry (who?) are vague memories.
Right on.
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| User: "Top Poster" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
18 Aug 2004 12:54:06 AM |
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"John Galt" <john_galt_gultch@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:2b9d71e8.0408170726.f1bdb5e@posting.google.com...
PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message
news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
AGREED!!!
:-)
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| User: "Mr.T" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
18 Aug 2004 12:50:13 PM |
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(John Galt) wrote in message news:<2b9d71e8.0408170726.f1bdb5e@posting.google.com>...
PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
Twenty years from now - the same will be said of George W. Bush, while
the likes of Clinton and Kerry (who?) are vague memories.
Uh...yeah. Go back to reading "Atlas Shrugged", "The Fountainhead",
etc.. The fantasy genre suits you better.
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| User: "James Monroe" |
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17 Aug 2004 12:45:26 PM |
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On 17 Aug 2004 09:34:07 -0700, (John Galt)
wrote:
PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
Twenty years from now - the same will be said of George W. Bush, while
the likes of Clinton and Kerry (who?) are vague memories.
Twenty-five years from now people will understand the same reality
they realize today:
The Soviet Union had crumbled to the point of imploding by the time
Reagan took office.
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| User: "Cam Newton" |
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17 Aug 2004 01:06:42 PM |
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:45:26 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
On 17 Aug 2004 09:34:07 -0700, (John Galt)
wrote:
PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
Twenty years from now - the same will be said of George W. Bush, while
the likes of Clinton and Kerry (who?) are vague memories.
Twenty-five years from now people will understand the same reality
they realize today:
The Soviet Union had crumbled to the point of imploding by the time
Reagan took office.
Why did it implode?
Why not sooner?
How could the Soviets avoided the implosion?
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| User: "James Monroe" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
17 Aug 2004 05:41:10 PM |
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:06:42 GMT, (Cam Newton)
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:45:26 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
On 17 Aug 2004 09:34:07 -0700, (John Galt)
wrote:
PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
Twenty years from now - the same will be said of George W. Bush, while
the likes of Clinton and Kerry (who?) are vague memories.
Twenty-five years from now people will understand the same reality
they realize today:
The Soviet Union had crumbled to the point of imploding by the time
Reagan took office.
Why did it implode?
Why not sooner?
How could the Soviets avoided the implosion?
By the early 80's, I think it was too late.
Heck, by the time Reagan took office Soviet citizens were waiting in
line three hours to buy a pound of sugar. They couldn't support their
own citizenry.
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| User: "Top Poster" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
18 Aug 2004 12:54:07 AM |
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"James Monroe" <spamless@spamless.com> wrote in message
news:t825i0ds4klr6lhp36d64jqfk53eoad258@4ax.com...
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:06:42 GMT, (Cam Newton)
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:45:26 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
On 17 Aug 2004 09:34:07 -0700, (John Galt)
wrote:
PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message
news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
Twenty years from now - the same will be said of George W. Bush, while
the likes of Clinton and Kerry (who?) are vague memories.
Twenty-five years from now people will understand the same reality
they realize today:
The Soviet Union had crumbled to the point of imploding by the time
Reagan took office.
Why did it implode?
Why not sooner?
How could the Soviets avoided the implosion?
By the early 80's, I think it was too late.
Heck, by the time Reagan took office Soviet citizens were waiting in
line three hours to buy a pound of sugar. They couldn't support their
own citizenry.
That is why socialism is going the way of the dinosaurs. It is also
why we must continue to route out and discredit those that would wish
socialism upon us.
--
Proudly Albertan and reluctantly Canadian.
http://www.separationalberta.com
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| User: "Cam Newton" |
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17 Aug 2004 06:49:08 PM |
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:41:10 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:06:42 GMT, (Cam Newton)
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:45:26 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
On 17 Aug 2004 09:34:07 -0700, (John Galt)
wrote:
PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
Twenty years from now - the same will be said of George W. Bush, while
the likes of Clinton and Kerry (who?) are vague memories.
Twenty-five years from now people will understand the same reality
they realize today:
The Soviet Union had crumbled to the point of imploding by the time
Reagan took office.
Why did it implode?
Why not sooner?
How could the Soviets avoided the implosion?
By the early 80's, I think it was too late.
Heck, by the time Reagan took office Soviet citizens were waiting in
line three hours to buy a pound of sugar. They couldn't support their
own citizenry.
Apparently there were waiting lines to get into the gulag's too. They
couldn't build them fast enough.
So the 80's arms race was a waste of money then? Perhape the economics
of socialism are the seeds of its own destruction? Who knew.
So we can start or continue to ***** on Reagan?
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| User: "James Monroe" |
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17 Aug 2004 08:46:54 PM |
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 23:49:08 GMT, (Cam Newton)
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:41:10 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:06:42 GMT, (Cam Newton)
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:45:26 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
On 17 Aug 2004 09:34:07 -0700, (John Galt)
wrote:
PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
Twenty years from now - the same will be said of George W. Bush, while
the likes of Clinton and Kerry (who?) are vague memories.
Twenty-five years from now people will understand the same reality
they realize today:
The Soviet Union had crumbled to the point of imploding by the time
Reagan took office.
Why did it implode?
Why not sooner?
How could the Soviets avoided the implosion?
By the early 80's, I think it was too late.
Heck, by the time Reagan took office Soviet citizens were waiting in
line three hours to buy a pound of sugar. They couldn't support their
own citizenry.
Apparently there were waiting lines to get into the gulag's too. They
couldn't build them fast enough.
So the 80's arms race was a waste of money then? Perhape the economics
of socialism are the seeds of its own destruction? Who knew.
So we can start or continue to ***** on Reagan?
No time to ***** on him; we have to busy ourselves with paying off the
debt he ran up. Under the 12 years of Reagan and Bush the elder the
National Debt Quadrupled.
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| User: "E. Barry Bruyea" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
18 Aug 2004 03:45:40 AM |
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 23:49:08 GMT, (Cam Newton)
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:41:10 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:06:42 GMT, (Cam Newton)
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:45:26 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
On 17 Aug 2004 09:34:07 -0700, (John Galt)
wrote:
PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
Twenty years from now - the same will be said of George W. Bush, while
the likes of Clinton and Kerry (who?) are vague memories.
Twenty-five years from now people will understand the same reality
they realize today:
The Soviet Union had crumbled to the point of imploding by the time
Reagan took office.
Why did it implode?
Why not sooner?
How could the Soviets avoided the implosion?
By the early 80's, I think it was too late.
Heck, by the time Reagan took office Soviet citizens were waiting in
line three hours to buy a pound of sugar. They couldn't support their
own citizenry.
Standing in line for the necessities of life had been common practice
for Soviet Citizens since Stalin's day. It was the 'standard' of the
Soviet system. Standing in line, with no hope of ever reaching the
end, became the 'standard' in the later years as the failed Soviet
System tried to keep up with the U.S. with an economic structure that
was never up to the task.
Apparently there were waiting lines to get into the gulag's too. They
couldn't build them fast enough.
So the 80's arms race was a waste of money then? Perhape the economics
of socialism are the seeds of its own destruction? Who knew.
So we can start or continue to ***** on Reagan?
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| User: "Cam Newton" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
18 Aug 2004 12:18:04 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 04:45:40 -0400, E. Barry Bruyea <spring@fever.ca>
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 23:49:08 GMT, (Cam Newton)
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:41:10 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:06:42 GMT, (Cam Newton)
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:45:26 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
On 17 Aug 2004 09:34:07 -0700, (John Galt)
wrote:
PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message news:<10i2gfce8ef731c@corp.supernews.com>...
What kind of progress is that? None.
WhoDat? wrote:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005481
Twenty years from now when Iraq is a prosperous democracy, people will
look back upon George W. Bush the same way they do today with Ronald
Reagan; that he was a man of his times that chose to do the right
thing - and the world is a better off place for it...
When Reagan was tweaking the nose of socialist Russia and
'unilaterally' 'inflaming' international tensions - the same liberal
left democrat morons that today bash Bush were whining in exactly the
same way...and now today Reagan is revered as the president that
single handedly defeated the soviet nation states - and brought
democracy to that opressed people. Reagan was a GREAT MAN.
Twenty years from now - the same will be said of George W. Bush, while
the likes of Clinton and Kerry (who?) are vague memories.
Twenty-five years from now people will understand the same reality
they realize today:
The Soviet Union had crumbled to the point of imploding by the time
Reagan took office.
Why did it implode?
Why not sooner?
How could the Soviets avoided the implosion?
By the early 80's, I think it was too late.
Heck, by the time Reagan took office Soviet citizens were waiting in
line three hours to buy a pound of sugar. They couldn't support their
own citizenry.
Standing in line for the necessities of life had been common practice
for Soviet Citizens since Stalin's day. It was the 'standard' of the
Soviet system. Standing in line, with no hope of ever reaching the
end, became the 'standard' in the later years as the failed Soviet
System tried to keep up with the U.S. with an economic structure that
was never up to the task.
However, the Soviets' output for man years waiting in line always
exceeded the plan.
Monroe missed the joke about the gulags and went back to Reagan.
Winning the Cold War has had its downsides. Maybe it was better to
prop up the Ruskies rather than face one thousand enemies of today
with no state but the same agenda.
Apparently there were waiting lines to get into the gulag's too. They
couldn't build them fast enough.
So the 80's arms race was a waste of money then? Perhape the economics
of socialism are the seeds of its own destruction? Who knew.
So we can start or continue to ***** on Reagan?
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| User: "PagCal" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
18 Aug 2004 03:37:41 AM |
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When history looks back on Reagan, it sees a man in office with the
precursors of Alzheimer's disease - which he did subsequently develop
and die from.
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| User: "Cam Newton" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
18 Aug 2004 12:19:52 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 04:37:41 -0400, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:
When history looks back on Reagan, it sees a man in office with the
precursors of Alzheimer's disease - which he did subsequently develop
and die from.
You are sooo sentimental. There is a special place in heaven for
someone like you: a geriatric ward full of alz patients. And you are
the only attendant. Have fun, you'll be busy.
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| User: "PagCal" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
19 Aug 2004 04:34:15 AM |
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I'll have it too, so I won't care.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Not All The News From Iraq Is Bad--Progress Is Being Made |
16 Aug 2004 07:18:45 PM |
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a democratic moslem country instead of a dictatorship for a change. not
a bad thing !
I am the "deciding" vote !
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