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User: "Harry Hope"
Date: 20 Aug 2006 03:28:22 PM
Object: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss
Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican National
Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on terror, we need to
remain focused on furthering Republican ideas more than ever before."
From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&ntpid=0
Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss
By Joel McNally
As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to throw
away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles of fine
wine, an irreverent question came to mind:
Is there anything the government could order the American people to do
in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so ridiculous they
would refuse to do it?
We are all undergoing government training.
And so far we are all passing with flying colors.
Whether that is something we should be proud of is questionable.
We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the citizens
of a once free nation ever made.
Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.
The current administration has shown before it knows how to use fear
to win elections and maintain power.
Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened position
precisely because the American people are starting to see through
their political exploitation of public fear.
A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq, waged to
protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction and nuclear
mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated administration
imaginations.
So it was like old times for the government to see that it could still
make the citizenry stand in line to throw away bottles of Chanel No. 5
and potentially explosive tubes of lipstick to prevent those deadly
products from falling into the hands of terrorists.
On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of an
alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the U.S., most
passengers were concerned only about traveling safely and minimizing
the horrendous delays and missed flights.
But with time for further reflection, we should all start asking some
common sense questions about how throwing away lip gloss protects us
from terrorism.
The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin imaginative tales
about how two seemingly harmless-looking liquids could be combined on
board an airplane to create a suicide bomb.
Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device concealed in
an iPod to set the whole thing off.
None of the experts ever explained what airline security and other
flight personnel would be doing while these mad scientists were
concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex cocktails and hooking them
up to Game Boys.
After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport security
since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just low-tech, but
positively stone age.
Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single hair
belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell that a bottle
of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to force a mother to drink
part of it before boarding the plane.
Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for thinking.
Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine whether
there is any remote possibility they could be dangerous, simply ban
all liquids and gels.
Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of just how
far government can go in manipulating the American people to comply
with absurd rituals.
So far, the end is nowhere in sight.
Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved beauty,
cosmetic and personal care products, but they even threw away
expensive purchases marketed directly by the airports.
Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure for
travelers.
The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the most
expensive perfumes on the planet.
People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than Old
Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain prices.
They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.
When people started dumping those precious - and securely sealed -
liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof the government
could get the public to do just about anything by invoking terrorism.
And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened fear of
terrorists.
Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican National
Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on terror, we need to
remain focused on furthering Republican ideas more than ever before."
Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises even
more questions about the Republican idea of wasting hundreds of
billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in Iraq, which had
nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the United States, instead
of pursuing Osama bin Laden.
Throwing away hair gel won't do anything to make us safer either.
_____________________________________________________
Bizarre, eh?
Harry
.

User: "Tazmanian Devil"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 20 Aug 2006 08:50:53 PM
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:gmhhe2l2dmgfaajppkae3bmin79moht1tu@4ax.com...


Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican National
Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on terror, we need to
remain focused on furthering Republican ideas more than ever before."


From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&ntpid=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

By Joel McNally


As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to throw
away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles of fine
wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American people to do
in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so ridiculous they
would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the citizens
of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to use fear
to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened position
precisely because the American people are starting to see through
their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq, waged to
protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction and nuclear
mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated administration
imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it could still
make the citizenry stand in line to throw away bottles of Chanel No. 5
and potentially explosive tubes of lipstick to prevent those deadly
products from falling into the hands of terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of an
alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the U.S., most
passengers were concerned only about traveling safely and minimizing
the horrendous delays and missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start asking some
common sense questions about how throwing away lip gloss protects us
from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin imaginative tales
about how two seemingly harmless-looking liquids could be combined on
board an airplane to create a suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device concealed in
an iPod to set the whole thing off.

None of the experts ever explained what airline security and other
flight personnel would be doing while these mad scientists were
concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex cocktails and hooking them
up to Game Boys.

After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport security
since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just low-tech, but
positively stone age.

Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single hair
belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell that a bottle
of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to force a mother to drink
part of it before boarding the plane.

Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for thinking.

Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine whether
there is any remote possibility they could be dangerous, simply ban
all liquids and gels.

Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of just how
far government can go in manipulating the American people to comply
with absurd rituals.

So far, the end is nowhere in sight.

Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved beauty,
cosmetic and personal care products, but they even threw away
expensive purchases marketed directly by the airports.

Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure for
travelers.

The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the most
expensive perfumes on the planet.

People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than Old
Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain prices.

They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.

When people started dumping those precious - and securely sealed -
liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof the government
could get the public to do just about anything by invoking terrorism.

And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened fear of
terrorists.

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican National
Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on terror, we need to
remain focused on furthering Republican ideas more than ever before."

Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises even
more questions about the Republican idea of wasting hundreds of
billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in Iraq, which had
nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the United States, instead
of pursuing Osama bin Laden.

Throwing away hair gel won't do anything to make us safer either.

_____________________________________________________

Bizarre, eh?

Harry

Remember when men were men, and the only thing they feared was fear itself?
.

User: "Grendel"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 28 Aug 2006 03:07:35 PM
Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican National
Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on terror, we need to
remain focused on furthering Republican ideas more than ever before."


From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&ntpid=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

By Joel McNally


As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to throw
away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles of fine
wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American people to do
in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so ridiculous they
would refuse to do it?

.....(ranting snipped for brevity)....

Throwing away hair gel won't do anything to make us safer either.

_____________________________________________________

Bizarre, eh?

What's Bizarre is the fact that had a terrorist blown up a plane and it
was revealed that the componants used as an explosive had been diguised
as a bottle of Hair gel, some mouthwash and an i-pod, YOU would have
been the very first to ***** and moan about how "Bush ignored the
threats and is responsible for the passenger's deaths. He SHOULD HAVE
prohibated THOSE ITEMS!!!".
Simply put, if defference to you, if you want to fly you have to follow
the rules. If they want you to wear a pink tu-tu and dance a jig
before boarding, then you have to do so, or not fly. This in NO way
inhibits your 'Right to Travel' (Which, strangely enough is NOT
guranteed by the U.S. Constitution as many think. It WAS, however,
guranteed in Articles of Confederation.)
You have a historical "Right to Travel" and it's been found so by the
Supreme Court. That does not gurantee 'by the
easiest/fastest/cheapest' means. You want to fly, you follow the
rules.
Of course, if you feel that giving up your libstick to fly is 'eroding
your Democratic Rights' then, by all means, refuse to fly. That is
your right.
Yol Bolson,
Grendel.
"We're amused by you libs and dims. It's kinda like watching the
chimps at the zoo. You know there's a limited amount of intelligence
there, they're cute and they're fun to watch, but you know they'll
never quite make evolutionary leap."
.

User: "john"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 20 Aug 2006 06:03:52 PM
Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican National
Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on terror, we need to
remain focused on furthering Republican ideas more than ever before."


From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&ntpid=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

By Joel McNally


As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to throw
away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles of fine
wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American people to do
in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so ridiculous they
would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the citizens
of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to use fear
to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened position
precisely because the American people are starting to see through
their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq, waged to
protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction and nuclear
mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated administration
imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it could still
make the citizenry stand in line to throw away bottles of Chanel No. 5
and potentially explosive tubes of lipstick to prevent those deadly
products from falling into the hands of terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of an
alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the U.S., most
passengers were concerned only about traveling safely and minimizing
the horrendous delays and missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start asking some
common sense questions about how throwing away lip gloss protects us
from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin imaginative tales
about how two seemingly harmless-looking liquids could be combined on
board an airplane to create a suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device concealed in
an iPod to set the whole thing off.

None of the experts ever explained what airline security and other
flight personnel would be doing while these mad scientists were
concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex cocktails and hooking them
up to Game Boys.

After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport security
since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just low-tech, but
positively stone age.

Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single hair
belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell that a bottle
of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to force a mother to drink
part of it before boarding the plane.

Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for thinking.

Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine whether
there is any remote possibility they could be dangerous, simply ban
all liquids and gels.

Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of just how
far government can go in manipulating the American people to comply
with absurd rituals.

So far, the end is nowhere in sight.

Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved beauty,
cosmetic and personal care products, but they even threw away
expensive purchases marketed directly by the airports.

Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure for
travelers.

The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the most
expensive perfumes on the planet.

People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than Old
Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain prices.

They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.

When people started dumping those precious - and securely sealed -
liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof the government
could get the public to do just about anything by invoking terrorism.

And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened fear of
terrorists.

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican National
Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on terror, we need to
remain focused on furthering Republican ideas more than ever before."

Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises even
more questions about the Republican idea of wasting hundreds of
billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in Iraq, which had
nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the United States, instead
of pursuing Osama bin Laden.

Throwing away hair gel won't do anything to make us safer either.

_____________________________________________________

Bizarre, eh?

Harry

I read a post somewhere that the intended explosive chemical that the
terrorists were supposed to mix using peroxide and acid, on the
airplanes takes a long time to mix in chilled conditions and over 24
hours for the mixture to fully develop. Something isn't quite right
here. Are the terrorists really stupid chemists?
.
User: "Genaro"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 20 Aug 2006 07:17:08 PM

Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican National
Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on terror, we need to
remain focused on furthering Republican ideas more than ever before."


From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&ntpid=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

By Joel McNally


As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to throw
away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles of fine
wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American people to do
in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so ridiculous they
would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the citizens
of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to use fear
to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened position
precisely because the American people are starting to see through
their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq, waged to
protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction and nuclear
mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated administration
imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it could still
make the citizenry stand in line to throw away bottles of Chanel No. 5
and potentially explosive tubes of lipstick to prevent those deadly
products from falling into the hands of terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of an
alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the U.S., most
passengers were concerned only about traveling safely and minimizing
the horrendous delays and missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start asking some
common sense questions about how throwing away lip gloss protects us
from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin imaginative tales
about how two seemingly harmless-looking liquids could be combined on
board an airplane to create a suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device concealed in
an iPod to set the whole thing off.

None of the experts ever explained what airline security and other
flight personnel would be doing while these mad scientists were
concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex cocktails and hooking them
up to Game Boys.

After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport security
since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just low-tech, but
positively stone age.

Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single hair
belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell that a bottle
of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to force a mother to drink
part of it before boarding the plane.

Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for thinking.

Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine whether
there is any remote possibility they could be dangerous, simply ban
all liquids and gels.

Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of just how
far government can go in manipulating the American people to comply
with absurd rituals.

So far, the end is nowhere in sight.

Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved beauty,
cosmetic and personal care products, but they even threw away
expensive purchases marketed directly by the airports.

Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure for
travelers.

The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the most
expensive perfumes on the planet.

People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than Old
Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain prices.

They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.

When people started dumping those precious - and securely sealed -
liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof the government
could get the public to do just about anything by invoking terrorism.

And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened fear of
terrorists.

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican National
Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on terror, we need to
remain focused on furthering Republican ideas more than ever before."

Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises even
more questions about the Republican idea of wasting hundreds of
billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in Iraq, which had
nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the United States, instead
of pursuing Osama bin Laden.

---------
Amazing how you libs never miss an opportunity to get your digs in about
Iraq, no matter what the topic of conversation, for example:
I was at the doctor's the other day for a colonoscopy feeling a little
nervous about it when the nurse walked in holding this instrument I'd
never seen before and the 2.600 American casualties in Iraq didn't make
me feel any better. or...
I was busy with the toilet plunger last night trying to dislodge a clog,
but after several attempts, no luck. And the hundreds of billions we're
wasting on Iraq didn't budge that clog an inch.
Keep on hammering those talking points, boys. But we all know which party
takes national defense seriously and who is more determined to fight the
war on terror against radical Muslims.
---------

Throwing away hair gel won't do anything to make us safer either.

_____________________________________________________

Bizarre, eh?

Harry

I read a post somewhere that the intended explosive chemical that the
terrorists were supposed to mix using peroxide and acid, on the
airplanes takes a long time to mix in chilled conditions and over 24
hours for the mixture to fully develop. Something isn't quite right
here. Are the terrorists really stupid chemists?

.
User: "Rich Travsky"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 25 Aug 2006 09:51:38 AM
Genaro wrote:


Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican National
Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on terror, we need to
remain focused on furthering Republican ideas more than ever before."


From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&ntpid=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

By Joel McNally


As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to throw
away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles of fine
wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American people to do
in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so ridiculous they
would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the citizens
of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to use fear
to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened position
precisely because the American people are starting to see through
their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq, waged to
protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction and nuclear
mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated administration
imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it could still
make the citizenry stand in line to throw away bottles of Chanel No. 5
and potentially explosive tubes of lipstick to prevent those deadly
products from falling into the hands of terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of an
alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the U.S., most
passengers were concerned only about traveling safely and minimizing
the horrendous delays and missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start asking some
common sense questions about how throwing away lip gloss protects us
from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin imaginative tales
about how two seemingly harmless-looking liquids could be combined on
board an airplane to create a suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device concealed in
an iPod to set the whole thing off.

None of the experts ever explained what airline security and other
flight personnel would be doing while these mad scientists were
concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex cocktails and hooking them
up to Game Boys.

After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport security
since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just low-tech, but
positively stone age.

Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single hair
belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell that a bottle
of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to force a mother to drink
part of it before boarding the plane.

Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for thinking.

Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine whether
there is any remote possibility they could be dangerous, simply ban
all liquids and gels.

Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of just how
far government can go in manipulating the American people to comply
with absurd rituals.

So far, the end is nowhere in sight.

Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved beauty,
cosmetic and personal care products, but they even threw away
expensive purchases marketed directly by the airports.

Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure for
travelers.

The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the most
expensive perfumes on the planet.

People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than Old
Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain prices.

They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.

When people started dumping those precious - and securely sealed -
liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof the government
could get the public to do just about anything by invoking terrorism.

And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened fear of
terrorists.

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican National
Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New York City Mayor
Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on terror, we need to
remain focused on furthering Republican ideas more than ever before."

Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises even
more questions about the Republican idea of wasting hundreds of
billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in Iraq, which had
nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the United States, instead
of pursuing Osama bin Laden.

---------
Amazing how you libs never miss an opportunity to get your digs in about
Iraq, no matter what the topic of conversation, for example:

I was at the doctor's the other day for a colonoscopy feeling a little
nervous about it when the nurse walked in holding this instrument I'd
never seen before and the 2.600 American casualties in Iraq didn't make
me feel any better. or...

I was busy with the toilet plunger last night trying to dislodge a clog,
but after several attempts, no luck. And the hundreds of billions we're
wasting on Iraq didn't budge that clog an inch.

Keep on hammering those talking points, boys. But we all know which party
takes national defense seriously and who is more determined to fight the
war on terror against radical Muslims.

You mean like this?
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051210/news_lz1e10rubin.html
December 10, 2005

While President Bush paints Iraq as the central front in the war on terror,
the former members of the 9/11 commission say the government isn't doing
enough to protect us from another attack at home.
The bipartisan panel issued a shocking report card this week on the
government's response to 41 recommendations the commission made in July 2004.
The government earned five F's, 12 D's, two incompletes and only one high
grade (an A minus for blocking terrorist financing).
Even more unsettling were the emotions panelists displayed about the gaps in
security precautions. "Are we crazy?" demanded former Republican governor of
Illinois Jim Thompson. "Why aren't our tax dollars being spent to protect our
lives?"
...
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not
that important. It's not our priority."

Throwing away hair gel won't do anything to make us safer either.

Bizarre, eh?

Harry

I read a post somewhere that the intended explosive chemical that the
terrorists were supposed to mix using peroxide and acid, on the
airplanes takes a long time to mix in chilled conditions and over 24
hours for the mixture to fully develop. Something isn't quite right
here. Are the terrorists really stupid chemists?

.
User: "Genaro"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 25 Aug 2006 10:54:20 AM

Genaro wrote:


Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on
terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican ideas
more than ever before."


From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&ntpi
d=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

By Joel McNally


As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to
throw away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles of
fine wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American people
to do in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so
ridiculous they would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the
citizens of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to use
fear to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened
position precisely because the American people are starting to see
through their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq, waged
to protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction and
nuclear mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated
administration imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it could
still make the citizenry stand in line to throw away bottles of
Chanel No. 5 and potentially explosive tubes of lipstick to
prevent those deadly products from falling into the hands of
terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of an
alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the U.S.,
most passengers were concerned only about traveling safely and
minimizing the horrendous delays and missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start asking
some common sense questions about how throwing away lip gloss
protects us from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin imaginative
tales about how two seemingly harmless-looking liquids could be
combined on board an airplane to create a suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device concealed
in an iPod to set the whole thing off.

None of the experts ever explained what airline security and other
flight personnel would be doing while these mad scientists were
concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex cocktails and hooking
them up to Game Boys.

After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport security
since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just low-tech, but
positively stone age.

Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single hair
belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell that a
bottle of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to force a
mother to drink part of it before boarding the plane.

Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for
thinking.

Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine
whether there is any remote possibility they could be dangerous,
simply ban all liquids and gels.

Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of just
how far government can go in manipulating the American people to
comply with absurd rituals.

So far, the end is nowhere in sight.

Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved beauty,
cosmetic and personal care products, but they even threw away
expensive purchases marketed directly by the airports.

Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure for
travelers.

The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the
most expensive perfumes on the planet.

People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than Old
Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain prices.

They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.

When people started dumping those precious - and securely sealed -
liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof the
government could get the public to do just about anything by
invoking terrorism.

And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened fear
of terrorists.

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on
terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican ideas
more than ever before."

Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises even
more questions about the Republican idea of wasting hundreds of
billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in Iraq, which had
nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the United States,
instead of pursuing Osama bin Laden.

---------
Amazing how you libs never miss an opportunity to get your digs in
about Iraq, no matter what the topic of conversation, for example:

I was at the doctor's the other day for a colonoscopy feeling a
little nervous about it when the nurse walked in holding this
instrument I'd never seen before and the 2.600 American casualties in
Iraq didn't make me feel any better. or...

I was busy with the toilet plunger last night trying to dislodge a
clog, but after several attempts, no luck. And the hundreds of
billions we're wasting on Iraq didn't budge that clog an inch.

Keep on hammering those talking points, boys. But we all know which
party takes national defense seriously and who is more determined to
fight the war on terror against radical Muslims.


You mean like this?


http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051210/news_lz1e10rubin.html
December 10, 2005

While President Bush paints Iraq as the central front in the war on
terror, the former members of the 9/11 commission say the government
isn't doing enough to protect us from another attack at home.

The bipartisan panel issued a shocking report card this week on the
government's response to 41 recommendations the commission made in
July 2004. The government earned five F's, 12 D's, two incompletes
and only one high grade (an A minus for blocking terrorist
financing).

Even more unsettling were the emotions panelists displayed about the
gaps in security precautions. "Are we crazy?" demanded former
Republican governor of Illinois Jim Thompson. "Why aren't our tax
dollars being spent to protect our lives?"
...

---------
Precisely. In answer to Gov. Jim Thompson's question, here's a link that
explains where our tax dollars are being spent within DHS.
http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_
0613.xml
---------
.
User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 25 Aug 2006 11:38:59 AM
"Genaro" <genaro@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:Xns982A791EFC178genaro@216.196.97.142...

Genaro wrote:


Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on
terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican ideas
more than ever before."


From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&ntpi
d=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

By Joel McNally


As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to
throw away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles of
fine wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American people
to do in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so
ridiculous they would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the
citizens of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to use
fear to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened
position precisely because the American people are starting to see
through their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq, waged
to protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction and
nuclear mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated
administration imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it could
still make the citizenry stand in line to throw away bottles of
Chanel No. 5 and potentially explosive tubes of lipstick to
prevent those deadly products from falling into the hands of
terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of an
alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the U.S.,
most passengers were concerned only about traveling safely and
minimizing the horrendous delays and missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start asking
some common sense questions about how throwing away lip gloss
protects us from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin imaginative
tales about how two seemingly harmless-looking liquids could be
combined on board an airplane to create a suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device concealed
in an iPod to set the whole thing off.

None of the experts ever explained what airline security and other
flight personnel would be doing while these mad scientists were
concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex cocktails and hooking
them up to Game Boys.

After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport security
since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just low-tech, but
positively stone age.

Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single hair
belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell that a
bottle of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to force a
mother to drink part of it before boarding the plane.

Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for
thinking.

Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine
whether there is any remote possibility they could be dangerous,
simply ban all liquids and gels.

Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of just
how far government can go in manipulating the American people to
comply with absurd rituals.

So far, the end is nowhere in sight.

Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved beauty,
cosmetic and personal care products, but they even threw away
expensive purchases marketed directly by the airports.

Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure for
travelers.

The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the
most expensive perfumes on the planet.

People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than Old
Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain prices.

They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.

When people started dumping those precious - and securely sealed -
liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof the
government could get the public to do just about anything by
invoking terrorism.

And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened fear
of terrorists.

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on
terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican ideas
more than ever before."

Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises even
more questions about the Republican idea of wasting hundreds of
billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in Iraq, which had
nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the United States,
instead of pursuing Osama bin Laden.

---------
Amazing how you libs never miss an opportunity to get your digs in
about Iraq, no matter what the topic of conversation, for example:

I was at the doctor's the other day for a colonoscopy feeling a
little nervous about it when the nurse walked in holding this
instrument I'd never seen before and the 2.600 American casualties in
Iraq didn't make me feel any better. or...

I was busy with the toilet plunger last night trying to dislodge a
clog, but after several attempts, no luck. And the hundreds of
billions we're wasting on Iraq didn't budge that clog an inch.

Keep on hammering those talking points, boys. But we all know which
party takes national defense seriously and who is more determined to
fight the war on terror against radical Muslims.


You mean like this?


http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051210/news_lz1e10rubin.html
December 10, 2005

While President Bush paints Iraq as the central front in the war on
terror, the former members of the 9/11 commission say the government
isn't doing enough to protect us from another attack at home.

The bipartisan panel issued a shocking report card this week on the
government's response to 41 recommendations the commission made in
July 2004. The government earned five F's, 12 D's, two incompletes
and only one high grade (an A minus for blocking terrorist
financing).

Even more unsettling were the emotions panelists displayed about the
gaps in security precautions. "Are we crazy?" demanded former
Republican governor of Illinois Jim Thompson. "Why aren't our tax
dollars being spent to protect our lives?"
...

---------
Precisely. In answer to Gov. Jim Thompson's question, here's a link that
explains where our tax dollars are being spent within DHS.

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_
0613.xml

rofl His source - a government press release.
Tell us again how Indiana has more terrorist targets than New York state.
lol
p.s. Cowardly response redirect fixed.
.
User: "Genaro"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 25 Aug 2006 01:31:15 PM


"Genaro" <genaro@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:Xns982A791EFC178genaro@216.196.97.142...

Genaro wrote:


Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war
on terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican
ideas more than ever before."


From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&nt
pi d=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

By Joel McNally


As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to
throw away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles
of fine wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American people
to do in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so
ridiculous they would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the
citizens of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to use
fear to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened
position precisely because the American people are starting to
see through their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq, waged
to protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction and
nuclear mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated
administration imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it could
still make the citizenry stand in line to throw away bottles of
Chanel No. 5 and potentially explosive tubes of lipstick to
prevent those deadly products from falling into the hands of
terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of an
alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the U.S.,
most passengers were concerned only about traveling safely and
minimizing the horrendous delays and missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start asking
some common sense questions about how throwing away lip gloss
protects us from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin imaginative
tales about how two seemingly harmless-looking liquids could be
combined on board an airplane to create a suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device
concealed in an iPod to set the whole thing off.

None of the experts ever explained what airline security and
other flight personnel would be doing while these mad scientists
were concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex cocktails and
hooking them up to Game Boys.

After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport
security since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just
low-tech, but positively stone age.

Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single
hair belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell that
a bottle of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to force a
mother to drink part of it before boarding the plane.

Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for
thinking.

Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine
whether there is any remote possibility they could be dangerous,
simply ban all liquids and gels.

Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of
just how far government can go in manipulating the American
people to comply with absurd rituals.

So far, the end is nowhere in sight.

Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved
beauty, cosmetic and personal care products, but they even threw
away expensive purchases marketed directly by the airports.

Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure
for travelers.

The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the
most expensive perfumes on the planet.

People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than
Old Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain
prices.

They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.

When people started dumping those precious - and securely sealed
- liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof the
government could get the public to do just about anything by
invoking terrorism.

And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened fear
of terrorists.

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war
on terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican
ideas more than ever before."

Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises
even more questions about the Republican idea of wasting
hundreds of billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in
Iraq, which had nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the
United States, instead of pursuing Osama bin Laden.

---------
Amazing how you libs never miss an opportunity to get your digs in
about Iraq, no matter what the topic of conversation, for example:

I was at the doctor's the other day for a colonoscopy feeling a
little nervous about it when the nurse walked in holding this
instrument I'd never seen before and the 2.600 American casualties
in Iraq didn't make me feel any better. or...

I was busy with the toilet plunger last night trying to dislodge a
clog, but after several attempts, no luck. And the hundreds of
billions we're wasting on Iraq didn't budge that clog an inch.

Keep on hammering those talking points, boys. But we all know which
party takes national defense seriously and who is more determined
to fight the war on terror against radical Muslims.


You mean like this?


http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051210/news_lz1e10rubin.ht
ml December 10, 2005

While President Bush paints Iraq as the central front in the war on
terror, the former members of the 9/11 commission say the
government isn't doing enough to protect us from another attack at
home.

The bipartisan panel issued a shocking report card this week on the
government's response to 41 recommendations the commission made in
July 2004. The government earned five F's, 12 D's, two incompletes
and only one high grade (an A minus for blocking terrorist
financing).

Even more unsettling were the emotions panelists displayed about
the gaps in security precautions. "Are we crazy?" demanded former
Republican governor of Illinois Jim Thompson. "Why aren't our tax
dollars being spent to protect our lives?"
...

---------
Precisely. In answer to Gov. Jim Thompson's question, here's a link
that explains where our tax dollars are being spent within DHS.

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_
0613.xml


rofl His source - a government press release.

Tell us again how Indiana has more terrorist targets than New York
state.
lol

p.s. Cowardly response redirect fixed.

---------
Sorry, but I couldn't find any leftist sources that had anything good to
say about the Dept. of Homeland Security, or anything else for that
matter.
---------
.
User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 25 Aug 2006 01:45:27 PM
"Genaro" <genaro@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:Xns982A93BA517E5genaro@216.196.97.142...


"Genaro" <genaro@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:Xns982A791EFC178genaro@216.196.97.142...

Genaro wrote:


Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war
on terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican
ideas more than ever before."


From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&nt
pi d=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

By Joel McNally


As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to
throw away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles
of fine wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American people
to do in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so
ridiculous they would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the
citizens of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to use
fear to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened
position precisely because the American people are starting to
see through their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq, waged
to protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction and
nuclear mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated
administration imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it could
still make the citizenry stand in line to throw away bottles of
Chanel No. 5 and potentially explosive tubes of lipstick to
prevent those deadly products from falling into the hands of
terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of an
alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the U.S.,
most passengers were concerned only about traveling safely and
minimizing the horrendous delays and missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start asking
some common sense questions about how throwing away lip gloss
protects us from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin imaginative
tales about how two seemingly harmless-looking liquids could be
combined on board an airplane to create a suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device
concealed in an iPod to set the whole thing off.

None of the experts ever explained what airline security and
other flight personnel would be doing while these mad scientists
were concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex cocktails and
hooking them up to Game Boys.

After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport
security since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just
low-tech, but positively stone age.

Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single
hair belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell that
a bottle of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to force a
mother to drink part of it before boarding the plane.

Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for
thinking.

Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine
whether there is any remote possibility they could be dangerous,
simply ban all liquids and gels.

Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of
just how far government can go in manipulating the American
people to comply with absurd rituals.

So far, the end is nowhere in sight.

Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved
beauty, cosmetic and personal care products, but they even threw
away expensive purchases marketed directly by the airports.

Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure
for travelers.

The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the
most expensive perfumes on the planet.

People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than
Old Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain
prices.

They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.

When people started dumping those precious - and securely sealed
- liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof the
government could get the public to do just about anything by
invoking terrorism.

And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened fear
of terrorists.

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war
on terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican
ideas more than ever before."

Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises
even more questions about the Republican idea of wasting
hundreds of billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in
Iraq, which had nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the
United States, instead of pursuing Osama bin Laden.

---------
Amazing how you libs never miss an opportunity to get your digs in
about Iraq, no matter what the topic of conversation, for example:

I was at the doctor's the other day for a colonoscopy feeling a
little nervous about it when the nurse walked in holding this
instrument I'd never seen before and the 2.600 American casualties
in Iraq didn't make me feel any better. or...

I was busy with the toilet plunger last night trying to dislodge a
clog, but after several attempts, no luck. And the hundreds of
billions we're wasting on Iraq didn't budge that clog an inch.

Keep on hammering those talking points, boys. But we all know which
party takes national defense seriously and who is more determined
to fight the war on terror against radical Muslims.


You mean like this?


http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051210/news_lz1e10rubin.ht
ml December 10, 2005

While President Bush paints Iraq as the central front in the war on
terror, the former members of the 9/11 commission say the
government isn't doing enough to protect us from another attack at
home.

The bipartisan panel issued a shocking report card this week on the
government's response to 41 recommendations the commission made in
July 2004. The government earned five F's, 12 D's, two incompletes
and only one high grade (an A minus for blocking terrorist
financing).

Even more unsettling were the emotions panelists displayed about
the gaps in security precautions. "Are we crazy?" demanded former
Republican governor of Illinois Jim Thompson. "Why aren't our tax
dollars being spent to protect our lives?"
...

---------
Precisely. In answer to Gov. Jim Thompson's question, here's a link
that explains where our tax dollars are being spent within DHS.

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_
0613.xml


rofl His source - a government press release.

Tell us again how Indiana has more terrorist targets than New York
state.
lol

p.s. Cowardly response redirect fixed.

---------
Sorry, but I couldn't find any leftist sources that had anything good to
say about the Dept. of Homeland Security, or anything else for that
matter.

Typical brainless republican liar.
p.s. Craven cowardly repeat response redirect fixed.
.



User: "Rich Travsky"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 28 Aug 2006 02:13:45 PM
Genaro wrote:


Genaro wrote:


Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on
terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican ideas
more than ever before."


From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&ntpi
d=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

By Joel McNally


As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to
throw away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles of
fine wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American people
to do in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so
ridiculous they would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the
citizens of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to use
fear to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened
position precisely because the American people are starting to see
through their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq, waged
to protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction and
nuclear mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated
administration imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it could
still make the citizenry stand in line to throw away bottles of
Chanel No. 5 and potentially explosive tubes of lipstick to
prevent those deadly products from falling into the hands of
terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of an
alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the U.S.,
most passengers were concerned only about traveling safely and
minimizing the horrendous delays and missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start asking
some common sense questions about how throwing away lip gloss
protects us from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin imaginative
tales about how two seemingly harmless-looking liquids could be
combined on board an airplane to create a suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device concealed
in an iPod to set the whole thing off.

None of the experts ever explained what airline security and other
flight personnel would be doing while these mad scientists were
concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex cocktails and hooking
them up to Game Boys.

After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport security
since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just low-tech, but
positively stone age.

Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single hair
belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell that a
bottle of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to force a
mother to drink part of it before boarding the plane.

Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for
thinking.

Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine
whether there is any remote possibility they could be dangerous,
simply ban all liquids and gels.

Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of just
how far government can go in manipulating the American people to
comply with absurd rituals.

So far, the end is nowhere in sight.

Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved beauty,
cosmetic and personal care products, but they even threw away
expensive purchases marketed directly by the airports.

Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure for
travelers.

The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the
most expensive perfumes on the planet.

People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than Old
Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain prices.

They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.

When people started dumping those precious - and securely sealed -
liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof the
government could get the public to do just about anything by
invoking terrorism.

And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened fear
of terrorists.

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war on
terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican ideas
more than ever before."

Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises even
more questions about the Republican idea of wasting hundreds of
billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in Iraq, which had
nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the United States,
instead of pursuing Osama bin Laden.

---------
Amazing how you libs never miss an opportunity to get your digs in
about Iraq, no matter what the topic of conversation, for example:

I was at the doctor's the other day for a colonoscopy feeling a
little nervous about it when the nurse walked in holding this
instrument I'd never seen before and the 2.600 American casualties in
Iraq didn't make me feel any better. or...

I was busy with the toilet plunger last night trying to dislodge a
clog, but after several attempts, no luck. And the hundreds of
billions we're wasting on Iraq didn't budge that clog an inch.

Keep on hammering those talking points, boys. But we all know which
party takes national defense seriously and who is more determined to
fight the war on terror against radical Muslims.


You mean like this?


http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051210/news_lz1e10rubin.html
December 10, 2005

While President Bush paints Iraq as the central front in the war on
terror, the former members of the 9/11 commission say the government
isn't doing enough to protect us from another attack at home.

The bipartisan panel issued a shocking report card this week on the
government's response to 41 recommendations the commission made in
July 2004. The government earned five F's, 12 D's, two incompletes
and only one high grade (an A minus for blocking terrorist
financing).

Even more unsettling were the emotions panelists displayed about the
gaps in security precautions. "Are we crazy?" demanded former
Republican governor of Illinois Jim Thompson. "Why aren't our tax
dollars being spent to protect our lives?"
...

---------
Precisely. In answer to Gov. Jim Thompson's question, here's a link that
explains where our tax dollars are being spent within DHS.

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_
0613.xml
---------

Precisely *what*? DHS got flunking grades, their puff piece is supposed
to change that?
And they're STILL flunking!
Washington Post, 8/20/06:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/19/AR200...
DHS Terror Research Agency Struggling
Science and Technology Unit Crippled by Turnover, Budget Cuts, Priority Shifts
...
http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/national/article/0,1406,KNS_350_4913372,0...
August 13, 2006
WASHINGTON - As the British terror plot was unfolding, the Bush administration
quietly tried to take away $6 million that was supposed to be spent this year
developing new explosives-detection technology and divert it to cover a budget
shortfall in the Federal Protective Service, which provides security around
government buildings.
Congressional leaders rejected the idea, the latest in a series of Homeland
Security Department steps that have left lawmakers and some of the department's
own experts questioning the commitment to create better anti-terror technologies.
...
Eagerly awaiting your excuses...
oh yeah: "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really don't care.
It's not
that important. It's not our priority."
.
User: "Genaro"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 28 Aug 2006 03:55:36 PM

Genaro wrote:


Genaro wrote:


Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war
on terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican
ideas more than ever before."


From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&n
tpi d=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

By Joel McNally


As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to
throw away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles
of fine wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American
people to do in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so
ridiculous they would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is
questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the
citizens of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to use
fear to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened
position precisely because the American people are starting to
see through their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq,
waged to protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction
and nuclear mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated
administration imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it
could still make the citizenry stand in line to throw away
bottles of Chanel No. 5 and potentially explosive tubes of
lipstick to prevent those deadly products from falling into the
hands of terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of
an alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the
U.S., most passengers were concerned only about traveling
safely and minimizing the horrendous delays and missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start
asking some common sense questions about how throwing away lip
gloss protects us from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin
imaginative tales about how two seemingly harmless-looking
liquids could be combined on board an airplane to create a
suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device
concealed in an iPod to set the whole thing off.

None of the experts ever explained what airline security and
other flight personnel would be doing while these mad
scientists were concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex
cocktails and hooking them up to Game Boys.

After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport
security since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just
low-tech, but positively stone age.

Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single
hair belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell
that a bottle of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to
force a mother to drink part of it before boarding the plane.

Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for
thinking.

Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine
whether there is any remote possibility they could be
dangerous, simply ban all liquids and gels.

Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of
just how far government can go in manipulating the American
people to comply with absurd rituals.

So far, the end is nowhere in sight.

Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved
beauty, cosmetic and personal care products, but they even
threw away expensive purchases marketed directly by the
airports.

Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure
for travelers.

The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the
most expensive perfumes on the planet.

People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than
Old Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain
prices.

They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.

When people started dumping those precious - and securely
sealed - liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof
the government could get the public to do just about anything
by invoking terrorism.

And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened
fear of terrorists.

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war
on terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican
ideas more than ever before."

Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises
even more questions about the Republican idea of wasting
hundreds of billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in
Iraq, which had nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the
United States, instead of pursuing Osama bin Laden.

---------
Amazing how you libs never miss an opportunity to get your digs in
about Iraq, no matter what the topic of conversation, for example:

I was at the doctor's the other day for a colonoscopy feeling a
little nervous about it when the nurse walked in holding this
instrument I'd never seen before and the 2.600 American casualties
in Iraq didn't make me feel any better. or...

I was busy with the toilet plunger last night trying to dislodge a
clog, but after several attempts, no luck. And the hundreds of
billions we're wasting on Iraq didn't budge that clog an inch.

Keep on hammering those talking points, boys. But we all know
which party takes national defense seriously and who is more
determined to fight the war on terror against radical Muslims.


You mean like this?


http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051210/news_lz1e10rubin.h
tml December 10, 2005

While President Bush paints Iraq as the central front in the war
on terror, the former members of the 9/11 commission say the
government isn't doing enough to protect us from another attack at
home.

The bipartisan panel issued a shocking report card this week on
the government's response to 41 recommendations the commission
made in July 2004. The government earned five F's, 12 D's, two
incompletes and only one high grade (an A minus for blocking
terrorist financing).

Even more unsettling were the emotions panelists displayed about
the gaps in security precautions. "Are we crazy?" demanded former
Republican governor of Illinois Jim Thompson. "Why aren't our
tax dollars being spent to protect our lives?"
...

---------
Precisely. In answer to Gov. Jim Thompson's question, here's a link
that explains where our tax dollars are being spent within DHS.

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_
0613.xml
---------


Precisely *what*? DHS got flunking grades, their puff piece is
supposed to change that?

And they're STILL flunking!

Washington Post, 8/20/06:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/19/AR200.
.. DHS Terror Research Agency Struggling

Science and Technology Unit Crippled by Turnover, Budget Cuts,
Priority Shifts ...

http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/national/article/0,1406,KNS_350_4913372,0.
.. August 13, 2006

WASHINGTON - As the British terror plot was unfolding, the Bush
administration quietly tried to take away $6 million that was
supposed to be spent this year developing new explosives-detection
technology and divert it to cover a budget shortfall in the Federal
Protective Service, which provides security around government
buildings.

Congressional leaders rejected the idea, the latest in a series of
Homeland Security Department steps that have left lawmakers and some
of the department's own experts questioning the commitment to create
better anti-terror technologies. ...

Eagerly awaiting your excuses...

oh yeah: "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not
that important. It's not our priority."

-----------
Relax and take a breath. All I did was put up a DHS budget link in
response to Thompson's question about where the money is being spent.
-----------
.
User: "Rich Travsky"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 29 Aug 2006 11:28:05 PM
Genaro wrote:


Genaro wrote:


Genaro wrote:

Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war
on terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican
ideas more than ever before."

From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=95539&n
tpi d=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

As people obediently lined up at airports across the country to
throw away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even bottles
of fine wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American
people to do in the name of fighting terrorism that would be so
ridiculous they would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is
questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the
citizens of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as a
political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to use
fear to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened
position precisely because the American people are starting to
see through their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq,
waged to protect us from fictitious weapons of mass destruction
and nuclear mushroom clouds that existed only in overheated
administration imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it
could still make the citizenry stand in line to throw away
bottles of Chanel No. 5 and potentially explosive tubes of
lipstick to prevent those deadly products from falling into the
hands of terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement of
an alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and the
U.S., most passengers were concerned only about traveling
safely and minimizing the horrendous delays and missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start
asking some common sense questions about how throwing away lip
gloss protects us from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin
imaginative tales about how two seemingly harmless-looking
liquids could be combined on board an airplane to create a
suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonating device
concealed in an iPod to set the whole thing off.

None of the experts ever explained what airline security and
other flight personnel would be doing while these mad
scientists were concocting their deadly hair gel and Carmex
cocktails and hooking them up to Game Boys.

After the nation has spent $20 billion to improve airport
security since 9/11, the process still appears to be not just
low-tech, but positively stone age.

Modern technology can identify exactly whom on Earth a single
hair belongs to, but the only way airport security can tell
that a bottle of breast milk isn't a deadly explosive is to
force a mother to drink part of it before boarding the plane.

Zero tolerance policies have always been a substitute for
thinking.

Instead of screening lip gloss and bottled water to determine
whether there is any remote possibility they could be
dangerous, simply ban all liquids and gels.

Confiscating even the most innocuous liquids may be a test of
just how far government can go in manipulating the American
people to comply with absurd rituals.

So far, the end is nowhere in sight.

Not only did people willingly surrender their most beloved
beauty, cosmetic and personal care products, but they even
threw away expensive purchases marketed directly by the
airports.

Duty-free shops in airports have always had a powerful allure
for travelers.

The shops are chock-full of liquid products from liquor to the
most expensive perfumes on the planet.

People who rarely drink alcohol or smell any more exotic than
Old Spice are unable to resist what they perceive as bargain
prices.

They haul gallons of the stuff onto airplanes.

When people started dumping those precious - and securely
sealed - liquids in order to be permitted to fly, it was proof
the government could get the public to do just about anything
by invoking terrorism.

And, of course, it was not just in the airports that there were
immediate attempts to exploit the public's newly heightened
fear of terrorists.

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former New
York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle of a war
on terror, we need to remain focused on furthering Republican
ideas more than ever before."

Actually, if the alleged plot turns out to be real, it raises
even more questions about the Republican idea of wasting
hundreds of billions of dollars and 2,600 American lives in
Iraq, which had nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the
United States, instead of pursuing Osama bin Laden.

---------
Amazing how you libs never miss an opportunity to get your digs in
about Iraq, no matter what the topic of conversation, for example:

I was at the doctor's the other day for a colonoscopy feeling a
little nervous about it when the nurse walked in holding this
instrument I'd never seen before and the 2.600 American casualties
in Iraq didn't make me feel any better. or...

I was busy with the toilet plunger last night trying to dislodge a
clog, but after several attempts, no luck. And the hundreds of
billions we're wasting on Iraq didn't budge that clog an inch.

Keep on hammering those talking points, boys. But we all know
which party takes national defense seriously and who is more
determined to fight the war on terror against radical Muslims.


You mean like this?


http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051210/news_lz1e10rubin.h
tml December 10, 2005

While President Bush paints Iraq as the central front in the war
on terror, the former members of the 9/11 commission say the
government isn't doing enough to protect us from another attack at
home.

The bipartisan panel issued a shocking report card this week on
the government's response to 41 recommendations the commission
made in July 2004. The government earned five F's, 12 D's, two
incompletes and only one high grade (an A minus for blocking
terrorist financing).

Even more unsettling were the emotions panelists displayed about
the gaps in security precautions. "Are we crazy?" demanded former
Republican governor of Illinois Jim Thompson. "Why aren't our
tax dollars being spent to protect our lives?"
...

---------
Precisely. In answer to Gov. Jim Thompson's question, here's a link
that explains where our tax dollars are being spent within DHS.

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_
0613.xml
---------


Precisely *what*? DHS got flunking grades, their puff piece is
supposed to change that?

And they're STILL flunking!

Washington Post, 8/20/06:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/19/AR200.
.. DHS Terror Research Agency Struggling

Science and Technology Unit Crippled by Turnover, Budget Cuts,
Priority Shifts ...

http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/national/article/0,1406,KNS_350_4913372,0.
.. August 13, 2006

WASHINGTON - As the British terror plot was unfolding, the Bush
administration quietly tried to take away $6 million that was
supposed to be spent this year developing new explosives-detection
technology and divert it to cover a budget shortfall in the Federal
Protective Service, which provides security around government
buildings.

Congressional leaders rejected the idea, the latest in a series of
Homeland Security Department steps that have left lawmakers and some
of the department's own experts questioning the commitment to create
better anti-terror technologies. ...

Eagerly awaiting your excuses...

oh yeah: "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not
that important. It's not our priority."

Relax and take a breath. All I did was put up a DHS budget link in
response to Thompson's question about where the money is being spent.

Relax, take a breath, and re-read what was posted. He asked WHY "aren't our
tax dollars being spent to protect our lives?" - NOT where the money is going.
Got another excuse?
.
User: "Genaro"

Title: Re: Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss 30 Aug 2006 08:35:27 AM

Genaro wrote:


Genaro wrote:


Genaro wrote:

Harry Hope wrote:

Within hours of the news of the alleged plot, the Republican
National Committee e-mailed a fundraising appeal by former
New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claiming, "In the middle
of a war on terror, we need to remain focused on furthering
Republican ideas more than ever before."

From The Capital Times, 8/19/06:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=9553
9&n tpi d=0

Obey your government: Toss that killer lip gloss

As people obediently lined up at airports across the country
to throw away killer lip gloss, expensive perfume and even
bottles of fine wine, an irreverent question came to mind:

Is there anything the government could order the American
people to do in the name of fighting terrorism that would be
so ridiculous they would refuse to do it?

We are all undergoing government training.

And so far we are all passing with flying colors.

Whether that is something we should be proud of is
questionable.

We could look back on it one day as the biggest mistake the
citizens of a once free nation ever made.

Terrorists aren't the only ones who know how to use fear as
a political weapon.

The current administration has shown before it knows how to
use fear to win elections and maintain power.

Republicans are going into midterm elections in a weakened
position precisely because the American people are starting
to see through their political exploitation of public fear.

A growing majority of citizens now oppose the war in Iraq,
waged to protect us from fictitious weapons of mass
destruction and nuclear mushroom clouds that existed only in
overheated administration imaginations.

So it was like old times for the government to see that it
could still make the citizenry stand in line to throw away
bottles of Chanel No. 5 and potentially explosive tubes of
lipstick to prevent those deadly products from falling into
the hands of terrorists.

On the first few days of air travel after the announcement
of an alleged plot to blow up airliners between Britain and
the U.S., most passengers were concerned only about
traveling safely and minimizing the horrendous delays and
missed flights.

But with time for further reflection, we should all start
asking some common sense questions about how throwing away
lip gloss protects us from terrorism.

The 24-hour news channels hauled out experts to spin
imaginative tales about how two seemingly harmless-looking
liquids could be combined on board an airplane to create a
suicide bomb.

Why, there could even be some kind of detonati