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"Harry Hope" |
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30 Aug 2006 10:03:19 AM |
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Ohio officials prepare to destroy 2004 election theft evidence |
In August, the Columbus Institute for Contemporary Journalism, a
501(c)3 organization that has examined election irregularities in
Ohio, started a website called Save the Ballots!
"The ballots are the smoking gun to explain what happened in Ohio in
2004," according to the website. http://www.savetheballots.org/
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/NYT_Ohio_officials_prepare_to_destroy_0829.html
August 29, 2006
Ohio officials prepare to destroy paper ballots from 2004 presidential
election
RAW STORY
Ohio officials will soon begin destroying the paper ballots from the
2004 presidential election despite objections from voter rights
groups.
"Soon after the 2004 presidential election, questions emerged about
how votes were tallied in Ohio, a battleground state that delivered
the presidency to George W. Bush," Ian Urbina writes in a story slated
for the New York Times.
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Shredding evidence: Republican modus aperandi
Harry
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| User: "InTheNorthLand" |
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| Title: Re: Ohio officials prepare to destroy 2004 election theft evidence |
30 Aug 2006 10:49:51 AM |
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"The ballots are the smoking gun to explain what happened
in Ohio in 2004," according to the website.
http://www.savetheballots.org/
That web site needs to change the name to sourgrapes.org. And they
also need to do some legitimate research into the election they are
screaming about. And why they are at it, drop the noise about exit
polls not agreeing with the vote counts (when have they ever?), and
about too many voters not casting a vote in the presidental race but in
other races (I voted a split ticket and for a 3rd party candidate for
president - should my vote not be allowed?)
If you want reform, start with the voter rolls and with voter
registration. Which is something an organization like savetheballots is
never goint to support.
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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| Title: Re: Ohio officials prepare to destroy 2004 election theft evidence |
30 Aug 2006 11:07:54 AM |
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"InTheNorthLand" <wayupnorthland@bigmailbox.net> wrote in message
news:1156952991.837001.29140@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
"The ballots are the smoking gun to explain what happened
in Ohio in 2004," according to the website.
http://www.savetheballots.org/
That web site needs to change the name to sourgrapes.org. And they
also need to do some legitimate research into the election they are
screaming about. And why they are at it, drop the noise about exit
polls not agreeing with the vote counts (when have they ever?), and
about too many voters not casting a vote in the presidental race but in
other races (I voted a split ticket and for a 3rd party candidate for
president - should my vote not be allowed?)
If you want reform, start with the voter rolls and with voter
registration. Which is something an organization like savetheballots is
never goint to support.
As usual, the republican has nothing.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Ohio officials prepare to destroy 2004 election theft evidence |
30 Aug 2006 12:30:53 PM |
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The Democrats are the masters of vote fraud. Chicago (vote early and
vote often), Philly and St. Louis are the vote fraud centers of the US
I remember how they pushed that motor voter bill. Got to get those
illegals into the voting booths to put more Dems in power.
ouroboros rex wrote:
"InTheNorthLand" <wayupnorthland@bigmailbox.net> wrote in message
news:1156952991.837001.29140@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
"The ballots are the smoking gun to explain what happened
in Ohio in 2004," according to the website.
http://www.savetheballots.org/
That web site needs to change the name to sourgrapes.org. And they
also need to do some legitimate research into the election they are
screaming about. And why they are at it, drop the noise about exit
polls not agreeing with the vote counts (when have they ever?), and
about too many voters not casting a vote in the presidental race but in
other races (I voted a split ticket and for a 3rd party candidate for
president - should my vote not be allowed?)
If you want reform, start with the voter rolls and with voter
registration. Which is something an organization like savetheballots is
never goint to support.
As usual, the republican has nothing.
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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| Title: Re: Ohio officials prepare to destroy 2004 election theft evidence |
30 Aug 2006 01:43:33 PM |
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<pubbievoter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1156959053.604848.321920@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
The Democrats are the masters of vote fraud. Chicago (vote early and
vote often), Philly and St. Louis are the vote fraud centers of the US
I remember how they pushed that motor voter bill. Got to get those
illegals into the voting booths to put more Dems in power.
Same republican lies, different day.
The real story on vote fraud in Ohio:
http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/lit/election2004/cases.html
ouroboros rex wrote:
"InTheNorthLand" <wayupnorthland@bigmailbox.net> wrote in message
news:1156952991.837001.29140@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
"The ballots are the smoking gun to explain what happened
in Ohio in 2004," according to the website.
http://www.savetheballots.org/
That web site needs to change the name to sourgrapes.org. And they
also need to do some legitimate research into the election they are
screaming about. And why they are at it, drop the noise about exit
polls not agreeing with the vote counts (when have they ever?), and
about too many voters not casting a vote in the presidental race but in
other races (I voted a split ticket and for a 3rd party candidate for
president - should my vote not be allowed?)
If you want reform, start with the voter rolls and with voter
registration. Which is something an organization like savetheballots is
never goint to support.
As usual, the republican has nothing.
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| User: "RatherBeSwimming" |
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| Title: Re: Ohio officials prepare to destroy 2004 election theft evidence |
30 Aug 2006 10:25:58 AM |
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http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/NYT_Ohio_officials_prepare_to_destroy_0829.html
August 29, 2006
Ohio officials prepare to destroy paper ballots from 2004 presidential
election
I do not seem to recall your outrage when the current governor of
Arizona, Janet Napolitano, was elected under much more obvious and
suspicious circumstances. Soon after that election, when the state's
voter registration laws were updated, it was learned that the Governor
was elected specifically because of illegal voters; a very large number
who were not citizens but were still allowed to register and vote. Is
this something which should be investigated? Are you outraged that
such a high level of voter fraud was able to take place?
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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| Title: Re: Ohio officials prepare to destroy 2004 election theft evidence |
30 Aug 2006 11:06:58 AM |
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"RatherBeSwimming" <jerry_jn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156951557.947537.217220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/NYT_Ohio_officials_prepare_to_destroy_0829.html
August 29, 2006
Ohio officials prepare to destroy paper ballots from 2004 presidential
election
I do not seem to recall your outrage when the current governor of
Arizona, Janet Napolitano, was elected under much more obvious and
suspicious circumstances. Soon after that election, when the state's
voter registration laws were updated, it was learned that the Governor
was elected specifically because of illegal voters; a very large number
who were not citizens but were still allowed to register and vote. Is
this something which should be investigated? Are you outraged that
such a high level of voter fraud was able to take place?
no cite = unsubstantiated *****.
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| User: "RatherBeSwimming" |
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| Title: Re: Ohio officials prepare to destroy 2004 election theft evidence |
30 Aug 2006 01:09:17 PM |
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I do not seem to recall your outrage when the current governor of
Arizona, Janet Napolitano, was elected under much more obvious
and suspicious circumstances. ...
no cite = unsubstantiated *****.
Napolitano won the election by one percent, 11,819 votes. After voting
reform, one county, Maricopa, ended up removing more than that amount
from their voter rolls
Eligible to Vote in Arizona? Prove It
A new law requires evidence of citizenship. Thousands of legal
residents are in a bind.
By Nicholas Riccardi, LA Times Staff Writer
PHOENIX - A stringent new voter identification law being put into
effect in Arizona -
designed to keep illegal immigrants from voting ...
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In Maricopa County, home to Phoenix, more than 10,000 people trying to
register have
been rejected for being unable to prove their citizenship.
....
Rivera said a woman approached him outside the Department of Motor
Vehicles office in
March 2004 and invited him to register to vote. The woman filled out
the voter
registration form, Rivera said, including the part where he affirmed he
was a U.S.
citizen. Rivera, 55, didn't think his immigration status would be an
issue.
....
The Arizona Daily Sun
08-Aug-2004
Photo I.D. when voting. Photo I.D. is required to cash a check,
apply for welfare, sign a lease, get a rental card at a video store.
Gov. Napolitano vetoed the photo I.D. bill, stating it was illegal.
Yet 11 states already have laws requiring I.D. when voting. Some
laws have been on the books for decades, so where does she
get it's illegal? Or does she think voting isn't as precious a right
in this country as having a video rental card?
The Chicago Tribune
26-May-2004
The current parity among Democrat and Republican voters evidenced
in the 2000 elections and more recently by Zogby polling indicating a
continued 50/50 split among Democrat and Republican voters is a
political reality. It is clear that the recent push to provide back
door access to the polls for illegal immigrants is being done to tip
the scales in the Democrat's favor.
Commentary Arizona
12-Sept-2004
The study concluded that undocumented voters, specifically those
who were not US citizens, carried Napolitano to the Governor's
office in 2002. It should be expected that much like the Governor's
veto of Proposition 200, she will not allow additional reform - even
that which passed both voter approval and judicial review - if such
would reduce her voter base.
http://sun.yumasun.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/10/15844
....
We are disappointed in the apparent efforts of the attorney general
and the governor to thwart the will of the people. Proposition 200 has
withstood every legal challenge to this point and been given the
go-ahead by the Justice Department.
....
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| User: "Kevin Cunningham" |
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| Title: Re: Ohio officials prepare to destroy 2004 election theft evidence |
31 Aug 2006 04:04:43 PM |
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"RatherBeSwimming" <jerry_jn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156961357.727981.173410@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
I do not seem to recall your outrage when the current governor of
Arizona, Janet Napolitano, was elected under much more obvious
and suspicious circumstances. ...
no cite = unsubstantiated *****.
Napolitano won the election by one percent, 11,819 votes. After voting
reform, one county, Maricopa, ended up removing more than that amount
from their voter rolls
So are you saying that you repugs rigged the vote in Ohio but we dems paid
you back by rigging the vote in Arizona? Aren't both wrong? That is if the
vote is even rigged in Arizona which I doubt. Try to prove it.
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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| Title: Re: Ohio officials prepare to destroy 2004 election theft evidence |
30 Aug 2006 01:42:06 PM |
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"RatherBeSwimming" <jerry_jn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156961357.727981.173410@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
I do not seem to recall your outrage when the current governor of
Arizona, Janet Napolitano, was elected under much more obvious
and suspicious circumstances. ...
no cite = unsubstantiated *****.
Napolitano won the election by one percent, 11,819 votes. After voting
reform, one county, Maricopa, ended up removing more than that amount
from their voter rolls
Eligible to Vote in Arizona? Prove It
A new law requires evidence of citizenship. Thousands of legal
residents are in a bind.
By Nicholas Riccardi, LA Times Staff Writer
PHOENIX - A stringent new voter identification law being put into
effect in Arizona -
designed to keep illegal immigrants from voting ...
...
In Maricopa County, home to Phoenix, more than 10,000 people trying to
register have
been rejected for being unable to prove their citizenship.
Where's the part where they're proven to be non-citizens?
OOPS! lol
Now, do you have a cite that proves what you claimed?
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Rivera said a woman approached him outside the Department of Motor
Vehicles office in
March 2004 and invited him to register to vote. The woman filled out
the voter
registration form, Rivera said, including the part where he affirmed he
was a U.S.
citizen. Rivera, 55, didn't think his immigration status would be an
issue.
...
The Arizona Daily Sun
08-Aug-2004
Photo I.D. when voting. Photo I.D. is required to cash a check,
apply for welfare, sign a lease, get a rental card at a video store.
Gov. Napolitano vetoed the photo I.D. bill, stating it was illegal.
Yet 11 states already have laws requiring I.D. when voting. Some
laws have been on the books for decades, so where does she
get it's illegal? Or does she think voting isn't as precious a right
in this country as having a video rental card?
The Chicago Tribune
26-May-2004
The current parity among Democrat and Republican voters evidenced
in the 2000 elections and more recently by Zogby polling indicating a
continued 50/50 split among Democrat and Republican voters is a
political reality. It is clear that the recent push to provide back
door access to the polls for illegal immigrants is being done to tip
the scales in the Democrat's favor.
Commentary Arizona
12-Sept-2004
The study concluded that undocumented voters, specifically those
who were not US citizens, carried Napolitano to the Governor's
office in 2002. It should be expected that much like the Governor's
veto of Proposition 200, she will not allow additional reform - even
that which passed both voter approval and judicial review - if such
would reduce her voter base.
http://sun.yumasun.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/10/15844
...
We are disappointed in the apparent efforts of the attorney general
and the governor to thwart the will of the people. Proposition 200 has
withstood every legal challenge to this point and been given the
go-ahead by the Justice Department.
...
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