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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Captain Compassion"
Date: 31 Oct 2004 11:45:18 PM
Object: Osama Casts His Vote
Osama Casts His Vote
By WILLIAM SAFIRE
Published: November 1, 2004
The big news in Osama bin Laden's message to American voters was not
his intercession in our election; that clumsy ploy was not as
successful as his pre-election panicking of Spain's voters.
Nor was the news his delight in the "pet goat" sequence in Michael
Moore's Bush-bashing film, and his admonition that "Bush is still
deceiving you and hiding the truth from you," echoing the central
Kerry theme. Nor was it the frustrating fact that our Global Enemy No.
1 is alive and well and still at large.
The unremarked news is that this mass murderer evidently seeks a kind
of truce. Although some coverage of his pre-election message noted an
unexpected "conciliatory tone," we have not fixed on the reason for
this change in his attitude.
"Each state that does not harm our security will remain safe," bin
Laden promised, which was "why we did not attack Sweden, for example."
His unmistakable import: if the U.S. were to stop our war on Qaeda
terror, which has killed or captured an estimated 75 percent of his
closest collaborators, that would be what he called "the ideal way to
avoid another Manhattan ..." Stop warring on terror and you will
"remain safe."
Generals do not call for a truce when they're winning. Only warriors
thrust on the defensive become conciliatory, hoping that negotiations
will give them time to regroup and resupply. Bin Laden's vain hope
seems to be that the defeat of Bush will give him time to buy or steal
a horrific weapon as an "equalizer."
Bin Laden was the second outsider to try to influence our election in
an "October surprise." I suspect the first was Mohamed ElBaradei, the
chief U.N. arms inspector, said to be miffed at the Bush
administration's refusal to support his bid for an unprecedented third
term.
He has long known about the presence of "nuclear trigger" explosives
(evidence of Saddam's nuclear ambitions?) in one of Iraq's thousands
of ammo dumps. But, The Wall Street Journal reports that with
exquisite political timing, on Oct. 1 ElBaradei sent a "reminder" to a
Baathist science minister renewing the U.N. interest in these
particular explosives. That produced a dutiful letter from the Iraqi
bureaucrat to the U.N. nine days later that was promptly leaked to CBS
News, which apparently turned to the more credible New York Times to
do most of the reporting.
CBS originally admitted intending to break its surprise accusations
about our troops' failure to secure the ammo on "60 Minutes" on Oct.
31, last night, only 36 hours before polls opened. Journalists call
that hyping device a "keeper" - holding a story for the moment when it
causes the most damage - which the victim cannot refute until after
Election Day, by which time it's too late. (Now CBS claims that the
network would never have done such a nefarious thing. Maybe, maybe
not; that plan should be part of the investigation by CBS's panel
looking into forged National Guard documents.)
The Times, to its ethical credit, refused to go along with CBS's
planned last-minute ambush and instead front-paged its article one
week ago. (Besides, competition was surfacing on the Internet.) That
time enabled other network news organizations to cast doubt on the
story. In addition, making our forces in the field look bad did not
sit well, and the Pentagon was able to show that the 400 tons possibly
missed by our advancing troops was one one-thousandth of the 400,000
tons found, secured or destroyed by the coalition.
What effect will these two manipulations by outsiders have on
America's election decision tomorrow?
Until it was partly discredited, the product of ElBaradei's shrewd
"reminder" damaged Bush by putting him on the defensive, giving
Democrats a final-week boost. If Kerry wins, the Egyptian should be
chief U.N. inspector for life.
But then came the Qaeda tape, followed by Bush's cool, nonpolitical
response, and then by Kerry's blunder in trying to capitalize on it.
Bin Laden's latest misreading of American public opinion plays to
Bush's antiterrorist strength.
For now, bin Laden's unwelcome intercession is taken to be anti-Bush
overkill. Coming from the fugitive terrorist, it will help ensure the
president's re-election. Later, we will understand bin Laden's phony
attempt at conciliation to be his first sign of weakness.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"John Kerry gave the enemy for free what I and many of my comrades in
North Viet Nam prison camps took torture to avoid saying." -- Paul
Galanti POW Jan. 1966 - Feb. 1973
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net
.

User: "Jay"

Title: whata fucking distortion 01 Nov 2004 02:04:21 AM
"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:bmibo0p7g6reftcv9cq05oiimvbp0q6r5a@4ax.com...

"Each state that does not harm our security will remain safe," bin
Laden promised, which was "why we did not attack Sweden, for example."

What a fucking distortion.
My respect for Mr. Safire is now gone.
Here's the actual quote;
"Contrary to what [President George W.] Bush says and claims -- that we
hate freedom --let him tell us then, "Why did we not attack Sweden?" It is
known that those who hate freedom don't have souls with integrity, like the
souls of those 19. May the mercy of God be upon them."
Bush's explanation for the 9/11 attacks was that we were "attacked because
they hate our freedom," something which any thinking person knows is
ridiculous.
So, Bin Laden countered with "Why did we not attack Sweden?"
Well the answer, we know of course is because Sweden, although free, plays
no part in the oppression and humiliation of Palestinians and other Arabs.
.
User: "Harvey"

Title: Re: whata fucking distortion 01 Nov 2004 08:43:08 AM
"Jay" <reply@usenet.org> wrote in message
news:96mhd.1322$fw2.1151@trndny01...

"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:bmibo0p7g6reftcv9cq05oiimvbp0q6r5a@4ax.com...

"Each state that does not harm our security will remain safe," bin
Laden promised, which was "why we did not attack Sweden, for
example."



What a fucking distortion.
My respect for Mr. Safire is now gone.

Here's the actual quote;

"Contrary to what [President George W.] Bush says and claims -- that
we
hate freedom --let him tell us then, "Why did we not attack Sweden?"
It is
known that those who hate freedom don't have souls with integrity,
like the
souls of those 19. May the mercy of God be upon them."

Bush's explanation for the 9/11 attacks was that we were "attacked
because
they hate our freedom," something which any thinking person knows is
ridiculous.

So, Bin Laden countered with "Why did we not attack Sweden?"

Well the answer, we know of course is because Sweden, although free,
plays
no part in the oppression and humiliation of Palestinians and other
Arabs.

When you remove your second paragraph above (since it's not in the
article and irrelevant), I take it your sudden lack of respect for
Safire boils down to the difference between:
"Sweden does not harm our security" - paraphrasing bin Laden
"Sweden takes no part in the oppression and humiliation of Palestinians
and other Arabs" - paraphrasing you
Is that about it, or is there something else?
.

User: "Peter Vos"

Title: Re: whata fucking distortion 01 Nov 2004 09:23:20 AM
"Jay" <reply@usenet.org> wrote in news:96mhd.1322$fw2.1151@trndny01:

Bush's explanation for the 9/11 attacks was that we were "attacked
because they hate our freedom," something which any thinking person
knows is ridiculous.

I guess they hate the freedoms in Saudi Arabia too.... and the freedoms in
Pakistan.... and the freedom loving Hosni Mubarak.... or maybe bin Laden
just wanted to help Mubarak get to Paradise sooner... I dunno.
.

User: "Warren Stupidity"

Title: Re: whata fucking distortion 01 Nov 2004 06:13:21 AM
In article <96mhd.1322$fw2.1151@trndny01>,
says...

"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:bmibo0p7g6reftcv9cq05oiimvbp0q6r5a@4ax.com...

"Each state that does not harm our security will remain safe," bin
Laden promised, which was "why we did not attack Sweden, for example."



What a fucking distortion.
My respect for Mr. Safire is now gone.

Here's the actual quote;

"Contrary to what [President George W.] Bush says and claims -- that we
hate freedom --let him tell us then, "Why did we not attack Sweden?" It is
known that those who hate freedom don't have souls with integrity, like the
souls of those 19. May the mercy of God be upon them."

Bush's explanation for the 9/11 attacks was that we were "attacked because
they hate our freedom," something which any thinking person knows is
ridiculous.

So, Bin Laden countered with "Why did we not attack Sweden?"

Well the answer, we know of course is because Sweden, although free, plays
no part in the oppression and humiliation of Palestinians and other Arabs.




It is important to portray bin Laden as a raving lunatic as otherwise people
might actually ask themselves 'why us, what have we done to cause such rage
against us'? And then perhaps a glimmer of awareness about our role in the
world might pierce the shadows of our minds.
--
==
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
GW Bush, President by appointment 2001-2004.
The Washington NeoClowns can't even get their clown
shoes on right, and there is no wrong way to do that.
==
Mark Roddy
"Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event like a
new Pearl Harbor."
-- Project for a New American Century,
-- the neocon cabal's blueprint for world empire.
http://www.newamericancentury.org
.
User: "Gogarty"

Title: Re: whata fucking distortion 01 Nov 2004 06:29:37 AM
In article <MPG.1beff26cef9dca05989761@news.charter.net>,

says...



In article <96mhd.1322$fw2.1151@trndny01>,

says...

"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:bmibo0p7g6reftcv9cq05oiimvbp0q6r5a@4ax.com...

"Each state that does not harm our security will remain safe," bin
Laden promised, which was "why we did not attack Sweden, for example."



What a fucking distortion.
My respect for Mr. Safire is now gone.

Only now? My respect for him evaporated many years ago concerning Yellow Rain.


Here's the actual quote;

"Contrary to what [President George W.] Bush says and claims -- that we
hate freedom --let him tell us then, "Why did we not attack Sweden?" It is
known that those who hate freedom don't have souls with integrity, like the
souls of those 19. May the mercy of God be upon them."

Bush's explanation for the 9/11 attacks was that we were "attacked because
they hate our freedom," something which any thinking person knows is
ridiculous.

So, Bin Laden countered with "Why did we not attack Sweden?"

Well the answer, we know of course is because Sweden, although free, plays
no part in the oppression and humiliation of Palestinians and other Arabs.




It is important to portray bin Laden as a raving lunatic as otherwise people
might actually ask themselves 'why us, what have we done to cause such rage
against us'? And then perhaps a glimmer of awareness about our role in the
world might pierce the shadows of our minds.

--


==
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
GW Bush, President by appointment 2001-2004.

The Washington NeoClowns can't even get their clown
shoes on right, and there is no wrong way to do that.

==
Mark Roddy

"Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event like a
new Pearl Harbor."

-- Project for a New American Century,
-- the neocon cabal's blueprint for world empire.
http://www.newamericancentury.org

.
User: "BadPony"

Title: Re: whata fucking distortion 01 Nov 2004 06:37:49 AM
Gogarty wrote:

In article <MPG.1beff26cef9dca05989761@news.charter.net>,


says...


In article <96mhd.1322$fw2.1151@trndny01>,

says...

"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:bmibo0p7g6reftcv9cq05oiimvbp0q6r5a@4ax.com...


"Each state that does not harm our security will remain safe," bin
Laden promised, which was "why we did not attack Sweden, for example."



What a fucking distortion.
My respect for Mr. Safire is now gone.



Only now? My respect for him evaporated many years ago concerning Yellow Rain.

Here's the actual quote;

"Contrary to what [President George W.] Bush says and claims -- that we
hate freedom --let him tell us then, "Why did we not attack Sweden?" It is
known that those who hate freedom don't have souls with integrity, like the
souls of those 19. May the mercy of God be upon them."

Bush's explanation for the 9/11 attacks was that we were "attacked because
they hate our freedom," something which any thinking person knows is
ridiculous.

So, Bin Laden countered with "Why did we not attack Sweden?"

Well the answer, we know of course is because Sweden, although free, plays
no part in the oppression and humiliation of Palestinians and other Arabs.





It is important to portray bin Laden as a raving lunatic as otherwise people
might actually ask themselves 'why us, what have we done to cause such rage
against us'? And then perhaps a glimmer of awareness about our role in the
world might pierce the shadows of our minds.

Actually, most of what Bin laden says on the tape should come
as no suprise to anyone who read Imperial Hubris by Anonymous -
the CIA officer who put his thoughts down despite attempts to
squash the book. It's all quite clearly documented and stated
along with even more profound observations as to the potential fate
of Afghanistan and Iraq.
.
User: "Warren Stupidity"

Title: Re: whata fucking distortion 01 Nov 2004 07:09:48 PM
In article <cradnVDzVcwYsxvcRVn-hQ@comcast.com>, ebc1!@yahoo.com says...



Gogarty wrote:

In article <MPG.1beff26cef9dca05989761@news.charter.net>,


says...


In article <96mhd.1322$fw2.1151@trndny01>,

says...

"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:bmibo0p7g6reftcv9cq05oiimvbp0q6r5a@4ax.com...


"Each state that does not harm our security will remain safe," bin
Laden promised, which was "why we did not attack Sweden, for example."



What a fucking distortion.
My respect for Mr. Safire is now gone.



Only now? My respect for him evaporated many years ago concerning Yellow Rain.

Here's the actual quote;

"Contrary to what [President George W.] Bush says and claims -- that we
hate freedom --let him tell us then, "Why did we not attack Sweden?" It is
known that those who hate freedom don't have souls with integrity, like the
souls of those 19. May the mercy of God be upon them."

Bush's explanation for the 9/11 attacks was that we were "attacked because
they hate our freedom," something which any thinking person knows is
ridiculous.

So, Bin Laden countered with "Why did we not attack Sweden?"

Well the answer, we know of course is because Sweden, although free, plays
no part in the oppression and humiliation of Palestinians and other Arabs.





It is important to portray bin Laden as a raving lunatic as otherwise people
might actually ask themselves 'why us, what have we done to cause such rage
against us'? And then perhaps a glimmer of awareness about our role in the
world might pierce the shadows of our minds.


Actually, most of what Bin laden says on the tape should come
as no suprise to anyone who read Imperial Hubris by Anonymous -
the CIA officer who put his thoughts down despite attempts to
squash the book. It's all quite clearly documented and stated
along with even more profound observations as to the potential fate
of Afghanistan and Iraq.


Right. So you me, and 3000 other citizens capable of reading that book learned
something. Everyone else is getting their worldview from tvnews where bin Laden
is a raving lunatic who wants to eat your babies.
--
==
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
GW Bush, President by appointment 2001-2004.
The Washington NeoClowns can't even get their clown
shoes on right, and there is no wrong way to do that.
==
Mark Roddy
"Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event like a
new Pearl Harbor."
-- Project for a New American Century,
-- the neocon cabal's blueprint for world empire.
http://www.newamericancentury.org
.





User: "hol99"

Title: Re: Osama Casts His Vote 31 Oct 2004 11:51:07 PM
Damn that liberal media!!
Dave
"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:bmibo0p7g6reftcv9cq05oiimvbp0q6r5a@4ax.com...

Osama Casts His Vote
By WILLIAM SAFIRE

Published: November 1, 2004

The big news in Osama bin Laden's message to American voters was not
his intercession in our election; that clumsy ploy was not as
successful as his pre-election panicking of Spain's voters.

Nor was the news his delight in the "pet goat" sequence in Michael
Moore's Bush-bashing film, and his admonition that "Bush is still
deceiving you and hiding the truth from you," echoing the central
Kerry theme. Nor was it the frustrating fact that our Global Enemy No.
1 is alive and well and still at large.

The unremarked news is that this mass murderer evidently seeks a kind
of truce. Although some coverage of his pre-election message noted an
unexpected "conciliatory tone," we have not fixed on the reason for
this change in his attitude.

"Each state that does not harm our security will remain safe," bin
Laden promised, which was "why we did not attack Sweden, for example."
His unmistakable import: if the U.S. were to stop our war on Qaeda
terror, which has killed or captured an estimated 75 percent of his
closest collaborators, that would be what he called "the ideal way to
avoid another Manhattan ..." Stop warring on terror and you will
"remain safe."

Generals do not call for a truce when they're winning. Only warriors
thrust on the defensive become conciliatory, hoping that negotiations
will give them time to regroup and resupply. Bin Laden's vain hope
seems to be that the defeat of Bush will give him time to buy or steal
a horrific weapon as an "equalizer."

Bin Laden was the second outsider to try to influence our election in
an "October surprise." I suspect the first was Mohamed ElBaradei, the
chief U.N. arms inspector, said to be miffed at the Bush
administration's refusal to support his bid for an unprecedented third
term.

He has long known about the presence of "nuclear trigger" explosives
(evidence of Saddam's nuclear ambitions?) in one of Iraq's thousands
of ammo dumps. But, The Wall Street Journal reports that with
exquisite political timing, on Oct. 1 ElBaradei sent a "reminder" to a
Baathist science minister renewing the U.N. interest in these
particular explosives. That produced a dutiful letter from the Iraqi
bureaucrat to the U.N. nine days later that was promptly leaked to CBS
News, which apparently turned to the more credible New York Times to
do most of the reporting.

CBS originally admitted intending to break its surprise accusations
about our troops' failure to secure the ammo on "60 Minutes" on Oct.
31, last night, only 36 hours before polls opened. Journalists call
that hyping device a "keeper" - holding a story for the moment when it
causes the most damage - which the victim cannot refute until after
Election Day, by which time it's too late. (Now CBS claims that the
network would never have done such a nefarious thing. Maybe, maybe
not; that plan should be part of the investigation by CBS's panel
looking into forged National Guard documents.)

The Times, to its ethical credit, refused to go along with CBS's
planned last-minute ambush and instead front-paged its article one
week ago. (Besides, competition was surfacing on the Internet.) That
time enabled other network news organizations to cast doubt on the
story. In addition, making our forces in the field look bad did not
sit well, and the Pentagon was able to show that the 400 tons possibly
missed by our advancing troops was one one-thousandth of the 400,000
tons found, secured or destroyed by the coalition.

What effect will these two manipulations by outsiders have on
America's election decision tomorrow?

Until it was partly discredited, the product of ElBaradei's shrewd
"reminder" damaged Bush by putting him on the defensive, giving
Democrats a final-week boost. If Kerry wins, the Egyptian should be
chief U.N. inspector for life.

But then came the Qaeda tape, followed by Bush's cool, nonpolitical
response, and then by Kerry's blunder in trying to capitalize on it.
Bin Laden's latest misreading of American public opinion plays to
Bush's antiterrorist strength.

For now, bin Laden's unwelcome intercession is taken to be anti-Bush
overkill. Coming from the fugitive terrorist, it will help ensure the
president's re-election. Later, we will understand bin Laden's phony
attempt at conciliation to be his first sign of weakness.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
"John Kerry gave the enemy for free what I and many of my comrades in
North Viet Nam prison camps took torture to avoid saying." -- Paul
Galanti POW Jan. 1966 - Feb. 1973

"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion

"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net

.


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