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28 May 2007 08:29:22 PM |
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Pelosi: Climate change is a reality |
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
By GEIR MOULSON, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 49 minutes ago
BERLIN - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) said
Monday she led a congressional delegation to Greenland, where
lawmakers saw "firsthand evidence that climate change is a reality,"
and she hoped the Bush administration would consider a new path on the
issue.
After meeting with German Environment Minister Sigmar Gabriel, Pelosi
praised Berlin for its leadership on the issue.
Her trip comes ahead of next week's Group of Eight summit and a
climate change meeting next month involving the leading industrialized
nations and during a time of increased debate over what should succeed
the Kyoto Protocol, a 1997 international treaty that caps the amount
of carbon dioxide that can be emitted from power plants and factories
in industrialized countries. It expires in 2012.
President Bush rejected that accord, saying it would harm the U.S.
economy and unfair excludes developing countries like China and India
from its obligations. Pelosi, who strongly disagrees with that
decision and many other of Bush's environmental policies, said Friday
she said she wants to work with the administration rather than provoke
it.
Pelosi said she hoped Bush would be open to considering a "different
way" in the future.
The California Democrat pointed to her delegation's weekend stop in
Greenland, "where we saw firsthand evidence that climate change is a
reality; there is just no denying it."
"It wasn't caused by the people of Greenland — it was caused by the
behavior of the rest of the world," she said.
Scientists have noticed that Greenland's output of ice into the North
Atlantic had increased dramatically, doubling over the decade that
ended in 2005.
"We hope that we can all assume our responsibilities with great
respect and that our administration will be open to listening to why
it is important to go forward perhaps in a different way than we have
proceeded in the past," she told reporters.
Gabriel and Chancellor Angela Merkel have made the fight against
global warming a key point of Germany's presidencies of the G-8 and
European Union. Still, Merkel has said that progress at the June 6-8
summit in Heiligendamm is not assured.
According to comments on a document released by the environmental
group Greenpeace, the Bush administration is preparing to reject new
targets on climate change at the summit. The White House declined to
confirm the comments were from U.S. officials.
"We regret very much that we must so far have the impression that it
is difficult to reach concrete results with the American
administration," Gabriel said after meeting Pelosi.
Gabriel said industrial nations must take joint responsibility for the
global warming that has occurred thus far.
"For the climate change of the future ... we need readiness on the
part of China, India and today's other developing countries to take
responsibility themselves," he added. "We can and will only achieve
that if industrial nations do justice to their responsibility."
Pelosi, who is to meet with Merkel on Tuesday, said she wanted to
"salute Germany's leadership on this very important issue," and said
she hoped for a diplomatic debate within the United States.
Gabriel welcomed increasing interest in climate change at state and
city level in the U.S. and hailed Pelosi's decision to set up a select
committee on energy and global warming.
"This shows that there is a great deal of movement in the United
States, too, and we naturally hope that we will achieve progress in
Heiligendamm," he said.
The G-8 meeting has already drawn protests from antiglobalization
activists; 21 demonstrators were arrested Monday during unrest that
broke out after a march in Hamburg.
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There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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| User: "Pedro Sanchez" |
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| Title: Re: Pelosi: Climate change is a reality |
28 May 2007 11:27:37 PM |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
Nice Liberal trick.
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| User: "hol99" |
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| Title: Re: Pelosi: Climate change is a reality |
29 May 2007 12:34:28 AM |
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"Pedro Sanchez" <Dr.PedroSanchez@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lran535t4mqbav2po4r6h302j7mo7fpvg4@bbb.org...
On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
Nice Liberal trick.
That was Frank Luntz' (republican language manipulator) idea. The same guy
who changed the "inheritance" to the "death" tax.
Dave
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| User: "Phlip" |
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29 May 2007 07:37:46 AM |
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NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
That was Frank Luntz' (republican language manipulator) idea. The same guy
who changed the "inheritance" to the "death" tax.
It's been called Anthropogenic Climate Change since the 1980s.
But feel free to continue disinforming to shield Big Oil there.
Don't you know it's un-American to campaign for more fuel-efficient cars?
Get with the program, you commie!
--
Phlip
http://flea.sourceforge.net/PiglegToo_1.html
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| User: "Pedro Sanchez" |
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| Title: Re: Pelosi: Climate change is a reality |
29 May 2007 11:27:00 PM |
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 05:37:46 -0700, "Phlip" <phlipcpp@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Don't you know it's un-American to campaign for more fuel-efficient cars?
That is NOT the job of Gov't. If car companies want to build
fuel-efficient cars then fine, they will, no one will stop them.
Should the gov't give out free smoke detectors for all 100 million
households?
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: Pelosi: Climate change is a reality |
29 May 2007 01:47:51 AM |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:34:28 -0700, "hol99" <no_one@uknow.com> wrote:
"Pedro Sanchez" <Dr.PedroSanchez@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lran535t4mqbav2po4r6h302j7mo7fpvg4@bbb.org...
On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
Nice Liberal trick.
That was Frank Luntz' (republican language manipulator) idea. The same guy
who changed the "inheritance" to the "death" tax.
So.... Climate doesn't change and dead people don't have estates?
FYI The term "climate change" is used by the UN, See UNFCCC.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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| User: "Pedro Sanchez" |
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| Title: Re: Pelosi: Climate change is a reality |
29 May 2007 11:24:06 PM |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:34:28 -0700, "hol99" <no_one@uknow.com> wrote:
"Pedro Sanchez" <Dr.PedroSanchez@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lran535t4mqbav2po4r6h302j7mo7fpvg4@bbb.org...
On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
Nice Liberal trick.
That was Frank Luntz' (republican language manipulator) idea. The same guy
who changed the "inheritance" to the "death" tax.
Frank Luntz was paid by the Democratic Party to come up with 'Climate
Change' as a new catch-all phrase?
Do you have any proof of this ?
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: Pelosi: Climate change is a reality |
28 May 2007 11:39:59 PM |
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 00:27:37 -0400, Pedro Sanchez
<Dr.PedroSanchez@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
Nice Liberal trick.
The possibility does remain that things might cooler. Gotta cover all
your bases.
For once I agree with Ms. Pelosi.
"Global climate change is real: And it has been for over 4 billion
years." -- Captain compassion
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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| User: "Go Man" |
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| Title: Re: Pelosi: Climate change is a reality |
29 May 2007 12:43:00 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:iebn53lhu2u4evc9i30hncjl25snhp0npe@4ax.com...
On Tue, 29 May 2007 00:27:37 -0400, Pedro Sanchez
<Dr.PedroSanchez@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
Nice Liberal trick.
The possibility does remain that things might cooler. Gotta cover all
your bases.
Sort of like Bush's reasons for attacking Iraq. First they had WMDs, then
they attacked us on 9/11. Then Saddam was Hitler and the Iraqis were
dangerous to America.
hahaha, you guys are worried about scientific semantics?
The true reason you fear the global warming issues is because you don't
believe in truth.
It's easier to hide your head and snicker than to face the music.
No wonder Americans are now hated Worldwide.
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| User: "Pedro Sanchez" |
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29 May 2007 11:23:04 PM |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:43:00 -0700, "Go Man"
<Libby-AlQueda@FoxNews.net> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:iebn53lhu2u4evc9i30hncjl25snhp0npe@4ax.com...
On Tue, 29 May 2007 00:27:37 -0400, Pedro Sanchez
<Dr.PedroSanchez@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
Nice Liberal trick.
The possibility does remain that things might cooler. Gotta cover all
your bases.
Sort of like Bush's reasons for attacking Iraq.
THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BUSH OR IRAQ
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING
LEARN TO READ.
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| User: "robw" |
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30 May 2007 11:13:21 AM |
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Can't take it, huh?
"Pedro Sanchez" <Dr.PedroSanchez@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0vp53h2e45sk4rj94k2n0sd2968343pcv@bbb.org...
On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:43:00 -0700, "Go Man"
<Libby-AlQueda@FoxNews.net> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:iebn53lhu2u4evc9i30hncjl25snhp0npe@4ax.com...
On Tue, 29 May 2007 00:27:37 -0400, Pedro Sanchez
<Dr.PedroSanchez@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
Nice Liberal trick.
The possibility does remain that things might cooler. Gotta cover all
your bases.
Sort of like Bush's reasons for attacking Iraq.
THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BUSH OR IRAQ
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING
LEARN TO READ.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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29 May 2007 01:42:02 AM |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:43:00 -0700, "Go Man"
<Libby-AlQueda@FoxNews.net> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:iebn53lhu2u4evc9i30hncjl25snhp0npe@4ax.com...
On Tue, 29 May 2007 00:27:37 -0400, Pedro Sanchez
<Dr.PedroSanchez@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
Nice Liberal trick.
The possibility does remain that things might cooler. Gotta cover all
your bases.
Sort of like Bush's reasons for attacking Iraq. First they had WMDs, then
they attacked us on 9/11. Then Saddam was Hitler and the Iraqis were
dangerous to America.
hahaha, you guys are worried about scientific semantics?
The true reason you fear the global warming issues is because you don't
believe in truth.
It's easier to hide your head and snicker than to face the music.
No wonder Americans are now hated Worldwide.
What music would that be?
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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29 May 2007 03:44:00 AM |
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Pedro Sanchez wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
Nice Liberal trick.
You don't have to act like your soo fucking stupid, no really,, you
don't,,
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| User: "Pedro Sanchez" |
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29 May 2007 11:27:51 PM |
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On 29 May 2007 01:44:00 -0700, wrote:
Pedro Sanchez wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
NOTICE How liberals changed it from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE.
Nice Liberal trick.
You don't have to act like your soo fucking stupid, no really,, you
don't,,
It was still a nice Liberal trick, the name change.
I DIDN'T MISS IT, it wasn't as good a trick as they thought.
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| User: "imatoiletplunger" |
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28 May 2007 10:42:51 PM |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
Pelosi: Climate change is a reality
By GEIR MOULSON, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 49 minutes ago
BERLIN - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) said
Monday she led a congressional delegation to Greenland, where
lawmakers saw "firsthand evidence that climate change is a reality,"
and she hoped the Bush administration would consider a new path on the
issue.
After meeting with German Environment Minister Sigmar Gabriel, Pelosi
praised Berlin for its leadership on the issue.
Her trip comes ahead of next week's Group of Eight summit and a
climate change meeting next month involving the leading industrialized
nations and during a time of increased debate over what should succeed
the Kyoto Protocol, a 1997 international treaty that caps the amount
of carbon dioxide that can be emitted from power plants and factories
in industrialized countries. It expires in 2012.
President Bush rejected that accord, saying it would harm the U.S.
economy and unfair excludes developing countries like China and India
from its obligations. Pelosi, who strongly disagrees with that
decision and many other of Bush's environmental policies, said Friday
she said she wants to work with the administration rather than provoke
it.
Pelosi said she hoped Bush would be open to considering a "different
way" in the future.
The California Democrat pointed to her delegation's weekend stop in
Greenland, "where we saw firsthand evidence that climate change is a
reality; there is just no denying it."
"It wasn't caused by the people of Greenland — it was caused by the
behavior of the rest of the world," she said.
I wonder if she ever asked why it was called GREENland...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period
Scientists have noticed that Greenland's output of ice into the North
Atlantic had increased dramatically, doubling over the decade that
ended in 2005.
of course, they don't tell you that it happened a thousand years ago
when there was no man-made pollutants...
"We hope that we can all assume our responsibilities with great
respect and that our administration will be open to listening to why
it is important to go forward perhaps in a different way than we have
proceeded in the past," she told reporters.
Gabriel and Chancellor Angela Merkel have made the fight against
global warming a key point of Germany's presidencies of the G-8 and
European Union. Still, Merkel has said that progress at the June 6-8
summit in Heiligendamm is not assured.
According to comments on a document released by the environmental
group Greenpeace, the Bush administration is preparing to reject new
targets on climate change at the summit. The White House declined to
confirm the comments were from U.S. officials.
"We regret very much that we must so far have the impression that it
is difficult to reach concrete results with the American
administration," Gabriel said after meeting Pelosi.
Gabriel said industrial nations must take joint responsibility for the
global warming that has occurred thus far.
"For the climate change of the future ... we need readiness on the
part of China, India and today's other developing countries to take
responsibility themselves," he added. "We can and will only achieve
that if industrial nations do justice to their responsibility."
Pelosi, who is to meet with Merkel on Tuesday, said she wanted to
"salute Germany's leadership on this very important issue," and said
she hoped for a diplomatic debate within the United States.
Gabriel welcomed increasing interest in climate change at state and
city level in the U.S. and hailed Pelosi's decision to set up a select
committee on energy and global warming.
"This shows that there is a great deal of movement in the United
States, too, and we naturally hope that we will achieve progress in
Heiligendamm," he said.
The G-8 meeting has already drawn protests from antiglobalization
activists; 21 demonstrators were arrested Monday during unrest that
broke out after a march in Hamburg.
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