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"Ubiquitous" |
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23 Feb 2007 06:35:36 AM |
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Pelosi Questions Own Patriotism |
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday phoned President Bush to air her
complaints over Vice President ***** Cheney's comments that the
Congressional Democrats' plan for Iraq would 'validate the Al Qaeda
strategy,' " Fox News reports:
Pelosi, who said she could not reach the president, said
Cheney's comments wrongly questioned critics' patriotism
and ignored Bush's call for openness on Iraq strategy.
"You cannot say as the president of the United States, 'I
welcome disagreement in a time of war,' and then have the
vice president of the United States go out of the country
and mischaracterize a position of the speaker of the House
and in a manner that says that person in that position of
authority is acting against the national security of our
country," the speaker said.
Here is what Cheney said, in an ABC News interview:
I think, in fact, if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and
Congressman Murtha are suggesting, all we'll do is validate
the al Qaeda strategy. The al Qaeda strategy is to break
the will of the American people. In fact, knowing they can't
win in a stand-up fight, try to persuade us to throw in the
towel and come home, and then they win because we quit. I
think that's exactly the wrong course to go on. I think
that's the course of action that Speaker Pelosi and Jack
Murtha support. I think it would be a huge mistake for the
country.
It is true that Cheney accuses Pelosi and Murtha of, as she puts it,
"acting against the national security of our country." Does Pelosi think
it illegitimate to make such accusations? Evidently not, to judge by this
Pelosi press release of Sept. 24, 2006:
The news report on the National Intelligence Estimate is
further proof that the war in Iraq is making it harder for
America to fight and win the war on terror.
Five years after 9/11 and Osama bin Laden is still free and
not a single terrorist who planned 9/11 has been caught and
brought to justice. President Bush should read the intelligence
carefully before giving another misleading speech about
progress in the war on terrorism.
Pelosi claimed that the president's policies have helped al Qaeda--a
commonplace among Democratic opponents of the Iraq effort (including many
who voted for it). Why is Cheney's statement invidious if Pelosi's was
innocuous?
It's not because Cheney questioned Pelosi & Co.'s patriotism, as she
claims. He didn't. He said they were espousing bad policies, but he
offered no opinion or speculation about their motives for doing so.
Pelosi thus joins a long line of Democrats to raise questions about their
own patriotism.
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| User: "tednuckols" |
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| Title: Re: Pelosi Questions Own Patriotism |
01 Mar 2007 07:41:18 AM |
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In article <l7WdndQ_ON8EQkPYnZ2dnUVZ_uDinZ2d@giganews.com>,
weberm@polaris.net wrote:
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday phoned President Bush to air her
complaints over Vice President ***** Cheney's comments that the
Congressional Democrats' plan for Iraq would 'validate the Al Qaeda
strategy,' " Fox News reports:
Pelosi, who said she could not reach the president, said
Cheney's comments wrongly questioned critics' patriotism
and ignored Bush's call for openness on Iraq strategy.
"You cannot say as the president of the United States, 'I
welcome disagreement in a time of war,' and then have the
vice president of the United States go out of the country
and mischaracterize a position of the speaker of the House
and in a manner that says that person in that position of
authority is acting against the national security of our
country," the speaker said.
Here is what Cheney said, in an ABC News interview:
I think, in fact, if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and
Congressman Murtha are suggesting, all we'll do is validate
the al Qaeda strategy. The al Qaeda strategy is to break
the will of the American people. In fact, knowing they can't
win in a stand-up fight, try to persuade us to throw in the
towel and come home, and then they win because we quit. I
think that's exactly the wrong course to go on. I think
that's the course of action that Speaker Pelosi and Jack
Murtha support. I think it would be a huge mistake for the
country.
It is true that Cheney accuses Pelosi and Murtha of, as she puts it,
"acting against the national security of our country." Does Pelosi think
it illegitimate to make such accusations? Evidently not, to judge by this
Pelosi press release of Sept. 24, 2006:
The news report on the National Intelligence Estimate is
further proof that the war in Iraq is making it harder for
America to fight and win the war on terror.
Five years after 9/11 and Osama bin Laden is still free and
not a single terrorist who planned 9/11 has been caught and
brought to justice. President Bush should read the intelligence
carefully before giving another misleading speech about
progress in the war on terrorism.
Pelosi claimed that the president's policies have helped al Qaeda--a
commonplace among Democratic opponents of the Iraq effort (including many
who voted for it). Why is Cheney's statement invidious if Pelosi's was
innocuous?
It's not because Cheney questioned Pelosi & Co.'s patriotism, as she
claims. He didn't. He said they were espousing bad policies, but he
offered no opinion or speculation about their motives for doing so.
Pelosi thus joins a long line of Democrats to raise questions about their
own patriotism.
Nancy Pelosi says George W. Bush's thinking on Iraq is "impaired." It is?
In that case, perhaps she and her fellow Democrats would do something about
that. They could impeach the president or cut off appropriations for the
war. Except they'll do neither...because they don't have the
you-know-whats...oh ... and they have no plan for Iraq either.
Oh and here's a question...was Hillary Clinton impaired when she voted to
authorize the war in Iraq in 2002? Was her husband impaired when, for 8
years, he called for the removal of Saddam Hussein? Was John Kerry impaired
when he voted to authorize the war? John Edwards? The list of Democrats
goes on and on.
Oh, and Speaker Nancy still has her thong (ugh) in a knot over *****
Cheney's criticism that her plan for Iraq would validate Al-Qaeda's
strategy. She claims Cheney was questioning her patriotism...which he never
did. This is the Big Lie of the Left...when you run out of ideas, when you
have nothing else to say....accuse your opponent of questioning your
patriotism.
Sounds like somebody's pantsuit might be a little too tight. If the
American people have lost so much confidence in Bush, why won't the
Democrats do something about it? Why not take action? Come on, we're
waiting. Time's a wasting.
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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| Title: Re: Pelosi Questions Own Patriotism |
03 Mar 2007 03:01:54 PM |
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What's wrong with calling Pelosi and Murtha traitorous bastards?
Nobody charges anyone with that any more, so why should they worry? This is
the time to engage in being traitors. The federal government doesn't enforce
any laws that don't bring in cash, so traitorous activity would just have to
be put on the back burner until later.
Both Pelosi and Murtha get their play books from the DNC, and it is a
franchise operation of the Supreme Soviet, so why not call a spade a spade?
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| User: "Defendario" |
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| Title: Re: Pelosi Questions Own Patriotism |
03 Mar 2007 04:35:44 PM |
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tednuckols wrote:
In article <l7WdndQ_ON8EQkPYnZ2dnUVZ_uDinZ2d@giganews.com>,
weberm@polaris.net wrote:
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday phoned President Bush to air her
complaints over Vice President ***** Cheney's comments that the
Congressional Democrats' plan for Iraq would 'validate the Al Qaeda
strategy,' " Fox News reports:
Pelosi, who said she could not reach the president, said
Cheney's comments wrongly questioned critics' patriotism
and ignored Bush's call for openness on Iraq strategy.
"You cannot say as the president of the United States, 'I
welcome disagreement in a time of war,' and then have the
vice president of the United States go out of the country
and mischaracterize a position of the speaker of the House
and in a manner that says that person in that position of
authority is acting against the national security of our
country," the speaker said.
Here is what Cheney said, in an ABC News interview:
I think, in fact, if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and
Congressman Murtha are suggesting, all we'll do is validate
the al Qaeda strategy. The al Qaeda strategy is to break
the will of the American people. In fact, knowing they can't
win in a stand-up fight, try to persuade us to throw in the
towel and come home, and then they win because we quit. I
think that's exactly the wrong course to go on. I think
that's the course of action that Speaker Pelosi and Jack
Murtha support. I think it would be a huge mistake for the
country.
It is true that Cheney accuses Pelosi and Murtha of, as she puts it,
"acting against the national security of our country." Does Pelosi think
it illegitimate to make such accusations? Evidently not, to judge by this
Pelosi press release of Sept. 24, 2006:
The news report on the National Intelligence Estimate is
further proof that the war in Iraq is making it harder for
America to fight and win the war on terror.
Five years after 9/11 and Osama bin Laden is still free and
not a single terrorist who planned 9/11 has been caught and
brought to justice. President Bush should read the intelligence
carefully before giving another misleading speech about
progress in the war on terrorism.
Pelosi claimed that the president's policies have helped al Qaeda--a
commonplace among Democratic opponents of the Iraq effort (including many
who voted for it). Why is Cheney's statement invidious if Pelosi's was
innocuous?
It's not because Cheney questioned Pelosi & Co.'s patriotism, as she
claims. He didn't. He said they were espousing bad policies, but he
offered no opinion or speculation about their motives for doing so.
Pelosi thus joins a long line of Democrats to raise questions about their
own patriotism.
Nancy Pelosi says George W. Bush's thinking on Iraq is "impaired." It is?
Yes. Bushler is clearly impaired. Anyone listening to him reaches this
conclusion. He is quite an anamoly -- an inarticulate politico
In that case, perhaps she and her fellow Democrats would do something about
that. They could impeach the president or cut off appropriations for the
war. Except they'll do neither...because they don't have the
you-know-whats...oh ... and they have no plan for Iraq either.
They really ought to find those cojones, even if they have to buy the
strap-ons. The plan is to get the troops home. Chips fall where they may.
Oh and here's a question...was Hillary Clinton impaired when she voted to
authorize the war in Iraq in 2002? Was her husband impaired when, for 8
years, he called for the removal of Saddam Hussein? Was John Kerry impaired
when he voted to authorize the war? John Edwards? The list of Democrats
goes on and on.
I don't like Hillary. I hope she isn't nominated.
Oh, and Speaker Nancy still has her thong (ugh) in a knot over *****
Cheney's criticism that her plan for Iraq would validate Al-Qaeda's
strategy. She claims Cheney was questioning her patriotism...which he never
did. This is the Big Lie of the Left...when you run out of ideas, when you
have nothing else to say....accuse your opponent of questioning your
patriotism.
Actually, Reichwingers use the attack against patriotism as a knee jerk
response, even against decorated war heroes like Jack Murtha.
You are a liar, and supporter of scumbag cowards
Sounds like somebody's pantsuit might be a little too tight. If the
American people have lost so much confidence in Bush, why won't the
Democrats do something about it? Why not take action? Come on, we're
waiting. Time's a wasting.
Indeed. Time for impeachments, orange jumpsuits and renditions to the
Hague. It would be the catharsis the nation needs.
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| User: "z" |
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| Title: Re: Pelosi Questions Own Patriotism |
23 Feb 2007 12:40:50 PM |
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On Feb 23, 7:35 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday phoned President Bush to air her
complaints over Vice President ***** Cheney's comments that the
Congressional Democrats' plan for Iraq would 'validate the Al Qaeda
strategy,' " Fox News reports:
Pelosi, who said she could not reach the president, said
Cheney's comments wrongly questioned critics' patriotism
and ignored Bush's call for openness on Iraq strategy.
"You cannot say as the president of the United States, 'I
welcome disagreement in a time of war,' and then have the
vice president of the United States go out of the country
and mischaracterize a position of the speaker of the House
and in a manner that says that person in that position of
authority is acting against the national security of our
country," the speaker said.
Here is what Cheney said, in an ABC News interview:
I think, in fact, if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and
Congressman Murtha are suggesting, all we'll do is validate
the al Qaeda strategy. The al Qaeda strategy is to break
the will of the American people. In fact, knowing they can't
win in a stand-up fight, try to persuade us to throw in the
towel and come home, and then they win because we quit. I
think that's exactly the wrong course to go on. I think
that's the course of action that Speaker Pelosi and Jack
Murtha support. I think it would be a huge mistake for the
country.
It is true that Cheney accuses Pelosi and Murtha of, as she puts it,
"acting against the national security of our country." Does Pelosi think
it illegitimate to make such accusations? Evidently not, to judge by this
Pelosi press release of Sept. 24, 2006:
The news report on the National Intelligence Estimate is
further proof that the war in Iraq is making it harder for
America to fight and win the war on terror.
Five years after 9/11 and Osama bin Laden is still free and
not a single terrorist who planned 9/11 has been caught and
brought to justice. President Bush should read the intelligence
carefully before giving another misleading speech about
progress in the war on terrorism.
Pelosi claimed that the president's policies have helped al Qaeda--a
commonplace among Democratic opponents of the Iraq effort (including many
who voted for it). Why is Cheney's statement invidious if Pelosi's was
innocuous?
It's not because Cheney questioned Pelosi & Co.'s patriotism, as she
claims. He didn't. He said they were espousing bad policies, but he
offered no opinion or speculation about their motives for doing so.
Pelosi thus joins a long line of Democrats to raise questions about their
own patriotism.
The Bushies fibbing in order to injure Pelosi? Couldn't happen! (As
you can see, they don't even understand any more why making stuff up
and citing it as fact is wrong; it's fair because reality has such an
unfair antiBush bias.)
"One of the most prominent was U.S. Rep. Adam Putnam, R-Bartow.
Putnam, the third-ranking House Republican, had pushed the Pelosi
story aggressively the day before, both in print and on television.
"This is not about having secure communications and secure aircraft
available to her. It's about an arrogance of extravagance that demands
a jumbo jet that costs $22,000 an hour to operate to taxi her and her
buddies back and forth to California," Putnam told Fox News.
It turns out there's no evidence Pelosi requested any such thing. A
day after Snow's remarks, the nonpartisan House sergeant-at-arms
released a written statement explaining that for security reasons he
asked for a plane that could carry Pelosi nonstop to her home in San
Francisco, a much longer distance than former Speaker Dennis Hastert,
of Illinois, had to cover.
Putnam now acknowledges he had no personal knowledge of any Pelosi
request. He said he was commenting on an anonymously-sourced story in
The Washington Times and additional coverage from CNN.
"This was a classic case where the media got out in front of us,"
Putnam said. "Did we jump on it? Yes."
And he is unapologetic about that. He calls the Pelosi plane story,
whatever its legitimacy, "the first break [Republicans] have had from
the media in driving our message since before the Mark Foley story
broke."
http://www.tbo.com/news/nationworld/MGB16WIUDYE.html
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| User: "Aaron" |
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23 Feb 2007 09:35:40 AM |
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On Feb 23, 7:35 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday phoned President Bush to air her
complaints over Vice President ***** Cheney's comments that the
Congressional Democrats' plan for Iraq would 'validate the Al Qaeda
strategy,' " Fox News reports:
Pelosi, who said she could not reach the president, said
Cheney's comments wrongly questioned critics' patriotism
and ignored Bush's call for openness on Iraq strategy.
"You cannot say as the president of the United States, 'I
welcome disagreement in a time of war,' and then have the
vice president of the United States go out of the country
and mischaracterize a position of the speaker of the House
and in a manner that says that person in that position of
authority is acting against the national security of our
country," the speaker said.
Here is what Cheney said, in an ABC News interview:
I think, in fact, if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and
Congressman Murtha are suggesting, all we'll do is validate
the al Qaeda strategy. The al Qaeda strategy is to break
the will of the American people. In fact, knowing they can't
win in a stand-up fight, try to persuade us to throw in the
towel and come home, and then they win because we quit. I
think that's exactly the wrong course to go on. I think
that's the course of action that Speaker Pelosi and Jack
Murtha support. I think it would be a huge mistake for the
country.
It is true that Cheney accuses Pelosi and Murtha of, as she puts it,
"acting against the national security of our country." Does Pelosi think
it illegitimate to make such accusations? Evidently not, to judge by this
Pelosi press release of Sept. 24, 2006:
The news report on the National Intelligence Estimate is
further proof that the war in Iraq is making it harder for
America to fight and win the war on terror.
Five years after 9/11 and Osama bin Laden is still free and
not a single terrorist who planned 9/11 has been caught and
brought to justice. President Bush should read the intelligence
carefully before giving another misleading speech about
progress in the war on terrorism.
Pelosi claimed that the president's policies have helped al Qaeda--a
commonplace among Democratic opponents of the Iraq effort (including many
who voted for it). Why is Cheney's statement invidious if Pelosi's was
innocuous?
Because Pelosi is right, and Cheney is wrong.
Bin Laden even said that if 9/11 wasn't enough to provoke the US into
war with the Middle East, he would do something "bigger" next.
So we played right into his hands. Mind you, Afghanistan was the right
move. We should have stuck to those efforts, though.
Pelosi is right, because this war on Iraq has recruited terrorists FAR
better than Bin Laden could have, in countries that didn't support
terrorism in the past, as well.
Cheney is wrong, because Bin Laden doesn't WANT us to pull out of
Iraq. He wants us to keep fighting until our wills and wallets are
broken. The latter is already the case. The former is soon to follow.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
-Aaron
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