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Politics > Politics-USA |
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"Alas, Babylon" |
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19 Aug 2004 02:00:00 PM |
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Pentagon Bug Up Mike Restivo's Butt |
The editor of "Whatreallyhappened.com" seems to be really upset about the
Pentagon. He works it into stories all the time, now. His latest really
illustrates his mindset:
"How Far Will Bush Go?
Posted Aug 19, 2004 07:05 AM PST
This article by Steve Weissman illustrates the point I have been making
about the purpose behind the "pod people". Weissman goes right to the claim
that a plane did not really hit the Pentagon as a device to dismiss all
critics of Bush, which is exactly why the story was manufactured in the
first place."
Of course, if you actually read the article, the author says he believes
none of what Restivo claims on a daily basis:
" Found on the Internet and in best-selling books all over the world, the
conspiracy theories differ in detail, but generally share common threads.
The arch-terrorist Osama bin Laden secretly works for the CIA, as he did
when he helped drive the Soviets from Afghanistan. Mohammed Atta and the
other "Arab hijackers" were only fall guys, while radio beacons guided the
ill-fated airplanes into the twin towers of the World Trade Center. No
passenger jet flew into the Pentagon: the damage came from a missile or
truck bomb. And, with the subsequent anti-terrorist hysteria, the plotters
enhanced their own power, while steamrolling the United States into a
highly profitable, never-ending war against a more-or-less fictional foe.
Clever and determined, those who tell these tales poke intriguing holes
in the official account, raising questions that need to be answered. But,
like so many who overdose on unproved conspiracies, they all make the same
gaffes. They rely too much on tendentious, often uncorroborated evidence.
They speculate too much about what could have happened rather than nail
down what did. And, while they hammer the official account without mercy,
they rarely apply the same skeptical questioning to their own alternative
conjectures.
Who were - and who were not - in the conspiracy? What hard evidence
establishes the guilt of each conspirator? How far did the plot spread?
And, how did the plotters keep so many people in line without the first
significant leak, before or since?
The answers remain sketchy and underwhelming. Even more bothersome, the
conspiracy theorists tacitly deny the last hundred-plus years of Middle
Eastern history, in which radical Islamic thinkers built their own
terrorist movements, assassinated their own political leaders, and made
their own history. Why does everything - good or bad - have to be "Made in
the USA?"
So, no, I do not believe that anyone but al-Qaeda staged 9/11, and I
think we would all do better fighting real dragons rather than unproved
fantasies."
So, while Restivo paints it as an anti-Pentagon conspiracy article, it
actually refutes everything Restivo claims on a daily basis. He seems to be
getting very loose with his interpretations.
Once again, I invite Mr. Restivo to attempt to debunk my analysis of the
ASCE report, or debate me in this forum regarding the Pentagon on 9/11. He
will not, of course, because he can not.
No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/eastman
ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
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| User: "Bàidh Stidean" |
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| Title: Re: Pentagon Bug Up Mike Restivo's Butt |
20 Aug 2004 01:12:26 PM |
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On 19 Aug 2004 19:00:00 GMT, "Alas, Babylon" <master@mason.snuh>
wrote:
The editor of "Whatreallyhappened.com" seems to be really upset about the
Pentagon. He works it into stories all the time, now. His latest really
illustrates his mindset:
I didn't realize Rivero changed his name, but then I'm admittedly
behind the curve in keeping up with discredited loons. I guess Rivero
modified his name because the very name "Mike Rivero" conjures up
images of his famous "I'll chop the nose off a styrofoam glider, throw
it in the air and prove TWA 800 didn't climb after the nose came off"
stunt that got him laughed out of every aviation group and a ruined
whatever reputation he once had. Yeah, Mike, a styrofoam glider is a
totally accurate demonstration of the physics involved when the
forward fuselage comes off a 747 running at climb power. Sadly for
you, however, as discredited as Rivero is, he's still taken more
seriously than you ever will be. Hell, *I* take Rivero more seriously
than I do you, and I think he's full of *****. At least Mike didn't
try to rearrange downtown Oklahoma City for an Oklahoma City resident.
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| User: "Alas, Babylon" |
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| Title: Re: Pentagon Bug Up Mike Rivero's Butt |
20 Aug 2004 01:19:25 PM |
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Bàidh Stidean <I.am.me.as.you.are.he@the.walrus.com> wrote in
news:gafci0tij39d7iptud4tsqodaa06abs89s@4ax.com:
On 19 Aug 2004 19:00:00 GMT, "Alas, Babylon" <master@mason.snuh>
wrote:
The editor of "Whatreallyhappened.com" seems to be really upset about the
Pentagon. He works it into stories all the time, now. His latest really
illustrates his mindset:
I didn't realize Rivero changed his name, but then I'm admittedly
behind the curve in keeping up with discredited loons. I guess Rivero
modified his name because the very name "Mike Rivero" conjures up
images of his famous "I'll chop the nose off a styrofoam glider, throw
it in the air and prove TWA 800 didn't climb after the nose came off"
stunt that got him laughed out of every aviation group and a ruined
whatever reputation he once had. Yeah, Mike, a styrofoam glider is a
totally accurate demonstration of the physics involved when the
forward fuselage comes off a 747 running at climb power. Sadly for
you, however, as discredited as Rivero is, he's still taken more
seriously than you ever will be. Hell, *I* take Rivero more seriously
than I do you, and I think he's full of *****. At least Mike didn't
try to rearrange downtown Oklahoma City for an Oklahoma City resident.
Whatever the gimp's name is.
I'd love for you to analyze this, next:
ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
--
http://BeDoper.com - BeOS and a hell of a lot more
Virgin Message Board
http://bedoper.com/cgi-bin/plugins/BBS/bedoper_ubb/Ultimate.cgi?
action=intro
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| User: "Bàidh Stidean" |
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| Title: Re: Pentagon Bug Up Mike Rivero's Butt |
21 Aug 2004 01:46:23 AM |
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On 20 Aug 2004 18:19:25 GMT, "Alas, Babylon" <master@mason.snuh>
wrote:
Bàidh Stidean <I.am.me.as.you.are.he@the.walrus.com> wrote in
news:gafci0tij39d7iptud4tsqodaa06abs89s@4ax.com:
On 19 Aug 2004 19:00:00 GMT, "Alas, Babylon" <master@mason.snuh>
wrote:
The editor of "Whatreallyhappened.com" seems to be really upset about the
Pentagon. He works it into stories all the time, now. His latest really
illustrates his mindset:
I didn't realize Rivero changed his name, but then I'm admittedly
behind the curve in keeping up with discredited loons. I guess Rivero
modified his name because the very name "Mike Rivero" conjures up
images of his famous "I'll chop the nose off a styrofoam glider, throw
it in the air and prove TWA 800 didn't climb after the nose came off"
stunt that got him laughed out of every aviation group and a ruined
whatever reputation he once had. Yeah, Mike, a styrofoam glider is a
totally accurate demonstration of the physics involved when the
forward fuselage comes off a 747 running at climb power. Sadly for
you, however, as discredited as Rivero is, he's still taken more
seriously than you ever will be. Hell, *I* take Rivero more seriously
than I do you, and I think he's full of *****. At least Mike didn't
try to rearrange downtown Oklahoma City for an Oklahoma City resident.
Whatever the gimp's name is.
I'd love for you to analyze this, next:
ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
I'm trying, man. I bought three ounces of crack from some guy who
claimed to be a death-metal drummer while I was passing through
Ruston. And while I smoked it all in five minutes while reviewing the
aformentioned website, I still could not conclude that the claims were
anything but *****.
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| User: "Alas, Babylon" |
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| Title: Re: Pentagon Bug Up Mike Rivero's Butt |
21 Aug 2004 02:59:59 PM |
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Bàidh Stidean <I.am.me.as.you.are.he@the.walrus.com> wrote in
news:clrdi01tq2ae5dmd7v1s31he6mg0fva0cn@4ax.com:
On 20 Aug 2004 18:19:25 GMT, "Alas, Babylon" <master@mason.snuh>
wrote:
Bàidh Stidean <I.am.me.as.you.are.he@the.walrus.com> wrote in
news:gafci0tij39d7iptud4tsqodaa06abs89s@4ax.com:
On 19 Aug 2004 19:00:00 GMT, "Alas, Babylon" <master@mason.snuh>
wrote:
The editor of "Whatreallyhappened.com" seems to be really upset about
the Pentagon. He works it into stories all the time, now. His latest
really illustrates his mindset:
I didn't realize Rivero changed his name, but then I'm admittedly
behind the curve in keeping up with discredited loons. I guess Rivero
modified his name because the very name "Mike Rivero" conjures up
images of his famous "I'll chop the nose off a styrofoam glider, throw
it in the air and prove TWA 800 didn't climb after the nose came off"
stunt that got him laughed out of every aviation group and a ruined
whatever reputation he once had. Yeah, Mike, a styrofoam glider is a
totally accurate demonstration of the physics involved when the
forward fuselage comes off a 747 running at climb power. Sadly for
you, however, as discredited as Rivero is, he's still taken more
seriously than you ever will be. Hell, *I* take Rivero more seriously
than I do you, and I think he's full of *****. At least Mike didn't
try to rearrange downtown Oklahoma City for an Oklahoma City resident.
Whatever the gimp's name is.
I'd love for you to analyze this, next:
ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
I'm trying, man. I bought three ounces of crack from some guy who
claimed to be a death-metal drummer while I was passing through
Ruston. And while I smoked it all in five minutes while reviewing the
aformentioned website, I still could not conclude that the claims were
anything but *****.
So you were scared to even look at it, much less try and pick it apart.
--
http://BeDoper.com - BeOS and a hell of a lot more
Virgin Message Board
http://bedoper.com/cgi-bin/plugins/BBS/bedoper_ubb/Ultimate.cgi?
action=intro
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| User: "Bàidh Stidean" |
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| Title: Re: Pentagon Bug Up Mike Rivero's Butt |
21 Aug 2004 09:54:19 PM |
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On 21 Aug 2004 19:59:59 GMT, "Alas, Babylon" <master@mason.snuh>
wrote:
Bàidh Stidean <I.am.me.as.you.are.he@the.walrus.com> wrote in
news:clrdi01tq2ae5dmd7v1s31he6mg0fva0cn@4ax.com:
On 20 Aug 2004 18:19:25 GMT, "Alas, Babylon" <master@mason.snuh>
wrote:
Bàidh Stidean <I.am.me.as.you.are.he@the.walrus.com> wrote in
news:gafci0tij39d7iptud4tsqodaa06abs89s@4ax.com:
On 19 Aug 2004 19:00:00 GMT, "Alas, Babylon" <master@mason.snuh>
wrote:
The editor of "Whatreallyhappened.com" seems to be really upset about
the Pentagon. He works it into stories all the time, now. His latest
really illustrates his mindset:
I didn't realize Rivero changed his name, but then I'm admittedly
behind the curve in keeping up with discredited loons. I guess Rivero
modified his name because the very name "Mike Rivero" conjures up
images of his famous "I'll chop the nose off a styrofoam glider, throw
it in the air and prove TWA 800 didn't climb after the nose came off"
stunt that got him laughed out of every aviation group and a ruined
whatever reputation he once had. Yeah, Mike, a styrofoam glider is a
totally accurate demonstration of the physics involved when the
forward fuselage comes off a 747 running at climb power. Sadly for
you, however, as discredited as Rivero is, he's still taken more
seriously than you ever will be. Hell, *I* take Rivero more seriously
than I do you, and I think he's full of *****. At least Mike didn't
try to rearrange downtown Oklahoma City for an Oklahoma City resident.
Whatever the gimp's name is.
I'd love for you to analyze this, next:
ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
I'm trying, man. I bought three ounces of crack from some guy who
claimed to be a death-metal drummer while I was passing through
Ruston. And while I smoked it all in five minutes while reviewing the
aformentioned website, I still could not conclude that the claims were
anything but *****.
So you were scared to even look at it, much less try and pick it apart.
You never learned to read very well, did you? There's no need to
make a point-by-point reply to the page. The very fact it's something
you have published and are endorcing makes it highly suspect to begin
with. All you do is yell, Jason, you don't discuss or debate any
issue. You're a worthless troll and borderline psychotic.
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