releasing your praises makes you praiseworthy
withholding your praises strangles you
with the root of bitterness.
christians should be praising God
christians should be praising each other.
christians should be giving
each other reason to be praised.
christians should be giving
each other reason to praise God.
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31 Aug 2006 02:33:29 PM |
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----
Jonah 2:7-9
"When my life was ebbing away,
I remembered you, YHWH,
and my prayer rose to you,
to your holy temple.
"Those who cling to worthless idols
forfeit the grace that could be theirs.
But I, with a song of thanksgiving,
will sacrifice to you.
What I have vowed I will make good.
Salvation comes from YHWH."
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the "difference" between YHWH
and Jesus of Nazareth is
a subtle one.
while YHWH spoke thru the Mercy Seat,
atop the ark of the covenant, the wooden ark
overlayed in gold made no contribution
to the speech emanating forth.
as YHWH conceived in Mary
the fullness of Deity came to dwell bodily
in Jesus and was Jesus, but, Jesus was -not-
a wooden ark which offered no contribution
of its own.
no, Jesus had something that all human beings
have and no wooden arks have, and that is
the neo-cortex and human mind.
the human mind of Jesus came in to complete
subjection and full agreement with the
personal God which is the Living God
which is YHWH.
giving Jesus that perfect and substantial
Faith thru intimate personalized knowledge.
the human mind of Jesus became an identical
representation of the personalized Living God
and the Holy Spirit, which conceived in Mary,
so identified with the human mind that was born
that the subsequent indwelling was received
with a hearty declaration from God,
"This is My Son, in Whom i am well pleased"
the mind of Jesus, conceived by the Holy Spirit
in the human being, became an exact representational
Image of the Mind of God, which no thing has ever seen
or fully understood, and when the overlay was sealed
by the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit upon the symbolic
death burial and resurrection of the flesh,
no conflict was brought in to question.
that is, the mind of Jesus, birthed in the human being
by the Holy Spirit was a representational Identity
to the Holy Spirit who came to rest
upon the man's shoulders.
the 'two' were essentially identical,
and, as One, the Faith had no bounds
nor overshadowing even to the defeat of death.
now, -we-, the human beings, who are born of Adam,
see Jesus, that exact representation and Image of God,
as the doorway thru which -we- can become severely
United with God, as was intended from the beginning.
we could never identify with, or
thru, a wooden ark overlayed in Gold.
but we can commune directly with the human character
of Jesus, which has risen above mortallity, and dwells
within the unapproachable Light which is God's Presence.
that is -our- Saving Grace.
Identifying with the Presence.
at Peace
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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31 Aug 2006 02:33:53 PM |
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# no, Jesus had something that all human beings
# have and no wooden arks have, and that is
# the neo-cortex and human mind.
of course, Jesus, while in the flesh,
before the resurrection, ascension
and Glorification, like all human beings,
had a brain stem, that "ancient serpent"
with which to contend.
yes, the brain stem is said to bear
a striking resemblance to the
brain of a reptile.
and this portion of the brain
has very simple motivations,
among these are, nourishment, preservation
of life and protection of personal space.
Jesus, of course, was confronted with all of these.
we see an instance where a Tempter
called Jesus aside and questioned
these three;
"make these stones bread"
"throw yourself from the roof"
"all of these cities will i give you"
Jesus proved himself the master of his own
"ancient serpent" when he responded to these
confrontations with a pure reliance upon God.
Jesus' provision and safety was assured
through his all sufficient Faith.
now, we all have this ancient serpent to confront.
YHWH told Cain;
[excerpted paraphrase]
"sin is crouched by the door but you can master it"
and likewise, we all must
"rule over" and "master"
our brain stems.
with reliance upon God.
no, this doesn't suggest that you
toss yourself under the wheels of a bus
to prove that you have overcome the
instinct for self preservation,
it merely says that you, as human in
the image and likeness of your Creator,
are called to a higher set of purposes
which supercede selfish ambitions.
yes, we believe that Tempter is actual
but we also cite our own "ancient serpent"
in our own brains.
Jesus was master of his,
and you should be master of yours.
rely on God and do your part.
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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31 Aug 2006 02:34:12 PM |
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# Jesus proved himself the master of his own
# "ancient serpent" when he responded to these
# confrontations with a pure reliance upon God.
obviously self preservation
is not 'evil' in and of itself.
for God and man the point at which
one's own desire for self preservation
encroaches upon other's self preservation
and 'freedoms' is the point at which 'he'
is at a variance with "love" and so, at
variance with God, and we generally call
this "sin".
in the little societies man has set up,
the communities who group themselves together
under 'law' agree that each citizen is
allowed life and free space.
that is, by consensus, we cede each other
the right to be alive and to have free space.
and when we find individuals among us who
won't agree that each person is so allowed,
we call them "outlaw" and suggest that
they are living outside of the law.
is essence, the state institutes
a behavior that resembles "love"
it is true that the state is not able
to place "love" -in- anyone but has given
itself the ability to make each agree
to allow each other certain rights
and freedoms.
and so, if, while seeking your own self preservation
and free space, you infringe upon everyone else's
identical right, you fall out of love and break the law.
individually and in groups.
heaven forbid you should make the gods angry.
maybe you can agree that the 'higher powers'
haven't gone anywhere, that is, they haven't
disappeared from this earthly realm.
once again, the state probably isn't able to open
your eyes to the presence of the higher powers, but
the state can institute coded behaviors anyway.
well, it can and it does.
whatever 'it' is.
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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31 Aug 2006 02:34:32 PM |
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# no, this doesn't suggest that you
# toss yourself under the wheels of a bus
# to prove that you have overcome the
# instinct for self preservation,
# it merely says that you, as human in
# the image and likeness of your Creator,
# are called to a higher set of purposes
# which supercede selfish ambitions.
so 'self preservation' is a 'selfish ambition'?
well, yes, it is, that's exactly what it is.
"it's desire is for you"
and so, when you look to the benefit of others
and not just your own benefit, you cross over
into this land of 'good deeds' which prove
your love for and allegiance with God.
and, as you are proving this
even to yourself, your Faith grows.
mind you, -our- Faith is -not- 'blind'
no, we know the God in whom we trust.
and doing as we know is our aim.
mind you, once again, the state is not able
to decree this aim. the state can only decree
that you don't hurt each other. the state cannot
decree that you love each other beyond this point.
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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31 Aug 2006 02:34:48 PM |
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# and so, if, while seeking your own self preservation
# and free space, you infringe upon everyone else's
# identical right, you fall out of love and break the law.
# individually and in groups.
# heaven forbid you should make the 'gods' angry.
# maybe you can agree that the 'higher powers'
# haven't gone anywhere, that is, they haven't
# disappeared from this earthly realm.
you'd figure it was also obvious that a state can
become corrupted and hold up a favored class for
which it writes decrees to preserve the life and
well being of only that preferred class above all others.
but we understand that the Idea of Statehood is a
Divine one, and also, that the heavenly realms do,
in fact, pay attention to the State in the hands of man.
and so, your understanding of the rights mandated
to all people thru agreement, is also a responsibility
to see that the rights of certain classes are never
infringed upon by a state in itself.
lest THE State itself become annoyed
and strip away your veneer of Sovereignty.
cuz it can and has and will continue.
be aware.
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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31 Aug 2006 02:35:08 PM |
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# once again, the state probably isn't able to open
# your eyes to the presence of the higher powers, but
# the state can institute coded behaviors anyway.
# well, it can and it does.
# whatever 'it' is.
mind you, it's probably just as obvious that some
class of people cannot simply see a personal lack
and suggest that they are owed some sort of equality
of ownership simply because they feel they want that
equality. that could be construed as a subtle
form of thievery.
God will deal with the gluttonous
in God's own inimitable fashion.
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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01 Sep 2006 02:56:56 AM |
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you can 'pray' all the time,
you don't have to be asking
for anything to be praying.
if you want "God's will" to
be done on earth as it is
in God's Presence, lines of
communication are a good
place to begin.
you don't -always- talk to
your 'friends' making requests
of -them-, and you can talk to
God without making requests, as well.
these gestures of Faith build up as
a currency, and, perhaps, in accruing
such a currency, when you -do- make
some sort of request, God won't be
seeing you as some sort of cynical
little creature who just wants
to -get- something.
God may even make a request of you.
albeit, probably, not out of Personal need.
may be some simple request like your
acquiring the discernment to know what
you need when you need it and not with
an eye to squandering your gifts
on cheap theatrics.
do you even know what you need?
what you lack?
in God's eyes?
well, talk to God
you claim you have allowed
yourself 'free speech'
you don't need anyone else's
permission to open up and maintain
lines of communication with God.
'free speech' isn't just about
what 'shocking' thing you can
say to titillate your cronies.
you have protection from anyone
interfering in your drawing nearer
to God thru your speech.
happy trails
you know that 'prayer' that everyone
has heard at least once in their lives;
it doesn't go directly to bread and protection
it begins with you establishing some sort of
loving and respectful relationship with God.
ain't that right, Uh Huh?
we don't do hocus pocus
we don't walk up to a mountain
and tell it to move and -our-
_words_ lift the mountain away.
no, we come to an agreement with God.
and God works wonders in our midst.
when we speak to God thru
Jesus Christ, we know to
whom we speak.
for instance, if we make a request
thru Jesus Christ, we know who we
are asking, and from whom to
expect an answer.
this specificity of knowledgeable
understanding is -your- safeguard
against being come upon by forces
which may -not- have your best
interest as 'their' interest.
we come to that point where we are
led by God and our doings are in
line with our wants and wishes,
chiefly, the want and wish to be
in agreement with God.
funny thing is, a small "amount"
of Faith is a great and wonderful
thing and no Faith is nothing at all.
so you need not ask;
"how -much- Faith will move this mountain?"
but you may begin to ask;
"where is my assurance that my
wants are in line with my desire
to be in agreement with God?"
so, you come to Christ and reckon
together why this mountain is there
in the first place.
is it to your advantage to be there
even if it seems to block your way?
who would care? who would know?
blind force cannot care and can not know.
but what is Faith and how does one 'get' Faith?
if we suggest that Faith is the confident
assurance that God will act on behalf of
human beings using the name and title
of Jesus Christ as intermediary,
and that Faith is the titled possession
of Christ by virtue of Jesus' unique
identification with God,
we 'get' Faith as we take possession of
God's Gift to humanity thru Jesus Christ.
that is, we 'see' Faith when we
'see' Jesus, but we make Faith
our own as we walk in agreement
with God, thru Jesus Christ,
and that confident assurance that
Jesus had, becomes our possession.
that confident assurance was given to
humanity in the person of Jesus Christ,
and Jesus Christ gives the same to you
as his reconciling gift to God.
and now, when you speak to God
you will have that same confident
assurance that God hears you
as Christ has.
and you will see the evidence
of God's actions on your behalf.
don't be alarmed if some of God's
actions on your behalf is in
tidying up your agreement with,
and understanding of, God, and,
-your- speech begins to change,
and -your- words no longer bring
condemnation on your own head,
but, instead, reflect your
agreement with God.
feeding -your- Faith,
from God to you to God
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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01 Sep 2006 04:23:31 AM |
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Timothy Sutter <a202010@lycos.com> wrote:
[noise in greater quantity than usual]
to which I reply:
an answer.
this mountain?
but we Faith and Jesus Christ as interest.
we are led by virtue of God's Presence, lines of Jesus Christ by
virtue of Faith and reckon together why this mountain is in tidying up
as well.
these gestures of Faith is safeguard against being come to humanity in
their lives it doesn't go directly to your behalf of Faith and
wonderful thing is, we speak to move and God to be asking
for instance, if it and protection from anyone interfering in line
with God?
so, you even make a small amount of you. albeit, probably, not with
God, thru Jesus Christ gives the mountain and tell it to be done on
your way?
who would know?
blind force cannot care and protection it seems to God you need anyone
else's permission to be praying.
if we Faith is the discernment to your agreement with, and God build
up to humanity thru Jesus Christ, and words no longer bring
condemnation on earth as it and not out of Jesus' unique
identification with you have allowed yourself speech
isn't just about what is in the same confident assurance that that
confident assurance that is, a request thru your gifts on your
cronies.
you as well.
these gestures of Jesus Christ, we speak.
for instance, if we suggest that Faith is nothing at all.
so you will see the titled possession of Jesus Christ.
that everyone has heard at least once in the first place.
is there even know what you want and now, when we make a request like
your making requests of Jesus' unique identification with an answer.
this mountain?
But what you even if it begins with God, and, speech begins to God.
and title of Personal need.
may even make Faith will to you need
lojbab
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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01 Sep 2006 05:00:26 AM |
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you can 'pray' all the time,
you don't have to be asking
for anything to be praying.
if you want "God's will" to
be done on earth as it is
in God's Presence, lines of
communication are a good
place to begin.
you don't -always- talk to
your 'friends' making requests
of -them-, and you can talk to
God without making requests, as well.
these gestures of Faith build up as
a currency, and, perhaps, in accruing
such a currency, when you -do- make
some sort of request, God won't be
seeing you as some sort of cynical
little creature who just wants
to -get- something.
God may even make a request of you.
albeit, probably, not out of Personal need.
may be some simple request like your
acquiring the discernment to know what
you need when you need it and not with
an eye to squandering your gifts
on cheap theatrics.
do you even know what you need?
what you lack?
in God's eyes?
well, talk to God
you claim you have allowed
yourself 'free speech'
you don't need anyone else's
permission to open up and maintain
lines of communication with God.
'free speech' isn't just about
what 'shocking' thing you can
say to titillate your cronies.
you have protection from anyone
interfering in your drawing nearer
to God thru your speech.
happy trails
you know that 'prayer' that everyone
has heard at least once in their lives;
it doesn't go directly to bread and protection
it begins with you establishing some sort of
loving and respectful relationship with God.
ain't that right, Uh Huh?
we don't do hocus pocus
we don't walk up to a mountain
and tell it to move and -our-
_words_ lift the mountain away.
no, we come to an agreement with God.
and God works wonders in our midst.
when we speak to God thru
Jesus Christ, we know to
whom we speak.
for instance, if we make a request
thru Jesus Christ, we know who we
are asking, and from whom to
expect an answer.
this specificity of knowledgeable
understanding is -your- safeguard
against being come upon by forces
which may -not- have your best
interest as 'their' interest.
we come to that point where we are
led by God and our doings are in
line with our wants and wishes,
chiefly, the want and wish to be
in agreement with God.
funny thing is, a small "amount"
of Faith is a great and wonderful
thing and no Faith is nothing at all.
so you need not ask;
"how -much- Faith will move this mountain?"
but you may begin to ask;
"where is my assurance that my
wants are in line with my desire
to be in agreement with God?"
so, you come to Christ and reckon
together why this mountain is there
in the first place.
is it to your advantage to be there
even if it seems to block your way?
who would care? who would know?
blind force cannot care and can not know.
but what is Faith and how does one 'get' Faith?
if we suggest that Faith is the confident
assurance that God will act on behalf of
human beings using the name and title
of Jesus Christ as intermediary,
and that Faith is the titled possession
of Christ by virtue of Jesus' unique
identification with God,
we 'get' Faith as we take possession of
God's Gift to humanity thru Jesus Christ.
that is, we 'see' Faith when we
'see' Jesus, but we make Faith
our own as we walk in agreement
with God, thru Jesus Christ,
and that confident assurance that
Jesus had, becomes our possession.
that confident assurance was given to
humanity in the person of Jesus Christ,
and Jesus Christ gives the same to you
as his reconciling gift to God.
and now, when you speak to God
you will have that same confident
assurance that God hears you
as Christ has.
and you will see the evidence
of God's actions on your behalf.
don't be alarmed if some of God's
actions on your behalf is in
tidying up your agreement with,
and understanding of, God, and,
-your- speech begins to change,
and -your- words no longer bring
condemnation on your own head,
but, instead, reflect your
agreement with God.
feeding -your- Faith,
from God to you to God
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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02 Sep 2006 06:22:12 AM |
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# so fine, God is One God.
# and knowing God is "Love"
and how do we know this?
we demonstrated that no trigger
of metastability -could- exist
to initiate material genesis.
we assigned the absolute
necessity for Creative origin.
and Creative origin -is- Love.
that -is- part of what -it- is.
in part, Love -is- Creative origin.
remember the linguistics bit.
in the final analysis,
the object defines itself.
the semantic triggers
do not define the object.
"purple fragrant sweet spicy and floral"
does not define "lavendar"
the object itself, held
in your grubby little paws,
-that- defines "lavendar"
and while "Love Creator Savior Counsellor Comforter..."
may trigger "God" in your mind,
when we say "Love is Creation"
we are calling a thing by what it is.
but that which defines God -is- God.
when God overshadows your consciousness,
then you can say that you know God.
you cannot say that you know God by
delineating a set of memory triggers.
any more than you can say that
you know lavendar by delineating
a set of its attributes.
that is, if i inspect lavendar,
and set down a list of attributes,
and you come along and convince
yourself that you comprehend
the entire listing,
even if my listing is painfully detailed,
all you will ever know is my description.
that is, until you pick up
a sprig of it yourself.
long story short;
when you examine a sprig of lavendar,
-that- is -your- knowledge of that thing.
-not- -my- painfully detailed description.
so, we use the term "Love"
in our description of God.
and now, all we wish to do
is to cordom off "Love" to
some first approximation,
as Creation.
having already demonstrated that
Creative origin is necessitated
by material genesis.
not and never that some -thing-
set off a metastable trigger to
initiate the material genesis,
but that no such metastable trigger
-can- exist, and therefore, by necessity,
a purposeful, directed, creative event
-must- have initiated genesis.
and we define both the event
and the event maker as "Love"
and then, we seek to broaden
out our definition of "Love"
to more thoroughly describe
the state of affairs, -before-
the first Creative event.
the Creative event is an expression of Love
the Creator is what Love is.
and, a Creative event does
not speak of selfish desires.
a Creative event does not suggest;
"I and Only I"
and so, we say that "Love"
is an outward effusion
from One to an Other,
because a Creative event flows out
of a Creator and is received
with applesauce [applause]
when and if we inspect the
Creation of the Spirit Host
we'll see that the same sort
of thing applies there as well.
but, that Spirit Host applauded
the Creation of the Material universe.
all we suggest is that God, also,
applauded the Creation of the
Spirit Host -by- God.
that is, when God began to Create for God,
God applauded this effort as a proof of "Love"
a proof of a thing -they- already knew by Faith.
and you get this cyclic roundabout,
they are Love, they Create, they are One God,
they Create, they are One God, they are Love,
they are One God, they are Love, they Create.
now, you'll see funny things by
going back and forth to attenuate
your vision.
God spoke the material in to existance
and then, -formed- man from the stuff.
God didn't -speak- man in
to existance, at first.
God is now speaking God in to man thru Faith.
and God is forging a new creation
in man that is exactly like God.
God's image of man as image of God
began to be perfected when God pulled
out the companion from within the man.
before the companion was pulled out,
the companion was hidden, even to man.
in God, the Companion dwells within
and is not experienced by any
other but God.
but, the Companion is God.
in a sense, man is to image of God as
'list of attributes' is to knowledge
of 'lavender'
that is, man is like a list of attributes
that describe God in likeness, but God
-is- the thing itself.
like, for instance, man's 'sight' is a sort
of 'description' of God's sight in a similar
manner as a paragraph of words that describe
human sight is not human sight itself but
only a description of human sight.
like, if you say things like;
"light bounces off of some object and impinges
on the pins and cones in the retina and leaves
an inverted image of that particular object
which is transmitted to the brain on neurons
and a person 'sees' the object in 'his' mind"
this description is -not- human sight itself,
but a wordy description of the thing itself,
and now, we do a recursion and say that human
sight itself, is just a descriptive image
-of- God's own vision.
where God's own vision is not filtered in any manner.
see, man is -only- an 'image' of God.
God is the defining knowledge of God.
man is only somewhat -like- God.
but -they- had poor communication.
for instance, those Two that were One Flesh
-somewhat- like, as God is One God, fell short
of that Unity which -is- God and experienced
a 'want' within each other than blinded
their 'eyes to God'.
snuffed out their 'lamps'
before they were ever lit.
we may say that God formed the Spirit Host
from a God-breathed substance of Faith
and we've mentioned, at some lengths,
the "want" experienced in Lucifer. and
how this revealed a "darkened"
understanding.
"Micha el" who is also, 'like God'
remained Faithful, and stands
as testament to God's Love.
has no want
knows no sin
bows before Christ.
YHWH is God of Gods.
this, while unknowing of the 'Companion'
a 'Companion' "Micha el" comes
to understand thru -our- message.
in fact, we -are- "Micha el's"
knowledge of the Companion.
a knowledge we gain thru the
indwelling of The Holy Spirit.
and Love is perfected.
this is the condensed version.
but one taste of God's Love
and the scales will drop from your eyes.
and, in an instant,
in the twinkling of an eye,
you'll realize
God is Love.
this isn't finished.
if it looks like there are gaps and
'blind' spots, chalk it up to our nature.
on closer inspection, new levels of
missing connectivity are bound to appear
which we can paint in with finer
and finer strokes.
but we say that God, not only has a far wider
field of vision, all encompassing, if you will,
but, that God has the cognitive structure to focus
on the entire spectrum of 'events' in some
simultaneous manner which 'sees' things
as they actually are.
our focus attentuates over time,
God's sight is everywhere in focus.
we look far, we look close,
and time stands between the two.
God sees far and close in the same instant.
God -must- have mercy on us.
accept it.
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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| Title: Re: praise |
02 Sep 2006 06:23:51 AM |
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God is the beginning
the beginning is Love
Love is the beginning
when you "love" God, you
consider God as the beginning.
there is no thing before or previous to God.
when you set God as first, you place no thing
above God, and in so doing, you "love" God.
when God says that God "Loves" those who keep
the Word of God, this is not so much a conditional
"love" as it is a statement of pure fact.
as i suggested before, this "sin consciousness"
forges a lie in the beings that are held sway
to it, a lie that, primarily seems to suggest
that "i am first"
where this "i" is not God but the
illusory opinion of some created being
[who] is not the beginning.
God can not accept this lie as True, and
must remain true to God as the precursor
to all things, but God loves that truth
in you that you are the creation of God.
as you become the lie of the "sin consciousness,"
you erect a barrier to the effusion of love
from God in you and forge a separation
that removes you from God's Presence.
now, when Abraham, that person who believed that
God was this ultimate source of All, offered
up his own life, he demonstrated that he fully
understood that God was this true beginning.
He held no thing up as more precious or
primary than God, even his very own life.
not so much a condition that earned a showing
of God's Love but a demonstration of the truth
born in him that God could take hold of and multiply.
when you "love" your fellow human beings
you consider them as your own relatives,
as stemming from the same primary source.
when you "love" your fellow human beings
you consider them as of your beginning.
no "strangers" in the land at all.
when you see these "strangers" as "friends"
you complete the cycle and believe that God
is the beginning and source of All.
and in so doing, show your Love for God.
yeah yeah, i know, so someone hands
you directions to make a cheese souflé
doesn't mean it won't fall the first
several thousand times you try to make one.
but, i believe it can be done.
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02 Sep 2006 06:24:55 AM |
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where this "i" is not God but the
illusory opinion of some created being
[who] is not the beginning.
as The Beginning was offering
the equality of Unity in God
this being grasped for a
preeminence that could
never be True.
behind the adamantine bars
of the sin consciousness is
the confinement so ordained.
and the pardon of Liberty is to be
granted at the sole discretion of
the bearer of Eternal Sanctity.
"I stand at the door"
at the very heart of it,
"Satan" -is- "good and evil"
"Satan" -is- in opposition with "Satan"
"Satan" -is- a "yes = no" statement.
i alluded to this in times previously.
YHWH 'The Be' is Good
"Satan" is -not- some "pure evil"
that is forever at odds with YHWH
who alone is Good.
no, "Satan" is caught in
interminable struggle
with "Satan"
"Satan" -is- "good and evil"
there is no credible opposition
to the Good that is YHWH, 'The Be'.
-but- YHWH goes to lengths to
correct "yes = no" statements.
and in this sense, "Satan" is
a rebellious child in need
of correction.
when you are aligned with Jesus Christ,
you can see that fearsome and daunting
foe on the most simple level, as "want"
"Satan" in part, carries an emulation
of YHWH, after all, YHWH created a "day star"
who "sealed the sum" and was perfect,
-until- an injustice, or a "yes = no"
statement was found within.
that 'yes = no' statement being manufactured
-by- our 'day star' who was 'like' YHWH but
who 'wanted' to 'rise above' YHWH, 'The Be'
YHWH, the pinnacle.
YHWH is The Creator
THE Creator has this preeminence in all things.
and "Satan" falls, arguing with "Satan"
to rise above the pinnacle
do not fear "The Adversary"
neither pity "The Adversary"
Truth abolishes conflict
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02 Sep 2006 06:25:22 AM |
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if you hold this special reverence
for "Satan" you are placing a special
reverence where it simply does not belong.
"Satan" simply does not deserve your
special honor admiration praise
and reverence.
YHWH is God
to YHWH alone should you pay your respects
Christ our Savior is your emulation
YHWH is Good
YHWH does not contain 'yes = no' statements
YHWH could not place 'yes = no'
statements within any
Creation of YHWH.
and yet, the developement of such
statements came as no suprise to YHWH.
why?
God is creating a perfect image of God that is not God.
for God, this neither presents nor represents conflict.
for the Creation, the potential
for conflict -may- be present.
"i am God but i am not God"
therefore;
God can perceive the potential for conflict
without having a resident personal conflict.
when God says;
"I am God"
this is Truth
when a Creation says;
"i am God but i am not God and i -want- to be God"
this is false
aside;
look at the first thing the man and the woman
say after they 'eat' 'knowledge of good and evil'
they say;
"i ate but someone else is to blame"
that is to say;
"i did it but i didn't do it"
they are no longer children of The Truth to Life,
they are children of falsehood to death
to rise -above- _and_ be -like- the Most High
is murder, and the Kingdom of God does not
reside in the heart of a murder.
and we begin to see Jesus
the True Life
whose gaping yawn outstretches the grave.
Matthew 5:37
....let your "Yes' be "Yes,'
and your "No,' be "No.'
anything else is want.
now that you have drawn the -obvious-
conclusion that Personal Creator God
generated your existance according
to purpose, -can- you consider it wise
to walk blindly through Creator God's
presence with no territorial acknowledgement?
-we- all realize that drawing -this-
obvious conclusion does not introduce
you to Personal Creator God...
....does not bring the revealed knowledge
of God within your experience,
but, drawing this obvious conclusion
does oblige you to refrain from casual
tresspass and seek to understand what
is this willful purpose of Creator God
to bring you in to existance.
that is, having drawn this obvious conclusion
you no longer -can- maintain any form of excusable
ignorance should you be found in tresspass of
Creator God's own territorial designs.
-that- veil of ignorance no longer offers its protection.
"peace" you say?
how so, when you stand as responsible
for the crucifixion of Christ?
and you stand as -responsible- until and unless
you accept that term of unconditional surrender
to Creator God's territorial imperative.
then and only then, does the Aegis
of God's own Grace offer up the ultimate
protection against unrecognized shortfall,
and also, recognizable tresspass.
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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01 Sep 2006 02:58:34 AM |
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at any rate, showing yourself as
faithful in matters pertaining to
this world is value.
and in "the world to come" untold,
unseen, unimagined magnificence
and responsibility.
be nice to yourself, yourselves
and your things here and now,
and we can enter in to
the Joy of God.
God is The Creator
we may very well be
entering in to -that- Joy.
remember;
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Job 38:4,7
Where were you when I laid the
foundations of the earth?...
When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Declare, if you have understanding....
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see, the Creation was a Joyous event.
what if you were given the
ability to breathe life
into a planet?
what sort of "God" would -you- be?
well, one thing we figure for sure
is that you will never -get- that
ability outside of Faith and Unity
in God's Presence.
just something to think about.
sometimes, you may find, the thought
of such a tremendous -responsibility-
is, in itself, humbling.
greedy and fearful is not value.
Unity of God's presence in Christ is value.
the Resurrection is value.
there is no fear in the Resurrection.
only Love
i've probably mentioned this before
but maybe only i heard it, it was sort
of along the lines of human beings,
who are transformed in the likeness
and Image of God thru Christ,
revitalizing the universe.
in a way, you get to be "like Christ"
in a very real manner and you are granted
planets by The Almighty and it's your
assignment to refurbish them and make
them live again and maybe even grow a
crop of material human beings that may
just opt for the Tree of Life without
ever going thru all that knowledge
of good and evil bit.
maybe that fervent heat which will melt
away the elements and formulate the basis
for a new heaven and earth will come,
in part, at our hands, thru Christ
with Christ for Christ and by Christ.
always remembering that those "twinklings"
of an eye can be experienced on more than
one level, and maybe one of those levels is
is like a frame you don't even see, and one
of those levels is like slow motion.
so, something could happen in a twinkling
of an eye and you still see your entire
life flash before your eyes.
there are a few different ways
to look at this sort of thing,
but compare this to the
parable of the "talents"
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Matthew 25:14-21
"For the kingdom of heaven is like a man
traveling to a far country, who called his
own servants and delivered his goods to them.
before he went on his journey, he gave one
servant five talents, that servant went
and traded with them, and made another
five talents.
After a long time the lord of those
servants came and settled accounts
with his them.
"So he who had received five talents
came and brought five other talents,
saying, "Lord, you delivered to me
five talents; look, I have gained
five more talents besides them.'
His lord said to him, "Well done,
good and faithful servant; you were
faithful over a few things, I will
make you ruler over many things.
Enter into the joy of your lord.'
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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01 Sep 2006 04:19:49 AM |
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Timothy Sutter <a202010@lycos.com> wrote:
[yet more noise]
To which I reply:
while in the instinct for self preservation, it merely says that
ancient serpent when he responded to prove that you, as human in the
master of your Creator, are called to contend.
yes, the flesh, before the brain stems.
with a brain stem is said to bear a pure reliance upon God.
Jesus' provision and protection of yours.
rely on God and do your Creator, are called to bear a pure reliance
upon God.
Jesus' provision and do your Creator, are called to the brain of his
all human in the door but we also cite our own brains.
Jesus aside and likeness of a pure reliance upon God.
no, this doesn't suggest that you Jesus proved himself the door but we
all must rule over and likeness of a brain stems.
with reliance upon God.
Jesus' provision and questioned these are, nourishment, preservation
of life and likewise, we all have this portion of course, Jesus, of
his, and questioned these stones bread throw yourself under the image
and likewise, we all must rule over and do your part.
three make these three make these are, nourishment, preservation of
his all must rule over and likeness of his all
lojbab
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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01 Sep 2006 04:59:48 AM |
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# no, Jesus had something that all human beings
# have and no wooden arks have, and that is
# the neo-cortex and human mind.
of course, Jesus, while in the flesh,
before the resurrection, ascension
and Glorification, like all human beings,
had a brain stem, that "ancient serpent"
with which to contend.
yes, the brain stem is said to bear
a striking resemblance to the
brain of a reptile.
and this portion of the brain
has very simple motivations,
among these are, nourishment, preservation
of life and protection of personal space.
Jesus, of course, was confronted with all of these.
we see an instance where a Tempter
called Jesus aside and questioned
these three;
"make these stones bread"
"throw yourself from the roof"
"all of these cities will i give you"
Jesus proved himself the master of his own
"ancient serpent" when he responded to these
confrontations with a pure reliance upon God.
Jesus' provision and safety was assured
through his all sufficient Faith.
now, we all have this ancient serpent to confront.
YHWH told Cain;
[excerpted paraphrase]
"sin is crouched by the door but you can master it"
and likewise, we all must
"rule over" and "master"
our brain stems.
with reliance upon God.
no, this doesn't suggest that you
toss yourself under the wheels of a bus
to prove that you have overcome the
instinct for self preservation,
it merely says that you, as human in
the image and likeness of your Creator,
are called to a higher set of purposes
which supercede selfish ambitions.
yes, we believe that Tempter is actual
but we also cite our own "ancient serpent"
in our own brains.
Jesus was master of his,
and you should be master of yours.
rely on God and do your part.
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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01 Sep 2006 04:17:12 AM |
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Timothy Sutter <a202010@lycos.com> wrote:
[meaningless noise]
To which I offer the following in return:
What I remembered you, YHWH, and substantial Faith had something that
all human being, became an identical representation of death.
now, the wooden ark overlayed in the human being by the flesh, no
contribution to you, YHWH, and dwells within the mind of God,
This is a subtle one.
while YHWH conceived in Jesus of the Holy Spirit was Jesus, conceived
in Jesus came in Mary, so identified with the human mind of Adam, see
Jesus,
but, Jesus had no wooden ark of God, as YHWH spoke thru the subsequent
indwelling was a wooden ark overlayed in Whom i am well pleased
the flesh, no thing has ever seen or thru, a song of God, as the were
essentially identical, and, as the human beings have vowed I will make
good.
Salvation comes from God, as was born that all human mind that is, the
Faith had no bounds nor overshadowing even to you, YHWH, and that is a
wooden arks have, and no bounds nor overshadowing even to you, to the
human mind that is a representational Identity to your holy temple.
Those who cling to the ark which is a representational Image of
Nazareth is Saving Grace.
Identifying with a wooden ark overlayed in to the human mind. the
Presence.
at Peace representation of Jesus, which is Saving Grace.
Identifying with a song of Jesus, but, Jesus and dwells within the
Holy Spirit in to complete subjection and human beings, who cling to
dwell bodily in to the personal God which can become severely United
with a subtle one.
While YHWH and no thing has ever seen or fully understood, and Image
of Jesus became an identical representation of Adam, see Jesus,
birthed in the mind of God, as was sealed by the human beings
lojbab
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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01 Sep 2006 04:59:29 AM |
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----
Jonah 2:7-9
"When my life was ebbing away,
I remembered you, YHWH,
and my prayer rose to you,
to your holy temple.
"Those who cling to worthless idols
forfeit the grace that could be theirs.
But I, with a song of thanksgiving,
will sacrifice to you.
What I have vowed I will make good.
Salvation comes from YHWH."
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the "difference" between YHWH
and Jesus of Nazareth is
a subtle one.
while YHWH spoke thru the Mercy Seat,
atop the ark of the covenant, the wooden ark
overlayed in gold made no contribution
to the speech emanating forth.
as YHWH conceived in Mary
the fullness of Deity came to dwell bodily
in Jesus and was Jesus, but, Jesus was -not-
a wooden ark which offered no contribution
of its own.
no, Jesus had something that all human beings
have and no wooden arks have, and that is
the neo-cortex and human mind.
the human mind of Jesus came in to complete
subjection and full agreement with the
personal God which is the Living God
which is YHWH.
giving Jesus that perfect and substantial
Faith thru intimate personalized knowledge.
the human mind of Jesus became an identical
representation of the personalized Living God
and the Holy Spirit, which conceived in Mary,
so identified with the human mind that was born
that the subsequent indwelling was received
with a hearty declaration from God,
"This is My Son, in Whom i am well pleased"
the mind of Jesus, conceived by the Holy Spirit
in the human being, became an exact representational
Image of the Mind of God, which no thing has ever seen
or fully understood, and when the overlay was sealed
by the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit upon the symbolic
death burial and resurrection of the flesh,
no conflict was brought in to question.
that is, the mind of Jesus, birthed in the human being
by the Holy Spirit was a representational Identity
to the Holy Spirit who came to rest
upon the man's shoulders.
the 'two' were essentially identical,
and, as One, the Faith had no bounds
nor overshadowing even to the defeat of death.
now, -we-, the human beings, who are born of Adam,
see Jesus, that exact representation and Image of God,
as the doorway thru which -we- can become severely
United with God, as was intended from the beginning.
we could never identify with, or
thru, a wooden ark overlayed in Gold.
but we can commune directly with the human character
of Jesus, which has risen above mortallity, and dwells
within the unapproachable Light which is God's Presence.
that is -our- Saving Grace.
Identifying with the Presence.
at Peace
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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30 Aug 2006 01:18:10 PM |
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Timothy Sutter <a202010@lycos.com> wrote:
releasing your praises makes you praiseworthy
withholding your praises strangles you
with the root of bitterness.
christians should be praising God
Praise God.
christians should be praising each other.
Praise is earned. God has earned my praise. You are an embarrassment
to God. No praise to you.
christians should be giving
each other reason to be praised.
That lets you out.
christians should be giving
each other reason to praise God.
Try getting educated. If you can grow intelligent and knowledgeable
enough to make a useful statement, then that would indeed be reason to
praise God for yet another miracle.
But I won't be holding ny breath.
lojbab
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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30 Aug 2006 01:33:27 PM |
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releasing your praises makes you praiseworthy
withholding your praises strangles you
with the root of bitterness.
christians should be praising God
christians should be praising each other.
christians should be giving
each other reason to be praised.
christians should be giving
each other reason to praise God.
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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30 Aug 2006 02:18:09 PM |
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==
2 Corinthians 12:20
For I fear lest, when I come,
I shall not find you such as I wish,
and that I shall be found by you such
as you do not wish; lest there be
contentions, jealousies, outbursts
of wrath, selfish ambitions,
backbitings, whisperings,
conceits, tumults;
==
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2 Corinthians 1
Therefore, when I was planning this,
did I do it lightly? Or the things I plan,
do I plan according to the flesh, that with
me there should be Yes, Yes, and No, No?
But as God is faithful, our word to you
was not Yes and No. For the Son of God,
Jesus Christ, who was preached among you
by us, by me, Silvanus, and Timothy was
not Yes and No, but in Him was Yes.
For all the promises of God in Him are Yes,
and in Him "Be it so", to the glory of God through us.
Now He who establishes us with you in Christ
and has anointed us is God, who also has
sealed us and given us the Spirit
in our hearts as a guarantee.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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30 Aug 2006 02:20:11 PM |
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In article <44F5E471.2A01@lycos.com> Timothy Sutter <a202010@lycos.com> writes:
==
2 Corinthians 12:20
For I fear lest, when I come,
I shall not find you such as I wish,
and that I shall be found by you such
as you do not wish; lest there be
contentions, jealousies, outbursts
of wrath, selfish ambitions,
backbitings, whisperings,
conceits, tumults;
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2 Corinthians 1
Therefore, when I was planning this,
did I do it lightly? Or the things I plan,
do I plan according to the flesh, that with
me there should be Yes, Yes, and No, No?
But as God is faithful, our word to you
was not Yes and No. For the Son of God,
Jesus Christ, who was preached among you
by us, by me, Silvanus, and Timothy was
not Yes and No, but in Him was Yes.
For all the promises of God in Him are Yes,
and in Him "Be it so", to the glory of God through us.
Now He who establishes us with you in Christ
and has anointed us is God, who also has
sealed us and given us the Spirit
in our hearts as a guarantee.
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Say Bob, isn't it about Markov time again? Bast knows there's
enough material.
-- cary
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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31 Aug 2006 11:27:14 AM |
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In article <qhfcf2h3n1b32qut21vefovd7t5tqt3dor@4ax.com> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> writes:
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Say Bob, isn't it about Markov time again? Bast knows there's
enough material.
Your my is command wish.
So I see, so I see...
-- cary
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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30 Aug 2006 02:27:14 PM |
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it's not an unheard of notion;
like;
the Kingdom of God is in your midst
-and- in a faraway country
and your desire is for your 'midst'
to align with the faraway country.
and so, 'on earth as in 'heaven''
and Jesus -did- go off to a farway country
when he disappeared upon his ascension
that same 'faraway country' where he had known
Glory in God even before all of Creation.
but he also, -did- send back that Paracletos
to be 'in your midst' again, just as Jesus
was in the midst of his material element.
but even that is still a shadow.
as a full manifestation of Christ on earth
is just as sure as the sun rising in
the east every morning.
and for you, that is sure enough.
but now, -you- are in this world and
Christ is in this world thru -you-
under the auspices of that Paracletos.
but what's also funny is that Jesus Christ
represents that "new heavens and new earth
wherein righteousness will dwell."
because righteousness did, in fact,
dwell in Jesus Christ, and therefore,
in the world and on the earth and
under the earth and also, as ever was,
in the inner regions where no physical
man may enter in.
but even -that- was a shadow.
for when 'heaven' and earth become an identical place
there will be no need for anyone to say;
"know YHWH"
or
"come to Christ"
because all will know God
and God will fully inhabit a dwelling
not made by the hand of mankind
and very beautiful in our eyes.
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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30 Aug 2006 02:27:43 PM |
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so, the Love which is God
is True Light and the
only source of Life.
it is not a conscious effort
on the part of God that anything
that steps away from that
source has no life.
that which runs contrary to God
-must- die, -not- as a punishment,
but as a fact of reality.
very much -like- a lightbulb
in a lamp provides no light when
unplugged from the wall socket.
there is no choosing involved here,
unplug the lamp, no light.
unplug from God, no life.
but remember for a second,
although this happens very fast
in our little -likeness-, when
you unplug a lamp from the wall
socket, the light remains on for
a fraction of a second as it 'turns off'
if you could take a high speed
film of it and slow it down a bit
you'd see the light slowly turn
off -after- the lamp was unplugged.
so, -like- that, human beings don't
just drop to the ground immediately
when they are unplugged from God.
at any rate, -this- situation is WHY Jesus.
WHY the blood
WHY the Cross
we -all- became/become unplugged from God
in part -from- birth -as- children of "Adam"
and in part, -after- birth because we just
remain in that unplugged state by our
own material nature which is, in fact,
predisposed to inanimate death.
look, "Adam" was formed by God and
God breathed the breath of life
into "Adam's" nostrils.
when "Adam" became unplugged -he-
began to die like our lightbulb
who slowly shuts off after you
unplug it from the wall socket,
-but- in a sense,
"Adam and Eve" were enabled to pass
on -that- temporary life to the
flesh thru conception and child birth.
so, -we- get -that- temporary light of life
from our parents and ostensibly from "Adam"
but -that- 'life' is essentially
born as if it were already unplugged
and dieing out, in -likeness- to
our lightbulb friend.
we human beings born of "Adam" are not
exactly like "Adam", in that God did not
directly breathe the breath of life
into us, but we inherited a life
already in decay -from- "Adam"
sure, we have a faint flicker -of-
the breath of life, but -this- we
get from "Adam" along with a
predisposed unplugged condition.
and without going into fine detail
about Jesus and -that- Blood right now,
[i'll get back to that later]
in essence, -that-
set of actions
-by- God
conception-life-crucifixion
blood spillage-burial
and resurrection
make it possible for GOD
to plug -us- back in to Life.
it is -not- some human appeasement
ceremony invented by human beings
to please an unwavering God,
it -is- an action of Love provided
by God to plug us back in while
we were yet dead.
and not only us, but many things,
the earth itself included.
the earth which suffered loss as well
from "Adam's conscious yank on the plug.
and...
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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30 Aug 2006 02:28:10 PM |
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just a quick terminological bit;
this concerns "spirit"
"the breath of life" and
"The Holy Spirit" are not
exactly identical.
while "the breath of life" was breathed
into "Adam" by God and is therefore
an animating "spirit" from God,
"the breath of life" does not
represent "The Mind of Christ"
or personality structure of God.
and so, while it may be stated that
this "spirit", which is an animating
"life force", has God as its ultimate
source, we do not suggest that this
animating life force is God's
own personality structure.
it's -sort- of like, as if this;
it's -like- as if "the breath of life"
is God's bloodstream, and imparted to
the material, it makes material alive,
but, when it is removed from the circulating
Presence of God's own Life -it- slowly wanes
and ceases to support material animation.
much -like- your blood carries your life
on it but taken out of circulation and
placed in a bottle, it slowly ceases to
be useful in support of living tissue.
and so, while we can say that
"the breath of life" lives and
is from God and imparts life
to the material, when removed
from God's own Presence, it wanes.
and that waning process is
like a lightbulb unplugged.
much -unlike- material human beings,
there is no way to drain all
the life out of God.
backtracking a bit, it has been mentioned
how "Adam" never took from the "Tree of Life"
and so, in that regard, it can be stated
that "Adam" was never plugged into -that-
Life which is God's own personality structure,
but was being perpetuated by God's infusion
of the breath of life.
so, how exactly are "the breath of life"
and "the Holy Spirit" different?
well, it is also -like- "the breath of life"
is an aspect of God's Life which specifically
renders animation to the physical material
world, while "The Holy Spirit" is a medium
which bears God in God.
like, "the breath of life" is carried
on blood and oxygen and God is carried
on "the Holy Spirit"
"the breath of life" is not blood and
oxygen because these cannot be said
to be alive in isolation.
the breath of life drives
material animation processes.
but we don't say that _God_ is
made alive by the breath of life,
but that God -is- Life in God's
own Persona.
The Holy Spirit is substance
which is not physically defineable
but, more than that, The Holy Spirit
is Life and Living, The Holy Spirit
carries God and Is God.
so, what of "Adam"
what sort of 'life' did "Adam" possess
after God breathed the 'breath of life'
into the non-living, material formed,
creation, but before "Adam" was able
to reach out and eat from
The Tree of Life?
'alive and -not- alive' at the same time?
yes, "Adam" was a functional material animation,
but "Adam" was not yet inhabitted and possessed
by the Life of God which carries on God's own,
non-physical yet, substantial medium.
the breath of life comes from God and
is supportable in the material by God,
but aside from God's own Presence, the
breath of life does not impart any
everlasting qualities of its own.
admittedly, this is a, somewhat,
complex and recursive issue, but
not one that is without resolution.
and we look at Jesus...
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31 Aug 2006 11:25:26 AM |
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In article <99gcf2levlet30slssgs6fi23vue3ucm0a@4ax.com> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> writes:
Timothy Sutter <a202010@lycos.com> wrote:
[noise]
to which I reply at somewhat greater length:
It shows, definitely. What was `N' here?
-- cary
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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01 Sep 2006 04:13:16 AM |
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(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <99gcf2levlet30slssgs6fi23vue3ucm0a@4ax.com> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> writes:
Timothy Sutter <a202010@lycos.com> wrote:
[noise]
to which I reply at somewhat greater length:
It shows, definitely. What was `N' here?
No idea.
For those who read my posts, didn't understand, and thought that they
should have been able to, the credit for my postings should go to the
author of
http://www.godsrudewireless.co.uk/subs/subs.htm
since I used the "long" version described therein.
I've already had it suggested by one person that my contributions were
superior to those that they were in reply to, so said page-author
deserves great credit indeed.
lojbab
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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30 Aug 2006 02:28:31 PM |
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anyway, here's what God did not do,
God did not let "Adam" die and abolish "Man"
and then form a new man from the dust of the
ground and breathe the breath of life in to
a new creation 'starting all over from scratch,'
as it were, and hope that -this- 'new' "Adam"
did not make the same false move, but took
from the Tree of Life instead.
didn't do that.
God perpetuated Adam's life thru childbirth.
and thru Jesus, repaired "Adam".
that's one thing to keep in mind.
but Jesus is still a -little- bit different.
different from Adam and different from Adam's progeny.
much like Adam and much like Adam's progeny
but a -little- bit different.
but also, _God_ didn't do anything wrong.
it wasn't God's fault that "Adam"
grabbed from that false intention.
and so, if God wiped out Adam and
started all over from scratch, one
may conclude that, somehow, God had
done something wrong of which God
intended to fix, 'the next time'
and like some of us can see and agree,
this is no "trial and error" experiment.
so, it's not -just- that God
addressed the problem, as it lay,
and worked out this Salvation,
but that Man's error was not God's error.
and also, -we- have to keep in mind the
-other- controversy that pre-dates the
forming of "Adam" from the dust of
the ground, and remember that it
-ain't- -all- about -us-.
i'm getting to the special significance
of the Blood of Christ, and i will in a bit;
but...
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| User: "Timothy Sutter" |
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30 Aug 2006 07:27:26 AM |
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and speaking of politics,
what some people wanna know is,
are you running -for- dog catcher
or -from- dog catcher?
it's not at all that some people mind
the wooden appearance, but only that after
you've gone and spruced yourself all up,
this year, the scotch pine is the tree of choice.
you can just stand there and let all these
so-called 'special interests' hang their
little ornaments on you like a little
holiday shrubbery.
and so, now we get to see how this insipid
desire to have 'other people respect you'
-molds- 'you' into some distorted image
of the status quo.
"let peer pressures make a nice little
belgian waffle out of you and we can
all pour syrup on the fruit cake"
you may want to bring your own lemonade to the ball
as we're never quite sure when the pot is laced with
strychnine or something really good for you like that.
"don't forget to use your 'creative imagination'
to shed your conditioning because it is only
this constrictive conditioning that leads
you to believe that the strychnine will harm you,
after all -we're- all drinking it
and it hasn't hurt any of -us- yet."
maybe it's true and maybe it's not
but i'm having tea anyway.
oh, one last thing;
seeing as how you don't want to simply
-declare- yourself to be the Kaiser
and would rather -run- from dog catcher,..
oh, i mean -for- dog catcher...
....darn, i forgot the last bit.
i'll post it if i remember,
but speaking of wooden appearances
don't forget the marionettes.
maybe you'd like the holiday shrubbery better
inasmuch as more diverse ornamentation is
placed on the wooden figure,
and the marionettes tend to be subsumed
entirely by a single 'special interest'
and while you may not -see- the strings
attached, of course, they are ever present...
....under the tree.
please, now is not the time to mention the dog.
its busy eating your homework.
oh, i forgot, that was part of that other bit,
"resubmit application in triplicate;
one for the trash can, one for the
fire place and one for the litter box."
the funny thing is, what is it that
constitutes a people actually
governing themselves?
we can already see how 'belgian waffles'
are mirroring a distorted image and we don't
know -what- you -really- look like.
is it foaming at the mouth or
just enjoying it's dessert?
right, that's it,
if you can't just declare yourself to be dog catcher
you end up running from the dog catcher
but none of us want to play fetch with a marionette
and why would anyone want to catch a dog anyway?
oh, you mean that one foaming at the mouth.
maybe it'll vote six times in the next election
but we may never really know what's
buried under the floor boards.
certainly not anyone's self respect.
and now, back to brahms aand his immortal lullaby.
i -want- to praise you.
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