Politics > Politics-USA > Probe into how Bush allowed 140 Saudis to leave country after 9/11 requested
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Probe into how Bush allowed 140 Saudis to leave country after 9/11 requested |
From The Miami Herald, 9/18/03:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/6799277.htm
WASHINGTON, D.C.
Two Democratic House members from South Florida, Peter Deutsch and
Robert Wexler, are calling for an investigation into how Bush
administration officials allowed about 140 Saudi nationals to leave
the country in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
At a time when all private aviation was grounded, top officials
allowed charter flights to pick up Saudis around the country and then
leave for Saudi Arabia, according to reports in Vanity Fair and The
Tampa Tribune.
The group included some members of the royal family and some relatives
of Osama bin Laden.
The departures occurred as investigators learned that 15 of the 19
hijackers in the Sept. 11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, and some
Saudi officials said they feared a backlash against their citizens.
Deutsch and Wexler requested the General Accounting Office to launch a
formal investigation of the incident.
''It is unconscionable that the Bush administration would bypass
long-standing national security measures by urging the Saudis to
repatriate 140 nationals the day after the largest attack in U.S.
history,'' Wexler said.
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More dirty Bush wash to air out.
Harry
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20 Sep 2003 10:43:14 AM |
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Well, Harry, It would seem that immediately following the attack,
it would be prudent to get potential
terrorists out of the country as quickly as possible.
Kinda like immediately following Pearl Harbor, the government rounded up the
Japanese into camps.
If we had put them in camps, you leftist bums would be whining about their
"civil rights" and your usual BS, as you do now about the Cuban detainees.
You slimy bums are always political, and as you have before, you would sell
out our country to keep your filthy people in office.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:q4momvseirvdqpm3la55nt7dfsprb036ij@4ax.com...
From The Miami Herald, 9/18/03:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/6799277.htm
WASHINGTON, D.C.
Two Democratic House members from South Florida, Peter Deutsch and
Robert Wexler, are calling for an investigation into how Bush
administration officials allowed about 140 Saudi nationals to leave
the country in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
At a time when all private aviation was grounded, top officials
allowed charter flights to pick up Saudis around the country and then
leave for Saudi Arabia, according to reports in Vanity Fair and The
Tampa Tribune.
The group included some members of the royal family and some relatives
of Osama bin Laden.
The departures occurred as investigators learned that 15 of the 19
hijackers in the Sept. 11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, and some
Saudi officials said they feared a backlash against their citizens.
Deutsch and Wexler requested the General Accounting Office to launch a
formal investigation of the incident.
''It is unconscionable that the Bush administration would bypass
long-standing national security measures by urging the Saudis to
repatriate 140 nationals the day after the largest attack in U.S.
history,'' Wexler said.
________________________________________________________
More dirty Bush wash to air out.
Harry
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| User: "John Agosta" |
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| Title: Re: Probe into how Bush allowed 140 Saudis to leave country after 9/11 requested |
20 Sep 2003 10:52:49 AM |
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<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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Well, Harry, It would seem that immediately following the attack,
it would be prudent to get potential
terrorists out of the country as quickly as possible.
Kinda like immediately following Pearl Harbor, the government rounded up
the
Japanese into camps.
If we had put them in camps, you leftist bums would be whining about their
"civil rights" and your usual BS, as you do now about the Cuban detainees.
You slimy bums are always political, and as you have before, you would
sell
out our country to keep your filthy people in office.
Now that is a pretty idiotic thing to say.
"It would seem that immediately following the attack, it would be prudent to
get potential
terrorists out of the country as quickly as possible."
Sending potential terrorists back to where they came from, so they can do
more dirty deeds ?
Wake up, man! Bush let them go supposedly at a time when US airspace was
supposed to be closed.
Some one made an exception for these people, and others are asking, "why?"
A perfectly reasonable question to ask.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:q4momvseirvdqpm3la55nt7dfsprb036ij@4ax.com...
From The Miami Herald, 9/18/03:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/6799277.htm
WASHINGTON, D.C.
Two Democratic House members from South Florida, Peter Deutsch and
Robert Wexler, are calling for an investigation into how Bush
administration officials allowed about 140 Saudi nationals to leave
the country in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
At a time when all private aviation was grounded, top officials
allowed charter flights to pick up Saudis around the country and then
leave for Saudi Arabia, according to reports in Vanity Fair and The
Tampa Tribune.
The group included some members of the royal family and some relatives
of Osama bin Laden.
The departures occurred as investigators learned that 15 of the 19
hijackers in the Sept. 11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, and some
Saudi officials said they feared a backlash against their citizens.
Deutsch and Wexler requested the General Accounting Office to launch a
formal investigation of the incident.
''It is unconscionable that the Bush administration would bypass
long-standing national security measures by urging the Saudis to
repatriate 140 nationals the day after the largest attack in U.S.
history,'' Wexler said.
________________________________________________________
More dirty Bush wash to air out.
Harry
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| User: "Kel" |
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21 Sep 2003 03:18:59 AM |
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<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:mA_ab.15420$uJ2.13580@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
Well, Harry, It would seem that immediately following the attack,
it would be prudent to get potential
terrorists out of the country as quickly as possible.
Kinda like immediately following Pearl Harbor, the government rounded up
the
Japanese into camps.
If we had put them in camps, you leftist bums would be whining about their
"civil rights" and your usual BS, as you do now about the Cuban detainees.
I would imagine that interogatting them might be a more sensible approach.
Just what is the Bush link to the bin Laden's? Wasn't it Bush who banned all
investigative work into Bin Laden when he came into office? You right
wingers need to stop the knee jerk protection of Bush and start to ask
yourselves some questions.
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| User: "peterMelbourneAustralia" |
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| Title: Re: Probe into how Bush allowed 140 Saudis to leave country after 9/11 requested |
21 Sep 2003 09:11:39 PM |
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Bush stopped the enquiry inot Bin Laden when he came into office?
This is news to me. Where did you find this information? Where can I
find this story to learn more about it?
Thanks
N. Peter Evans
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| User: "Kel" |
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22 Sep 2003 08:03:05 AM |
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"peterMelbourneAustralia" <nicholas.evans@students.vu.edu.au> wrote in
message news:81aba80f.0309211811.6f3acb40@posting.google.com...
Bush stopped the enquiry inot Bin Laden when he came into office?
This is news to me. Where did you find this information? Where can I
find this story to learn more about it?
Did Our President Spike The Investigation Of Bin Laden?
On my BBC television show, Newsnight, an American journalist confessed that,
since the 9/11 attacks, U.S. reporters are simply too afraid to ask the
uncomfortable questions that could kill careers: "It's an obscene
comparison, but there was a time in South Africa when people would put
flaming tires around people's necks if they dissented. In some ways, the
fear is that you will be neck-laced here, you will have a flaming tire of
lack of patriotism put around your neck," Dan Rather said. Without his
makeup, Rather looked drawn, old and defeated in confessing that he too had
given in. "It's that fear that keeps journalists from asking the toughest of
the tough questions and to continue to bore in on the tough questions so
often."
Silence as patriotism? My producers at Newsnight and editors at The Guardian
were not so constrained. So I was assigned to fly home to Ground Zero and
ask the necessary question that could not, in the early days after the
attack, leave the lips of American reporters: How did it happen that the
CIA, FBI, Defense Intelligence Agency and our other extravagantly funded
spooks could neither prevent nor learn in advance about the most deadly
attack on America since Pearl Harbor? The answer was as unpleasant as the
question. If U.S. intelligence agencies did not see the attack coming it was
because they were told not to look. Why? From inside the agencies were
obtained statements and documents indicating that the Bush administration
blocked key investigations into allegations that top Saudi Arabian royals
and some members of the bin Laden family, not just Osama, funded and
supported Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.
The reports I did based on this information won the California State
University School of Journalism's Project Censored Award in 2002. It's not
the kind of prize you want to win -- it's given to crucial stories that were
effectively banned from U.S. airwaves and papers.3 I don't want any
misunderstanding here, so I must emphasize what we did not find: We
uncovered no information, none whatsoever, that George W. Bush had any
advance knowledge of the plan to attack the World Trade Center on 9/11, nor,
heaven forbid, any involvement in the attack.
FBI Document 199I
What we did discover was serious enough. To begin with, from less-than-happy
FBI agents we obtained an interesting document, some 30 pages long, marked
"SECRET." I've reproduced a couple of pages here (figure 2.1). Note the
designation "199I" -- that's FBI-speak for "national security matter."
According to insiders, FBI agents had wanted to check into two members of
the bin Laden family, Abdullah and Omar, but were told to stay away by
superiors -- until September 13, 2001. By then, Abdullah and Omar were long
gone from the United States.
Why no investigation of the brothers bin Laden? The Bush administration's
line is the Binladdins (a more common spelling of the Arabic name) are good
folk. Osama's the Black Sheep, supposedly cut off from his Saudi kin. But
the official line notwithstanding, some FBI agents believed the family had
some gray sheep worth questioning -- especially these two working with the
World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), which the file labels "a suspected
terrorist organization."
Let's be careful here: WAMY may be completely innocent. The FBI targets lots
of innocents, too many in fact, but there were plenty of signs that the WAMY
crew deserved the organization's scrutiny. WAMY, funded from Riyadh by royal
charities, sponsors soccer teams and educational seminars. But in their
Florida summer camp, besides the usual arts and crafts for the kiddies,
youngsters received a pep talk on what were presented as the good Islamic
practices of hostage-taking and suicide killings. (We at BBC obtained a
video tape of one of these rap sessions.) WAMY literature was found in the
apartment of one of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers, praising "heroes"
who killed unarmed Jews at worship.
No matter how vile WAMY's indoctrination chats, they are none of the FBI's
business. Recruitment for terror, however, is. Before 9/11, the governments
of India and the Philippines tied WAMY to groups staging murderous attacks
on civilians. Following our broadcast on BBC, the Dutch secret service
stated that WAMY, "support(ed) violent activity." In 2002, The Wall Street
Journal's Glenn Simpson made public a report by Bosnia's government that a
charity with Abdullah bin Laden on its board had channeled money to Chechen
guerrillas. Two of the 9/11 hijackers used an address on the same street as
WAMY's office in Falls Church, Virginia.
The "Back-Off" Directive and the Islamic Bomb
Despite these tantalizing facts, Abdullah and his operations were A-OK with
the FBI chiefs, if not their working agents. Just a dumb SNAFU? Not
according to a top-level CIA operative who spoke with us on condition of
strictest anonymity. After Bush took office, he said, "there was a major
policy shift" at the National Security Agency. Investigators were ordered to
"back off" from any inquiries into Saudi Arabian financing of terror
networks, especially if they touched on Saudi royals and their retainers.
That put the bin Ladens, a family worth a reported $12 billion and a virtual
arm of the Saudi royal household, off-limits for investigation. Osama was
the exception; he remained a wanted man, but agents could not look too
closely at how he filled his piggy bank. The key rule of any investigation,
"follow the money," was now violated, and investigations -- at least before
9/11 -- began to die.
And there was a lot to investigate -- or in the case of the CIA and FBI
under Bush -- a lot to ignore. Through well-known international arms dealers
(I'm sorry, but in this business, sinners are better sources than saints)
our team was tipped off to a meeting of Saudi billionaires at the Hotel
Royale Monceau in Paris in May 1996 with the financial representative of
Osama bin Laden's network. The Saudis, including a key Saudi prince joined
by Muslim and non-Muslim gun traffickers, met to determine who would pay how
much to Osama. This was not so much an act of support but of protection -- a
payoff to keep the mad bomber away from Saudi Arabia.
The crucial question here is that, if I could learn about this meeting, how
did the CIA miss it? In fact, since the first edition of this book, other
sources have disclosed that the meeting was monitored by French
intelligence. Since U.S. intelligence was thus likely informed, the question
becomes why didn't the government immediately move against the Saudis?
I probed our CIA contact for specifics of investigations that were hampered
by orders to back off of the Saudis. He told us that far bigger fish got
away than WAMY. The Khan Laboratories investigation had been effectively put
on hold.
You may never have heard of Khan Laboratories, but if this planet blows to
pieces this year, it will likely be thanks to Khan Labs' creating nuclear
warheads for Pakistan's military. Because investigators had been tracking
the funding for this so-called "Islamic Bomb" back to Saudi Arabia, under
Bush security restrictions, the inquiry was stymied. (The restrictions were
lifted, the agent told me without a hint of dark humor, on 9/11.)
Thanks
N. Peter Evans
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| User: "Trakar" |
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21 Sep 2003 10:12:24 PM |
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On 21 Sep 2003 19:11:39 -0700,
(peterMelbourneAustralia) wrote:
Bush stopped the enquiry inot Bin Laden when he came into office?
This is news to me. Where did you find this information? Where can I
find this story to learn more about it?
Thanks
N. Peter Evans
I'll see if I can't dig up the specific links, here are several
related articles, however, that you may find interesting.
http://www.ptb.be/scripts/article.phtml?section=A3AAABBSBD&action=allart
http://www.progressiveaustin.org/nab_obl.htm
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1576/913687.html
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/05/04/MN56625.DTL
http://dir.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/09/12/bush/index.html
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/Access%20Denied.htm?cp1=1
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=103&row=0
http://www.infowars.com/w199eye.htm
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| User: "Rich Travsky" |
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21 Sep 2003 12:24:50 AM |
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wrote:
Well, Harry, It would seem that immediately following the attack,
it would be prudent to get potential
terrorists out of the country as quickly as possible.
Well, moron, the smarter thing would have been to arrest them and question
them, NOT get them "out of the country as quickly as possible".
Kinda like immediately following Pearl Harbor, the government rounded up the
Japanese into camps.
Non sequitur.
If we had put them in camps, you leftist bums would be whining about their
"civil rights" and your usual BS, as you do now about the Cuban detainees.
You slimy bums are always political, and as you have before, you would sell
out our country to keep your filthy people in office.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:q4momvseirvdqpm3la55nt7dfsprb036ij@4ax.com...
From The Miami Herald, 9/18/03:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/6799277.htm
WASHINGTON, D.C.
Two Democratic House members from South Florida, Peter Deutsch and
Robert Wexler, are calling for an investigation into how Bush
administration officials allowed about 140 Saudi nationals to leave
the country in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
At a time when all private aviation was grounded, top officials
allowed charter flights to pick up Saudis around the country and then
leave for Saudi Arabia, according to reports in Vanity Fair and The
Tampa Tribune.
The group included some members of the royal family and some relatives
of Osama bin Laden.
The departures occurred as investigators learned that 15 of the 19
hijackers in the Sept. 11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, and some
Saudi officials said they feared a backlash against their citizens.
Deutsch and Wexler requested the General Accounting Office to launch a
formal investigation of the incident.
''It is unconscionable that the Bush administration would bypass
long-standing national security measures by urging the Saudis to
repatriate 140 nationals the day after the largest attack in U.S.
history,'' Wexler said.
________________________________________________________
More dirty Bush wash to air out.
Harry
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| User: "SeeThis Pass" |
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20 Sep 2003 01:44:12 PM |
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:43:14 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
Well, Harry, It would seem that immediately following the attack,
it would be prudent to get potential
terrorists out of the country as quickly as possible.
Kinda like immediately following Pearl Harbor, the government rounded up the
Japanese into camps.
If we had put them in camps, you leftist bums would be whining about their
"civil rights" and your usual BS, as you do now about the Cuban detainees.
You slimy bums are always political, and as you have before, you would sell
out our country to keep your filthy people in office.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:q4momvseirvdqpm3la55nt7dfsprb036ij@4ax.com...
Hear them whir,
Watch them spin.
No deciet , lie or signed confession will ever show the republicans
that they have been Neo Conned.
To excuse themselves from ignorance in supporting this American
disaster known as the Bush administration they must pretend that all
others are " Leftist bums" "whining" " slimy bums" and 'filthy"
This was a simple case of bush protecting his buddies and not America.
AGAIN.
Republicans , so sad.
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