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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
Jun 18, 8:26 AM (ET)
By BAGILA BUKHARBAYEVA
(AP) Russian President Vladimir Putin listens to a question during his
meeting with journalists on the...
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ASTANA, Kazakhstan (AP) - Russia gave the Bush administration
intelligence after the September 11 attacks that suggested Saddam
Hussein's regime in Iraq was preparing attacks in the United States,
President Vladimir Putin said Friday.
Putin said he couldn't comment on how critical the Russians'
information was in the U.S. decision to invade Iraq. He said Russia
didn't have any information that Saddam's regime had actually been
behind any terrorist acts.
"After Sept. 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation
in Iraq, the Russian special services, the intelligence service,
received information that officials from Saddam's regime were
preparing terrorist attacks in the United States and outside it
against the U.S. military and other interests," Putin said.
He said the United States had thanked Russia for the information.
There was no immediate comment from U.S. officials.
"It's one thing to have information that Saddam's regime is preparing
terrorist attacks, (but) we didn't have information that it was
involved in any known terrorist attacks," Putin said in the Kazakh
capital Astana after regional economic and security summits.
Putin said the intelligence didn't cause Russia to waver from its firm
opposition to the war.
"Despite that information about terrorist attacks being prepared by
Saddam's regime, Russia's position on Iraq remains unchanged," Putin
said.
Putin didn't elaborate on any details of the terror plots or mention
whether they were tied to the al-Qaida terror network.
A commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States
reported this week that while there were contacts between al-Qaida and
Iraq, they did not appear to have produced "a collaborative
relationship."
President Bush, however, insisted Thursday that Saddam had "numerous
contacts" with al-Qaida and said Iraqi agents had met with the terror
network's leader, Osama bin Laden, in Sudan.
Saddam "was a threat because he had terrorist connections - not only
al-Qaida connections, but other connections to terrorist
organizations," Bush said.
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"Ah yes, we must mollify angry fanatics who seek our destruction
because otherwise .. they might get mad and seek our destruction."
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Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
According to the Communist Soviet hard-liner who has endorsed the candidacy
of George W. Bush (along with Libya and Pakistan).
LOL!
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18 Jun 2004 10:19:45 PM |
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Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
According to the Communist Soviet hard-liner who has endorsed the
candidacy
of George W. Bush (along with Libya and Pakistan).
LOL!
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Ashamed of Bush
It is interesting to see that Putin
was able to bring down America,
and elevate Russia,
by conning Bush with phony information.
This is an old trick
that shrewd leaders
have used to manipulate egocentric leaders,
throughout history.
At no expense to Russia,
Putin has weakened their strongest rival for world power,
and destroyed the trust and respect that most of the peoples
in the world had for America. Not to mention that he has
severely weakened the world wide market for American products,
and enormously increased the tax burden on Americans.
This tactic would not have worked on
Reagan ( Trust but verify. ),
Truman, ( The buck stops here.),
etc.
--
Tom Potter http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
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18 Jun 2004 12:28:00 PM |
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Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
According to the Communist Soviet hard-liner who has endorsed the
candidacy
of George W. Bush (along with Libya and Pakistan).
LOL!
Interesting. What do you find amusing about it?
Harvey
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| User: "Mr. N" |
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18 Jun 2004 01:25:41 PM |
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"Harvey" <researchermd@netscape.net> wrote in message
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According to the Communist Soviet hard-liner who has endorsed the
candidacy
of George W. Bush (along with Libya and Pakistan).
LOL!
Interesting. What do you find amusing about it?
It's amusing that right-wing jackasss would see Putin's claim as some kind
of vindication for Bush, other than for the blatant transparent lie that it
is.
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18 Jun 2004 01:33:45 PM |
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"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Harvey" <researchermd@netscape.net> wrote in message
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According to the Communist Soviet hard-liner who has endorsed the
candidacy
of George W. Bush (along with Libya and Pakistan).
LOL!
Interesting. What do you find amusing about it?
It's amusing that right-wing jackasss would see Putin's claim as some kind
of vindication for Bush, other than for the blatant transparent lie that
it
is.
Okay... if it's an obvious transparent lie, you must have a familiarity with
Russian intelligence and what it does and does not uncover in it's
operation, correct?
Harve
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18 Jun 2004 05:32:18 PM |
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"Harvey" <researchermd@netscape.net> wrote in message
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It's amusing that right-wing jackasss would see Putin's claim as some
kind
of vindication for Bush, other than for the blatant transparent lie that
it
is.
Okay... if it's an obvious transparent lie, you must have a familiarity
with
Russian intelligence and what it does and does not uncover in it's
operation, correct?
Incorrect. What's transparent are both the claim, and it's timing. If
Russia had given information to the U.S. about Iraq planning attacks - why
hasn't either Russia or American officials (including dozens interviewed by
the 911 commission) ever mentioned it before?
Why hasn't any American official confirmed Putin's claim?
Hm ?
Right-wing jackass. You lying traitorous scumbags are a plague on this
nation.
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Pro-America
Anti-Bush
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18 Jun 2004 07:40:44 PM |
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"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Harvey" <researchermd@netscape.net> wrote in message
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It's amusing that right-wing jackasss would see Putin's claim as some
kind
of vindication for Bush, other than for the blatant transparent lie
that
it
is.
Okay... if it's an obvious transparent lie, you must have a familiarity
with
Russian intelligence and what it does and does not uncover in it's
operation, correct?
Incorrect.
So you have no way of knowing, then do you?
What's transparent are both the claim, and it's timing.
Why do you assume that? What does Putin have to gain in doing it?
If
Russia had given information to the U.S. about Iraq planning attacks - why
hasn't either Russia or American officials (including dozens interviewed
by
the 911 commission) ever mentioned it before?
Governments share information all the time with diplomatic conditions
attached. Forbidding going public with the information and it's source is
very commonly one of them.
Why hasn't any American official confirmed Putin's claim?
Hm ?
Do you always repeat yourself in this way? Do you drool at the same time?
Right-wing jackass. You lying traitorous scumbags are a plague on this
nation.
Same right back at ya, lefty moron. You have *nothing*. You're making all
the assumptions, stupid *****.
Harvey
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18 Jun 2004 07:15:39 PM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:32:18 -0700, "Mr. N"
<seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Harvey" <researchermd@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:bAGAc.25048$0z6.11863@fed1read07...
It's amusing that right-wing jackasss would see Putin's claim as some
kind
of vindication for Bush, other than for the blatant transparent lie that
it
is.
Okay... if it's an obvious transparent lie, you must have a familiarity
with
Russian intelligence and what it does and does not uncover in it's
operation, correct?
Incorrect. What's transparent are both the claim, and it's timing. If
Russia had given information to the U.S. about Iraq planning attacks - why
hasn't either Russia or American officials (including dozens interviewed by
the 911 commission) ever mentioned it before?
Why hasn't any American official confirmed Putin's claim?
Hm ?
Right-wing jackass. You lying traitorous scumbags are a plague on this
nation.
Once more Bush has beaten you. His poll numbers are up, Kerry's are
down. You're still arguing against the removal of the murderous
dictator, Hussein.
This is just the start Mr. N.
Bush will be re-elected.
Count on it.
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| User: "Julian D." |
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18 Jun 2004 07:20:26 PM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:32:18 -0700, "Mr. N"
<seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Harvey" <researchermd@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:bAGAc.25048$0z6.11863@fed1read07...
It's amusing that right-wing jackasss would see Putin's claim as some
kind
of vindication for Bush, other than for the blatant transparent lie that
it
is.
Okay... if it's an obvious transparent lie, you must have a familiarity
with
Russian intelligence and what it does and does not uncover in it's
operation, correct?
Incorrect. What's transparent are both the claim, and it's timing. If
Russia had given information to the U.S. about Iraq planning attacks - why
hasn't either Russia or American officials (including dozens interviewed by
the 911 commission) ever mentioned it before?
Why hasn't any American official confirmed Putin's claim?
Hm ?
Right-wing jackass. You lying traitorous scumbags are a plague on this
nation.
Once more Bush has beaten you. His poll numbers are up, Kerry's are
down. You're still arguing against the removal of the murderous
dictator, Hussein.
This is just the start Mr. N.
Bush will be re-elected.
Count on it.
Oh yeah...
Commission confirms links
By Stephen J. Hadley
A 9/11 commission staff report is being cited to argue that the
administration was wrong about there being suspicious ties and
contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda. In fact, just the opposite is
true. The staff report documents such links.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-06-17-hadley_x.htm
So a big 'FU' to you anti-America liberals.
lol
JD
USA Today Editorial/Opinion
by Stephen Hadley, deputy national security adviser
http://snipurl.com/76hp
A 9/11 commission staff report is being cited to argue that the
administration was wrong about there being suspicious ties and
contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda. In fact, just the opposite
is true. The staff report documents such links.
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18 Jun 2004 07:21:19 PM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:20:26 -0400, Julian D. <jules@ersatz.com>
wrote:
Incorrect. What's transparent are both the claim, and it's timing. If
Russia had given information to the U.S. about Iraq planning attacks - why
hasn't either Russia or American officials (including dozens interviewed by
the 911 commission) ever mentioned it before?
Why hasn't any American official confirmed Putin's claim?
Hm
Maybe because it was classified material that needed to be released?
Just because you are an American official, with the exception of the
President of the United States, classified material stays classified
and to spill it invites career destruction and possibly 20 years in
the federal pen.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm?
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18 Jun 2004 07:52:26 PM |
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Subject: Re: Putin: 'Saddam was going to attack America' - Russia Gave Bush
Iraq Intelligence
From: .
Date: 6/18/2004 8:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <8e64085c0863ae1012113ea7f272dc38@news.meganetnews.com>
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:20:26 -0400, Julian D. <jules@ersatz.com>
wrote:
Incorrect. What's transparent are both the claim, and it's timing. If
Russia had given information to the U.S. about Iraq planning attacks - why
hasn't either Russia or American officials (including dozens interviewed by
the 911 commission) ever mentioned it before?
Why hasn't any American official confirmed Putin's claim?
Hm
Maybe because it was classified material that needed to be released?
Just because you are an American official, with the exception of the
President of the United States, classified material stays classified
and to spill it invites career destruction and possibly 20 years in
the federal pen.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm?
If they had anything they would have released it. What you have is the
president and vice presdient with egg on their faces. They rushed to war and
they caused a horrible mess.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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18 Jun 2004 05:48:42 PM |
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"Harvey" <researchermd@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<bAGAc.25048$0z6.11863@fed1read07>...
"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Harvey" <researchermd@netscape.net> wrote in message
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According to the Communist Soviet hard-liner who has endorsed the
candidacy
of George W. Bush (along with Libya and Pakistan).
LOL!
Interesting. What do you find amusing about it?
It's amusing that right-wing jackasss would see Putin's claim as some kind
of vindication for Bush, other than for the blatant transparent lie that
it
is.
Okay... if it's an obvious transparent lie, you must have a familiarity with
Russian intelligence and what it does and does not uncover in it's
operation, correct?
Harve
Putin didn't see any reason for attacking Iraq in 2002:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/09/06/blair.iraq/
The Russian news agency RIA, quoting a Kremlin statement, said Putin
told the British leader he had "deep doubts that there are grounds for
the use of force in connection with Iraq," Reuters news agency
reported.
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18 Jun 2004 10:16:29 AM |
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It's ludicrous to thing that Iraq would have 'attacked' the US.
First, the US would eventually trace the attack back, and retaliate -
something that Sadam (or any state for that matter) would surely not
have wanted.
Second, what on earth were they going to attack us with? They had no WMD
programs. I suppose they could have snuck a Russian T38 tank into NJ.
This sort of dis-information/nonesense is nothing more than the Bush
administration trying to focus US eyes away from his failures in
Afghanistan.
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18 Jun 2004 10:20:53 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:16:29 -0400, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:
This sort of dis-information/nonesense is nothing more than the Bush
administration trying to focus US eyes away from his failures in
Afghanistan.
So, Putin is a lackey for George Bush? ROFL!!!!
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
Jun 18, 8:26 AM (ET)
By BAGILA BUKHARBAYEVA
(AP) Russian President Vladimir Putin listens to a question during his
meeting with journalists on the...
http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/ap/UZBEKISTAN_SECURITY_SUMMIT_PUTIN.sff_XAZ112_20040617123918.jpg
ASTANA, Kazakhstan (AP) - Russia gave the Bush administration
intelligence after the September 11 attacks that suggested Saddam
Hussein's regime in Iraq was preparing attacks in the United States,
President Vladimir Putin said Friday.
Putin said he couldn't comment on how critical the Russians'
information was in the U.S. decision to invade Iraq. He said Russia
didn't have any information that Saddam's regime had actually been
behind any terrorist acts.
"After Sept. 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation
in Iraq, the Russian special services, the intelligence service,
received information that officials from Saddam's regime were
preparing terrorist attacks in the United States and outside it
against the U.S. military and other interests," Putin said.
He said the United States had thanked Russia for the information.
There was no immediate comment from U.S. officials.
"It's one thing to have information that Saddam's regime is preparing
terrorist attacks, (but) we didn't have information that it was
involved in any known terrorist attacks," Putin said in the Kazakh
capital Astana after regional economic and security summits.
Putin said the intelligence didn't cause Russia to waver from its firm
opposition to the war.
"Despite that information about terrorist attacks being prepared by
Saddam's regime, Russia's position on Iraq remains unchanged," Putin
said.
Putin didn't elaborate on any details of the terror plots or mention
whether they were tied to the al-Qaida terror network.
A commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States
reported this week that while there were contacts between al-Qaida and
Iraq, they did not appear to have produced "a collaborative
relationship."
President Bush, however, insisted Thursday that Saddam had "numerous
contacts" with al-Qaida and said Iraqi agents had met with the terror
network's leader, Osama bin Laden, in Sudan.
Saddam "was a threat because he had terrorist connections - not only
al-Qaida connections, but other connections to terrorist
organizations," Bush said.
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"Ah yes, we must mollify angry fanatics who seek our destruction
because otherwise .. they might get mad and seek our destruction."
- Ann Coulter 9/26/2002
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21 Jun 2004 12:35:09 AM |
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"ArKLyte_" <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:16:29 -0400, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:
This sort of dis-information/nonesense is nothing more than the Bush
administration trying to focus US eyes away from his failures in
Afghanistan.
So, Putin is a lackey for George Bush? ROFL!!!!
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
Jun 18, 8:26 AM (ET)
By BAGILA BUKHARBAYEVA
(AP) Russian President Vladimir Putin listens to a question during his
meeting with journalists on the...
http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/ap/UZBEKISTAN_SECURITY_SUMMIT_PUTIN.sff_XAZ112
_20040617123918.jpg
ASTANA, Kazakhstan (AP) - Russia gave the Bush administration
intelligence after the September 11 attacks that suggested Saddam
Hussein's regime in Iraq was preparing attacks in the United States,
President Vladimir Putin said Friday.
It is interesting to see that Putin
was quickly and cheaply
able to do what Stalin and Mao could not do.
That is,
bring down America,
and elevate Russia and China.
He did using the age old technique
of conning an egocentric adversary,
with phony information.
No doubt,
as a former Russian "CIA" agent,
Putin had a good psychological profile of Bush,
and pretty much knew how he would react.
Cool, rational, mature, non-egocentric leaders
like Reagan and Truman,
could never have been conned by this scheme.
Before Bush,
America was respected, trusted, admired and loved
by almost all of the peoples on the Earth,
including the Russian, Arab and Chinese masses.
By letting himself be conned by Putin,
Bush managed in two years
to ***** away all the trust and respect that
America had build up over many years.
Now world power, trust, and trust
are shifting to Russia and China,
and the money, affluence and freedom are following.
Who could have thunk it?
That Putin is a very smart cookie!
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18 Jun 2004 10:19:30 PM |
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"ArKLyte_" <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:16:29 -0400, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:
This sort of dis-information/nonesense is nothing more than the Bush
administration trying to focus US eyes away from his failures in
Afghanistan.
So, Putin is a lackey for George Bush? ROFL!!!!
It is interesting to see that Putin
was able to bring down America,
and elevate Russia,
by conning Bush with phony information.
This is an old trick
that shrewd leaders
have used to manipulate egocentric leaders,
throughout history.
At no expense to Russia,
Putin has weakened their strongest rival for world power,
and destroyed the trust and respect that most of the peoples
in the world had for America. Not to mention that he has
severely weakened the world wide market for American products,
and enormously increased the tax burden on Americans.
This tactic would not have worked on
Reagan ( Trust but verify. ),
Truman, ( The buck stops here.),
etc.
--
Tom Potter http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
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| User: "Mr. N" |
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18 Jun 2004 10:36:18 AM |
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"ArKLyte_" <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote in message
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So, Putin is a lackey for George Bush? ROFL!!!!
Not a lackey. A collaborator.
Putin has endorsed the candidacy of George W. Bush.
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Proud of America
Ashamed of Bush
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| User: "Sleepy Pwn3r" |
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18 Jun 2004 02:51:08 PM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:36:18 -0700, "Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com>
blurted:
"ArKLyte_" <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote in message
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So, Putin is a lackey for George Bush? ROFL!!!!
Not a lackey. A collaborator.
Putin was against the Iraq war from the start. You are ridiculous.
Putin has endorsed the candidacy of George W. Bush.
It must have been those Texas ranch trips that did the trick if true.
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18 Jun 2004 07:44:22 PM |
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PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message news:<10d61qe6f2oub3f@corp.supernews.com>...
It's ludicrous to thing that Iraq would have 'attacked' the US.
First, the US would eventually trace the attack back, and retaliate -
something that Sadam (or any state for that matter) would surely not
have wanted.
Second, what on earth were they going to attack us with? They had no WMD
programs. I suppose they could have snuck a Russian T38 tank into NJ.
This sort of dis-information/nonesense is nothing more than the Bush
administration trying to focus US eyes away from his failures in
Afghanistan.
Since when was Putin a shil for the Bush administration?
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18 Jun 2004 09:10:33 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:02:47 GMT, ArKLyte_ <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
More *****.
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| User: "deathloop" |
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| Title: Re: Putin: 'Saddam was going to attack America' - Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence |
18 Jun 2004 01:00:34 PM |
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Arnold Dulcimer <ArnoldDulcimer@network23.net> wrote in message news:<put5d0le95lmrd5bs33gud8ptrlmdihvrp@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:02:47 GMT, ArKLyte_ <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
More *****.
that's a stunning analysis of the veracity of this news story. really, thanks.
-Michael John-
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| User: "Salad" |
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| Title: Re: Putin: 'Saddam was going to attack America' - Russia Gave BushIraq Intelligence |
18 Jun 2004 10:01:45 AM |
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Arnold Dulcimer wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:02:47 GMT, ArKLyte_ <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
More *****.
Well, bush can now point fingers at Russia. One always needs a
scapegoat when mistakes are made.
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| User: "Cavello" |
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| Title: Re: Putin: 'Saddam was going to attack America' - Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence |
18 Jun 2004 07:42:44 PM |
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Salad <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message news:<ttDAc.9303$Wr.9150@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
Arnold Dulcimer wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:02:47 GMT, ArKLyte_ <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
More *****.
Well, bush can now point fingers at Russia. One always needs a
scapegoat when mistakes are made.
You mean, the idea that Iraq didn't pose a threat has been refuted by,
of all people, the Russians. Poor boy.
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| User: "Salad" |
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| Title: Re: Putin: 'Saddam was going to attack America' - Russia Gave BushIraq Intelligence |
18 Jun 2004 07:47:48 PM |
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Cavello wrote:
Salad <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message news:<ttDAc.9303$Wr.9150@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
Arnold Dulcimer wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:02:47 GMT, ArKLyte_ <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
More *****.
Well, bush can now point fingers at Russia. One always needs a
scapegoat when mistakes are made.
You mean, the idea that Iraq didn't pose a threat has been refuted by,
of all people, the Russians. Poor boy.
Well, from my POV, it appears the Russians gave bush some rotten intel
and the neocon crowd pissed their pants in excitement and started a war.
Bunch of dumb fucks. Chalabi, the Russions, who else is laughing at
bush and his cowboy demeanor.
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| User: "Cavello" |
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| Title: Re: Putin: 'Saddam was going to attack America' - Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence |
19 Jun 2004 06:05:54 AM |
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Salad <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message news:<U2MAc.9654$Wr.4968@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
Cavello wrote:
Salad <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message news:<ttDAc.9303$Wr.9150@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
Arnold Dulcimer wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:02:47 GMT, ArKLyte_ <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
More *****.
Well, bush can now point fingers at Russia. One always needs a
scapegoat when mistakes are made.
You mean, the idea that Iraq didn't pose a threat has been refuted by,
of all people, the Russians. Poor boy.
Well, from my POV, it appears the Russians gave bush some rotten intel
and the neocon crowd pissed their pants in excitement and started a war.
It was 'rotten' intel? And you, some usenet jockey, knows this for a
fact? Do tell, ***** Tracey.
Bunch of dumb fucks. Chalabi, the Russions, who else is laughing at
bush and his cowboy demeanor.
A lot of other people who don't count.
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| User: "Salad" |
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| Title: Re: Putin: 'Saddam was going to attack America' - Russia Gave BushIraq Intelligence |
19 Jun 2004 11:45:58 AM |
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Cavello wrote:
Salad <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message news:<U2MAc.9654$Wr.4968@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
Cavello wrote:
Salad <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message news:<ttDAc.9303$Wr.9150@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
Arnold Dulcimer wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:02:47 GMT, ArKLyte_ <ArkLyte_@Now.Net> wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
More *****.
Well, bush can now point fingers at Russia. One always needs a
scapegoat when mistakes are made.
You mean, the idea that Iraq didn't pose a threat has been refuted by,
of all people, the Russians. Poor boy.
Well, from my POV, it appears the Russians gave bush some rotten intel
and the neocon crowd pissed their pants in excitement and started a war.
It was 'rotten' intel? And you, some usenet jockey, knows this for a
fact? Do tell, ***** Tracey.
Well, we happen to be burning 200 billion (this figure is too low to be
credible) over in Iraq and bringing home 1000 dead soldiers, a few
beheaded ex-patriots, and 22,000+ med-evac'd amputeed soldiers based on
the urgings of a neocon lie.
Bunch of dumb fucks. Chalabi, the Russions, who else is laughing at
bush and his cowboy demeanor.
A lot of other people who don't count.
I guess you mustn't be upset bush gave 300+ million to Chalabi, an
Iranian agent. What does it take to upset you?
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| User: "ArKLyte_" |
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| Title: Re: Putin: 'Saddam was going to attack America' - Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence |
19 Jun 2004 12:06:07 PM |
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:45:58 GMT, Salad <oil@vinegar.com> wrote:
It was 'rotten' intel? And you, some usenet jockey, knows this for a
fact? Do tell, ***** Tracey.
Well, we happen to be burning 200 billion (this figure is too low to be
credible) over in Iraq and bringing home 1000 dead soldiers, a few
beheaded ex-patriots, and 22,000+ med-evac'd amputeed soldiers based on
the urgings of a neocon lie.
So you think Dubya has coerced former KGB Czar Putin to bail him out?
Shrub must be a GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!
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'Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq was preparing attacks in the
United States..' - President Vladimir Putin, 6/18/2004
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
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| User: "Salad" |
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| Title: Re: Putin: 'Saddam was going to attack America' - Russia Gave BushIraq Intelligence |
19 Jun 2004 03:04:52 PM |
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ArKLyte_ wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:45:58 GMT, Salad <oil@vinegar.com> wrote:
It was 'rotten' intel? And you, some usenet jockey, knows this for a
fact? Do tell, ***** Tracey.
Well, we happen to be burning 200 billion (this figure is too low to be
credible) over in Iraq and bringing home 1000 dead soldiers, a few
beheaded ex-patriots, and 22,000+ med-evac'd amputeed soldiers based on
the urgings of a neocon lie.
So you think Dubya has coerced former KGB Czar Putin to bail him out?
Shrub must be a GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!
No, I think Putin is playing bush like a virtuoso violinist.
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| User: "Harvey" |
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| Title: Re: Putin: 'Saddam was going to attack America' - Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence |
19 Jun 2004 03:38:25 PM |
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"Salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
news:E%0Bc.7126$w07.6697@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
ArKLyte_ wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:45:58 GMT, Salad <oil@vinegar.com> wrote:
It was 'rotten' intel? And you, some usenet jockey, knows this for a
fact? Do tell, ***** Tracey.
Well, we happen to be burning 200 billion (this figure is too low to be
credible) over in Iraq and bringing home 1000 dead soldiers, a few
beheaded ex-patriots, and 22,000+ med-evac'd amputeed soldiers based on
the urgings of a neocon lie.
So you think Dubya has coerced former KGB Czar Putin to bail him out?
Shrub must be a GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!
No, I think Putin is playing bush like a virtuoso violinist.
Interesting. To what end? What does Putin get out of it?
Harvey
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| User: "Simon Templar" |
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| Title: Re: Putin: 'Saddam was going to attack America' - Russia Gave Bush IraqIntelligence |
19 Jun 2004 04:29:52 PM |
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ArKLyte_ wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:45:58 GMT, Salad <oil@vinegar.com> wrote:
It was 'rotten' intel? And you, some usenet jockey, knows this for a
fact? Do tell, ***** Tracey.
Well, we happen to be burning 200 billion (this figure is too low to be
credible) over in Iraq and bringing home 1000 dead soldiers, a few
beheaded ex-patriots, and 22,000+ med-evac'd amputeed soldiers based on
the urgings of a neocon lie.
So you think Dubya has coerced former KGB Czar Putin to bail him out?
Shrub must be a GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!
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'Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq was preparing attacks in the
United States..' - President Vladimir Putin, 6/18/2004
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839DV0O1.html
No , But Putin is. He knows another four years of Bush and the USA will be
in the same state as the soviet union was after the wall came down.
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