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Politics > Politics-USA |
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"MysticRythyms" |
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13 May 2004 12:22:36 AM |
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Question for Everybody |
What I'd like to know is why the big media bombardment concerning this guy
getting beheaded in Iraq? Don't get me wrong, I think it's sick and wrong
just like everyone else. But it seems to me that the USA has bombed and
slaughtered over 10,000 Iraqi's and nobody has said much about it. The USA
has created scenes like this is in FALLUJAH
(http://blog.newstandardnews.net/iraqdispatches/archives/000343.html) where
several hundred Iraqi's were MASSACRED, but nobody has much to say about it.
And then one white American gets killed and the media is all over it. They
refer to it as "murder" (which I totally agree, it was MURDER) but they
refer to the massacre of Iraqi's by the USA as "casualities." They report
the US Soldiers getting killed, but they downplay the deaths of the Iraqi
civilians and soldiers as if they aren't human beings too. What's up with
that? Please tell me, what's the DIFFERENCE between this guy getting killed
(the recent beheading incident) and the other 10,000 people getting killed?
Im my mind, it's all the SAME. It's all MURDER. So why the special
attention to this one particular case? Sure it was gruesome and horrible.
But so is the rest of the war. It's a war for Christ's sakes. What do you
expect? Why are people so SHOCKED by the pictures of the abuse of
prisoners? It's almost as if they had their heads buried so far up their
butts that they didn't even know that that's what happens in wars or
something. This is a war!! What do people expect? People think that the
USA is somehow "morally superior" and has "higher standards" than the rest
of the world, but in reality, the USA is the WORLD's CHAMPION at TERRORIZING
other countries. So why are people so surprised to hear about the abuse?
And why so surprised to hear that some Arabs got pissed and chopped a guys
head off? It's a war!! And the USA was the AGGRESSOR!! Iraq didn't attack
us! The USA just said "OK let's go screw with Iraq now" in the same fashion
that Hitler said "OK Let's go screw with Poland now."
Seems to me that people are just ignorant. They come home, turn on the
TV and watch Gilligan's Island or watch some football, and then they go to
bed, get up the next day and do it all over again. When things like 911
happen they're somehow baffled and surprised about it. It was no shock to
me. I saw the World's # 1 TERRORIST Nation get a taste of their own
medicine. That's what I saw. Once again, before you get angry with me,
don't get me wrong, I thought it was just as terrible as everyone else. I
cried that day. But I wasn't SHOCKED by it. I'd seen what the USA had
dished out onto other countries, and I knew it was only a matter of time
before they'd get theirs. It's sad, it really is, but anyone who isn't
using the American flag as a 100% BLINDFOLD can see the truth in it. The
USA can't go around being the WORLD's BULLY and expect everyone to go along
with it. And most Americans just don't seem to understand that for some odd
reason. This is baffling to me. TOTALLY BAFFLING.
--
"Prime Mover" <mr_prime_mover@[nospam]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:E4goc.71$BT.643@news20.bellglobal.com...
You're all a bunch of DIPFUCKS!!!!
ALL OF YOU STUPID AMERICAN BUSH LOVING MORONS! BUSH IS A FACIST NAZI OIL
BARON PIGDOG!
.
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| User: "The Passion Against the War" |
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| Title: Re: Question for Everybody |
13 May 2004 02:11:00 AM |
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Incongruence, the obvious, free will, and it's a story about an American in
Iraq.
MysticRythyms wrote:
What I'd like to know is why the big media bombardment concerning this guy
getting beheaded in Iraq? Don't get me wrong, I think it's sick and wrong
just like everyone else. But it seems to me that the USA has bombed and
slaughtered over 10,000 Iraqi's and nobody has said much about it. The USA
has created scenes like this is in FALLUJAH
(http://blog.newstandardnews.net/iraqdispatches/archives/000343.html) where
several hundred Iraqi's were MASSACRED, but nobody has much to say about it.
And then one white American gets killed and the media is all over it. They
refer to it as "murder" (which I totally agree, it was MURDER) but they
refer to the massacre of Iraqi's by the USA as "casualities." They report
the US Soldiers getting killed, but they downplay the deaths of the Iraqi
civilians and soldiers as if they aren't human beings too. What's up with
that? Please tell me, what's the DIFFERENCE between this guy getting killed
(the recent beheading incident) and the other 10,000 people getting killed?
Im my mind, it's all the SAME. It's all MURDER. So why the special
attention to this one particular case? Sure it was gruesome and horrible.
But so is the rest of the war. It's a war for Christ's sakes. What do you
expect? Why are people so SHOCKED by the pictures of the abuse of
prisoners? It's almost as if they had their heads buried so far up their
butts that they didn't even know that that's what happens in wars or
something. This is a war!! What do people expect? People think that the
USA is somehow "morally superior" and has "higher standards" than the rest
of the world, but in reality, the USA is the WORLD's CHAMPION at TERRORIZING
other countries. So why are people so surprised to hear about the abuse?
And why so surprised to hear that some Arabs got pissed and chopped a guys
head off? It's a war!! And the USA was the AGGRESSOR!! Iraq didn't attack
us! The USA just said "OK let's go screw with Iraq now" in the same fashion
that Hitler said "OK Let's go screw with Poland now."
Seems to me that people are just ignorant. They come home, turn on the
TV and watch Gilligan's Island or watch some football, and then they go to
bed, get up the next day and do it all over again. When things like 911
happen they're somehow baffled and surprised about it. It was no shock to
me. I saw the World's # 1 TERRORIST Nation get a taste of their own
medicine. That's what I saw. Once again, before you get angry with me,
don't get me wrong, I thought it was just as terrible as everyone else. I
cried that day. But I wasn't SHOCKED by it. I'd seen what the USA had
dished out onto other countries, and I knew it was only a matter of time
before they'd get theirs. It's sad, it really is, but anyone who isn't
using the American flag as a 100% BLINDFOLD can see the truth in it. The
USA can't go around being the WORLD's BULLY and expect everyone to go along
with it. And most Americans just don't seem to understand that for some odd
reason. This is baffling to me. TOTALLY BAFFLING.
--
"Prime Mover" <mr_prime_mover@[nospam]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:E4goc.71$BT.643@news20.bellglobal.com...
You're all a bunch of DIPFUCKS!!!!
ALL OF YOU STUPID AMERICAN BUSH LOVING MORONS! BUSH IS A FACIST NAZI OIL
BARON PIGDOG!
.
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| User: "bobo4u" |
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| Title: Re: Question for Everybody |
13 May 2004 12:53:50 AM |
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Me thinks someone just woke up to the truth about his country. He's
escaped from the Matrix.
Get him some antidepressants, quick!
In article <c88ca6207c8e7139c0cd594b60b96949@news.teranews.com>,
"MysticRythyms" <HeilBush@fascistpig.gov> wrote:
What I'd like to know is why the big media bombardment concerning this guy
getting beheaded in Iraq? Don't get me wrong, I think it's sick and wrong
just like everyone else. But it seems to me that the USA has bombed and
slaughtered over 10,000 Iraqi's and nobody has said much about it. The USA
has created scenes like this is in FALLUJAH
(http://blog.newstandardnews.net/iraqdispatches/archives/000343.html) where
several hundred Iraqi's were MASSACRED, but nobody has much to say about it.
And then one white American gets killed and the media is all over it. They
refer to it as "murder" (which I totally agree, it was MURDER) but they
refer to the massacre of Iraqi's by the USA as "casualities." They report
the US Soldiers getting killed, but they downplay the deaths of the Iraqi
civilians and soldiers as if they aren't human beings too. What's up with
that? Please tell me, what's the DIFFERENCE between this guy getting killed
(the recent beheading incident) and the other 10,000 people getting killed?
Im my mind, it's all the SAME. It's all MURDER. So why the special
attention to this one particular case? Sure it was gruesome and horrible.
But so is the rest of the war. It's a war for Christ's sakes. What do you
expect? Why are people so SHOCKED by the pictures of the abuse of
prisoners? It's almost as if they had their heads buried so far up their
butts that they didn't even know that that's what happens in wars or
something. This is a war!! What do people expect? People think that the
USA is somehow "morally superior" and has "higher standards" than the rest
of the world, but in reality, the USA is the WORLD's CHAMPION at TERRORIZING
other countries. So why are people so surprised to hear about the abuse?
And why so surprised to hear that some Arabs got pissed and chopped a guys
head off? It's a war!! And the USA was the AGGRESSOR!! Iraq didn't attack
us! The USA just said "OK let's go screw with Iraq now" in the same fashion
that Hitler said "OK Let's go screw with Poland now."
Seems to me that people are just ignorant. They come home, turn on the
TV and watch Gilligan's Island or watch some football, and then they go to
bed, get up the next day and do it all over again. When things like 911
happen they're somehow baffled and surprised about it. It was no shock to
me. I saw the World's # 1 TERRORIST Nation get a taste of their own
medicine. That's what I saw. Once again, before you get angry with me,
don't get me wrong, I thought it was just as terrible as everyone else. I
cried that day. But I wasn't SHOCKED by it. I'd seen what the USA had
dished out onto other countries, and I knew it was only a matter of time
before they'd get theirs. It's sad, it really is, but anyone who isn't
using the American flag as a 100% BLINDFOLD can see the truth in it. The
USA can't go around being the WORLD's BULLY and expect everyone to go along
with it. And most Americans just don't seem to understand that for some odd
reason. This is baffling to me. TOTALLY BAFFLING.
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| User: "MysticRythyms" |
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| Title: Re: Question for Everybody |
13 May 2004 12:59:48 AM |
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"bobo4u" <evil@whitehouse.org> wrote in message
news:evil-40FABB.22535012052004@news.uswest.net...
Me thinks someone just woke up to the truth about his country. He's
escaped from the Matrix.
Get him some antidepressants, quick!
LMAO!! Thanks but I've known this for many years. But I still find it
baffling that people are so ignorant to the obvious. What the hell's wrong
with people?
--
"Prime Mover" <mr_prime_mover@[nospam]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:E4goc.71$BT.643@news20.bellglobal.com...
You're all a bunch of DIPFUCKS!!!!
ALL OF YOU STUPID AMERICAN BUSH LOVING MORONS! BUSH IS A FACIST NAZI OIL
BARON PIGDOG!
.
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| User: "EagleEye" |
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| Title: Re: Question for Everybody |
13 May 2004 01:31:45 AM |
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"MysticRythyms" <HeilBush@fascistpig.gov> wrote in message
news:db718c10279321b27d94b03629f6979d@news.teranews.com...
"bobo4u" <evil@whitehouse.org> wrote in message
news:evil-40FABB.22535012052004@news.uswest.net...
Me thinks someone just woke up to the truth about his country. He's
escaped from the Matrix.
Get him some antidepressants, quick!
LMAO!! Thanks but I've known this for many years. But I still find it
baffling that people are so ignorant to the obvious. What the hell's
wrong
with people?
The Big Lie
In this they proceeded on the sound principle that the magnitude of a lie
always contains a certain factor of credibility, since the great masses of
the people in the very bottom of their hearts tend to be corrupted rather
than consciously and purposely evil, and that, therefore, in view of the
primitive simplicity of their minds they more easily fall a victim to a big
lie than to a little one, since they themselves lie in little things, but
would be ashamed of lies that were too big. Such a falsehood will never
enter their heads and they will not be able to believe in the possibility of
such monstrous effrontery and infamous misrepresentation in others; yes,
even when enlightened on the subject, they will long doubt and waver, and
continue to accept at least one of these causes as true. Therefore,
something of even the most insolent lie will always remain and stick - a
fact which all the great lie-virtuosi and lying-clubs in this world know
only too well and also make the most treacherous use of.
~ Adolf Hitler, "Main Kampf"
What's wrong with them is that they have been made to fall victim, and to be
corrupted in the depths of their heart, by swallowing the big lie, fed to
them with a nationalistic spoon with the American flag on it, the smooth
pudding of their own misguided patriotism. "The proof is in the pudding."
"Nationalism is our form of incest, is our idolatry, is our insanity.
"Patriotism" is its cult. It should hardly be necessary to say, that by
"patriotism" I mean that attitude which puts the own nation above humanity,
above the principles of truth and justice; not the loving interest in one's
own nation, which is the concern with the nation's spiritual as much as with
its material welfare -- never with its power over other nations. Just as
love for one individual which excludes the love for others is not love, love
for one's country which is not part of one's love for humanity is not love,
but idolatrous worship."
~ Erich Fromm
In other words, they have been misled and made to worship at the wrong
alter.
We all believe in something, and we all worship something or other.
The question is - what master do we really serve? We cannot be a slave to
God and money both.
But hey, now that the lie is being exposed, a new type of oversight can
begin to occur, and it IS happening, sometimes slowly, sometimes quickly,
but it WILL happen, if we work for it.
What needs to occur is a dramatic SHIFT in power, from temporal, to
spiritual power, which is unleashed when people begin to come and to worship
at the right temple of God, which is everywhere that we worship what is
right and just, in all truth and in spirit.
Then if you start continually striking on and re-striking on the right
balance of power that is favourable to our mutual growth - look out! because
you will then have become a lightening rod of progressive historical change,
and therein lies the secret of true and wholly authentic power - a power
which comes to serve, and not to be served.
In other words, you reach a stage where, with faith the size of a mustard
seed, you can say to the mountain (political structuring dynamic) MOVE, and
it WILL move.
Wherever two or more are gather together in the name and in the spirit of
all righteousness, there is the power in their midst, and whatever they
agree upon wholeheartedly, and speak out loud, is binding on reality, and
what is bound on earth is bound in heaven also (throughout all the spheres
of universal historical causation). We can then say in all authority, to the
bad fruitless tree of bad historical causation, UPROOT YOURSELF, and be cast
into the abyss of history, and it will be done as we say.
In fact, anything we ask for, in the name of Christ, or for righteousness
sake, will be done, "on earth as it is in heaven".
It is what might be called "scientific prayer".
So if you want to change the world, then gather around yourself a mastermind
alliance, of two or more people working together in a spirit of harmony, to
realize a definite purpose, or a wholly just and noble historical pursuit,
make a plan, and then take action, and you'll be tapping into the most
powerful force in the Universe, which is God's Grace, or simply love in
action, whereby everone is pulling on the great net of life together, to
bring in a magnificent catch.
You do not have to be a "Christian" per say, to embrace Christianity.
However, paradoxically, neither can you do anything apart from the central
spirit of the universe, as the central turning point of authentic civilized
progress.
But first, before we change the world, we first must change, since real and
lasting change, comes from within.
--
"Prime Mover" <mr_prime_mover@[nospam]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:E4goc.71$BT.643@news20.bellglobal.com...
You're all a bunch of DIPFUCKS!!!!
ALL OF YOU STUPID AMERICAN BUSH LOVING MORONS! BUSH IS A FACIST NAZI OIL
BARON PIGDOG!
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| User: "bobo4u" |
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13 May 2004 01:37:46 AM |
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An absence of the critical thinking gene? Who knows. Fascism is a
powerful force. Especially with the media in full compliance.
Find some alternative news sources. Join an online community like the
smirkingchimp.com
Stay away from mainstream media. It's the reason that your neighbors are
now zombies.
Good luck. And welcome to Zion.
--bobo
In article <db718c10279321b27d94b03629f6979d@news.teranews.com>,
"MysticRythyms" <HeilBush@fascistpig.gov> wrote:
"bobo4u" <evil@whitehouse.org> wrote in message
news:evil-40FABB.22535012052004@news.uswest.net...
Me thinks someone just woke up to the truth about his country. He's
escaped from the Matrix.
Get him some antidepressants, quick!
LMAO!! Thanks but I've known this for many years. But I still find it
baffling that people are so ignorant to the obvious. What the hell's wrong
with people?
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| User: "EagleEye" |
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| Title: Re: Question for Everybody |
13 May 2004 01:13:12 AM |
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"bobo4u" <evil@whitehouse.org> wrote in message
news:evil-40FABB.22535012052004@news.uswest.net...
Me thinks someone just woke up to the truth about his country. He's
escaped from the Matrix.
Get him some antidepressants, quick!
And then what should he do? Write a book? Campaign for Kerry? Have a baby?
Plant a tree?
What is the ACTION of the enlightened person, that's what I'd like to know.
Where does the buck really begin, and where does it really stop?
What can we REALLY do to change things?
I say THINK, THINK, THINK, and then use whatever resource you have at your
disposal, to wake up your fellow man, unshakle him from his delusion
projected onto the cave wall, and then turn him, to face the light.
Praise God for the Internet!
I think it is starting to really change things in a big way, that the ruling
elite class didn't expect or foresee.
I think a good analogy would be to think of a new type of inner circle of
the collective consciousness being like an ovum, and we are the sperm of
information trying to penetrate that egg, in order to comsumate something
novel, something radical, tranformative and transcendant.
I like to think of the enlightened self as an omega point of global
transformation, where the meaning of your communication is the response you
get as feedback, and sometimes, when you really ring the bell, boy is there
feedback!
Then it is time to really keep your wits about you, and to stay humble, and
to be careful how you listen, because then even what you think you may have,
can be taken away in a hurry.
It's hard thing to do effectively, in as much as it requires throwing your
pearls before swine, and leaving yourself open to being trampled under foot.
In the immortal words of Kermit the Frog, "it isn't easy being green".
In article <c88ca6207c8e7139c0cd594b60b96949@news.teranews.com>,
"MysticRythyms" <HeilBush@fascistpig.gov> wrote:
What I'd like to know is why the big media bombardment concerning this
guy
getting beheaded in Iraq? Don't get me wrong, I think it's sick and
wrong
just like everyone else. But it seems to me that the USA has bombed and
slaughtered over 10,000 Iraqi's and nobody has said much about it. The
USA
has created scenes like this is in FALLUJAH
(http://blog.newstandardnews.net/iraqdispatches/archives/000343.html)
where
several hundred Iraqi's were MASSACRED, but nobody has much to say about
it.
And then one white American gets killed and the media is all over it.
They
refer to it as "murder" (which I totally agree, it was MURDER) but they
refer to the massacre of Iraqi's by the USA as "casualities." They
report
the US Soldiers getting killed, but they downplay the deaths of the
Iraqi
civilians and soldiers as if they aren't human beings too. What's up
with
that? Please tell me, what's the DIFFERENCE between this guy getting
killed
(the recent beheading incident) and the other 10,000 people getting
killed?
Im my mind, it's all the SAME. It's all MURDER. So why the special
attention to this one particular case? Sure it was gruesome and
horrible.
But so is the rest of the war. It's a war for Christ's sakes. What do
you
expect? Why are people so SHOCKED by the pictures of the abuse of
prisoners? It's almost as if they had their heads buried so far up
their
butts that they didn't even know that that's what happens in wars or
something. This is a war!! What do people expect? People think that
the
USA is somehow "morally superior" and has "higher standards" than the
rest
of the world, but in reality, the USA is the WORLD's CHAMPION at
TERRORIZING
other countries. So why are people so surprised to hear about the
abuse?
And why so surprised to hear that some Arabs got pissed and chopped a
guys
head off? It's a war!! And the USA was the AGGRESSOR!! Iraq didn't
attack
us! The USA just said "OK let's go screw with Iraq now" in the same
fashion
that Hitler said "OK Let's go screw with Poland now."
Seems to me that people are just ignorant. They come home, turn on
the
TV and watch Gilligan's Island or watch some football, and then they go
to
bed, get up the next day and do it all over again. When things like 911
happen they're somehow baffled and surprised about it. It was no shock
to
me. I saw the World's # 1 TERRORIST Nation get a taste of their own
medicine. That's what I saw. Once again, before you get angry with me,
don't get me wrong, I thought it was just as terrible as everyone else.
I
cried that day. But I wasn't SHOCKED by it. I'd seen what the USA had
dished out onto other countries, and I knew it was only a matter of time
before they'd get theirs. It's sad, it really is, but anyone who isn't
using the American flag as a 100% BLINDFOLD can see the truth in it.
The
USA can't go around being the WORLD's BULLY and expect everyone to go
along
with it. And most Americans just don't seem to understand that for some
odd
reason. This is baffling to me. TOTALLY BAFFLING.
.
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| User: "The Passion Against the War" |
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13 May 2004 02:07:35 AM |
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Here you go, enlightened ones....
Questions surround young American shown decapitated in video
By Robert H. Reid, Associated Press, 5/12/2004 17:09
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) The young American decapitated on a videotape posted by an
al-Qaida-linked Web site was never in U.S. custody despite claims to the
contrary by his family, U.S. authorities said Wednesday.
Statements by American officials in Iraq leave many unanswered questions,
including why Iraqi police jailed Nicholas Berg for nearly two weeks and why
U.S. officials repeatedly questioned him in custody.
Also unknown is where and under what circumstances Berg disappeared. He was last
in contact with U.S. officials in Baghdad on April 10, and his body was found
Saturday in Baghdad. Staff members at the $30-a-night Al-Fanar Hotel in Baghdad
told The Associated Press that Berg stayed there for several days until April
10.
Two e-mails sent by Berg to his family and friends show the 26-year-old
telecommunications expert traveled widely and unguarded in areas of Iraq a
dangerous practice rarely done by Westerners.
The FBI warned Berg shortly before his disappearance that Iraq was too volatile
a place for unprotected American civilians but he turned down a State Department
offer to fly him home, U.S. officials said Wednesday.
Berg was inspecting communications facilities, some of which were destroyed in
the war or by looters.
During his time in Iraq, he struggled with the Arabic language and worked at
night on a tower in Abu Ghraib, a site of repeated attacks on U.S. convoys and
the location of the notorious prison where U.S. soldiers abused Iraqi inmates.
His father, Michael Berg, told the AP that Michael's sister, now dead, married
an Iraqi man named Mudafer, who became close to Nicholas. In one of the e-mails,
Nicholas Berg describes going to the northern city of Mosul, where he introduced
himself to Mudafer's brother, identified as Moffak Mustaffa.
''We got along splendidly,'' Berg wrote. ''We spent a few hours and I helped him
establish an e-mail account.''
Berg notes that ''my presence ... made him more concerned (about his own safety
and probably mine too) than I've been the entire time I've been here.''
The young man was beheaded Tuesday on a video bearing the title ''Abu Musab
al-Zarqawi shown slaughtering an American,'' referring to an associate of Osama
bin Laden believed behind a wave of suicide bombings in Iraq.
In Washington, Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said
it was likely that al-Zarqawi himself was ''the lead perpetrator.'' Al-Zarqawi,
a Jordanian, is wanted in the killing of an American diplomat in Jordan in 2002
and is suspected of ordering many suicide bombings in Iraq.
U.S. spokesmen Dan Senor and Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt were quick to offer
statements of condolence to his family and to draw attention to the barbarity of
his death. Senor also said that ''to my knowledge'' Berg was not affiliated with
any U.S. or coalition organization, nor was he ever in U.S. custody.
However, Senor said Iraqi police arrested Berg in Mosul on March 24 because
local authorities believed he may have been involved in ''suspicious
activities.''
Senor refused to say more, citing the sensitivity of the case. But he did
confirm that the Americans were aware Berg was in custody.
''U.S. authorities were notified,'' he said. ''The FBI visited Mr. Berg on three
occasions and determined that he was not involved with any criminal or terrorist
activity.''
Berg was released April 6 and ''was advised to leave the country,'' Senor added.
Instead, Berg checked into the Baghdad hotel.
Senor referred questions about the reason for Berg's detention to the Iraqi
police.
In Mosul, however, police told the AP they had no knowledge of the Berg case.
Police official Safwan Talal said the only American arrested there in recent
months was a woman who was released soon afterward.
Since Iraq remains under U.S. military occupation, it seems unlikely that the
Iraqi police would have held Berg, or any other American, for such a length of
time without at least the tacit approval of U.S. authorities.
''The Iraqi police do not tell the FBI what to do, the FBI tells the Iraqi
police what to do,'' Michael Berg told the AP. ''Who do they think they're
kidding?''
Berg told his family that U.S. officials took custody of him soon after his
arrest and he was not allowed to make phone calls or contact a lawyer, his
father said.
Kimmitt said U.S. forces kept tabs on Berg during his confinement to make sure
he was being fed and properly treated because ''he was an American citizen.''
But the three FBI visits suggest American authorities were concerned about more
than Berg's well-being. They may have had their own suspicions about what the
young American was doing in Iraq.
During a briefing Wednesday, Senor confirmed that Berg had registered with the
U.S. Consulate in Baghdad but insisted he ''was not a U.S. government employee,
he has no affiliation with the coalition and to our knowledge he has no
affiliation with any Coalition Provisional Authority contractor.''
He also stated that Berg ''was at no time under the jurisdiction or detention of
coalition forces.''
However, in a Jan. 18 e-mail, Berg said his company had been announced as an
approved subcontractor for a broadcast consortium awarded a contract for the
U.S.-controlled Iraqi Media Network.
''Practically, this means we should be involved with quite a bit of tower work
as part of the reconstruction, repair and new construction of the Iraqi Media
Network,'' he wrote, referring to the network as ''something like NPR in the
U.S.''
It was unclear whether the contract was revoked.
FBI agents visited Berg's parents in West Chester, Pa., a suburb of
Philadelphia, on March 31 and told the family they were trying to confirm their
son's identity.
On April 5, the Bergs sued the government in federal court in Philadelphia,
contending that their son was being held illegally. In a writ filed April 5 in
U.S. District Court in Philadelphia, the Bergs said the State Department told
them their son ''is currently detained in Mosul, Iraq, by the United States
military'' and that American diplomats ''no longer'' had ''any authority or
power to intervene'' on his behalf.
Berg was released the day after the suit was filed. His family said he told them
he had not been mistreated. They did not hear from him after April 9 when
violence flared in Iraq because of the U.S. Marine siege of Fallujah and a
Shiite uprising in the south.
Michael Berg said his son refused a U.S. offer in early April to board an
outbound charter jet because he believed travel to the airport was too
dangerous. American soldiers refer to the airport highway as ''RPG Alley''
because of frequent attacks by insurgents firing rocket-propelled grenades.
According to the State Department, Berg told an American diplomat in Baghdad
that he preferred to travel on his own to Kuwait.
''At that time, the U.S. consular officer extended an offer to assist Mr. Berg
to depart Iraq by plane to Jordan,'' said State Department spokeswoman Kelly
Shannon. ''We'd already discussed that possibility with his family, and we
mentioned that to him, obviously, when we talked to him on the 10th.''
Several days later, however, diplomats received an e-mail from Berg's family
that ''noted he had not been in contact,'' Shannon said.
On April 14, the consulate sent a private contractor to the Al-Fanar Hotel in
Baghdad, where Berg was believed to be staying, to see if he was still there.
''The people we talked to at the hotel didn't remember him being there,''
Shannon said.
Diplomats then alerted the U.S. military to be on the lookout for him.
But hotel staffers, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Berg stayed in room
602 from April 6 until April 10. One of them said Berg lived in the same room
during an earlier visit, which the employee could not remember.
An employee described Berg as a ''nice guy'' who ''always smiled and said
hello,'' unlike other foreign guests. ''Once he told me, 'I'd like to learn
Arabic.'''
''He was very sportive had muscles and liked the Internet,'' another hotel
worker recalled. ''He usually left the hotel in the morning and returned late,
around 10 p.m., usually carrying a sack of beer and mineral water.''
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/133/world/Questions_surround_young_Ameri:.shtml
EagleEye wrote:
"bobo4u" <evil@whitehouse.org> wrote in message
news:evil-40FABB.22535012052004@news.uswest.net...
Me thinks someone just woke up to the truth about his country. He's
escaped from the Matrix.
Get him some antidepressants, quick!
And then what should he do? Write a book? Campaign for Kerry? Have a baby?
Plant a tree?
What is the ACTION of the enlightened person, that's what I'd like to know.
Where does the buck really begin, and where does it really stop?
What can we REALLY do to change things?
I say THINK, THINK, THINK, and then use whatever resource you have at your
disposal, to wake up your fellow man, unshakle him from his delusion
projected onto the cave wall, and then turn him, to face the light.
Praise God for the Internet!
I think it is starting to really change things in a big way, that the ruling
elite class didn't expect or foresee.
I think a good analogy would be to think of a new type of inner circle of
the collective consciousness being like an ovum, and we are the sperm of
information trying to penetrate that egg, in order to comsumate something
novel, something radical, tranformative and transcendant.
I like to think of the enlightened self as an omega point of global
transformation, where the meaning of your communication is the response you
get as feedback, and sometimes, when you really ring the bell, boy is there
feedback!
Then it is time to really keep your wits about you, and to stay humble, and
to be careful how you listen, because then even what you think you may have,
can be taken away in a hurry.
It's hard thing to do effectively, in as much as it requires throwing your
pearls before swine, and leaving yourself open to being trampled under foot.
In the immortal words of Kermit the Frog, "it isn't easy being green".
In article <c88ca6207c8e7139c0cd594b60b96949@news.teranews.com>,
"MysticRythyms" <HeilBush@fascistpig.gov> wrote:
What I'd like to know is why the big media bombardment concerning this
guy
getting beheaded in Iraq? Don't get me wrong, I think it's sick and
wrong
just like everyone else. But it seems to me that the USA has bombed and
slaughtered over 10,000 Iraqi's and nobody has said much about it. The
USA
has created scenes like this is in FALLUJAH
(http://blog.newstandardnews.net/iraqdispatches/archives/000343.html)
where
several hundred Iraqi's were MASSACRED, but nobody has much to say about
it.
And then one white American gets killed and the media is all over it.
They
refer to it as "murder" (which I totally agree, it was MURDER) but they
refer to the massacre of Iraqi's by the USA as "casualities." They
report
the US Soldiers getting killed, but they downplay the deaths of the
Iraqi
civilians and soldiers as if they aren't human beings too. What's up
with
that? Please tell me, what's the DIFFERENCE between this guy getting
killed
(the recent beheading incident) and the other 10,000 people getting
killed?
Im my mind, it's all the SAME. It's all MURDER. So why the special
attention to this one particular case? Sure it was gruesome and
horrible.
But so is the rest of the war. It's a war for Christ's sakes. What do
you
expect? Why are people so SHOCKED by the pictures of the abuse of
prisoners? It's almost as if they had their heads buried so far up
their
butts that they didn't even know that that's what happens in wars or
something. This is a war!! What do people expect? People think that
the
USA is somehow "morally superior" and has "higher standards" than the
rest
of the world, but in reality, the USA is the WORLD's CHAMPION at
TERRORIZING
other countries. So why are people so surprised to hear about the
abuse?
And why so surprised to hear that some Arabs got pissed and chopped a
guys
head off? It's a war!! And the USA was the AGGRESSOR!! Iraq didn't
attack
us! The USA just said "OK let's go screw with Iraq now" in the same
fashion
that Hitler said "OK Let's go screw with Poland now."
Seems to me that people are just ignorant. They come home, turn on
the
TV and watch Gilligan's Island or watch some football, and then they go
to
bed, get up the next day and do it all over again. When things like 911
happen they're somehow baffled and surprised about it. It was no shock
to
me. I saw the World's # 1 TERRORIST Nation get a taste of their own
medicine. That's what I saw. Once again, before you get angry with me,
don't get me wrong, I thought it was just as terrible as everyone else.
I
cried that day. But I wasn't SHOCKED by it. I'd seen what the USA had
dished out onto other countries, and I knew it was only a matter of time
before they'd get theirs. It's sad, it really is, but anyone who isn't
using the American flag as a 100% BLINDFOLD can see the truth in it.
The
USA can't go around being the WORLD's BULLY and expect everyone to go
along
with it. And most Americans just don't seem to understand that for some
odd
reason. This is baffling to me. TOTALLY BAFFLING.
.
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