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17 May 2004 09:10:41 AM |
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Re: 15 Anomalies Surrounding Death Of Nick Berg |
Not certainly qualifies as one of the best examples of the leftist mental
defectives posting here.
Firstly, that "poor, white girl from Virginia" was certainly and quite
obviously having lots of fun in her filthy pictures. She certainly deserves
exactly what she's going to get, and it won't be enough, in my opinion. Nor
will whatever happens to the very few others who participated, or their
local commanders, who were directly responsible.
Why is that, Not? Because they did it. It IS THEIR FAULT.
Now, to suggest that someone in the Pentagon, not to mention Secretary
Rumsfeld or the President are somehow responsible for any of this simply
demonstrates one again, as if we needed another example, of the ignorance,
the total stupidity of the left.
Not, it also demonstrates that in your entire life, you have never held even
a very minor management responsibility over people. You simply have no idea
what your talking about, and no experience that justifies an opinion on the
subject.
Finally, sonny, like it or not, there are people in this world you are
smarter than you, more qualified than you, and just better than you, and
they are the ones who get ahead and become wealthy, simply because they know
how.
You, on the other hand, are the person you describe below. Not to bright, .
rather lazy, looking for "the government", really, the people who work for a
living to support you, the type who would have been right there with the
trash doing just like this "poor white girl from Virginia."
Why? Because your type is just too stupid to know any better.
As far as the "Iraqi's wanting us all dead," sonny, you once again would not
know an Iraqi from a hole in the ground, much less being informed enough to
speek for all of them.
Finally, there have been blacks in very responsible positions in the
military for decades.
So, all your leftist teary eyed nonsense is just that. These people were and
are trash, who happened to sneak into the military.
"Top Poster" <Top_Poster_Rewls@All_others_are_fake@poT_retsoP.moCzz34> wrote
in message news:AzWpc.13650$j6.7602@edtnps84...
"notritenoteri" <coldasfire@hades.com> wrote in message
news:iB9pc.3730$oq3.19552@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
great work there rubber man if you don't like the message disparage the
messenger. What a dummy.How do you like the way the pentagon is gonna
hang
the poor white girl from Virginia for following orders like she taught
to
do? Now if the KKK were still in vogue it would be some poor black man
from
some support unit like graves registration or something.How times have
changes now the next lowest on the pole gets the weenie. How come its
always the young, poor and not too bright ones who get it in the neck
when
the ***** hits the fan? What is a worse charge failing to obey an order
or
posing for some disgusting pictures. No wonder the Iraqis want you all
dead.
No matter how many times I read the above "creation", I came to the
same
conclusion.
not-too-bright is an illiterate, scatter-brained, half-retarded twit
that obviously suffers from some horrible brain wasting disease.
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17 May 2004 09:18:33 AM |
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<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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Not certainly qualifies as one of the best examples of the leftist mental
defectives posting here.
Firstly, that "poor, white girl from Virginia" was certainly and quite
obviously having lots of fun in her filthy pictures. She certainly
deserves
exactly what she's going to get, and it won't be enough, in my opinion.
Nor
will whatever happens to the very few others who participated, or their
local commanders, who were directly responsible.
Why is that, Not? Because they did it. It IS THEIR FAULT.
Now, to suggest that someone in the Pentagon, not to mention Secretary
Rumsfeld or the President are somehow responsible for any of this simply
demonstrates one again, as if we needed another example, of the ignorance,
the total stupidity of the left.
And yet, we now have irrefutable proof that the abandonment of the Geneva
Conventions was ordered by the WH.
Hell, I remember when it was announced in 2001. Why don't you? lol
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17 May 2004 03:10:59 PM |
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ou have "irrefutable proof" that it originated in the White House?
Your not writing to some of your airheaded leftist nitwits here, fella.
Not in your best crack pipe dream do you have even casual "proof" of
anything.
"Server 13" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BJ3qc.29234$sA.26915@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
Not certainly qualifies as one of the best examples of the leftist
mental
defectives posting here.
Firstly, that "poor, white girl from Virginia" was certainly and quite
obviously having lots of fun in her filthy pictures. She certainly
deserves
exactly what she's going to get, and it won't be enough, in my opinion.
Nor
will whatever happens to the very few others who participated, or their
local commanders, who were directly responsible.
Why is that, Not? Because they did it. It IS THEIR FAULT.
Now, to suggest that someone in the Pentagon, not to mention Secretary
Rumsfeld or the President are somehow responsible for any of this simply
demonstrates one again, as if we needed another example, of the
ignorance,
the total stupidity of the left.
And yet, we now have irrefutable proof that the abandonment of the
Geneva
Conventions was ordered by the WH.
Hell, I remember when it was announced in 2001. Why don't you? lol
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| User: "Ivan Gowch" |
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| Title: Re: 15 Anomalies Surrounding Death Of Nick Berg |
18 May 2004 02:35:59 PM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:10:59 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
==>ou have "irrefutable proof" that it originated in the White House?
No doubt about it at all.
". . . across Capitol Hill, many also fault senior Pentagon civilians
and brass for loosening the rules of interrogation in Iraq and the top
guns of the Bush Administration for setting a tone of tolerance as far
back as Sept. 11 that may have encouraged the abuse. While the
Administration maintained that its rules and practices of
interrogation adhered to international standards, a broad spectrum of
critics argue that the Pentagon adopted harsh methods that played fast
and loose with the law. Even if no one ordered these particular
incidents, critics argue that the abuses can be read as Administration
policy carried to extreme."
". . . it is exactly those kinds of improper or illegal techniques,
say the Red Cross and other human rights experts, that the Bush
Administration has systematically applied at U.S. detention centers
around the world. When the President declared his no-holds-barred war
on terrorism, top officials announced that the Geneva Conventions
wouldn't cover prisoners held at Guantánamo. A soldier involved with
intelligence at the base told TIME that interrogators there had been
formally briefed on how the treaty didn't apply to their captives.
'There were no bright lines on what you could and couldn't do,' he
says. It was clear that in high-priority cases, 'all sorts of tactics
could be used.'"
-Time magazine
"The roots of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal lie not in the criminal
inclinations of a few Army reservists but in a decision, approved last
year by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, to expand a highly
secret operation, which had been focussed on the hunt for Al Qaeda, to
the interrogation of prisoners in Iraq. Rumsfeld’s decision embittered
the American intelligence community, damaged the effectiveness of
élite combat units, and hurt America’s prospects in the war on
terror."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
"According to interviews with several past and present American
intelligence officials, the Pentagon’s operation, known inside the
intelligence community by several code words, including Copper Green,
encouraged physical coercion and sexual humiliation of Iraqi prisoners
in an effort to generate more intelligence about the growing
insurgency in Iraq."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
==>Your not writing to some of your airheaded leftist nitwits here, fella.
If he was responding to you, then yes,
he was certainly writing to an airheaded
nitwit.
Not only that, he was writing to a nitwit who has
made no secret of his contempt for the principles
that Americans have always prided themselves
on.
You imagine yourself a patriot, but in fact, you (and
those who share your idiot opinions) are more
un-American than Osama bin Laden, more
traitorous than Benedict Arnold, more corrosive to
the nation's fabric than Timothy McVeigh.
--
I do not know where all this fantasy nonsense, these suicidal concepts of
morality and "fairness" of "civil rights" come from in the American public
today.
-nshinede, April 23, 2004
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19 May 2004 09:59:17 AM |
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Again, Ivan, like all leftists, you quote only a very minor part of my
comments, to distort the meaning, as you are afraid of the truth.
Just yet another example of the left's use of the old communist
dezinformatsia tactics. In other words, a lie.
All the paragraphs you write below represent your personal opinion. The are
certainly "irrefutable proof" of nothing.
"Ivan Gowch" <gowch@SPAMTHEENOThotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uulka05ao11u6967c8k5vtfcebgu30n0f0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:10:59 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
==>ou have "irrefutable proof" that it originated in the White House?
No doubt about it at all.
". . . across Capitol Hill, many also fault senior Pentagon civilians
and brass for loosening the rules of interrogation in Iraq and the top
guns of the Bush Administration for setting a tone of tolerance as far
back as Sept. 11 that may have encouraged the abuse. While the
Administration maintained that its rules and practices of
interrogation adhered to international standards, a broad spectrum of
critics argue that the Pentagon adopted harsh methods that played fast
and loose with the law. Even if no one ordered these particular
incidents, critics argue that the abuses can be read as Administration
policy carried to extreme."
". . . it is exactly those kinds of improper or illegal techniques,
say the Red Cross and other human rights experts, that the Bush
Administration has systematically applied at U.S. detention centers
around the world. When the President declared his no-holds-barred war
on terrorism, top officials announced that the Geneva Conventions
wouldn't cover prisoners held at Guantánamo. A soldier involved with
intelligence at the base told TIME that interrogators there had been
formally briefed on how the treaty didn't apply to their captives.
'There were no bright lines on what you could and couldn't do,' he
says. It was clear that in high-priority cases, 'all sorts of tactics
could be used.'"
-Time magazine
"The roots of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal lie not in the criminal
inclinations of a few Army reservists but in a decision, approved last
year by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, to expand a highly
secret operation, which had been focussed on the hunt for Al Qaeda, to
the interrogation of prisoners in Iraq. Rumsfeld's decision embittered
the American intelligence community, damaged the effectiveness of
élite combat units, and hurt America's prospects in the war on
terror."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
"According to interviews with several past and present American
intelligence officials, the Pentagon's operation, known inside the
intelligence community by several code words, including Copper Green,
encouraged physical coercion and sexual humiliation of Iraqi prisoners
in an effort to generate more intelligence about the growing
insurgency in Iraq."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
==>Your not writing to some of your airheaded leftist nitwits here, fella.
If he was responding to you, then yes,
he was certainly writing to an airheaded
nitwit.
Not only that, he was writing to a nitwit who has
made no secret of his contempt for the principles
that Americans have always prided themselves
on.
You imagine yourself a patriot, but in fact, you (and
those who share your idiot opinions) are more
un-American than Osama bin Laden, more
traitorous than Benedict Arnold, more corrosive to
the nation's fabric than Timothy McVeigh.
--
I do not know where all this fantasy nonsense, these suicidal concepts of
morality and "fairness" of "civil rights" come from in the American public
today.
-nshinede, April 23, 2004
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| User: "Ivan Gowch" |
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19 May 2004 02:24:50 PM |
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 14:59:17 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
==>Again, Ivan, like all leftists, you quote only a very minor part of my
==>comments, to distort the meaning, as you are afraid of the truth.
Truth is something with which you are
obviously very unfamiliar.
"Minor part" of your comments?
I quoted ALL of your comments (such as they were),
except this one:
"Not in your best crack pipe dream do you have even
casual 'proof' of anything."
That blather was obviously not worth repeating
because, like virtually everything you spew, it's
nothing but a mindless taunt, with no intellectual
content. Leaving it out hardly "distorted the
meaning" of your brainless utterances which, in
fact, had no "meaning" at all.
Once again, you are proven to be a liar, as anyone who
cares to check your original post
(n%8qc.29556$sA.13440@fe2.columbus.rr.com
can see for themselves.
Thanks, *****.
--
I do not know where all this fantasy nonsense, these suicidal concepts of
morality and "fairness" of "civil rights" come from in the American public
today.
-nshinede, April 23, 2004
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| User: "Ivan Gowch" |
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17 May 2004 02:44:42 PM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 14:10:41 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
==>Not certainly qualifies as one of the best examples of the leftist mental
==>defectives posting here.
==>
==>Firstly, that "poor, white girl from Virginia" was certainly and quite
==>obviously having lots of fun in her filthy pictures. She certainly deserves
==>exactly what she's going to get, and it won't be enough, in my opinion. Nor
==>will whatever happens to the very few others who participated, or their
==>local commanders, who were directly responsible.
==>
==>Why is that, Not? Because they did it. It IS THEIR FAULT.
==>
==>Now, to suggest that someone in the Pentagon, not to mention Secretary
==>Rumsfeld or the President are somehow responsible for any of this simply
==>demonstrates one again, as if we needed another example, of the ignorance,
==>the total stupidity of the left.
Except, of course, that it's now been revealed that
Rumsfeld HIMSELF ordered that prisoners be
tortured, telling his interrogators, "Do what you
want."
This, of course, makes no difference to nshinede,
who is quite adamant that those outmoded notions
of morality, fairness and civil rights have no place
in the new Amerika, or the world it is trying to rule.
--
I do not know where all this fantasy nonsense, these suicidal concepts of
morality and "fairness" of "civil rights" come from in the American public
today.
-nshinede, April 23, 2004
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| User: "" |
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18 May 2004 09:37:24 AM |
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Well, Ivan "it has now been revealed" that Secretary Rumsfeld is responsible
personally, is a total figment of your hippie crack pipe.
As to "morality, fairness, and civil rights" we have seen your God of
morality in the sick willie clinton, to whom the incident of sexual abuse
would have seemed quite ordinary and acceptable, without doubt.
As to "civil rights" which in your sick minds exist without any "civil
duties"
sonny, are not yours for free. You have to earn them. You people cut and run
from every national danger. You only contribution to the success of our
country is your ignorant critism, whining, and the success of the drug
thugs.
You are parasites on America, you produce nothing of value, you are
worthless.
None of your romantic and emotional sniveling, adorned with high but very
ambiguous concepts, saves you from this judgement. You do not live by the
concepts you spout, do not walk the walk, but demonstrate the character of
the spoiled brats you in fact are.
Your entire concept of our country can be reduced to a very simple
question, which you leftists voice in many forms every day; "What new
freebies can I get"?
There is none of John F Kennedy in you. Your answer to his challenge is
quite clearly; "I will do nothing for my country. It owes ME a living."
"Ivan Gowch" <gowch@SPAMTHEENOThotmail.com> wrote in message
news:g02ia0dc4r4tc9gouo26i7drdpjieevqvv@4ax.com...
On Mon, 17 May 2004 14:10:41 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
==>Not certainly qualifies as one of the best examples of the leftist
mental
==>defectives posting here.
==>
==>Firstly, that "poor, white girl from Virginia" was certainly and quite
==>obviously having lots of fun in her filthy pictures. She certainly
deserves
==>exactly what she's going to get, and it won't be enough, in my opinion.
Nor
==>will whatever happens to the very few others who participated, or their
==>local commanders, who were directly responsible.
==>
==>Why is that, Not? Because they did it. It IS THEIR FAULT.
==>
==>Now, to suggest that someone in the Pentagon, not to mention Secretary
==>Rumsfeld or the President are somehow responsible for any of this
simply
==>demonstrates one again, as if we needed another example, of the
ignorance,
==>the total stupidity of the left.
Except, of course, that it's now been revealed that
Rumsfeld HIMSELF ordered that prisoners be
tortured, telling his interrogators, "Do what you
want."
This, of course, makes no difference to nshinede,
who is quite adamant that those outmoded notions
of morality, fairness and civil rights have no place
in the new Amerika, or the world it is trying to rule.
--
I do not know where all this fantasy nonsense, these suicidal concepts of
morality and "fairness" of "civil rights" come from in the American public
today.
-nshinede, April 23, 2004
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18 May 2004 02:35:59 PM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 14:37:24 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
==>Well, Ivan "it has now been revealed" that Secretary Rumsfeld is responsible
==>personally, is a total figment of your hippie crack pipe.
If anyone is sucking on a crack pipe it
must be you, since there is now no longer any
doubt that yes, Rumsfeld, along with his lackey
Cambone, are directly responsible for the horrors
at Abu Ghraib.
To wit:
"The roots of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal lie not in the criminal
inclinations of a few Army reservists but in a decision, approved last
year by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, to expand a highly
secret operation, which had been focussed on the hunt for Al Qaeda, to
the interrogation of prisoners in Iraq. Rumsfeld’s decision embittered
the American intelligence community, damaged the effectiveness of
élite combat units, and hurt America’s prospects in the war on
terror."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
"According to interviews with several past and present American
intelligence officials, the Pentagon’s operation, known inside the
intelligence community by several code words, including Copper Green,
encouraged physical coercion and sexual humiliation of Iraqi prisoners
in an effort to generate more intelligence about the growing
insurgency in Iraq."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
Bwahahaha! You are trumped again, moron.
==>As to "morality, fairness, and civil rights" we have seen your God of
==>morality in the sick willie clinton, to whom the incident of sexual abuse
==>would have seemed quite ordinary and acceptable, without doubt.
No one has ever accused Bill Clinton of being
a paragon of morality. But then, no one with
any credibility has ever accused Bill Clinton of
sexual abuse, either. He liked to get his *****
sucked. Billions of men like to get their cocks
sucked. And Monica Lewinsky was not only an
enthusiastic *****, she initiated the
cocksucking.
It's not surprising, however, that you and your
fellow right-wing morons regard any sign
of sexuality as deviance, because you are all impotent
as wet spaghetti and insanely jealous of anyone
capable of a hard-on. (The same appears to be true
of many U.S. military types in Iraq, who apparently
get off on watching naked men masturbate.)
One thing is certain: America's reputation, and the
safety of its citizens, would be in far better shape
today if Clinton, and not the unelected Texas retard,
were president. And, some 700+ U.S. soldiers
would still be alive and with their families.
==>As to "civil rights" which in your sick minds exist without any "civil
==>duties"
==>sonny, are not yours for free. You have to earn them.
And that is where you are so disastrously,
ridiculously wrong.
Rights are rights. Period. They do not have to
be earned. They do not come contingent on
performing any duties. The Constitution of the
United States does not say its citizens may enjoy
freedom of speech, or assembly, or any of the
other rights it guarantees, ONLY IF they do this
or that.
But there is no reason to be surprised that you
fail to understand even this basic tenet of
American society -- something even elementary
school kids learn.
Remember the Declaration of Independence?
(What am I thinking? Of course you don't. You're
an idiot.)
The preamble says:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men
are created equal; that they are endowed by their
Creator with inherent and inalienable rights. . ."
"Endowed with" . . . "inalienable rights. . ."
Get it now, *****-for-brains? The Declaration does not
say these rights come at the price of "duties."
Man, what a joke you are. And what an UN-American,
freedom-hating dumbass of a joke.
You have made your utter contempt for morality,
fairness and civil rights all too plain, and your
ignorance of the governing principles of the nation
you claim to love, laughably obvious.
[snip]
==>Your entire concept of our country can be reduced to a very simple
==>question, which you leftists voice in many forms every day; "What new
==>freebies can I get"?
Bwahahaha! If that's so, we must have adopted that
attitude from Enron's Ken Lay, Tyco's Henry Kozlowski,
your UNelected president of vice, ***** Cheney, and
the scores of other Republican corporate bandits who
have been stealing the American people blind for
years.
Whatever you want to say about leftists, when it comes
to demanding something for nothing, we can't hold a
candle to your Republican heroes.
Thanks for the chuckle, and the opportunity to point
out, once again, that you are a liar, an idiot and a
practicing fascist.
--
I do not know where all this fantasy nonsense, these suicidal concepts of
morality and "fairness" of "civil rights" come from in the American public
today.
-nshinede, April 23, 2004
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| User: "" |
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19 May 2004 10:35:59 AM |
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Ivan; your entire little temper tantrum can be reduced to a few thoughts.
If you think our nation exists just to pamper you, provide you with freebies
and "civil rights" your quite wrong. Some day, you may have to grow up and
find you have duties to yourself, your children, and your nation. That
requires manhood. Your life as just another spoiled brat should have ended
with adulthood.
Now, abu Ghraib was the product of a very few people, who are just like you.
Sex, also, son, comes with moral duties. It is not a game which can be
reduced to the sewer by your kind.
I see no need for even one American soldier to die to protect your "rights"
You are not worth it.
"Ivan Gowch" <gowch@SPAMTHEENOThotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10oka01ha75760fevsn151l3btio7l98sc@4ax.com...
On Tue, 18 May 2004 14:37:24 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
==>Well, Ivan "it has now been revealed" that Secretary Rumsfeld is
responsible
==>personally, is a total figment of your hippie crack pipe.
If anyone is sucking on a crack pipe it
must be you, since there is now no longer any
doubt that yes, Rumsfeld, along with his lackey
Cambone, are directly responsible for the horrors
at Abu Ghraib.
To wit:
"The roots of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal lie not in the criminal
inclinations of a few Army reservists but in a decision, approved last
year by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, to expand a highly
secret operation, which had been focussed on the hunt for Al Qaeda, to
the interrogation of prisoners in Iraq. Rumsfeld's decision embittered
the American intelligence community, damaged the effectiveness of
élite combat units, and hurt America's prospects in the war on
terror."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
"According to interviews with several past and present American
intelligence officials, the Pentagon's operation, known inside the
intelligence community by several code words, including Copper Green,
encouraged physical coercion and sexual humiliation of Iraqi prisoners
in an effort to generate more intelligence about the growing
insurgency in Iraq."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
Bwahahaha! You are trumped again, moron.
==>As to "morality, fairness, and civil rights" we have seen your God of
==>morality in the sick willie clinton, to whom the incident of sexual
abuse
==>would have seemed quite ordinary and acceptable, without doubt.
No one has ever accused Bill Clinton of being
a paragon of morality. But then, no one with
any credibility has ever accused Bill Clinton of
sexual abuse, either. He liked to get his *****
sucked. Billions of men like to get their cocks
sucked. And Monica Lewinsky was not only an
enthusiastic *****, she initiated the
cocksucking.
It's not surprising, however, that you and your
fellow right-wing morons regard any sign
of sexuality as deviance, because you are all impotent
as wet spaghetti and insanely jealous of anyone
capable of a hard-on. (The same appears to be true
of many U.S. military types in Iraq, who apparently
get off on watching naked men masturbate.)
One thing is certain: America's reputation, and the
safety of its citizens, would be in far better shape
today if Clinton, and not the unelected Texas retard,
were president. And, some 700+ U.S. soldiers
would still be alive and with their families.
==>As to "civil rights" which in your sick minds exist without any "civil
==>duties"
==>sonny, are not yours for free. You have to earn them.
And that is where you are so disastrously,
ridiculously wrong.
Rights are rights. Period. They do not have to
be earned. They do not come contingent on
performing any duties. The Constitution of the
United States does not say its citizens may enjoy
freedom of speech, or assembly, or any of the
other rights it guarantees, ONLY IF they do this
or that.
But there is no reason to be surprised that you
fail to understand even this basic tenet of
American society -- something even elementary
school kids learn.
Remember the Declaration of Independence?
(What am I thinking? Of course you don't. You're
an idiot.)
The preamble says:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men
are created equal; that they are endowed by their
Creator with inherent and inalienable rights. . ."
"Endowed with" . . . "inalienable rights. . ."
Get it now, *****-for-brains? The Declaration does not
say these rights come at the price of "duties."
Man, what a joke you are. And what an UN-American,
freedom-hating dumbass of a joke.
You have made your utter contempt for morality,
fairness and civil rights all too plain, and your
ignorance of the governing principles of the nation
you claim to love, laughably obvious.
[snip]
==>Your entire concept of our country can be reduced to a very simple
==>question, which you leftists voice in many forms every day; "What new
==>freebies can I get"?
Bwahahaha! If that's so, we must have adopted that
attitude from Enron's Ken Lay, Tyco's Henry Kozlowski,
your UNelected president of vice, ***** Cheney, and
the scores of other Republican corporate bandits who
have been stealing the American people blind for
years.
Whatever you want to say about leftists, when it comes
to demanding something for nothing, we can't hold a
candle to your Republican heroes.
Thanks for the chuckle, and the opportunity to point
out, once again, that you are a liar, an idiot and a
practicing fascist.
--
I do not know where all this fantasy nonsense, these suicidal concepts of
morality and "fairness" of "civil rights" come from in the American public
today.
-nshinede, April 23, 2004
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<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:<z9Lqc.1431$%C.723@fe1.columbus.rr.com>...
Ivan; your entire little temper tantrum can be reduced to a few thoughts.
If you think our nation exists just to pamper you, provide you with freebies
and "civil rights" your quite wrong. Some day, you may have to grow up and
find you have duties to yourself, your children, and your nation. That
requires manhood. Your life as just another spoiled brat should have ended
with adulthood.
Now, abu Ghraib was the product of a very few people, who are just like you.
Sex, also, son, comes with moral duties. It is not a game which can be
reduced to the sewer by your kind.
Try reading and comprehending the Declaration of Independence you
senile old fascist.
Ho Chi Minh said the same thing. "We believe men are created equal.
That they are endowed with unalienable rights among which are the
rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
He also told the USA that he only wanted their moral support. Nothing
more.
Upon hearing of this, Kennedy vowed to not support the corrupt regime
of South Vietnam and was going to pull out American troops.
For that, for issuing real money, and for emasculating the CIA so it
could no longer range far and wide overthrowing governments, he was
murdered.
And you, a retarded old fuckwit, support and endorse the agenda that
murdered him.
It is *YOU* who are a traitor to the USA and the principles upon
which it was founded.
Stupid old Zionazi turdlet.
I see no need for even one American soldier to die to protect your "rights"
You are not worth it.
"Ivan Gowch" <gowch@SPAMTHEENOThotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10oka01ha75760fevsn151l3btio7l98sc@4ax.com...
On Tue, 18 May 2004 14:37:24 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
==>Well, Ivan "it has now been revealed" that Secretary Rumsfeld is
responsible
==>personally, is a total figment of your hippie crack pipe.
If anyone is sucking on a crack pipe it
must be you, since there is now no longer any
doubt that yes, Rumsfeld, along with his lackey
Cambone, are directly responsible for the horrors
at Abu Ghraib.
To wit:
"The roots of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal lie not in the criminal
inclinations of a few Army reservists but in a decision, approved last
year by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, to expand a highly
secret operation, which had been focussed on the hunt for Al Qaeda, to
the interrogation of prisoners in Iraq. Rumsfeld's decision embittered
the American intelligence community, damaged the effectiveness of
élite combat units, and hurt America's prospects in the war on
terror."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
"According to interviews with several past and present American
intelligence officials, the Pentagon's operation, known inside the
intelligence community by several code words, including Copper Green,
encouraged physical coercion and sexual humiliation of Iraqi prisoners
in an effort to generate more intelligence about the growing
insurgency in Iraq."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
Bwahahaha! You are trumped again, moron.
==>As to "morality, fairness, and civil rights" we have seen your God of
==>morality in the sick willie clinton, to whom the incident of sexual
abuse
==>would have seemed quite ordinary and acceptable, without doubt.
No one has ever accused Bill Clinton of being
a paragon of morality. But then, no one with
any credibility has ever accused Bill Clinton of
sexual abuse, either. He liked to get his *****
sucked. Billions of men like to get their cocks
sucked. And Monica Lewinsky was not only an
enthusiastic *****, she initiated the
cocksucking.
It's not surprising, however, that you and your
fellow right-wing morons regard any sign
of sexuality as deviance, because you are all impotent
as wet spaghetti and insanely jealous of anyone
capable of a hard-on. (The same appears to be true
of many U.S. military types in Iraq, who apparently
get off on watching naked men masturbate.)
One thing is certain: America's reputation, and the
safety of its citizens, would be in far better shape
today if Clinton, and not the unelected Texas retard,
were president. And, some 700+ U.S. soldiers
would still be alive and with their families.
==>As to "civil rights" which in your sick minds exist without any "civil
==>duties"
==>sonny, are not yours for free. You have to earn them.
And that is where you are so disastrously,
ridiculously wrong.
Rights are rights. Period. They do not have to
be earned. They do not come contingent on
performing any duties. The Constitution of the
United States does not say its citizens may enjoy
freedom of speech, or assembly, or any of the
other rights it guarantees, ONLY IF they do this
or that.
But there is no reason to be surprised that you
fail to understand even this basic tenet of
American society -- something even elementary
school kids learn.
Remember the Declaration of Independence?
(What am I thinking? Of course you don't. You're
an idiot.)
The preamble says:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men
are created equal; that they are endowed by their
Creator with inherent and inalienable rights. . ."
"Endowed with" . . . "inalienable rights. . ."
Get it now, *****-for-brains? The Declaration does not
say these rights come at the price of "duties."
Man, what a joke you are. And what an UN-American,
freedom-hating dumbass of a joke.
You have made your utter contempt for morality,
fairness and civil rights all too plain, and your
ignorance of the governing principles of the nation
you claim to love, laughably obvious.
[snip]
==>Your entire concept of our country can be reduced to a very simple
==>question, which you leftists voice in many forms every day; "What new
==>freebies can I get"?
Bwahahaha! If that's so, we must have adopted that
attitude from Enron's Ken Lay, Tyco's Henry Kozlowski,
your UNelected president of vice, ***** Cheney, and
the scores of other Republican corporate bandits who
have been stealing the American people blind for
years.
Whatever you want to say about leftists, when it comes
to demanding something for nothing, we can't hold a
candle to your Republican heroes.
Thanks for the chuckle, and the opportunity to point
out, once again, that you are a liar, an idiot and a
practicing fascist.
--
I do not know where all this fantasy nonsense, these suicidal concepts of
morality and "fairness" of "civil rights" come from in the American public
today.
-nshinede, April 23, 2004
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20 May 2004 02:43:40 PM |
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On 19 May 2004 18:10:09 -0700, (Ron) wrote:
nshinede:
==>> Ivan; your entire little temper tantrum can be reduced to a few thoughts.
==>>
==>> If you think our nation exists just to pamper you, provide you with freebies
==>> and "civil rights" your quite wrong. Some day, you may have to grow up and
==>> find you have duties to yourself, your children, and your nation. That
==>> requires manhood. Your life as just another spoiled brat should have ended
==>> with adulthood.
==>>
==>> Now, abu Ghraib was the product of a very few people, who are just like you.
==>> Sex, also, son, comes with moral duties. It is not a game which can be
==>> reduced to the sewer by your kind.
==> Try reading and comprehending the Declaration of Independence you
==>senile old fascist.
==>
==> Ho Chi Minh said the same thing. "We believe men are created equal.
==>That they are endowed with unalienable rights among which are the
==>rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
==>
==> He also told the USA that he only wanted their moral support. Nothing
==>more.
==>
==> Upon hearing of this, Kennedy vowed to not support the corrupt regime
==>of South Vietnam and was going to pull out American troops.
==>
==> For that, for issuing real money, and for emasculating the CIA so it
==>could no longer range far and wide overthrowing governments, he was
==>murdered.
==>
==> And you, a retarded old fuckwit, support and endorse the agenda that
==>murdered him.
==>
==> It is *YOU* who are a traitor to the USA and the principles upon
==>which it was founded.
Well said.
--
I do not know where all this fantasy nonsense, these suicidal concepts of
morality and "fairness" of "civil rights" come from in the American public
today.
-nshinede, April 23, 2004
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19 May 2004 02:24:50 PM |
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 15:35:59 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
==>Ivan; your entire little temper tantrum can be reduced to a few thoughts.
As opposed to your tantrums, which are quite
devoid of any thoughts whatsoever.
==>If you think our nation exists just to pamper you, provide you with freebies
==>and "civil rights" your (sic) quite wrong.
Actually, your nation "pampers" and "provides
with freebies" only the already rich, the
corporate thieves who have looted their
companies and their employees' pension
funds, and your idiot president's buddies.
But as far as rights are concerned, yes, that
is exactly what America is supposed to provide
its people. You, of course, a stone-ignorant
fool who doesn't even understand the tenets
upon which your country is based, don't know
this.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men
are created equal; that they are endowed by their
Creator with inherent and inalienable rights. . ."
-Preamble to the Declaration of Independence
You should read it sometime.
[snip]
==>Now, abu Ghraib was the product of a very few people,
Nope. The tortures inflicted there on helpless,
innocent people by sadistic queers within the U.S.
military were government policy, directly ordered
by your war-criminal secretary of defense.
"Fewer than two hundred operatives and officials, including Rumsfeld
and General Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, were
"completely read into the program," the former intelligence official
said. The goal was to keep the operation protected. "We're not going
to read more people than necessary into our heart of darkness," he
said. "The rules are 'Grab whom you must. Do what you want.'"
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
==>Sex, also, son, comes with moral duties. It is not a game which can be
==>reduced to the sewer by your kind.
Apparently, you think the twisted geeks who
ran Abu Ghraib prison were fulfilling their
"moral duties" by sodomizing Iraqi men
and raping Iraqi women. Interesting.
==>I see no need for even one American soldier to die to protect your "rights"
Neither do I. In fact, no American soldier
since WWII has ever died to protect my rights.
Or yours, either, for that matter.
But you don't care how many Americans
die, as long as you get to enjoy the vicarious
pleasure of knowing that somewhere, for
some reason that also doesn't interest you,
"your boys" are busy killing people in your
name, thereby confirming your "manhood"
which, I guarantee you, is very much in doubt.
You are one of your society's pitiful losers --
ignored and disrespected at the tail end of a
life free of accomplishment or achievement.
You are a rabid dog, snapping your jaws blindly
at everything in sight in the mad hope of biting
a "leftist," an uneducated bozo with a head full
of jingoistic slogans and clueless about even
your own country's history.
And, like all losers, what you are best at is sitting
back to cheerlead as other people die, so you
can puff out your little chest -- proud that, although
you're regarded in your own land as an insignificant
clod, at least you can enjoy what you imagine are the
bragging rights of being a 'murrican.
But you should understand that in your contempt
for basic American values, your ignorance of
your own history, your chickenshit obedience
to a criminal regime that is degrading your
country's place in the world, you are more
unAmerican than the most fanatical Islamic
militant, more destructive to your country than
a thousand hijacked airliners, more toxic to your
society than a hundred Timothy McVeighs.
When the history of these times is written, people
will marvel that assholes like you actually got to
run around free, and even vote.
I may be one of your hated "leftists," but I am a far
better American than you.
--
I do not know where all this fantasy nonsense, these suicidal concepts of
morality and "fairness" of "civil rights" come from in the American public
today.
-nshinede, April 23, 2004
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19 May 2004 09:12:28 PM |
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you said it nshit.. he can "reduce his tantrum to a few thoughts." well that
is 10 more than you can do. you have "one" tantrum and that is to call
people leftists, go back and bow to you masters picture, nshit you monkey
man worshiper.
<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:z9Lqc.1431$%C.723@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
Ivan; your entire little temper tantrum can be reduced to a few thoughts.
If you think our nation exists just to pamper you, provide you with
freebies
and "civil rights" your quite wrong. Some day, you may have to grow up and
find you have duties to yourself, your children, and your nation. That
requires manhood. Your life as just another spoiled brat should have ended
with adulthood.
Now, abu Ghraib was the product of a very few people, who are just like
you.
Sex, also, son, comes with moral duties. It is not a game which can be
reduced to the sewer by your kind.
I see no need for even one American soldier to die to protect your
"rights"
You are not worth it.
"Ivan Gowch" <gowch@SPAMTHEENOThotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10oka01ha75760fevsn151l3btio7l98sc@4ax.com...
On Tue, 18 May 2004 14:37:24 GMT, <nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
==>Well, Ivan "it has now been revealed" that Secretary Rumsfeld is
responsible
==>personally, is a total figment of your hippie crack pipe.
If anyone is sucking on a crack pipe it
must be you, since there is now no longer any
doubt that yes, Rumsfeld, along with his lackey
Cambone, are directly responsible for the horrors
at Abu Ghraib.
To wit:
"The roots of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal lie not in the criminal
inclinations of a few Army reservists but in a decision, approved last
year by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, to expand a highly
secret operation, which had been focussed on the hunt for Al Qaeda, to
the interrogation of prisoners in Iraq. Rumsfeld's decision embittered
the American intelligence community, damaged the effectiveness of
élite combat units, and hurt America's prospects in the war on
terror."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
"According to interviews with several past and present American
intelligence officials, the Pentagon's operation, known inside the
intelligence community by several code words, including Copper Green,
encouraged physical coercion and sexual humiliation of Iraqi prisoners
in an effort to generate more intelligence about the growing
insurgency in Iraq."
-Seymour Hersh, writing in The New Yorker
Bwahahaha! You are trumped again, moron.
==>As to "morality, fairness, and civil rights" we have seen your God of
==>morality in the sick willie clinton, to whom the incident of sexual
abuse
==>would have seemed quite ordinary and acceptable, without doubt.
No one has ever accused Bill Clinton of being
a paragon of morality. But then, no one with
any credibility has ever accused Bill Clinton of
sexual abuse, either. He liked to get his *****
sucked. Billions of men like to get their cocks
sucked. And Monica Lewinsky was not only an
enthusiastic *****, she initiated the
cocksucking.
It's not surprising, however, that you and your
fellow right-wing morons regard any sign
of sexuality as deviance, because you are all impotent
as wet spaghetti and insanely jealous of anyone
capable of a hard-on. (The same appears to be true
of many U.S. military types in Iraq, who apparently
get off on watching naked men masturbate.)
One thing is certain: America's reputation, and the
safety of its citizens, would be in far better shape
today if Clinton, and not the unelected Texas retard,
were president. And, some 700+ U.S. soldiers
would still be alive and with their families.
==>As to "civil rights" which in your sick minds exist without any
"civil
==>duties"
==>sonny, are not yours for free. You have to earn them.
And that is where you are so disastrously,
ridiculously wrong.
Rights are rights. Period. They do not have to
be earned. They do not come contingent on
performing any duties. The Constitution of the
United States does not say its citizens may enjoy
freedom of speech, or assembly, or any of the
other rights it guarantees, ONLY IF they do this
or that.
But there is no reason to be surprised that you
fail to understand even this basic tenet of
American society -- something even elementary
school kids learn.
Remember the Declaration of Independence?
(What am I thinking? Of course you don't. You're
an idiot.)
The preamble says:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men
are created equal; that they are endowed by their
Creator with inherent and inalienable rights. . ."
"Endowed with" . . . "inalienable rights. . ."
Get it now, *****-for-brains? The Declaration does not
say these rights come at the price of "duties."
Man, what a joke you are. And what an UN-American,
freedom-hating dumbass of a joke.
You have made your utter contempt for morality,
fairness and civil rights all too plain, and your
ignorance of the governing principles of the nation
you claim to love, laughably obvious.
[snip]
==>Your entire concept of our country can be reduced to a very simple
==>question, which you leftists voice in many forms every day; "What
new
==>freebies can I get"?
Bwahahaha! If that's so, we must have adopted that
attitude from Enron's Ken Lay, Tyco's Henry Kozlowski,
your UNelected president of vice, ***** Cheney, and
the scores of other Republican corporate bandits who
have been stealing the American people blind for
years.
Whatever you want to say about leftists, when it comes
to demanding something for nothing, we can't hold a
candle to your Republican heroes.
Thanks for the chuckle, and the opportunity to point
out, once again, that you are a liar, an idiot and a
practicing fascist.
--
I do not know where all this fantasy nonsense, these suicidal concepts
of
morality and "fairness" of "civil rights" come from in the American
public
today.
-nshinede, April 23, 2004
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